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The Business Side of Music podcast features interviews with leading industry professionals and working musicians, offering real-world advice to help artists grow their careers and incomes. Founded by Tom Sabella and Traci Snowe in 2008, the show has a rich legacy of empowering musicians. For many years, the podcast was hosted by Bob Bender, a respected industry veteran known for his work with Ringo Starr, Billy Preston, and Curb Records. Bob's passing in 2023 left a lasting impact, and we continue to honor his legacy. Today, the podcast is hosted by Sarah Fleshner, a music industry professional with over 12 years of experience in artist management, live sound, touring, and business development. As owner of 362 Entertainment, Sarah brings fresh insights while carrying forward the show's mission: pulling back the curtain on the business side of music and helping artists succeed. businesssideofmusic.com

Episode Date
The Next Era of Music Analytics with Rio Caraeff, Co-President, Musixmatch (Former Vevo CEO)
Dec 10, 2025
Breaking Artists in the Algorithm Era with Scott Welch
Nov 11, 2025
Healing the Music: Inside the Work of Music Health Alliance
Oct 14, 2025
The Business Behind NAMM with John Mlynczak
Sep 09, 2025
So You Wanna Be In Show Biz? with Nikki Sanz
Aug 26, 2025
The Business of Booking with Hamilton Byrd
Jul 22, 2025
Country Music, Family Ties & Filing Taxes with Pam Tillis
Jul 01, 2025
Cheers to 100 Years
May 20, 2025
#338 - The Business Side of Music Series Finale: Saying Goodbye to a Friend
Dec 11, 2024
#337 - Bob Talks to Jennifer Roe
Dec 10, 2024
#336 - Bob Talks to Jeff Delia
Dec 10, 2024
#335 - Bob Talks to Nick Allegro
Dec 09, 2024
#334 - Bob Talks to Donovan White
Dec 09, 2024
#333 - Wisdom We've Earned From Lessons We've Learned
Sep 17, 2024
#332 - Becoming An Influencer
Sep 03, 2024
#331 - Perception Versus Perspective
Aug 27, 2024
#330 - It's Still The Wild, Wild West
Aug 22, 2024
#329 - Build, Maintain, and Grow
Aug 13, 2024
#328 - Tonechaser - The Eddie Van Halen Story
Aug 06, 2024
#327 - The Journey Home Project
Jul 30, 2024
#326 - Is The Big Show A Thing of the Past?
Jul 23, 2024
#325 - Artificial Intelligence
Jul 16, 2024
#324 - Are You Trying to Boil The Ocean?
Jul 09, 2024
#323 - Is Your Artistry Protected?
Jul 02, 2024
#322 - The Efficient Hustle
Jun 25, 2024
#321 - Is Your Music Resonating
Jun 18, 2024
#320 - To Sell or Not To Sell Your Catalog
Jun 11, 2024
#319 - The Songwriters Guide Book
Jun 04, 2024
#318 - The Famous Black Box
May 30, 2024
#317 - The Demise of the Music Store
May 22, 2024
#316 - Wipe Your Feet at the Door Before You Enter the Theater
May 15, 2024
#315 - Songs From A Camper Van
May 07, 2024
#314 - You've Got To Swim Out To Meet Your Ship
Apr 29, 2024
#313 - The Anatomy of The Song
Apr 23, 2024
#312 - Touring Career Workshop
Apr 16, 2024
#311 - The Japanese Tea Ceremony
Apr 09, 2024
#310 - Making It Big One Gig At A Time
Apr 04, 2024
#309 - The Roadie Cartel
Mar 26, 2024
#308 - Where in The Song is The Moment?
Mar 12, 2024
#307 - An Alligator Walking Thru The Everglades
Mar 05, 2024
#306 - It's Pop Culture at the End of the Day
Feb 27, 2024
#305 - Night Train To Nashville
Feb 20, 2024
#304 - The Disruptors
Feb 13, 2024
#303 - You Have One Chance To Make a Bad First Impression
Feb 06, 2024
#302 - Getting Feedback and Results From Your Fans
Jan 30, 2024
#301 - Overcoming The Monster
Jan 23, 2024
#300 - Our 300th Episode!
