The Exodus Cry Podcast

By Exodus Cry

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The Exodus Cry Podcast is a resource for anyone who wants to learn more about sex trafficking and how they can fight it. Join the Exodus Cry team as they discuss the most current updates on all aspects of the commercial sex industry, including sex trafficking, prostitution, pornography, and stripping. They'll dive into controversial and often hotly debated topics surrounding global sex industry policy, ideology, gender and sexuality, and even the spiritual aspects of injustice. In addition to hearing from the staff at Exodus Cry, you’ll hear from leading voices who specialize in the areas of abolition, prevention, restoration, and intervention—including survivors and game changers in the movement to end sexual exploitation.

Episode Date
Ep. 57: Interview with Shay Douglas From Liberated: The New Sexual Revolution
1:37:55
Shay Douglas was featured in Liberated: The New Sexual Revolution. Since the making of Liberated Shay has been on a personal journey of transformation.
Jun 05, 2018
Ep. 56: Update on the Initiative to END Legal Brothels in Nevada
28:31
There is an unprecedented move to abolish the last bastion of legal prostitution in the United States. In this episode Melissa Holland, Founder and Executive Director of Awaken, explains what is currently happening.
May 24, 2018
Ep. 55: Interview With Former Sex Buyer Gene McConnell
1:47:43
Gene McConnell is the founder and president of Authentic Relationships International, a non-profit organization dedicated to liberating people from toxic influences and beliefs. For over 31 years, he has trained therapists, pastors, law enforcement, medical professionals, and others about domestic violence, sexual abuse, shame, and building and maintaining healthy relationships.
Apr 27, 2018
Ep. 54: Interview with Dr. Melissa Farley, Founder of Prostitution Research and Education
1:46:55
Dr. Melissa Farley has practiced as a clinical psychologist and researcher for 40 years. She brings that experience to her consultations with agencies, governments, and advocates for prostituted and trafficked women.
Mar 13, 2018
Ep. 53: Interview With SJ Murray, EMMY-Nominated and Award-Winning Screenwriter and Filmmaker
1:11:06
Sarah Jane (SJ) Murray is an Irish-born academic and EMMY-nominated and award-winning screenwriter and filmmaker and the Executive Producer of the documentary out on Netflix, Liberated: The New Sexual Revolution.
Feb 27, 2018
Ep 52: Interview with Lisa Thompson on the “Sex Work” Myth and Prostitution Legislation
1:55:31
Lisa L. Thompson serves as the Vice President of Research and Education for the National Center on Sexual Exploitation, where she oversees NCOSE’s strategic planning for increased public understanding of sexual exploitation related issues.
Feb 20, 2018
Ep. 51: Interview with Dr. Gail Dines, Renowned Author, Professor, and Founder of Culture Reframed
1:37:10
Dr. Gail Dines is a professor of sociology and women’s studies at Wheelock College in Boston, an internationally acclaimed speaker, author, and a feminist public intellectual.
Feb 13, 2018
Ep. 50: Interview with Don Brewster, Founder of Agape International Missions, Cambodia
1:54:28
In Cambodia, thousands of children are victims of sexual exploitation every year. Through Christ-centered rescue and restoration, Don Brewster is proving that lives and communities can be transformed.
Feb 06, 2018
Ep. 49: Interview with Annie Lobert, Founder of Hookers for Jesus
1:54:06
Annie Lobert is a survivor of more than a decade of sex trafficking. She is an internationally recognized expert and advocate to men and women in the commercial sex industry from her personal experience.
Jan 30, 2018
Ep. 48: Interview with Dr. Robert Jensen
1:53:02
Robert Jensen is a professor in the School of Journalism at the University of Texas, a founding board member of the Third Coast Activist Resource Center, and a member of the board of Culture Reframed.
Jan 23, 2018
Ep. 47: Interview With Tony Porter
1:56:22
Tony Porter is an author, educator and activist working to advance social justice issues and is featured in the documentary Liberated: The New Sexual Revolution.
