Words Matter

By Katie Barlow

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American politics is undergoing seismic changes that will alter the course of history. At Words Matter, we believe that facts, evidence, truth and objective reality are necessary and vital in public discourse. Our hosts and guests have broad experience in government, politics and journalism -- this gives them a unique ability to explain recent events and place them in historic context. Together, with fellow journalists, elected officials, policy-makers and thought-leaders, they will analyze the week's news and get at the real truth behind all the distracting headlines. New episodes released Mondays. Produced and recorded out of The Hangar Studios, NYC.

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Votes Matter: Counting to Nine on Abortion Rights
36:08

The Supreme Court is poised to overturn Roe v. Wade — or at least change the abortion-rights landscape dramatically. Katie sits down with Sarah Isgur and David French of The Dispatch to answer the question: Why is this happening?

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Dec 09, 2021
American's Mission Statement read by Senator John F. Kennedy
12:49

On July 4th we celebrate the birth of the American Experiment. The Declaration of Independence -- written in the Spring of 1776 by a 33 year old Thomas Jefferson -- is America’s mission statement. And like all mission statements, the words represented not what we were, but what we aspired to be. In fact, the author himself was a gifted writer, but a deeply flawed person who – like his country -- did not embody the ideas and ideal of that document.

For more than two hundred and forty years, the story of America has been the struggle between those who want to move us close to the words of our mission statement – and those who want to stop them.

It is often forgotten that the Declaration itself was meant to be spoken. 

In 2004 the John F. Kennedy Presidential Library released a previously unknown 1957 recording of then-Senator Kennedy reading the Declaration of Independence in New York on July 4th.

So this week to honor Independence Day -- And to remind ourselves that as a country must continue the struggle to turn America’s founding words into reality – we give John F. Kennedy’s reading of the Declaration of Independence the final word.

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Jul 05, 2021
Barack Obama's Eulogy for the Honorable Reverend Clementa Pinckney
41:41

On June 26th 2015 President Barack Obama delivered the eulogy at the funeral of the Reverend Clementa C. Pinckney, the senior pastor of the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston and a South Carolina State Senator.

Reverend Pinckney and 8 other Black church members had been murdered a week earlier during Bible Study in a racially motivated mass shooting perpetrated by a white supremacist. 

The Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church is one of the oldest Black churches in the United States, and it has long been a center for organizing events related to civil rights

Founded in 1816, the church played an important role in the history of South Carolina, during slavery and Reconstruction, during the civil rights movement of the 1950s and 60s and in the Black Lives Matter movement. 

It is the oldest African Methodist Episcopal Church in the South, often referred to as "Mother Emanuel". 

Rev. Pinckney, was a well known activist who had held rallies after the shooting of Walter Scott by a white police officer two months earlier, in nearby North Charleston. As a state senator, Reverend Pinckney had pushed for legislation requiring police to wear body cameras.

The Reverend and his church were targeted because of their history and role in civil rights activism. 

With a rousing eulogy and a chorus of “Amazing Grace,” President Barack Obama called on the country to honor the nine victims of the South Carolina church massacre by working toward racial healing.

He said that included removing the Confederate battle flag from the South Carolina State House grounds.

“It’s true, the flag did not cause these murders,” The President said, but “we all have to acknowledge the flag has always represented more than just ancestral pride. For many, black and white, that flag was a reminder of systemic oppression and racial subjugation. We see that now.”

“By taking down that flag,” he said, “we express God’s grace.” But I don't think God wants us to stop there.“

On July 6, 2015, the South Carolina Senate voted to remove the Confederate flag from display outside the South Carolina State House. 

Make no mistake - the protests we have seen in the last month are a continuation of that struggle. And none of us can stop - none of us should rest until we dismantle and remove every symbol and every fact of the systemic oppression and racial subjugation that President Obama described in his eulogy of Reverend Pinckney. 

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Jun 21, 2021
American History Tellers -- Lindsay Graham Interview
36:56

Not THAT Lindsay Graham. This week we profile one of our favorite podcasts American History TellersThe Cold WarProhibition, the Gold Rush, the Space Race. Every part of your life -the words you speak, the ideas you share- can be traced to our history, but how well do you really know the stories that made America? American History Tellers will take you to the events, the times and the people that shaped our nation. And they'll show you how our history affected them, their families and affects you today. Hosted by Lindsay Graham (not the Senator). From Wondery, the network behind Tides Of HistoryHistory UnpluggedFall Of Rome and Dirty John.

And check out Lindsay's latest podcast -- American Elections: Wicked Game

Subscribe on Apple PodcastsSpotify or wherever you got your podcastsAmerican Elections: Wicked Game http://wondery.fm/AmericanElectionsWM

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Jun 14, 2021
President John F. Kennedy on Civil Rights
18:14

This week we highlight presidential leadership and one of the most important civil rights speeches ever delivered by a sitting American president.

By June of 1963, John F. Kennedy has been president for nearly two and a half years.

While Kennedy had long privately expressed his deep moral objections to the treatment of black people in American society and indicated support for New federal legislation. 

His public comments ranged from cautious moderate criticism to a 1950s version of “both sides-ism” but were mostly nonexistent.

In June of 1963, however the man and the moment met.

Alabama Governor George Wallace’s staged photo op defiance of federal law by standing in the school house doorway had lasted less than 90 minutes. 

On June 11th 1963 two black students were peaceful enrolled at the University of Alabama under the protection of a federalized Alabama National Guard commanded by US Marshals under the direction of the Department of Justice and the Attorney General of the United States.

Kennedy’s advisors recommended and Fully expected that the president would NOT address the American people that evening. 

With a little less than 18 months until to the 1964 elections, the President’s legislative agenda and his political future depended upon the votes Southern Democrats in Congress and those of their politically unforgiving constituents. 

The President had other ideas. Kennedy saw a way to exercise moral leader on an issue where he had to that point failed. He would request Network Television airtime to address the nation on the issue of civil rights. 

The facts and statistics on racial inequality in the United States described by President Kennedy to the American people that evening had even never been acknowledged by a President before - much less spoken in such a detailed and direct language. 

In a telegram to the White House after watching the President’s remarks in Atlanta with other civil rights leaders, the Reverend Dr Martin Luther King Jr. described the address as ONE OF THE MOST ELOQUENT, PROFOUND,AND UNEQUIVOCAL PLEAS FOR JUSTICE AND FREEDOM OF ALL MEN, EVER MADE BY ANY PRESIDENT.

Dr King knew that Kennedy was moved by his now famous “Letter from Birmingham Jail” - written just weeks before. 

To President Kennedy and many Americans Dr. King’s letter was more than than a spirited defense of civil disobedience. It was an indictment of white indifference.

As you listen to the speech, you will hear Kennedy echoing King’s “Letter”

The President rejects the idea that Black Americans should have to wait for equality. "Who among us," Kennedy asks the American people, "would then be content with counsels of patience and delay?"

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Jun 07, 2021
ENCORE: Hill Women - with Cassie Chambers
26:39

Our guest this week is a writer, lawyer, speaker and an advocate. Cassie Chambers grew up in Eastern Kentucky, graduated from Yale College, the Yale School of Public Health, the London School of Economics, and Harvard Law School, where she was president of the Harvard Legal Aid Bureau, a student-run law firm that represents low-income clients.


Cassie received a Skadden Fellowship to return to Kentucky to do legal work with domestic violence survivors in rural communities.


In 2018, Cassie helped pass Jeanette’s Law, which eliminated the requirement that domestic violence survivors pay an incarcerated spouse’s legal fees in order to get a divorce.


Her new book, Hill Women: Finding Family and a Way Forward in the Appalachian Mountains, celebrates the amazingly resilient women in her family and the beloved mountain culture that helped shape her.

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May 17, 2021
ENCORE: FDR on Democracy with Professor Harvey Kaye - Part 2
1:10:48

This week we welcome back historian and sociologist Harvey J. Kaye for Part 2 of our discussion of his important book FDR on Democracy: The Greatest Speeches and Writings of President Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

Harvey J. Kaye is Professor Emeritus of Democracy and Justice Studies and Director of the Center for History and Social Change at the University of Wisconsin-Green Bay.

An award-winning author and writer, he has written 9 books – including:

Follow Professor Kaye on Twitter @harveyjkaye

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May 10, 2021
SpyTalk: Shots in the Dark
56:10
Jeanne Meserve looks into the mysterious directed-energy attacks on officials in Washington with Mark Zaid, lawyer for CIA and State Department victims. Then Ronen Bergman, author of a groundbreaking book on Israeli assassination operations, talks with Jeff Stein about the effect of Mossad’s hits on Iran’s nuclear scientists and uranium facilities. Last but hardly least, Jeanne talks at length with technology venture capitalist Gilman Louis about his work with the CIA and the perils of losing the race on artificial intelligence to America’s adversaries.
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If you become a member of the DSR Network, you’ll receive benefits such as ad-free listening via private feed, discounts to virtual events and Deep State Radio Swag, and access to the member-only Slack community. This is one of the most closely followed podcasts among the people influencing the most important decisions in Washington and worldwide today. 
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May 09, 2021
ENCORE: FDR on Democracy with Professor Harvey Kaye - Part 1
1:12:25

This week we welcome historian and sociologist Harvey J. Kaye for Part 1 of our discussion of his important book FDR on Democracy: The Greatest Speeches and Writings of President Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

Harvey J. Kaye is Professor Emeritus of Democracy and Justice Studies and Director of the Center for History and Social Change at the University of Wisconsin-Green Bay.