Jan 16, 2024
#299 - Becoming a Better Player
Jan 09, 2024
#298 - Nashville Music Awards
Jan 02, 2024
#297 - Getting The Right Mix as as Important as the Recording
Dec 26, 2023
#296 - Is The Vinyl Record Business Returning?
Dec 13, 2023
#295 - One Stop Shop for Artist Development
Dec 08, 2023
#294 - Receiving Peer Support for Your Music
Nov 28, 2023
#293 - The Ambassador of Country Music
Nov 21, 2023
#292 - The Paralysis of Decision Making
Nov 14, 2023
#291 - Finding That Perfect Road Gig
Nov 07, 2023
#290 - It's The Music Biz!
Oct 31, 2023
#289 - Do You Know What Your Brand Is?
Oct 24, 2023
#288 - From Reality TV to the Concert Stage
Oct 17, 2023
#287 - What's The Romance With Radio?
Oct 10, 2023
#286 - The Gatekeeper Has Left The Building
Oct 03, 2023
#285 - Questions and Answers
Sep 26, 2023
#284 - How A.I. Can Help Promote Your Music
Sep 19, 2023
#283 - Getting Influencers to Pay For Your Music
Sep 12, 2023
#282 - It's More Than Just Background Music
Sep 05, 2023
#281 - The Fame Will Come and Go But You Can Always Write
Aug 29, 2023
#280 - Develop Something Unique
Aug 22, 2023
#279 - Democratizing the Artist Development Process
Aug 16, 2023
#278 - Wipeout
Aug 09, 2023
#277 - Being a Self Sustaining Creative Person
Aug 01, 2023
#276 - Welcome To The Wild West of the Music Industry
Jul 25, 2023
#275 - The Hanger... Music Row 2.1
Jul 18, 2023
#274 - European Radio... A Whole Different Ballgame
Jul 11, 2023
#273 - Is This The New Future of Radio?
Jun 27, 2023
#272 - 1 Percent Better a Day is a 1000 Percent Better Next Year
Jun 21, 2023
#271 - We Have To Not Be Afraid of Change
Jun 13, 2023
#270 - The Future of the Annual NAMM Show
Jun 06, 2023
#269 Good Vibes Presents Music Festivals
May 30, 2023
#268 - What's On The Outside Does Not Match The Inside
May 23, 2023
#267 - Licensing Solutions for the DIY Content Creator
May 16, 2023
#266 - It's Another Day At The Office
May 09, 2023
#265 - There's No One Size Fits All Formula
May 02, 2023
#264 - The Ultimate Music Theory Experience
Apr 25, 2023
#263 - Touring Logistics 101
Apr 18, 2023
#262 - Super Serve Your Fans
Apr 11, 2023
#261 - Nobody Sees The Tracks Being Laid
Apr 04, 2023
#260 - Don't Believe In Luck - Believe In Opportunity
Mar 28, 2023
#259 - Music Gives The World A Bit of Color
Mar 21, 2023
#258 - A Tribute to The Red Headed Stranger
Mar 14, 2023
#257 - Prepare Like a Psychopath
Mar 07, 2023
#256 - The Journey of a Musical Gypsy
Feb 28, 2023
#255 - How To Build A Sustainable Career
Feb 21, 2023
#254 - Making Music Touches The Soul
Feb 14, 2023
#253 - Vincent Plays His Part
Feb 07, 2023
#252 - Creating an Artist Experience
Jan 31, 2023
#251 - A Good Song Is Not Going To Make It
Jan 24, 2023
#250 - It's Our 250th Episode!
Jan 17, 2023
#249 - An Old Dog Learning New Tricks
Jan 10, 2023
#248 - Women In Music
Jan 03, 2023
#247 - It's All In The Red Carpet
Dec 27, 2022
#246 - From Classical To Dramatic Pop
Dec 20, 2022
#245 - Those Christmas Memories
Dec 13, 2022
#244 - The Road Dog Project
Dec 06, 2022
#243 - Thailand's Thriving Music Scene
Nov 29, 2022
#242 - The Singer's Singer
Nov 22, 2022
#241 - Navigating and Negotiating Your Music Globally
Nov 15, 2022
#240 - Where Music, Money, and Life Meet
Nov 08, 2022
#239 - Vail Johnson's Fun With Fusion
Nov 03, 2022
#238 - The 2023 Ultimate Music Business Summit
Oct 25, 2022
#237 - The Life and Times of a Tour Manager
Oct 18, 2022
#236 - Is Now the Time To Sell My Song Catalog?