Jan 20, 2018
Ep. 46: Interview With Dr. Harvey Schwartz
1:36:13
Psychologist and author Harvey Schwartz unpacks the dynamics of institutional power and how it can contribute to exploitation. Dr. Schwartz is practicing psychologist and author of Dialogues With Forgotten Voices: Relational Perspectives On Child Abuse Trauma And The Treatment Of Severe Dissociative Disorders.
Jan 09, 2018
Ep. 45: Masculine Identity
32:15
This episode explores how modern pop culture heavily influenced by media figures has socialized boys into a toxic form of masculinity. This problematic “narcissistic male modeling” is part of the larger “porn culture” we find ourselves living in today.
Jan 02, 2018
Ep. 44: Porn Culture Says Sex is Meaningless
23:22
Sex has become something our culture worships, at the same time we have lost all value and reverence for the act itself. Benjamin and Laila talk about how meaningless sex is a foundational part of our modern “porn culture”.
Dec 26, 2017
Ep. 43: Hugh Hefner Changes Everything
22:57
This episode explains the rise of Hugh Hefner and his harmful impact on the world as we know it. Benjamin and Laila discuss the role that Hefner played in both the commodification of women’s sexuality and in shaping our culture’s toxic masculinity.
Dec 19, 2017
Ep. 42: The Ideological Backdrop of the Sexual Revolution and the Influence of Alfred Kinsey
17:37
The history of prominent ideology leading up to the the sexual revolution is explained, as well as the explosive impact that Alfred Kinsey’s “research” on human sexuality had at the time, and to this day.
Dec 12, 2017
Ep. 41: The Prophetic Backdrop of the Sexual Revolution
22:13
Benjamin unveils the spiritual and prophetic backdrop of the sexual revolution and how it relates to the emergence of a culture of sexual exploitation.
Dec 05, 2017
Ep. 40: How to Strategically Understand Commercial Sexual Exploitation
22:08
In this episode Benjamin builds a clear framework for understanding commercial sexual exploitation using helpful word pictures.
Nov 28, 2017
Ep.39: Interview With John Eldredge on Masculinity, Pornography, and The Human Heart
1:04:40
John Eldredge is the best-selling author of Wild at Heart, The Sacred Romance, The Journey of Desire, Fathered by God, Beautiful Outlaw, Moving Mountains, his newest book All Things New, and many more.
Nov 21, 2017
Ep. 38: Interview with Dr. Caroline Heldman
1:45:01
Dr. Caroline is an Associate Professor of Politics at Occidental College in Los Angeles and the research director for the Geena Davis Institute for Gender in Media.
Nov 14, 2017
Ep. 37: How to Take Action: Reclaim Your Identity Part 4
23:19
We must regain our value for sex. A sexuality that is guided by love and compassion will never lead a person to participate in the commercial sex industry. All that we have heard about sex being a meaningless recreational act is a lie. The truth is that sex is powerful. Sex is meaningful. Sex has indescribable value.
Nov 07, 2017
Ep. 36: How to Take Action: Reclaim Your Identity Part 3
25:13
Woman are so much more than what pop culture has constructed. Women are three-dimensional beings full of complexity and beauty. Similarly men are not mindless, roving sexual beasts without conscience.
Oct 31, 2017
Ep. 35: How to Take Action: Reclaim Your Identity Part 2
20:39
Jesus’ life was characterized by love and empathy. When He came into the world, He didn’t just show us how to be, He showed us who we were made to be. In Jesus, we find the highest essence of our nature.
Oct 24, 2017
Ep. 34: #MeToo #ItWasMe
1:41:57
In light of the recent Harvey Weinstein scandal Benjamin and Laila discuss the emergence of two powerful trending hashtags, #MeToo and #ItWasMe
Oct 21, 2017
Ep. 33: Hugh Hefner: The Father of Porn Culture
58:03
Benjamin and Laila react to and reflect on the recent death of Hugh Hefner. They speak into the questions: What was his “legacy”? How did he affect our world? What does his death mean for us now?