An award-winning author and writer, he has written 9 books – including:

Follow Professor Kaye on Twitter @harveyjkaye

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May 03, 2021
SpyTalk: A CIA Spy in Syria, and US Responses to Russian, Chinese and Other Adversary Hacking
54:33
This week, in the debut edition of the SpyTalk podcast, co-host Jeff Stein talks to the Washington Post’s Joby Warrick about an extraordinary CIA operation in Syria, as told in his new book, Red Line. Jeff and co-host Jeanne Meserve also discuss the Biden administration’s recent expulsion of suspected Russian spies, then Jeanne talks with former NSA Director and Cyber Command chief Admiral Mike Rogers about Chinese, Russian and other hackers’ infiltration of U.S. computer networks.


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May 02, 2021
A Tribute to Walter Mondale
51:37

Walter Frederick "FritzMondale (January 5, 1928 – April 19, 2021) was a politician, statesman, diplomat, and lawyer who served as a U.S. senator from Minnesota from 1964 to 1976 and as the 42nd vice president of the United States from 1977 to 1981 under President Jimmy Carter.. In 1984 he was the Democratic Party's nominee for president of the united states.

As a Senator, Mondale had been the primary sponsor of the Fair Housing Act of 1968 – transformative legislation that outlawed the Refusal to sell or rent a dwelling to any person because of their race, color, religion or national origin.

Walter Mondale was the first vice president to have an office in the White House and established the concept of an "activist Vice President." He began the tradition of weekly lunches with the president, which continues to this day. More importantly, he expanded the vice president's role from figurehead to presidential advisor, full-time participant, and troubleshooter for the administration. Subsequent vice presidents have followed this model.[38

In 1984 he made history as the Democratic presidential nominee when he selected New York Congresswoman Geraldine Ferraro as his running mate. Making her the first woman on a national ticket

In August of 2019, we had the honor and privilege of spending some with former Vice President Mondale as Joe Lockhart and I traveled to Minneapolis to interview him for Words Matter

Joe had served in a senior position on Mondale’s 1984 Presidential Campaign and as far as Walter Mondale was concerned - that made him part of the family, literally.

They had kept in touch over the years. The former Vice President regularly held events and get togethers with his former staffers where ever he traveled - and Joe had always attended no matter how busy he was. 

At 91, Mondale was still very sharp and as always polite, courteous and inquisitive. He asked about Joe’s wife and children by name and remembered small details about their last visit that Joe himself had forgotten. 

He wanted to understand all he could about how podcasts worked, how many people listened, and why they were popular.

What impressed me most about him were his humility, self awareness and introspection. While most politicians can muster faux humility – during a campaign – that was not what Walter Mondale was all about. As with everything else - he was sincere and genuine. 

Mondale was brutally honest and realistic about why his 1984 campaign had been soundly defeated. Even with the microphones turned off, he was complimentary of former Presidents Reagan and George HW Bush - And unlike like most politicians- he took full responsibility (even for things that were not his fault) for the historic loss to Ronald Reagan. 

As we got ready to leave, the former Vice President was the embodiment of Minnesota Nice - he thanked us for making the trip, told us how much he enjoyed the interview, made Joe promise to send his regards to his family and even asked if we were all set with ride to airport. 

As he walked us to the elevator - he shook my hand and gave Joe a hug and told us both to “keep up the good fight”. 

Last weekend - just days before his passing Walter Mondale sent a final message to his staff:

Dear Team,

Well my time has come. I am eager to rejoin Joan and Eleanor. Before I Go I wanted to let you know how much you mean to me. Never has a public servant had a better group of people working at their side!

Together we have accomplished so much and I know you will keep up the good fight.

Joe in the White House certainly helps.

I always knew it would be okay if I arrived some place and was greeted by one of you!

My best to all of you!

Fritz

With that let’s listen to Joe Lockhart’s interview with the late, great former Vice President - Walter Mondale. 


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Apr 26, 2021
Deep State Radio: A Tale of Two COVIDS
48:20
On the one hand, America's vaccine roll out is making great progress. On the other, in the last week COVID cases are on the rise in 38 states. On the one hand, the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines are working remarkably well. On the other hand, Astra Zeneca and perhaps Johnson and Johnson not so much. (Or maybe the government is over-reacting to a very tiny number of problem cases with the J&J vaccine.) On the one hand we know more about the disease. On the other hand it keeps changing and about a third of us just don't want to know the science. Where does this lead? We discuss with Pulitzer Prize-winner Laurie Garrett, former senior Obama health specialist Dr. Kavita Patel and Ryan Goodman of NYU Law School. Also: A special conversation about latest revelations about Trump and Russia and the Biden team's response.  
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If you become a member of the DSR Network, you’ll receive benefits such as ad-free listening via private feed, discounts to virtual events and Deep State Radio Swag, and access to the member-only Slack community. This is one of the most closely followed podcasts among the people influencing the most important decisions in Washington and worldwide today. 
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Apr 22, 2021
Columbine - 22 years Later
4:03

The shooting at Columbine High School in Colorado happened 22 years ago this week. Katie gives a special Final Word to Laura Hall and Sarah Bush -- sisters who survived the shooting, and in 2019 ran the Boston Marathon together.

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Apr 19, 2021
"Good Trouble" with John Lewis
28:27

John Robert Lewis was a politician, statesman, and civil rights leader who served in the United States House of Representatives for Georgia's 5th congressional district from 1987 until his death in 2020. He was the chairman of the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee from 1963 to 1966.

Born near Troy, Alabama, on February 21, 1940, he the third of ten children of Willie Mae and Eddie Lewis.[2][3] His parents were sharecroppers in rural Pike County, Alabama,

As a child in rural Alabama in the 1940s, young John Lewis was disturbed by the evidence that he saw around him of the South’s Jim Crow racial segregation laws. He wanted to know why they existed.

Even as a small child he would ask his mother why black children went to separate schools from white children, why Black people were forced to use separate bathrooms, separate drinking fountains and sit in separate sections in public places.

His mother discouraged his curiosity, by saying, “Don’t get in the way. Don’t get in trouble.” But, as John Lewis often explained later, he went in the other direction – he got in the way. He got into trouble – GOOD TROUBLE as he famously called it.

Inspired by the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr who he first met at the age of 18, John Lewis was already an established Civil Leader by the age of 21. He had been one of the 13 original Freedom Riders in 1961 and lead the way in desegregating interstate transportation

At 23, John Lewis became the chairman of the  Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee and was one of the "Big Six" leaders of groups who organized the August 1963 March on Washington. He was the youngest person to speak at the Lincoln Memorial on August 28th 1963 – on the same stage that Dr. King delivered his iconic “I have a Dream” Speech.

While he held many important leadership roles in the civil rights movement and the fight to end legalized racial segregation in the United States. the cause John Lewis became most associated with was that of Voting Rights.

In 1965, John Lewis organized some of the voter registration efforts during the Selma voting rights campaign, and became nationally known for his prominent role in the Selma to Montgomery marches.[49] 

On March 7, 1965 – a day that would become known as "Bloody Sunday" – Lewis and fellow activist Hosea Williams led over 600 marchers across the Edmund Pettus Bridge in Selma, Alabama.

At the end of the bridge and the city-county boundary, the marchers were met by Alabama State Troopers who ordered them to disperse.

When the marchers stopped to pray, the police discharged tear gas and mounted troopers charged the demonstrators, beating them with nightsticks. Lewis's skull was fractured, but he was aided in escaping across the bridge to Brown Chapel, a church in Selma that served as the movement's headquarters.[50] Lewis bore scars on his head from this incident for the rest of his life.[51]

In March 2015, on the 50th anniversary of Bloody Sunday, President Barack Obama, delivered a speech  in Selma and then John Lewis lead the way as President Obama, former President George W. Bush and 40,000 Civil Rights Movement veterans and marched across that very same bridge.

With that – let’s listen to the honorable John Robert Lewis talk about the importance of  “good trouble”  

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Apr 12, 2021
Deep State Radio: It's Not Too Early to Predict What Biden Era Politics Will Be Like
44:49
By this time during the presidency of the former guy, his national security advisor had been booted, the Muslim ban had been tried and Comey was days from getting fired. We also knew that the GOP was simply not going to do anything about even the worst things Trump was doing. So it's not too early to make some prognostications about about the political weather we can expect in the Biden Era. The bad news is, we already know the GOP is still Trump's GOP, obstructionist at best, anti-democratic, racist, corrupt and traitorous at worst. The good news is that so far, Joe Biden has managed to by-pass the Beltway and win bi-partisan support by listening to the American people and giving them the kind of programs and change the majority of them have long supported. Will this continue? What could result in a course change? We discuss with Max Boot of the Council on Foreign Relations and the Washington Post, Dr. Kavita Patel, former Obama White House official and practicing physician and Ryan Goodman, NYU Law professor and co-editor of "Just Security." Join us
Each week, we’re bringing you a new episode of one of our favorite podcasts, Deep State Radio.
Deep State Radio, hosted by David Rothkopf, produces new episodes 2-3 times per week and brings together top experts, policymakers, and journalists from the national security, foreign policy, and political communities. You can subscribe to the podcast on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts.
If you become a member of the DSR Network, you’ll receive benefits such as ad-free listening via private feed, discounts to virtual events and Deep State Radio Swag, and access to the member-only Slack community. This is one of the most closely followed podcasts among the people influencing the most important decisions in Washington and worldwide today. 
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Apr 10, 2021
Preview: SPY AFFAIR from Wondery
7:38
A charismatic Russian woman arrives in the US on a mission to improve relations between the two countries, and she soon makes some powerful friends. But who is Maria Butina? And who is she working for? As Maria gets closer to the rich and connected she also attracts the attention of the FBI. In the politically charged world of US-Russia relations, everyone has secrets and almost nothing is what it seems. From Wondery, the makers of The Shrink Next Door and Dr. Death comes SPY AFFAIR a story about deception, appearances and betrayal. Hosted by Celia Aniskovich.
Listen today at wondery.fm/SAWordsMatter


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Apr 06, 2021
Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. - "I've Been to the Mountain Top"
50:58

On April 3, 1968 the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was in Memphis, Tennessee to lend his support, his help, and his leadership to the Memphis Sanitation Worker’s Strike.