Oct 11, 2022
#235 - The Story of a True Southern Storyteller
Oct 05, 2022
#234 - The Global Economy Made Easy for Today's Artist
Sep 28, 2022
#233 - Did The Bean Counters Kill The (Classic) Rock Business?
Sep 20, 2022
#232 - Press On - The Story of Selah
Sep 13, 2022
#231 - An Aussie Rocker In Nashville Country
Sep 06, 2022
#230 - Anything Worth Doing is Worth Over Doing
Aug 30, 2022
#229 - There's No Participation Trophies In The Music Business
Aug 23, 2022
#228 - From Junk Food Junkie to Mountain Stage
Aug 16, 2022
#227 - The Old Way Isn't Always The Best Way
Aug 09, 2022
#226 - Are You Chasing The Dollar or Should The Dollar Be Chasing You
Aug 02, 2022
#225 - The (Real) Wedding Singer
Jul 26, 2022
#224 - Have Two Plan A's In Your Career
Jul 19, 2022
#223 - Ending Artist Poverty
Jul 12, 2022
#222 - Gold Coast Country
Jul 05, 2022
#221 - Knowledge Is Meant To Be Shared
Jun 28, 2022
#220 - You Just Don't Know If You Don't Ask
Jun 21, 2022
#219 - What's The Goal, Who's The Audience, What's The Platform
Jun 14, 2022
#218 - It's A Tough Business and No Place For Sissies
Jun 07, 2022
#217 - NFT's... Fad or Future?
May 30, 2022
#216 - Growing Up With The Beatles
May 24, 2022
#215 - Sometimes Yes Means No, and No Means Yes
May 17, 2022
#214 - From Jingle Singer To The Voice... Becoming The Entrepeneur
May 10, 2022
#213 - The Power of TV and Creating Celebrity Brands
May 03, 2022
#212 - Finding Your Revenue Stream
Apr 26, 2022
#211 - Breaking Artists Who Don't Fit Pre-Existing Formats
Apr 19, 2022
#210 - Reducing The Risk of the Music Biz
Apr 13, 2022
#209 - 34,000 Shows Later
Apr 05, 2022
#208 - The 2022 NAMM Show - More To Start Playing Fewer To Quit Playing
Mar 29, 2022
#207 - The Meteoric Rise of Catalog Sales
Mar 22, 2022
#206 - Managing Yourself Before You Have a Manager
Mar 15, 2022
#205 - The Furniture In The Song
Mar 08, 2022
#204 - Making Sense of Entertainment Law
Mar 01, 2022
#203 - Creating An Artist First Financial Ecosystem
Feb 22, 2022
#202 - Performance Does Matter
Feb 15, 2022
#201 - The Music Stand That Can Withstand The Test
Feb 08, 2022
#200 - Turning Life's Lessons Into Songs of Passion
Feb 01, 2022
#199 - Tapping Into Your Creative and Musical Self
Jan 25, 2022
#198 - From Broadway, to Broadway, and Television Too
Jan 18, 2022
#197 - From Bluegrass to the Doobie Brothers - The Journey of John Cowan
Jan 11, 2022
#196 - Look Good, Sound Good, Be Good - "Hooks: Lessons on Performance, Business, and Life from a Working Musician"
Jan 04, 2022
#195 - Leading The Way with Korg Musical Instruments
Dec 28, 2021
#194 - Having the Right Blueprint For Your Music Career
Dec 21, 2021
#193 - Learning The In's and Out's of Radio Programming... and More!
Dec 14, 2021
#192 - The Christmas Show
Dec 09, 2021
#191 - Getting Fans to (Financially) Invest In Your Dream
Nov 30, 2021
#190 - Metal Music Meets Modern Technology
Nov 22, 2021
#189 - Taking Your Fans From Suspect To Super Fan
Nov 16, 2021
#188 - Are You Ready For A Manager
Nov 09, 2021
#187 - A Platform That Provides the Data You Need To Succeed
Nov 02, 2021
#186 - Your Net Worth is Related to Your Network
Oct 26, 2021
#185 - Being an Innovative Entrepreneur, Funding Your Project, and Building Your Fan Base
Oct 19, 2021
#184 - Musical Instrument Petting Zoo
Oct 13, 2021
#183 - Do Crowdfunding Platforms Actually Work for the Independent Artist?