Oct 17, 2017
Ep. 32: Reaction to Harvey Weinstein Sexual Abuse Allegations
48:02
Hollywood media mogul Harvey Weinstein has been exposed this week under a slew of sexual assault allegations. Benjamin and Laila discuss the developing story–what happened, how it happened, and what we should expect moving forward.
Oct 16, 2017
Ep. 31: How to Take Action: Reclaim Your Identity Part 1
31:21
Taking action to combat the commercial sex industry starts on an individual heart level with several important internal responses. One of those responses is to reclaim your identity as a compassionate and loving person made in the image of God.
Oct 10, 2017
Ep. 30: Counting the Cost
1:49:22
After an extremely powerful interview with former sex buyer Gene McConnel for episode 27, Benjamin and Laila felt the need to sit down and process some of what they heard.
Oct 03, 2017
Ep. 29: How to Take Action: Be Compassionate Part 2
24:05
What is compassion? Why is it important? How can we overcome hurdles that hinder our compassion? In this episode the internal response to exploitation of being a compassionate person is discussed by Benjamin and Laila.
Sep 26, 2017
Ep. 28: How to Take Action: Be Compassionate Part 1
27:58
Ending the injustice of commercial sexual exploitation requires a response. In this episode Benjamin and Laila talk about the internal responses of love and compassion, and how those two things are central to changing the status quo.
Sep 19, 2017
Ep. 27: Interview With Former Sex Buyer Gene McConnell
1:47:43
Gene McConnell is the founder and president of Authentic Relationships International, a non-profit organization dedicated to liberating people from toxic influences and beliefs. For over 31 years, he has trained therapists, pastors, law enforcement, medical professionals, and others about domestic violence, sexual abuse, shame, and building and maintaining healthy relationships.
Sep 12, 2017
Ep. 26: How to Take Action – Choose Love
1:18:41
When fighting exploitation there are a variety of actions one can take. There are external responses and internal ones. Internal responses deal with one’s own heart posture and behaviors. In this episode Benjamin and Laila unpack the internal action of “choosing love” and what that means in the context of fighting back against commercial sexual exploitation.
Aug 15, 2017
Ep. 25: The Top Ten Myths About Prostitution
1:18:41
Benji and Laila go over the top ten most common myths regarding the true nature of prostitution and how to rebut them.
Aug 01, 2017
Ep. 24: Understanding HR 466 “Sex Trafficking Demand Reduction Act”
25:15
Laila explains the importance of HR 466, a bill aimed at curbing international demand for commercial sex. She gives an update on the status of the legislation, as well as explains how and why it came to be.
Jun 13, 2017
Ep. 23: Interview with Kajsa Ekis Ekman
1:51:12
Kajsa Ekis Ekman is a Swedish journalist, author, and expert on the issue of prostitution and trafficking. She is the author of “Being and Being Bought: Prostitution, Surrogacy and the Split Self,”. She lectures across the world on sex trafficking and prostitution.
May 09, 2017
Ep. 22: Interview With Rachel Moran
1:32:15
Rachel Moran is a survivor and leader in the abolition movement. She is the author of the book Paid For: My Journey Through Prostitution and is also the founder of the organization SPACE International (Survivors of Prostitution-Abuse Calling for Enlightenment). Rachel has a bachelor’s degree in journalism and a master’s degree in creative writing and...
May 02, 2017
Ep. 21: Understanding the Predominant Attitudes of Sex Buyers
32:36
Benjamin Nolot and Laila Mickelwait discuss the violence, misogyny, and rage of sex buyers within the context of prostitution.   Resources discussed in this episode: “Comparing Sex Buyers with Men Who Do Not Buy Sex: New Data on Prostitution and Trafficking” Journal of Interpersonal Violence, Aug. 31, 2015 “Men who buy sex: in their own...