That February, Black sanitation workers had walked off the job because two of them had been crushed to death in a garbage compacting truck. There was already unrest and tension because the Black workers were paid poorly and treated even worse. They deserved a raise and better working conditions.

On March 28, Dr. King participated in a huge Memphis march, but to his dismay, it ended in violence. With the intention of leading a peaceful march later that week, Dr. King returned to Memphis on April 3. That evening, he spoke at Mason Temple, then the Church of God in Christ world headquarters. 

As he had throughout the tumultuous struggle for Civil Rights during the 1950s and 60s, Dr. King called on America and Americans to live up to the promise of our founding creed, and to honor the words of our founding documents. 

As Dr. King came to the end of his speech, he talked about his 1958 attempted assassination, the bomb threat that delayed his plane that day, and threats made against him in Memphis. 

As a storm raged outside the packed church, Dr. King prophetically spoke of his own mortality.

The next day, Thursday, April 4, 1968, Dr. King was at the Lorraine Motel with aides and friends; Rev. Billie Kyles of Memphis arrived to take the group to dinner. At about 6 p.m. Dr. King stood with Rev. Kyles on the balcony outside his Room 306 and told musician Ben Branch to be sure to play “Take My Hand, Precious Lord” at the rally that evening.

Then, as Dr. King leaned over the balcony railing to speak with his young aide Reverend Jesse Jackson  he was struck down by an assassin’s bullet.

He was 39 years old.

Later that evening, in Indianapolis, Indiana – presidential candidate, Senator Robert Kennedy delivered the news of Dr. King’s murder to a crowd of black and white supporters.

Exactly two months later Robert Kennedy himself was assassinated in Los Angeles after winning the California Democratic presidential primary.

With that, let’s listen to the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr’s “I've Been to the Mountain Top” in its entirety.

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Apr 05, 2021
Deep State Radio: One-on-one with Gayle Tzemach Lemmon: Why It is So Important to Tell the Stories of Heroic Women
37:47
Too much of world history is written by men about men for men. The result is that cultural biases of a male-centric world are reinforced. But another consequence is that the vitally important stories about heroic women who are shaping our communities an our futures go unnoticed. Gayle Tzemach Lemmon, author of the Daughters of Kobani, is addressing this shortcoming with powerful books telling the story of remarkable women across the greater Middle East. We discuss with her the future of the US in the region, the future of women in the region and how average American can make a difference in resetting our priorities. Don't miss it.
Each week, we’re bringing you a new episode of one of our favorite podcasts, Deep State Radio.
Deep State Radio, hosted by David Rothkopf, produces new episodes 2-3 times per week and brings together top experts, policymakers, and journalists from the national security, foreign policy, and political communities. You can subscribe to the podcast on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts.
If you become a member of the DSR Network, you’ll receive benefits such as ad-free listening via private feed, discounts to virtual events and Deep State Radio Swag, and access to the member-only Slack community. This is one of the most closely followed podcasts among the people influencing the most important decisions in Washington and worldwide today. 
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Apr 03, 2021
Preview: SPY AFFAIR from Wondery
7:38
A charismatic Russian woman arrives in the US on a mission to improve relations between the two countries, and she soon makes some powerful friends. But who is Maria Butina? And who is she working for? As Maria gets closer to the rich and connected she also attracts the attention of the FBI. In the politically charged world of US-Russia relations, everyone has secrets and almost nothing is what it seems. From Wondery, the makers of The Shrink Next Door and Dr. Death comes SPY AFFAIR a story about deception, appearances and betrayal. Hosted by Celia Aniskovich.
Listen today at wondery.fm/SAWordsMatter


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Apr 03, 2021
Preview: SPY AFFAIR from Wondery
7:38
A charismatic Russian woman arrives in the US on a mission to improve relations between the two countries, and she soon makes some powerful friends. But who is Maria Butina? And who is she working for? As Maria gets closer to the rich and connected she also attracts the attention of the FBI. In the politically charged world of US-Russia relations, everyone has secrets and almost nothing is what it seems. From Wondery, the makers of The Shrink Next Door and Dr. Death comes SPY AFFAIR a story about deception, appearances and betrayal. Hosted by Celia Aniskovich.
Listen today at wondery.fm/SAWordsMatter


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Mar 31, 2021
Preview: SPY AFFAIR from Wondery
7:38
A charismatic Russian woman arrives in the US on a mission to improve relations between the two countries, and she soon makes some powerful friends. But who is Maria Butina? And who is she working for? As Maria gets closer to the rich and connected she also attracts the attention of the FBI. In the politically charged world of US-Russia relations, everyone has secrets and almost nothing is what it seems. From Wondery, the makers of The Shrink Next Door and Dr. Death comes SPY AFFAIR a story about deception, appearances and betrayal. Hosted by Celia Aniskovich.
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Mar 30, 2021
Geraldine Ferraro Becomes the First Woman on a National Ticket
32:15

Geraldine Ferraro was a politician, diplomat, attorney - and also a teacher, activist, author, and businesswoman.

The daughter of an Italian immigrant, Geraldine lost her father when she was 8, and moved with her family to the South Bronx where her mother worked in the garment industry to support them.

She was an outstanding student winning a full scholarship to college, and earning a degree in English with honors. 

Geraldine Ferraro worked as a public school teacher in Queens before entering Fordham University School of Law in 1957. She continued to teach second grade at PS 57 in Queens during the day while going to law school in Manhattan at night and was of 2 women in her graduating class of 179 to earn a Juris Doctorate in 1960. 

Ferraro raised a family and worked as a civil lawyer for 13 years - occasionally doing pro bono work for women in family court.

She joined the Queens District Attorneys Office in 1974 heading the new Special Victims Bureau that dealt with sex crimes, child abuse, and domestic violence. 

Before she made history as the first woman to run for office on a national ticket - Geraldine Ferraro was a rising star in the Democratic Party and a powerful voice in Congress. 

Elected in 1978 to Represent New York’s 9th Congressional District in Brooklyn and Queens, a seat once held by Joseph Pulitzer and later by Chuck Schumer.

In only her second term she served in a prestigious leadership position as Secretary of the House Democratic Caucus - under legendary Speaker Tip O’Neil. A position perviously held by Shirley Chisholm and later by James Clyburn. 

In July of 1984, former Vice President Walter Mondale made history when he asked Ferraro to join the Democratic ticket as his running mate when he became the presidential nominee to challenge incumbent President Ronald Reagan and his Vice President George HW Bush.

One hundred and ninety-seven years after the Constitutional Convention was held in Philadelphia in 1787, a female candidate was finally nominated for national office at the Democratic Convention in San Francisco in 1984.

36 years, 6 months and 2 days later Senator Kamila Harris – also the daughter of immigrants, was sworn in as the 49th Vice President of the United States

Let’s listen to the Honorable Geraldine Ferraro’s historic acceptance speech for the 1984 Democratic Vice Presidential nomination


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Mar 29, 2021
Deep State Radio: When Can We Go To War and Who Decides?
48:29
Few decisions a government can make are more consequential than deciding when the use of force is warranted. In the US a debate has raged for decades about how much latitude a president should have in making such decisions and what role Congress should play. Legal contortionism has turned congressional authorizations for the use of force in one circumstance into blank permissions slips still cited by president decades later. This week, the Congress has begun to reconsider these profoundly important issues and we are joined by experts Steve Pomper, formerly of the Obama NSC, and Oona Hathaway, professor at Yale Law School, as well as regular co-host Ryan Goodman, co-editor of Just Security and professor at NYU Law School for a discussion on what changes are needed and which are possible. Don't miss it.
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Deep State Radio, hosted by David Rothkopf, produces new episodes 2-3 times per week and brings together top experts, policymakers, and journalists from the national security, foreign policy, and political communities. You can subscribe to the podcast on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts.
If you become a member of the DSR Network, you’ll receive benefits such as ad-free listening via private feed, discounts to virtual events and Deep State Radio Swag, and access to the member-only Slack community. This is one of the most closely followed podcasts among the people influencing the most important decisions in Washington and worldwide today. 
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Mar 28, 2021
Maya Angelou at Spelman College
27:53

Dr. Maya Angelou was a poet, professor, memoirist, actor, singer, author, educator and civil rights activist. She published seven autobiographies, three books of essays, several books of poetry, and appeared in numerous plays, movies, and television shows over a 65 year career. She received dozens of awards and more than 50 honorary degrees

In literary circles, Maya Angelou is best known for her series of seven autobiographies, which focus on her childhood and early adult experiences. The first, I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings (1969), tells of her life up to the age of 17 and brought her international recognition and acclaim.

Her books center on themes including racism, identity, and family

She was active in the Civil Rights Movement and worked closely with both Martin Luther King Jr. and Malcolm X

On January 20, 1993, Angelou became the second poet in American history -- and the first African American and woman -- to read a poem at a presidential inauguration, when she recited her original work "On the Pulse of Morning" at the first inauguration of Bill Clinton.

She was the first poet to make an inaugural recitation since Robert Frost at the inauguration of John F. Kennedy in 1961.

Angelou's audio recording of the poem won the 1993 Grammy Award for "Best Spoken Word" - introducing her to a whole new generation and bringing much deserved recognition for her previous works.

As evidenced by her Grammy win - Maya Angelou was as brilliant a performer as she was a writer.