Oct 05, 2021
#182 - The Music Business is a 10 Part Process
Sep 29, 2021
#181 - Putting Your Music Into a Vault for Safekeeping
Sep 21, 2021
#180 - How Do You Know That You're In The Flow State?
Sep 14, 2021
#179 - It's No Longer The Wild West on YouTube, So Protect Your Content
Sep 06, 2021
#178 - Rarified Air - My Life as a Byrd, and a Flying Burrito Brother
Aug 29, 2021
#177 - Every Visual Needs Music Interview with Chris Bragg
Aug 20, 2021
#176 - Check It and Wreck It - Creating a Solution To Traveling With a Guitar
Aug 11, 2021
#175 - Blending Music and the Gaming Industry
Aug 03, 2021
#174 - Look at Your Recording Stems as a Revenue Stream
Jul 28, 2021
#173 - Don't Advertise Your Career Too Much on Rented Space
Jul 20, 2021
#172 - You Don't Know What You Don't Know
Jul 13, 2021
#171 - Interview with Jeff Coffey-Music Can Be The Great Unifier
Jul 07, 2021
#170 - Two Steps Forward, One Step Back - The Story of Miles Copeland
Jun 30, 2021
#169 - The Magic Years - Scenes From A Rock And Roll Life
Jun 23, 2021
#168 - It's Time To Upgrade to Social Media Version 2.0
Jun 16, 2021
#167 - There's Always More Reasons to Move Forwards Than There Are To Move Backwards
Jun 07, 2021
#166 - A Master of Drumming Insanity and a Genius of the Sticks
May 31, 2021
#165 - Your Brand is Not Just What You Wear, It's Also Your Attitude
May 25, 2021
#164 - As An Independent Artist, You Shouldn't Be Married To One Digital Platform
May 10, 2021
#163 - Finding New Ways To Do Business In A Brand New World
May 04, 2021
#162 - Collaborating With High Profile Music, Turning That Into Narrative Entertainment
Apr 27, 2021
#161 - How to Follow Your Course, and Let Others Do the Talking
Apr 20, 2021
#160 - A Holistic Approach to Music and it's Effects
Apr 14, 2021
#159 - Sing Your Butt Off So You Don't Sing Your Throat Out
Apr 05, 2021
#158 - The Top 5 Things Every Developing Artist Needs To Know
Mar 29, 2021
#157 - A New and Innovative Way of Looking at Providing a Soundtrack for the Internet
Mar 22, 2021
#156 - To Keep That Success Story You Have To Keep On Pushing
Mar 15, 2021
#155 - Perseverance and Persistence - The Making of a Successful Songwriter
Mar 09, 2021
#154 - Understanding Who You Are As a Personal Brand
Mar 01, 2021
#153 - What Would a Record Label Look Like if it Started Today?
Feb 22, 2021
#152 - Get Off The Couch To Get On The Road
Feb 15, 2021
#151 - Don't Spare The Horses When Performing
Feb 08, 2021
#150 - The Key to Having a Hit is That Marriage Between the Right Artist and the Right Song
Feb 01, 2021
#149 - You Don't Need To See Your Audience In Order To Know Your Audience
Jan 25, 2021
#148 - What's Better to Promote Your Song? Tik Tok and Spotify, or Radio?