Apr 25, 2017
Ep. 20: Who are “the Johns” and What do They Want? Part 2
23:40
Benjamin and Laila continue to discuss who the sex buyers are and what they desire out of the prostitution encounter. They also address why these men buy sex as well as the role of pornography in developing the desires and expectations of sex buyers.   Resources discussed in this episode: The Johns book by Victor...
Apr 18, 2017
Ep. 19: Who are “the Johns” and What do They Want? Part 1
25:26
Who are “the Johns” and what do they want? Why do they buy sex? How do they interact with each other and the women they buy, and how does that affect prostituted women?   Resources discussed in this episode: The Johns book by Victor Malarek
Apr 11, 2017
Ep. 18: The Role of Sex Buyers
22:35
Benjamin Nolot and Laila Mickelwait discuss the often obscured role that sex buyers play in the prostitution equation. The choice of men to buy sex is a choice not often talked about in the prostitution debate, but it is fundamental to understanding and addressing the industry. If all men stopped purchasing sex, the sex industry...
Apr 04, 2017
Ep. 17: Prostitution as Commodification of the Human Body Part 2
24:43
In this podcast episode Benjamin Nolot and Laila Mickelwait continue to speak about the commodification inherent within the system of prostitution. They also address the verbal abuse experienced by women in prostitution and the result of near constant verbal assaults.   Resources discussed in this episode: exoduscry.com nefariousdocumentary.com
Mar 28, 2017
Ep. 16: Prostitution as Commodification of the Human Body Part 1
21:53
Benjamin Nolot and Laila Mickelwait talk about how prostitution is the commodification of the human body. They also discuss the way that commodification is fundamental to the way that the prostitution industry operates.   Resources discussed in this episode: exoduscry.com nefariousdocumentary.com
Mar 22, 2017
Ep. 15: Interview with Rebecca Bender
1:03:20
Benjamin and Laila were honored to interview Rebecca Bender in this week’s podcast episode. Rebecca is a nationally recognized and awarded expert on domestic sex trafficking. After escaping nearly six years of both labor and sex trafficking, she emerged as a Survivor Leader, providing consulting, training and speaking with some of the largest anti-trafficking groups...
Mar 16, 2017
Ep. 14: Interview with Dr. Melissa Farley
1:46:55
Benjamin and Laila are privileged to interview Dr. Melissa Farley in this podcast episode. Dr. Farley has practiced as a clinical psychologist for 40 years. She brings that experience to her consultations with agencies, governments, and advocates for prostituted and trafficked women. She has articulated the harms of prostitution, pornography, and trafficking as an expert...
Mar 07, 2017
Ep. 13: Is Prostitution A Choice? Part 3
23:34
The conversation surrounding the issue of choice in prostitution continues. Benjamin Nolot and Laila Mickelwait go even deeper to dispute some of society’s most commonly believed “exceptions” to the rule, that allow the alleviation of moral conflict. They also discuss the way in which our modern pornographic culture is also a coercive force pulling women...
Feb 28, 2017
Episode 12: Is Prostitution A Choice? Part 2
24:51
Benjamin Nolot and Laila Mickelwait continue to discuss the issue of choice within the context of the prostitution industry. This time they focus the conversation on the way that people are pushed into prostitution by a coercive landscape caused by a variety of vulnerabilities.   Resources discussed in this episode: Paid For: My Journey Through...
Feb 21, 2017
Episode 11: Is Prostitution A Choice? Part 1
24:05
Is prostitution a choice? That is the question that Benjamin Nolot and Laila Mickelwait unpack and seek to answer in the first of a three part podcast series on the topic. Specifically in this episode they focus on the seller/pimp/trafficker side of the “choice” equation.   Resources discussed in this episode: Paid For: My Journey...
Feb 14, 2017
Ep. 10: Understanding Prostitution as a Form of Sexual Abuse Part 2
26:11
The reality of the harmful experience of prostitution as told by survivors is further discussed by Benjamin Nolot and Laila Mickelwait. They highlight the abuse, trauma and resulting dissociation that go part and parcel with the sex trade and the way that it is the humanity of a person that is being bought in prostitution,...