In 2011 - she awarded the national’s highest civilian honor - the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

But of all her awards and accolades - one of the most memorable was her 1992 commencement address at Spelman College -an private historically black women's liberal arts college in Atlanta, Georgia

The Spelman Messenger later wrote - 

“ Maya Angelou left an indelible mark upon the world. Her wit, wisdom, and work will continue to inspire generations of Spelman women.” 

With that - let’s listen to Grammy winning poet Maya Angelou and her iconic 1992 Spelman College Commencement Address

 


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Mar 23, 2021
Angela Davis and the Importance of Academic Freedom
35:49

Dr. Angela Davis is an activist, philosopher, academic and author.

Born in Birmingham, Alabama during World War II - she attended segregated black elementary and middle schools in the 1950s.

Davis studied philosophy at Brandis University and did her graduate work in Germany with famed philosopher Herbert Marcuse.

She would later say that: “Herbert Marcuse taught me that it was possible to be an academic, an activist, a scholar, and a revolutionary.”

After returning to the United States, Angela Davis joined the Communist Party, became involved in the Black Panther Party, the Student Non-Violent Coordinating Committee, second-wave feminism and actively protested the War in Vietnam.

In 1969 Angela Davis became an acting Associate Professor of Philosophy at the University of California Los Angeles.

That same year the University of California initiated a policy against hiring Communists.[

At their September 19, 1969, meeting, the Board of Regents - urged on by then-Governor Ronald Regan, fired Professor Davis from her teaching post because of her political beliefs.”

On October 8th 1969, Angela Davis gave a speech at UCLA protesting her dismissal.

“Education” she told a cheering student audience, “should not mold the mind according to a prefabricated architectural plan. It should rather liberate the mind. Because the mind has to be liberated in order to perceive the world, to see society, to understand what its advantages are, what its disadvantages are.” 

In that same speech Angela Davis drew persuasive links between the suppression of academic freedom, academic and social institutional racism, and the rise of totalitarianism in German during the 1930s. 

Later that month Angela Davis was reinstated by a California Superior Court judge and completed teaching the 1969-70 academic year. 

With that - let’s listen to Angela Davis talk about academic freedom, institutional racism and the dangers of totalitarianism.


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Mar 15, 2021
Eleanor Roosevelt and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights
8:04

This week, in honor of Women’s History Month, we wanted to pay tribute to one of the most consequential leaders in American History. Eleanor Roosevelt was the niece of the 26th President of the United States and the wife of the 32nd – but make no mistake, she was a political thinker, an international activist and a World Leader in her own right.

Of her many achievements and successes, perhaps none was more personally satisfying and poignant than her work - after FDR’s death - at the United Nations -- in particular, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

Adopted at the Third Session of the U.N. General Assembly held in Paris, to this day it is one of the most meaningful and important accomplishments in the 75-year history of that World Assembly. The Universal Declaration of Human Rights, as Ken Burns noted in his award-winning series, The Roosevelts, was history's first attempt at laying out the principles under which all nations should behave toward their own citizens and toward each other.

And it was largely the work of one delegate from the United States, Eleanor Roosevelt.

It was no easy task leading the international drafting committee at the dawn of the Cold War. But the former First Lady, as always, was shrewd, persuasive, and relentless.

As tough as she was tactful, she drove her fellow delegates so hard that one felt compelled to remind her that they "had human rights too."

"If they wanted shorter days, Theodore Roosevelt's favorite niece answered, "they should make shorter speeches."

At 3 a.m. on the morning of December 10th, 1948, the General Assembly approved the Universal Declaration of Human Rights without a single dissenting vote.

And after the historic vote, the entire General Assembly did something it had never done before and has never done since. It rose to give a standing ovation to a single delegate, Eleanor Roosevelt.

Please listen to Eleanor Roosevelt 1948 speech on the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

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Mar 08, 2021
Deep State Radio: Washington Got You Pissed Off? Us Too!
47:18
Weren't we supposed to get a break from being angry at DC? At the political inanity? The recklessness? The law breaking with impunity? Sure its the same old people being inane and reckless and breaking the law but even with Democrats in charge in the White House and in both houses of Congress, progress is painfully hard to come by, setbacks are frequent, Republicans seem disciplined and Democrats can't get together around core ideas. Or can they? Are there glimmers of hope? Patterns or opportunities that should trigger a little more optimism? We discuss with Greg Sargent of the Washington Post, Dr. Kavita Patel, of the Brookings Institution and formerly of the Obama White House and Ryan Goodman, professor at NYU Law School and co-editor of "Just Security." Join us. You might feel better.

Each week, we’re bringing you a new episode of one of our favorite podcasts, Deep State Radio.

Deep State Radio, hosted by David Rothkopf, produces new episodes 2-3 times per week and brings together top experts, policymakers, and journalists from the national security, foreign policy, and political communities. You can subscribe to the podcast on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts.

If you become a member of the DSR Network, you’ll receive benefits such as ad-free listening via private feed, discounts to virtual events and Deep State Radio Swag, and access to the member-only Slack community. This is one of the most closely followed podcasts among the people influencing the most important decisions in Washington and worldwide today. 

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Mar 06, 2021
Shirley Chisholm - Black Feminist Pioneer
13:54

As Black History Month ends and Women’s History Month begins, we wanted to honor a pioneer in the struggle for equal rights for both movements.

Shirley Anita Chisholm was a politician, educator, activist, community organizer and author.

Born in Brooklyn, New York in 1924, as a child during the Great Depression - while her parents struggled to make ends meet - young Shirley and her two sisters were sent to Barbados to live with their Grandmother. Long before the Civil Rights movement in the United States, young

Shirley watched as her community advocated for their rights as she witnessed the Barbados workers' and anti-colonial independence movements. Chisholm would later say about her time on Barbados with her Grandmother: “Granny gave me strength, dignity, and love. I learned from an early age that I was somebody. I didn't need the Black Revolution to tell me that."

In 1964, after nearly two decades as an educator and community activist, Chisholm ran for and was elected to the New York State Assembly.

Even within the New York Democratic Party, Shirley Chisholm had faced resistance to candidacy based on her sex - so she took her

campaign directly to women, using her role as Brooklyn branch president of Key Women of America to mobilize female voters.

Four years later - in 1968, Shirley Chisholm became the first Black woman elected to the United States Congress, representing New York's 12th congressional district for seven terms from 1969 to 1983. 

Her 1968 congressional campaign slogan was "Unbought and Unbossed" - which later became the title of her memoir and a documentary film on her amazing life. 

On January 25, 1972, in a Baptist church in her district in Brooklyn - Shirley Chisholm became the first African-American candidate for a major party's nomination for President of the United States, and the first woman to run for the Democratic Party's presidential nomination.

In her presidential announcement - she called for a "bloodless revolution" at the forthcoming Democratic nominating convention and described herself as representative of the people offering a new articulation of American identity: 

"I am not the candidate of Black America, although I am Black and proud. I am not the candidate of the women's movement of this country, although I am a woman and equally proud of that. I am the candidate of the people and my presence before you, symbolizes a new era in American political history."

Let’s listen to Civil Rights and Women’s Rights Pioneer Shirley Chisholm announce her candidacy for President of the United States. 


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Feb 26, 2021
Deep State Radio: The Accountability Conundrum: How Do We Form Commissions to Investigate 1/6 or COVID in the Current Political Environment?
52:54

When the 9/11 Commission was formed in the wake of the Al Qaeda attacks on the US, the current was united in grief and anger but politically polarized and it was very difficult to find a path forward that would be credible and an effective driver of reform. But the divisions of the early 2000s were nothing compared to what we have today and the problem is compounded by the active culpability one political party has in both of the issues that demand investigation. So, how do we get to accountability today? We discuss this question with former 9/11 Commissioner, former Indiana congressman Tim Roemer as well as Ryan Goodman of NYU Law School and "Just Security" and Dr. Kavita Patel of the Brookings Institution and former senior Obama White House staffer. Join us.

Each week, we’re bringing you a new episode of one of our favorite podcasts, Deep State Radio.

Deep State Radio, hosted by David Rothkopf, produces new episodes 2-3 times per week and brings together top experts, policymakers, and journalists from the national security, foreign policy, and political communities. You can subscribe to the podcast on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts.

If you become a member of the DSR Network, you’ll receive benefits such as ad-free listening via private feed, discounts to virtual events and Deep State Radio Swag, and access to the member-only Slack community. This is one of the most closely followed podcasts among the people influencing the most important decisions in Washington and worldwide today. 

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Feb 26, 2021
Malcolm X - "The Ballot or the Bullet"
57:29

He was born Malcolm Little in Omaha, Nebraska- and he became one of the most celebrated, influential and misunderstood leaders of the Civil Rights movement of the 1960s

Malcolm X was a Muslim Minister and human rights activist - best known as a pioneer of the Black Nationalist Movement and as an apostle for self-respect and uncompromising resistance to white oppression.

By the time he was assassinated 56 years ago this week - Malcolm X had become one of the greatest and most influential African Americans in history.

He is credited with raising the self-esteem of Black Americans and reconnecting them with their African heritage. He is largely responsible for the spread of Islam in the Black community in the United States.

Many African Americans, especially those who lived in cities in the Northern and Western United States, felt that Malcolm X better articulated their struggle against racism and inequality than the mainstream civil rights movement did.

He argued that if the U.S. government was unwilling or unable to protect Black people, Black people should protect themselves.

Although he had publicly criticized the mainstream civil rights movement for its emphasis on nonviolence and racial integration - after he left the Nation of Islam in March of 1964, Malcolm X declared his willingness to cooperate with that Movement.

Of those civil rights leaders he said: “I've forgotten everything bad that [they] have said about me, and I pray they can also forget the many bad things I've said about them."

Originally delivered in Cleveland, on April 3rd 1964 - this recorded version was delivered in April 12th in Detroit.