Jan 18, 2021
#147 - Heidi Newfield and the Barfly Sessions
Jan 11, 2021
#146 - To Be Successful, You Have to Sell Yourself on Yourself
Jan 04, 2021
#145 - I Believe... The Story of Eliot Sloan and Blessid Union of Souls
Dec 29, 2020
#144 - The History of Making Records
Dec 21, 2020
#143 - The Straightforward Guide to the Music Biz
Dec 14, 2020
#142 - John Berry "Christmas Songs and Stories"
Dec 07, 2020
#141 - Michael Omartian "The Renaissance Man of Music"
Nov 30, 2020
#140 - Creating Music For Those Who Tried and Failed
Nov 23, 2020
#139 - Get A Leg Up With Chad Harvey
Nov 16, 2020
#138 - Creating a Community for Fans & Artists to Engage One Another
Nov 09, 2020
#137 - In the Virtual World, You're Worth Watching & Getting Paid For It
Nov 03, 2020
#136 - The Virtual Music Conference May Become the New Norm
Oct 26, 2020
#135 - Creating a Company that Can Survive the Pandemic... and the music industry
Oct 20, 2020
#134 - Amazon Prime Film "Nocturne" - the Music Supervisor's Role
Oct 12, 2020
#133 - Branding Background Music in Stores for Consumers
Oct 05, 2020
#132 - New Music Platform that Provides a Recurring Income to the Artist
Sep 29, 2020
#131 - Kiss You All Over and the 15 Years It Took To Get There
Sep 21, 2020
#130 - The Electronic Music Scene
Sep 14, 2020
#129 - It's A Free Form Conversation with Rick Cua
Aug 31, 2020
#128 - Getting Your Music onto Spotify… and Actually Making a Difference
Aug 24, 2020
#127 - The Anatomy of the Song
Aug 17, 2020
#126 - Preserving Bluegrass for the Next Generation
Aug 10, 2020
#125 - Now Is The Time To Up Your Game in the Music Business
Aug 03, 2020
#124 - Learning From Those With Experience and Knowledge
Jul 23, 2020
#123 - Don't Make Your Live Show the Last Thing On Your List
Jul 16, 2020
#122 - Affordable Health Insurance for the Working Musician
Jul 06, 2020
#121 - The Booking Agents Book of Secrets for Touring Musicians
Jul 01, 2020
#120 - Creating Clarity With Your Fans To Get Across What You Want
Jun 24, 2020
#119 - Use This Downtime To Get Your Music Business Affairs In Order
Jun 15, 2020
#118 - The Steps You Can Take To Be Your Own Manager
May 25, 2020
#117 - Working The Major Tours - Past, Present, & Beyond
May 13, 2020
#116 - Building Brands Thru Sound
Apr 21, 2020
#115 - Is the Force Majeure Clause in the Contract the New Normal?
Apr 14, 2020
#114 - The 7 Why Exercise to a Successful Career
Apr 06, 2020
#113 - Be The Best You, You Can Be
Mar 30, 2020
#112 - The Anatomy of Writing a Song - Is There a Correct Way?
Mar 24, 2020
#111 - Having a Can Do Attitude & Being Performance Ready
Mar 09, 2020
Founder and creator of The Business Side of Music podcast.
Mar 04, 2020
#110 - A Hit Songwriter Shares His Passion For Music
Feb 24, 2020
#109 - Successful Singer, Songwriter, Producer, Television Host, & Entrepreneur
Feb 18, 2020
#108 - Be Willing To Invest In Yourself... And Your Career
Feb 10, 2020
#107 - How a Wedding Song Got 7 Million Views & More Than 40 Million Streams!
Feb 03, 2020
#106 - The Inner Workings of an Artist Manager
Jan 27, 2020
#105 - Finding The Perfect Producer for Today's Independent Artist
Jan 20, 2020
#104 - Songwriting University
Jan 14, 2020
#103 - Getting Your Song Played on Radio - Is it Worth It?
Jan 06, 2020
#102 - Finger Picking Guitarist Creates Acoustic Projects for All Ages
Dec 19, 2019
#101 - From The Voice TV Series To Being On Stage With Queen & Paul McCartney
Nov 26, 2019
#100 - Mastering the Business of Licensing Music to Film & TV
Nov 20, 2019
#99 - Guitarists - The Perpetual Beginner, a Musician's Path to Lifelong Learning
Nov 14, 2019
#98 - Touring The Country in a Road Warrior Van
Oct 21, 2019
#97 - Everything You Ever Wanted To Know About Microphones... and Then Some.