Feb 07, 2017
Ep. 09: Understanding Prostitution as a Form of Sexual Abuse
24:08
Continuing the discussion from Episode 8, Benjamin Nolot and Laila Mickelwait go deeper into explaining how prostitution is experienced as sexual abuse. In doing so, they discuss the way in which dissociation is necessary for the person being prostituted and the implications that holds for understanding the nature of prostitution. Show Notes For more information...
Jan 31, 2017
Ep. 08: Does Legalizing Prostitution Make it Safer?
23:15
Benjamin Nolot and Laila Mickelwait discuss the false notion that legalization or decriminalization of prostitution mitigates the harm present within the sex industry. They also talk about the reality of “the prostitution experience” as told by countless survivors of the sex trade. Show Notes “The world as we have created it is a process of...
Jan 24, 2017
Ep. 07: The Myth of the “Empowered & Liberated ‘Sex Worker’”
20:29
Benjamin Nolot and Laila Mickelwait talk about the myth promoted by those that support prostitution of the independent, empowered, and liberated “sex worker” and how the reality of prostitution tells a much different story. Show Notes “The world as we have created it is a process of our thinking. It cannot be changed without changing...
Jan 11, 2017
Ep. 06: The Pro “Sex Work” Narrative and the Normalization of Prostitution
20:12
Benjamin Nolot and Laila Mickelwait discuss how the global pro-prostitution movement has used the promotion of the term “sex work” as a way to legitimize and normalize the commercial sex industry. They talk about the way in which the term “sex work” is deeply embedded with meaning, and how it sets an entire framework for...
Jan 05, 2017
Ep. 05: The Roots of Trafficking and Sexual Exploitation: Demand and Commodification
21:37
Benjamin Nolot (CEO/Founder, Exodus Cry) and Laila Mickelwait (Director of Abolition, Exodus Cry) highlight some of the reasons that sex trafficking and commercial sexual exploitation (CSE) exist in our world today. They hit on the phenomenon of supply and demand, and the role that men play in perpetuating CSE by creating the demand for commercial...
Dec 29, 2016
Ep. 04: Victor Hugo: A Prophet for Our Time
20:29
Benjamin Nolot (CEO/Founder, Exodus Cry) and Laila Mickelwait (Director of Abolition, Exodus Cry) discuss the way that William Wilberforce changed the popular narrative about slavery and how Victor Hugo identified an unfinished work regarding prostitution. They also talk about the connections between sex trafficking and the prostitution industry. Show Notes “We say that slavery has...
Dec 13, 2016
Ep. 03: Lessons From History
20:48
Benjamin Nolot (CEO/Founder, Exodus Cry) and Laila Mickelwait (Director of Abolition, Exodus Cry) continue to discuss William Wilberforce’s strategy to end historical slavery and how it applies to the modern abolition movement.   Resources discussed in this episode: Amazing Grace book by Eric Metaxas Proslavery, A History of the Defense of Slavery in America, 1701-1840...
Dec 06, 2016
Ep. 02: The Strategy of Abolition
20:23
Benjamin Nolot (Founder/CEO, Exodus Cry) and Laila Mickelwait (Director of Abolition, Exodus Cry) go in depth discussing the abolition strategy of William Wilberforce. They unpack the concept of the winning story or “cover narrative” in influencing history. Show Notes Benjamin speaks about his journey of producing the documentary Nefarious: Merchant of Souls and how it...
Nov 02, 2016
Ep. 01: The Journey Begins
20:37
  Benjamin Nolot (Founder/CEO, Exodus Cry) and Laila Mickelwait (Director of Abolition, Exodus Cry) introduce the podcast and explain the importance of in-depth and ongoing discussion surrounding the issue of sex trafficking and commercial sexual exploitation. They discuss some of Benjamin’s journey in the field of anti-trafficking work and touch on the example of how...
Nov 02, 2016