Today, historians regard The Ballot or the Bullet” as one of the most influential speech in American history. 

Far from a call to violence – Malcolm X sought educate his community as to the extent of their political power:

The whites are so evenly divided that every time they vote, the race is so close they have to go back and count the votes all over again. Which means that any block, any minority that has a block of votes that stick together is in a strategic position. Either way you go, that's who gets it. You're in a position to determine who'll go to the White House and who'll stay in the doghouse. 

While distancing himself from the Nation of Islam - Malcolm X described his continued commitment to Black Nationalism, which he defined as the philosophy that African Americans should control the political, economic and social destinies of their own communities.

Like many of the great speeches we feature - Malcolm X tied his and his people’s struggle to American’s Founding and embraced the spirit of the American Revolution:

The white man made the mistake of letting me read his history books. He made the mistake of teaching me that Patrick Henry was a patriot, and George Washington – there wasn't nothing non-violent about ol' Pat, or George Washington. "Liberty or death"- is what brought about the freedom of whites in this country from the English.

This is why I say it's the ballot or the bullet. It's liberty or it's death. It's freedom for everybody or freedom for nobody.

Here is Malcolm X’s historic speech - "The Ballot or the Bullet" - in its entirety.

 

 

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Feb 22, 2021
Deep State Radio: On January 6, the Noose Was for Mike Pence...Now a Legal Noose Is Tightening Around Trump
50:03
While Trumpists may have celebrated that the disgraced former president was not convicted by the Senate and the Senators who voted to convict have been attacked for their show of conscience, the reality is that Trump's legal prospects are not good. Mitch McConnell, his one time ally, called for his prosecution. Multiple cases in which he is a target are under way--in NY, Atlanta, and Washington DC. A commission is being called to investigate the January 6th insurgency. We discuss where these may lead and how the GOP may handle the consequences with former Trump Admin senior staffer Olivia Troye and Ryan Goodman of NYU Law School and "Just Security." Don't miss it.

Each week, we’re bringing you a new episode of one of our favorite podcasts, Deep State Radio. Deep State Radio, hosted by David Rothkopf, produces new episodes 2-3 times per week and brings together top experts, policymakers, and journalists from the national security, foreign policy, and political communities. You can subscribe to the podcast on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you become a member of the DSR Network, you’ll receive benefits such as ad-free listening via private feed, discounts to virtual events and Deep State Radio Swag, and access to the member-only Slack community. This is one of the most closely followed podcasts among the people influencing the most important decisions in Washington and worldwide today. You can learn more by visiting thedsrnetwork.com. Listeners to Words Matter will receive 25% off of the regular membership price. Use code wordsmatter at checkout.

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Feb 19, 2021
Senate Chaplain, Rear Admiral (Ret.) Barry C. Black
4:50

Last week, as the House Managers presented their Impeachment case -- a step-by-step, rigorous, fact-based prosecution that clearly drew the connection between Donald Trump’s words and the violence that ensued in that very chamber little more than a month earlier - we thought back to the stirring words of the Senate Chaplain, Rear Admiral (Ret.) Barry C. Black following that failed insurrection.

At 4:45am on the morning of January 7th - just hours after an angry mob had violently attacked the US Capitol - a joint session of Congress certified the free and fair election of Joe Biden as the 46th President of the United States.

As the proceeding drew to a close - Vice President Mike Pence, who just hours earlier was targeted for execution by the mob in that very building - recognized the Senate Chaplain to give the final invocation.

Let’s listen to the powerful prayer offered by the Senate Chaplain, Rear Admiral (Ret.) Barry C. Black.



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Feb 15, 2021
Deep State Radio: When is an Open and Shut Case Not an Open and Shut Case?
45:47
The House Impeachment managers proved beyond any reasonable doubt that Donald Trump incited an insurrection against the US government that resulted in six deaths over 140 injuries and profound damage to our democracy. Good as they were, we have to admit, it wasn't that tough to do because we all saw the events unfold. So, ensuring justice will be done should be easy, right? Not so fast. The Senate Kangaroo court you will remember from a year ago is back in session and most of the GOP simply do not care about facts or the law or the Constitution or the judgment of history. Which is why Trump will be acquitted. But...what then? What does it mean? Can other prosecutions follow? We discuss with former US Attorney Barb McQuade, NYU Law's Ryan Goodman and Dr. Kavita Patel of the Brookings Institution. We also include an update on a bunch of breaking COVID news with Kavita. So...don't miss this episode.

Each week, we’re bringing you a new episode of one of our favorite podcasts, Deep State Radio. Deep State Radio, hosted by David Rothkopf, produces new episodes 2-3 times per week and brings together top experts, policymakers, and journalists from the national security, foreign policy, and political communities. You can subscribe to the podcast on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you become a member of the DSR Network, you’ll receive benefits such as ad-free listening via private feed, discounts to virtual events and Deep State Radio Swag, and access to the member-only Slack community. This is one of the most closely followed podcasts among the people influencing the most important decisions in Washington and worldwide today. You can learn more by visiting thedsrnetwork.com. Listeners to Words Matter will receive 25% off of the regular membership price. Use code wordsmatter at checkout.

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Feb 12, 2021
The Legendary Barbara Jordan on Impeachment
16:05

Barbara Jordan was a lawyer educator politician and a leader of the civil rights movement a Democrat and Houston native. Jordan was the first African-American elected to the Texas Senate after Reconstruction and the first southern African-American woman elected to the United States House of Representatives.


On July 25th 1974 Congresswoman Jordan delivered a televised opening statement as the House Judiciary Committee began consideration of articles of impeachment against President Richard Nixon. It is regarded by historians as one of the greatest speeches in all of American history. Congresswoman Jordan offered a passionate and powerful defense of the United States Constitution. A document, she noted, did not include people like her when it was written and completed in 1787.


Congresswoman Jordan also provided thoughtful and well documented explanations of our system of checks and balances which were designed to stop any politician from abusing their power. She stuck to the facts and the law and noted the seriousness and the solemn duty she and her fellow members were about to undertake. As she quoted extensively from the Founders, Congresswoman Jordan explained that those who had drafted and ratified the Constitution anticipated actions like Nixon's and had created the check of impeachment to guard against such executive overreach and abuse of office. So this week we give Congresswoman Barbara Jordan the Final Word.

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Feb 08, 2021
Deep State Radio: In Search of the Republican "Taliban We Can Work With"
56:34
Has the GOP lost its mind? Or is its embrace and defense of lunatics, violent extremists, traitors, sex offenders, racists and the highly corrupt a shrewd, carefully considered political strategy? How should Democrats respond? How do they get accountability for abuses when the GOP absolutely refuses to go along? How do they achieve progress on healing our wounds when the other party actively wants to deepen them? And what kind of role will President Biden play in all this? What has he already shown us? We discuss with Dr. Kavita Patel, former top health advisor in the Obama White House, Rosa Brooks, professor at Georgetown Law School and Ryan Goodman, co-editor of "Just Security" and professor at NYU Law School. It's a great wide ranging conversation that you won't want to miss. Join us.

Each week, we’re bringing you a new episode of one of our favorite podcasts, Deep State Radio. Deep State Radio, hosted by David Rothkopf, produces new episodes 2-3 times per week and brings together top experts, policymakers, and journalists from the national security, foreign policy, and political communities. You can subscribe to the podcast on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you become a member of the DSR Network, you’ll receive benefits such as ad-free listening via private feed, discounts to virtual events and Deep State Radio Swag, and access to the member-only Slack community. This is one of the most closely followed podcasts among the people influencing the most important decisions in Washington and worldwide today. You can learn more by visiting thedsrnetwork.com. Listeners to Words Matter will receive 25% off of the regular membership price. Use code wordsmatter at checkout.

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Feb 05, 2021
Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Impeachment
10:18

As it looks more and more likely that the Republicans in the Senate will not hold former President Donald Trump accountable for his actions in inciting an insurrection against the United States, we thought it important to remind our listeners why it matters.

And we could think of no more articulate voice than the duly elected Speaker of the People's House.

Let's remember what happened.

The President of the United States encouraged his supporters to launch an attack on the Capitol in an effort to stop Congress from certifying the free and fair election of Joe Biden. Six people were killed and dozens more permanently injured.

We have seen such things happen in other countries. But for those who think that America is exceptional, it was a rude awakening.

"It can't happen here," they said

It did.

On January 13th, as the House of Representatives began considering the Article of Impeachment now before the United States Senate, Speaker Nancy Pelosi reminded those gathered in the very chamber that had been violently attacked by an angry mob just one week earlier, that words matter, truth matters and accountability matters.

We could not agree more.

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Feb 01, 2021
Deep State Radio: Was Trump's Coup Attempt on January 6th the Start of Something Much Worse?
53:47
While some may look at the Trump coup attempt on January 6th as the last desperate act of the disgraced former president to remain in power, it is already being seen among white supremacist groups as a long expected signal of an escalation in domestic unrest leading to a civil war they have long planned and hoped for. The fact that Trump is likely to go unpunished for leading the January 6th effort and the Republican Party is taking a strong stand against accountability for that assault may only make matters worse. We discuss the case for Trump's conviction by the Senate, how we got to the 6th and what it augurs for the future with Elizabeth Neuman, Director of the Republican Accountability Project and former U.S. Assistant Secretary of Homeland Security and Ryan Goodman, co-editor of "Just Security" and professor of law at NYU Law School. Don't miss this chilling conversation.