Oct 14, 2019
#96 - The Blending of Funk, Soul, Rock, Beats... and Flipping
Oct 07, 2019
#95 - The Perfect Analog Sounding Speaker For The Digital World
Sep 16, 2019
#94 - Empowering The Artist Thru the Use of Publicity and Social Media
Sep 09, 2019
#93 - A Musical Family Legacy
Sep 03, 2019
#92 - Getting Your Music Directly in front of the Fans & Eliminating the Middleman
Aug 26, 2019
#91 - Recording in the Studio... What it Takes to Get the Songs Recorded Correctly
Aug 19, 2019
#90 - Finding Open Mic Nights All Over The World
Aug 12, 2019
#89 - Reaching Your Goals... One Gig at a Time
Aug 05, 2019
#88 - The Future of Microphone & Headphone Technology is Here Today
Jul 29, 2019
#87 - Nashville Series TV Star Talks About Her Journey To Stage & Screen
Jul 22, 2019
#86 - Country Music Fantasy Camp
Jul 15, 2019
#85 - Helping Our Music Evolve (HOME)
Jul 08, 2019
#84 - An Online Workshop for Getting Your Music Into Film & Television
Jun 26, 2019
#83 - Recording & Releasing Music in an Entirely Different Perspective
Jun 17, 2019
#82 - A Workshop & A Phone App To Help You Make The Right Moves In The Music Business
Jun 10, 2019
#81 - Mixing Americana, Bluegrass, & Gospel Music From the Pen of Rick Lang
Jun 03, 2019
#80 - A Musical Dream That Became A National PBS Television Special
May 27, 2019
#79 - Getting Your Road Weary Body Back Into Performance Shape
May 20, 2019
#78 - From Buddy Holly & Lefty, to Merle Haggard and Hit Songs
May 14, 2019
#77 - A Recording Artist Stays True to Herself
May 06, 2019
#76 - How Opportunity Happens - Dinner With Dreamers
Apr 29, 2019
#75 - Rock Legends Still Going Strong 38 Years Later
Apr 23, 2019
#74 - Artist Development - What The Record Label No Longer Provides
Apr 15, 2019
#73 - A New Business Model For A Boutique Record Label
Apr 09, 2019
#72 - Unlocking Creativity... Or Why You Need A Producer In The Studio
Apr 02, 2019
#71 - How One Artist Found a Sponsor & Created a Brand in the Process
Mar 25, 2019
#70 - The Hit Songwriter... Yesterday... Today... and Tomorrow.
Mar 19, 2019
#69 - Drummer Turned Successful Music Industry Entrepreneur
Mar 13, 2019
#68 - Two Guitar and Producer Virtuoso's in the Studio
Mar 04, 2019
#67 - On The Roof, Witnessing The Beatles Final Concert
Feb 25, 2019
#66 - Artist Boot Camp for the Aspiring Artist
Feb 18, 2019
#65 - Writing Songs Is All About The Story Telling
Feb 11, 2019
#64 - Creating The Buzz About Your Song and Your Career
Feb 05, 2019
#63 - Finally, a Nationwide Classified Ads Paper Designed for Musicians!
Jan 30, 2019
#62 - How One Songwriter Stuck To His Goals and Exceeded Them
Jan 21, 2019
#61 - Sitting Up Straight Can Actually Help You Perform Better!
Jan 14, 2019
#60 - Independent Artist To Record Label Executive
Jan 07, 2019
#59 - Software Program That Helps the Creative Brain Work With the Analytical Side of the Brain
Dec 12, 2018
#58 - The Many Roles of the Artist Manager
Dec 04, 2018
#57 - The Two Copyrights Required For Your Songs
Nov 20, 2018
#56 - Your Voice is Like Atomic Power... and Connected to Your Big Toe
Nov 13, 2018
#55 - Why Every Artist and Songwriter Needs an Entertainment Lawyer
Nov 05, 2018
#54 - You Don't Need A Booking Agent, You Just Need To Be Fearless!
Oct 29, 2018
#53 - Recording With Professionally Qualified Producers From Your Home
Oct 22, 2018
#52 - Where Do You Go to Get Your Music Career Started?
Oct 16, 2018
#51 - Traditional Country Music is Alive and Well in Tennessee
Oct 08, 2018
#50 - From Elvis' Piano Player to the Producer of Over 100 #1 Country Songs
Oct 01, 2018
#49 - How To Perform Your Original Songs the Correct Way on Stage
Sep 24, 2018
#48 - My Child Wants To Be In The Music Business (Part 2)
Sep 17, 2018