Each week, we’re bringing you a new episode of one of our favorite podcasts, Deep State Radio. Deep State Radio, hosted by David Rothkopf, produces new episodes 2-3 times per week and brings together top experts, policymakers, and journalists from the national security, foreign policy, and political communities. You can subscribe to the podcast on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you become a member of the DSR Network, you’ll receive benefits such as ad-free listening via private feed, discounts to virtual events and Deep State Radio Swag, and access to the member-only Slack community. This is one of the most closely followed podcasts among the people influencing the most important decisions in Washington and worldwide today. You can learn more by visiting thedsrnetwork.com. Listeners to Words Matter will receive 25% off of the regular membership price. Use code wordsmatter at checkout.

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Jan 29, 2021
INAUGURATION SPECIAL: Amanda Gorman, Lady Gaga & Joe Biden
34:20

Last week, after 4 long, divisive and tragic years, we witnessed the continuation of a 244-year-old American tradition.

It was not a peaceful transfer of power. As incoming White House Chief of Staff, Ron Klain correctly noted, “there was nothing inevitable about this day.”

Nonetheless - last Wednesday we watched a quadrennial ceremony that Ronald Reagan once called both “commonplace and miraculous” - commonplace because it has happened every 4 years for the 244 - and miraculous because it has happened every 4 years for the last 244.

It was, as John F Kennedy said exactly 60 years earlier- “not a victory of party, but a celebration of freedom.”

It is a ritual that in the past many of us had taken for granted. Not this year - if the last 4 years have taught us anything it is that words truly do have power and they have consequences.

Not since Abraham Lincoln, had a new president given an inaugural address to a more divided nation while under the real threat of armed conflict.

And Joe Biden rose to the occasion.

Let us never forget how close we came to last week NOT happening and as Lincoln said at Gettysburg – rededicate ourselves to a new birth of freedom – where truth, facts and power of words are given their proper place. #WordsMatter

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Jan 25, 2021
Deep State Radio: Three Wednesdays - Storming the Capitol, Impeachment & Inauguration...Where Does It Leave the Average American?
47:05
The past two weeks are unlike any America has ever seen. In the midst of a national pandemic and economic crisis, we saw an unprecedented insurrection on Capitol Hill incited by our then president, an impeachment and then the inauguration of a new leader. On Capitol Hill it was a traumatic period of highs and lows. But it has left America shaken too and asking what's next. We discuss this with Rep. Veronica Escobar of Texas and Dr. Kavita Patel, former senior health advisor in the Obama White House. It's an extraordinary conversation and you won't want to miss it. Join us for this special episode.

Each week, we’re bringing you a new episode of one of our favorite podcasts, Deep State Radio. Deep State Radio, hosted by David Rothkopf, produces new episodes 2-3 times per week and brings together top experts, policymakers, and journalists from the national security, foreign policy, and political communities. You can subscribe to the podcast on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you become a member of the DSR Network, you’ll receive benefits such as ad-free listening via private feed, discounts to virtual events and Deep State Radio Swag, and access to the member-only Slack community. This is one of the most closely followed podcasts among the people influencing the most important decisions in Washington and worldwide today. You can learn more by visiting thedsrnetwork.com. Listeners to Words Matter will receive 25% off of the regular membership price. Use code wordsmatter at checkout.

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Jan 22, 2021
In Honor of Dr. Martin Luther King - "A Letter from Birmingham Jail"
53:40

Last week would have been the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s 92nd birthday. Given all that has happened over the last year and the last few weeks, we wanted to highlight one of the most significant and consequential calls for racial equality and social justice in American History - “Letter from Birmingham Jail”


On Good Friday, April 12, 1963 - the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr and fellow civil rights leaders were arrested in Birmingham, Alabama as they lead a now famous Campaign of non-violent direct action to protest racial segregation and oppression in that Southern City.


In the early 1960s, Birmingham was one of the most racially segregated cities in the United States - enforced by both law and culture. Black citizens faced legal and economic oppression, and violent retribution when they attempted to even draw attention to these conditions


The Birmingham Campaign would become a pivotal moment in the Civil Rights Movement of the 1960s. President Kennedy’s Address to the Nation on Civil Rights, the August 1963 March on Washington and many other events were a direct result of this campaign and Dr. King’s now famous letter. 

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Jan 18, 2021
Deep State Radio: Ask the Experts - How Do We Make January 6 a Positive Turning Point for America?
49:42
We have never seen events like those that occurred on January 6. We have never had a president who posed the kind of threat to our security presented by Donald Trump. We are facing new challenges to our society and government associated with social media and widespread radicalization. How do we respond to these challenges? Who must be held accountable? We conducted a webinar with three experts--Asha Rangappa, former FBI Agent and currently a senior lecturer at Yale's Jackson Institute for Global Affairs, Harry Litman, former US Attorney and Deputy Assistant Attorney General, and Ryan Goodman, co-editor of Just Security and professor at NYU Law School. Our listeners asked them questions. You'll be interested in their answers. Join us.

Each week, we’re bringing you a new episode of one of our favorite podcasts, Deep State Radio. Deep State Radio, hosted by David Rothkopf, produces new episodes 2-3 times per week and brings together top experts, policymakers, and journalists from the national security, foreign policy, and political communities. You can subscribe to the podcast on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you become a member of the DSR Network, you’ll receive benefits such as ad-free listening via private feed, discounts to virtual events and Deep State Radio Swag, and access to the member-only Slack community. This is one of the most closely followed podcasts among the people influencing the most important decisions in Washington and worldwide today. You can learn more by visiting thedsrnetwork.com. Listeners to Words Matter will receive 25% off of the regular membership price. Use code wordsmatter at checkout.

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Jan 15, 2021
ENCORE: Stacey Abrams
36:46

We honored to be joined this week by New York Times bestselling author, serial entrepreneur, nonprofit CEO and political leader Stacey Abrams. In 2018, after serving for eleven years in the Georgia House of Representatives, seven as Democratic Leader, Stacey Abrams became the Democratic nominee for Governor of Georgia, winning more votes than any other Democrat in the state’s history.

Leader Abrams was the first black woman to become the gubernatorial nominee for a major party in the United States, and she was the first black woman and first Georgian to deliver a Response to the State of the Union.

After witnessing the gross mismanagement of the 2018 election by the Georgia Secretary of State’s office, Leader Abrams launched Fair Fight to ensure every American has a voice in our election system.

Over the course of her career, Leader Abrams has founded multiple organizations devoted to voting rights, training and hiring young people of color, and tackling social issues at both the state and national levels.

Stacey Abrams is a lifetime member of the Council on Foreign Relations, where she serves on the Subcommittee on Diversity.

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Jan 11, 2021
Deep State Radio: The Trump Coup - A Week in Washington Like No Other
56:55
In the midst of a pandemic, with almost 4000 people dying every day, when the nation should be coming together, the President of the United States once again tore it asunder. Worse, what he did was mobilize the first violent coup attempt in US history on the back of his months long seditious efforts to nullify the November election and steal the sovereign power of American voters. As it happens, he also did it on a week when the Democratic Party secured control of the US Senate, another development with seismic consequences in Washington. We discuss these events and their meaning with former Hillary Clinton and Stacey Abrams advisor Karen Finney, election law specialist Rick Hasen, former Obama health policy advisor Dr. Kavita Patel and NYU Law Professor and co-editor of "Just Security" Ryan Goodman. It's an important deep dive into the meaning behind the events of an extraordinary week. Join us.
Each week, we’re bringing you a new episode of one of our favorite podcasts, Deep State Radio. Deep State Radio, hosted by David Rothkopf, produces new episodes 2-3 times per week and brings together top experts, policymakers, and journalists from the national security, foreign policy, and political communities. You can subscribe to the podcast on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you become a member of the DSR Network, you’ll receive benefits such as ad-free listening via private feed, discounts to virtual events and Deep State Radio Swag, and access to the member-only Slack community. This is one of the most closely followed podcasts among the people influencing the most important decisions in Washington and worldwide today. You can learn more by visiting thedsrnetwork.com. Listeners to Words Matter will receive 25% off of the regular membership price. Use code wordsmatter at checkout.

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Jan 08, 2021
Deep State Radio: Why Having the Most Diverse Cabinet in History Matters
40:10
Joe Biden's cabinet will look more like America than any in our history. It will contain more women, more people of color, a wide range of ages, political perspectives and regional points of view. Does that matter? How? And what is still missing? We discuss and then we turn our attention to the latest developments in the COVID crisis, Trump's increasingly erratic behavior as his exit approaches and when, if ever, life may return to "normal." It's a conversation with our regulars Dr. Kavita Patel, former head of health policy in the Obama White House, and Ryan Goodman, co-editor of "Just Security" and professor at NYU Law School. You won't want to miss it.
Each week, we’re bringing you a new episode of one of our favorite podcasts, Deep State Radio. Deep State Radio, hosted by David Rothkopf, produces new episodes 2-3 times per week and brings together top experts, policymakers, and journalists from the national security, foreign policy, and political communities. You can subscribe to the podcast on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you become a member of the DSR Network, you’ll receive benefits such as ad-free listening via private feed, discounts to virtual events and Deep State Radio Swag, and access to the member-only Slack community. This is one of the most closely followed podcasts among the people influencing the most important decisions in Washington and worldwide today. You can learn more by visiting thedsrnetwork.com. Listeners to Words Matter will receive 25% off of the regular membership price. Use code wordsmatter at checkout.


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Jan 06, 2021
FDR on Democracy with Professor Harvey Kaye - Part 2
1:10:48

This week we welcome back historian and sociologist Harvey J. Kaye for Part 2 of our discussion of his important book FDR on Democracy: The Greatest Speeches and Writings of President Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

Harvey J. Kaye is Professor Emeritus of Democracy and Justice Studies and Director of the Center for History and Social Change at the University of Wisconsin-Green Bay.

An award-winning author and writer, he has written 9 books – including:

Follow Professor Kaye on Twitter @harveyjkaye

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Jan 04, 2021
ENCORE: His Very Best with Jonathan Alter
40:08

Jonathan Alter is a best-selling author, documentary filmmaker, television producer, NBC News analyst, columnist. And the Co-host, Sirius XM Alter Family Politics.

Jonathan"s books on Presidents Franklin Roosevelt and Barack Obama The Defining Moment: FDR's Hundred Days and the Triumph of Hope, and The Promise: President Obama, Year One, detail two Chief Executives who took office during times of extraordinary crisis.

His most recent book is His Very Best: Jimmy Carter, A Life.

You can order Jonathan's latest book here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/His-Very-Best/Jonathan-Alter/9781501125485

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Dec 28, 2020
FDR on Democracy with Professor Harvey Kaye - Part 1
1:12:25

This week we welcome historian and sociologist Harvey J. Kaye for Part 1 of our discussion of his important book FDR on Democracy: The Greatest Speeches and Writings of President Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

Harvey J. Kaye is Professor Emeritus of Democracy and Justice Studies and Director of the Center for History and Social Change at the University of Wisconsin-Green Bay.

An award-winning author and writer, he has written 9 books – including:

Follow Professor Kaye on Twitter @harveyjkaye

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Dec 21, 2020
The intersection of Wall Street & Washington with William D. Cohan
48:12

William D. Cohan is a special correspondent for Vanity Fair, and through his work there and other writings, Bill has proven himself to be one of the most meticulous and intrepid journalists working today. A former senior Wall Street M&A investment banker for 17 years at Lazard Frères & Co., Merrill Lynch and JPMorganChase, Bill is a New York Times bestselling author covering the important intersection between Wall Street and Washington. Bill is the author of 6 books:

The Last Tycoons: The Secret History of Lazard Frères & Co. 

House of Cards: A Tale of Hubris and Wretched Excess on Wall Street

Money and Power: How Goldman Sachs Came to Rule the World 

The Price of Silence: The Duke Lacrosse Scandal

Why Wall Street Matters

Four Friends: Promising Lives Cut Short 

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Dec 14, 2020
Deep State Radio: Trump's Endgame: How Bad Can it Get?
54:30
Despite his historic losing streak in the courts (not to mention his big election loss), Donald Trump continues to argue he was robbed. And many in his own party are supporting Trump's arguments and his baseless conspiracy theories. In fact the vast majority of Republicans now believe what is a complete fairy tale from a president who, whether he likes it or not, has just a few short weeks left in office. What is the significance of this extraordinary GOP unity around what amounts to nothing less than a coup attempt, an effort to disenfranchise millions of American voters simply because they did not support Trump. We discuss with NYU Law School's Ryan Goodman and former FBI special agent and senior lecturer at Yale's Jackson Institute for Global Affairs Asha Rangappa. Don't miss it.
Each week, we’re bringing you a new episode of one of our favorite podcasts, Deep State Radio. Deep State Radio, hosted by David Rothkopf, produces new episodes 2-3 times per week and brings together top experts, policymakers, and journalists from the national security, foreign policy, and political communities. You can subscribe to the podcast on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you become a member of the DSR Network, you’ll receive benefits such as ad-free listening via private feed, discounts to virtual events and Deep State Radio Swag, and access to the member-only Slack community. This is one of the most closely followed podcasts among the people influencing the most important decisions in Washington and worldwide today. You can learn more by visiting thedsrnetwork.com. Listeners to Words Matter will receive 25% off of the regular membership price. Use code wordsmatter at checkout.


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Dec 12, 2020
Deep State Radio: The One in Which They Scare the Shit Out of You
56:46
We are about to enter a period of national catastrophe unlike any we have ever seen, unlike the past year, unlike wars through which we have lived. Mass death during this time is preventable if you listen to scientists and use common sense. But half the country does not. They have embraced an 11th Century combination of superstition and ignorance and are condemning their relatives, their neighbors and their friends to death. Even with a vaccine and competent administration on the horizon, the next three months will be terrible and the crisis may linger into next summer. For all these reasons, listen to this special conversation with Dr. Kavita Patel, a practicing physician who is also a former top Obama White House health policy official, Laurie Garrett, Pulitzer Prize-winning expert on pandemics, and Ryan Goodman of "Just Security" and NYU Law School. It is a conversation you will want to share with your family and friends.
Each week, we’re bringing you a new episode of one of our favorite podcasts, Deep State Radio. Deep State Radio, hosted by David Rothkopf, produces new episodes 2-3 times per week and brings together top experts, policymakers, and journalists from the national security, foreign policy, and political communities. You can subscribe to the podcast on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you become a member of the DSR Network, you’ll receive benefits such as ad-free listening via private feed, discounts to virtual events and Deep State Radio Swag, and access to the member-only Slack community. This is one of the most closely followed podcasts among the people influencing the most important decisions in Washington and worldwide today. You can learn more by visiting thedsrnetwork.com. Listeners to Words Matter will receive 25% off of the regular membership price. Use code wordsmatter at checkout.


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Dec 08, 2020
Fox News "Hoax" with Brian Stelter
32:00

Brian Stelter, host of CNN's Reliable Sources, joins Katie Barlow and Joe Lockhart to talk about his new book HOAX - Donald Trump, Fox News, and the Dangerous Distortion of Truth. Brian talks about the battle between Fox News journalists and the network’s primetime opinion hosts - Tucker Carlson, Laura Ingraham, and Sean Hannity. Brian credits former Fox anchor Gretchen Carlson as being the catalyst behind the international #MeToo movement. Brian also explains how American lives were lost during the Coronavirus pandemic because viewers believed the information they saw and heard on the network.

If you are interested in Brian Stelter's book HOAX - Donald Trump, Fox News, and the Dangerous Distortion of Truth you can find it at: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Hoax/Brian-Stelter/9781982142445

Sign up for Brian's must read and highly influential Reliable Sources newsletter here: https://form.cnn.com/reliable_sources

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Dec 07, 2020
Make America RADICAL Again with Harvey Kaye
46:11

This week we welcome historian and sociologist Harvey J. Kaye to discuss his important book Take Hold of Our History: Make America Radical Again .

Harvey J. Kaye was formerly the Ben and Joyce Rosenberg Professor of Democracy and Justice Studies and Director of the Center for History and Social Change at the University of Wisconsin-Green Bay.

An award-winning author and writer, he has written 9 books – including:

Thomas Paine and the Promise of America (2005)

The Fight for the Four Freedoms: What Made FDR and the Greatest Generation Truly Great (2015)

 “Why Do Ruling Classes Fear History?” and Other Questions (1996)

Follow Professor Kaye on Twitter @harveyjkaye

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Nov 30, 2020
Deep State Radio: Megashocker - A Normal Conversation About Policy and Politics
55:36
We go where no one else dares: To imagine a Trumpless future, a normal American president doing normal American president-y things like making domestic and foreign policy, succeeding sometimes, faltering other times and doing his best for the American people. Yes, we bring together a great group of experts to have a discussion about what the Biden Administration is likely to look like, how it will differ from the Obama years, where successes are likely and where we have concerns. Joining the conversation are Harvard University's Stephen Walt, the Chicago Council on Global Affairs Ivo Daalder, former senior Obama White House staffer Dr. Kavita Patel and Ryan Goodman of NYU Law School and "Just Security." It will transport you into a world you might not have thought you'd ever see again. Join us.
Each week, we’re bringing you a new episode of one of our favorite podcasts, Deep State Radio. Deep State Radio, hosted by David Rothkopf, produces new episodes 2-3 times per week and brings together top experts, policymakers, and journalists from the national security, foreign policy, and political communities. You can subscribe to the podcast on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you become a member of the DSR Network, you’ll receive benefits such as ad-free listening via private feed, discounts to virtual events and Deep State Radio Swag, and access to the member-only Slack community. This is one of the most closely followed podcasts among the people influencing the most important decisions in Washington and worldwide today. You can learn more by visiting thedsrnetwork.com. Listeners to Words Matter will receive 25% off of the regular membership price. Use code wordsmatter at checkout.


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Nov 27, 2020
How to Connect Across the Political Divide with Tania Israel
33:55

Tania Israel is an award winning psychologist,, professor, author, activist, speaker, researcher, and counselor. As well as an occasional playwright, actor and lyricist. Professor Israel is psychologist in the Gevirtz Graduate School of Education at the University of California, Santa Barbara (UCSB) and the author of Beyond Your Bubble: How to Connect Across the Political Divide, Skills and Strategies for Conversations That Work. 

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Nov 23, 2020
Deep State Radio: Are We Entering What Will Be the Least Festive Holiday Season in Our Lifetimes?
58:24
With COVID spiking we will pass over 450,000 dead of the pandemic within months. Hospitals and morgues are being stretched past capacity. The White House has given up doing anything about the crisis and is not helping the incoming administration prepare. Holiday plans for many Americans will no longer be able to include family gatherings or travel. The economic crisis lingers and the Trump Administration is engaged in an extraordinary and worrisome campaign of attacking our government from within. We discuss with Pulitzer Prize-winner Laurie Garrett, former senior Trump White House official Oliva Troye, and NYU Law School's Ryan Goodman as part of a special session that included live questions from our listeners. Don't miss this special episode.
Each week, we’re bringing you a new episode of one of our favorite podcasts, Deep State Radio. Deep State Radio, hosted by David Rothkopf, produces new episodes 2-3 times per week and brings together top experts, policymakers, and journalists from the national security, foreign policy, and political communities. You can subscribe to the podcast on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you become a member of the DSR Network, you’ll receive benefits such as ad-free listening via private feed, discounts to virtual events and Deep State Radio Swag, and access to the member-only Slack community. This is one of the most closely followed podcasts among the people influencing the most important decisions in Washington and worldwide today. You can learn more by visiting thedsrnetwork.com. Listeners to Words Matter will receive 25% off of the regular membership price. Use code wordsmatter at checkout.


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Nov 17, 2020
His Very Best with Jonathan Alter
40:08

Jonathan Alter is a best-selling author, documentary filmmaker, television producer, NBC News analyst, columnist. And the Co-host, Sirius XM Alter Family Politics.

Jonathan"s books on Presidents Franklin Roosevelt and Barack Obama The Defining Moment: FDR's Hundred Days and the Triumph of Hope, and The Promise: President Obama, Year One, detail two Chief Executives who took office during times of extraordinary crisis.

His most recent book is His Very Best: Jimmy Carter, A Life.

You can order Jonathan's latest book here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/His-Very-Best/Jonathan-Alter/9781501125485





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Nov 16, 2020
Deep State Radio: After the Past Four Years, Do We Have Enough Energy to Celebrate Properly?
45:34

As of the recording of this edition of Deep State Radio, no victor had been called in the presidential race. But it seems likely Joe Biden is the next president of the United States. Will we be able to appreciate and celebrate that or will challenges to the results, a rapidly deepening COVID crisis, election irregularities, and the possibility of divided government yuck our collective yum? We discuss with Greg Sargent of the Washington Post, former Obama WH official Dr. Kavita Patel, election integrity advocate Jennifer Cohn and Ryan Goodman of NYU Law School. Don’t miss it.

Each week, we’re bringing you a new episode of one of our favorite podcasts, Deep State Radio. Deep State Radio, hosted by David Rothkopf, produces new episodes 2-3 times per week and brings together top experts, policymakers, and journalists from the national security, foreign policy, and political communities. You can subscribe to the podcast on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you become a member of the DSR Network, you’ll receive benefits such as ad-free listening via private feed, discounts to virtual events and Deep State Radio Swag, and access to the member-only Slack community. This is one of the most closely followed podcasts among the people influencing the most important decisions in Washington and worldwide today. You can learn more by visiting thedsrnetwork.com. Listeners to Words Matter will receive 25% off of the regular membership price. Use code wordsmatter at checkout.

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Nov 11, 2020
She the People with Aimee Allison
27:54

Aimee Allison is founder and president of She the People, a national network elevating the voice and power of women of color. She brings together voters, organizers, and elected leaders in a movement grounded in values of love, justice, belonging, and democracy.

In April 2019, she convened the first presidential forum for women of color, reaching a quarter of the American population. A democratic innovator and visionary, she leads national efforts to build inclusive, multiracial coalitions led by women of color. She leverages media, research and analysis to increase voter engagement and advocate for racial, economic and gender justice. Aimee is a columnist for Newsweek and the author the book of Amy of None.


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Nov 09, 2020
"Our Voices, Our Vote" with Wesley Lowery
41:05

Katie and Jen sit down with award-winning journalist and author, Wesley Lowery. Wesley has reported for the Los Angeles Times, the Boston Globe, CBS News and in 2016 won a Pulitzer Prize as a lead on the Washington Post’s Fatal Force” Project. He is the author of They Can't Kill Us All: Ferguson, Baltimore, and a New Era in America's Racial Justice Movement  Wesley's latest project with Tiffany Cross - More than a Vote: Our Voices, Our Vote is available on Audible.

More than a Vote is an organization of Black athletes and artists lead by LeBron James, working to combat systemic, racist voter suppression by educating, energizing, and protecting the Black community in 2020. Read their letter asking fans to join in the fight against Black voter suppression.

Follow Wesley Lowery on Twitter: @WesleyLowery

Download More than a Vote: Our Voices, Our Vote with Tiffany Cross: https://www.audible.com/pd/More-Than-a-Vote-Audiobook/B08LF4GYYV

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Nov 02, 2020
Deep State Radio: Can We Get There From Here: The Precarious Path to "The Third Reconstruction"
47:16

A Democratic victory in the 2020 elections is not a sure thing. As we have discussed on other episodes, the elections are fraught with risks. Further, once an election takes place, there are many ways that the President or his allies can try to cling to power. Only after there is a smooth transition and new leadership however, can the US turn to the business of effectively confronting our looming challenges associated with the pandemic, economic recovery and the climate crisis. Rising to those challenges could be a moment of great hope, even of rebirth, for the United States. We discuss how we get there from here with Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Maryland), one of the very smartest members of the U.S. Congress, and with our regulars, Dr. Kavita Patel, former senior official in the Obama White House and Ryan Goodman, professor at NYU Law School and co-editor of "Just Security." Don't miss it.

Each week, we’re bringing you a new episode of one of our favorite podcasts, Deep State Radio. Deep State Radio, hosted by David Rothkopf, produces new episodes 2-3 times per week and brings together top experts, policymakers, and journalists from the national security, foreign policy, and political communities. You can subscribe to the podcast on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you become a member of the DSR Network, you’ll receive benefits such as ad-free listening via private feed, discounts to virtual events and Deep State Radio Swag, and access to the member-only Slack community. This is one of the most closely followed podcasts among the people influencing the most important decisions in Washington and worldwide today. You can learn more by visiting thedsrnetwork.com. Listeners to Words Matter will receive 25% off of the regular membership price. Use code wordsmatter at checkout.

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Oct 31, 2020
Deep State Radio: The View from Inside the Trump White House: It Ain’t Pretty
53:00

Some of the most hard-hitting and shocking criticisms of Donald Trump have come from insiders in his administration. From Rex Tillerson’s calling his former boss a “fucking moron” to his former Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats saying that having watched Trump up close the only conclusion he could draw was that the Russian’s had something on the president. Miles Taylor, former chief of staff in the Department of Homeland Security, and Olivia Troye, a former top national security aide to Vice President Mike Pence are among the most vocal former insiders turned critic. On this edition of Deep State Radio join them, NYU Law School Professor Ryan Goodman and former White House senior health advisor Dr. Kavita Patel to get a glimpse of the dysfunction up close. Join us.

Each week, we’re bringing you a new episode of one of our favorite podcasts, Deep State Radio. Deep State Radio, hosted by David Rothkopf, produces new episodes 2-3 times per week and brings together top experts, policymakers, and journalists from the national security, foreign policy, and political communities. You can subscribe to the podcast on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you become a member of the DSR Network, you’ll receive benefits such as ad-free listening via private feed, discounts to virtual events and Deep State Radio Swag, and access to the member-only Slack community. This is one of the most closely followed podcasts among the people influencing the most important decisions in Washington and worldwide today. You can learn more by visiting thedsrnetwork.com. Listeners to Words Matter will receive 25% off of the regular membership price. Use code wordsmatter at checkout.

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Oct 27, 2020
The Debate about Debates - with Susan Page
26:50

This week Katie and Jennifer are joined by award-winning journalist, author and the Washington Bureau Chief for USA Today, Susan Page.


Susan has covered six White House administrations and ten presidential elections, and interviewed nine presidents. She was the first woman to serve as music chairman of the Gridiron Club show and was the president of the club, the oldest association of journalists in Washington, in 2011. She was president of the White House Correspondents Association in 2000.


In 2019 she wrote a biography of former First Lady Barbara Bush titled The Matriarch: Barbara Bush and the Making of an American Dynasty.  And is working on an upcoming biography of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.


Earlier this month she served as the moderator of the 2020 vice presidential debate between Mike Pence and Kamala Harris, which took place on October 7, 2020 in Salt Lake City.


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Oct 26, 2020
Deep State Radio: A Song of Fire and Ice...and Cyber and Terrorists and Lawyers
48:55
In Game of Thrones leadership decisions were made with the help of dragons and Moon Doors and Valyrian steel daggers. In America today, people play just as rough but their tools are cyber warfare, disinformation, mobilized extremist groups and court orders that suppress the vote. It is so sordid it makes you wish there were still a dragon or two available. But absent that, understanding and preparing for the threats democracy faces is our best option. That's on this episode we speak to former FBI Agent and cyber specialist Clint Watts, former White House official Dr. Kavita Patel and "Just Security" co-editor and NYU law professor Ryan Goodman. Don't miss it.
Each week, we’re bringing you a new episode of one of our favorite podcasts, Deep State Radio. Deep State Radio, hosted by David Rothkopf, produces new episodes 2-3 times per week and brings together top experts, policymakers, and journalists from the national security, foreign policy, and political communities. You can subscribe to the podcast on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you become a member of the DSR Network, you’ll receive benefits such as ad-free listening via private feed, discounts to virtual events and Deep State Radio Swag, and access to the member-only Slack community. This is one of the most closely followed podcasts among the people influencing the most important decisions in Washington and worldwide today. You can learn more by visiting thedsrnetwork.com. Listeners to Words Matter will receive 25% off of the regular membership price. Use code wordsmatter at checkout.


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Oct 20, 2020
SCOTUS on the Hot Seat
55:06

This week, Jennifer Duck, Emmy award-winning producer and instructor of journalism in the department of Cinema, Media and Television questions Katie about the Senate Judiciary Committee for the next Supreme Court Justice.


Listen to Jen and Katie, talk law, politics, and journalism.

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Oct 19, 2020
DSR: The 3 a.m. Call is Coming from Inside the White House
53:29
The biggest national security story in America today is the biggest domestic story and the biggest political story and the biggest economic story and the biggest public health story. The COVID outbreak at the White House might have resulted in greater empathy for those who have suffered so due to the pandemic but the opposite seems to be happening. It seems to be leading to an effort by the president and his supporters to double down on disastrous policy choice and to put more Americans at risk. We discuss with Pultizer Prize Winner Laurie Garrett, Dr. Kavita Patel, former WH staffer, Kori Schake of the American Enterprise Institute and Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law Center. Don't miss it.
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Oct 13, 2020
Spot the Troll: Social Media & the 2020 Campaign
50:27

Katie and Jennifer Duck talk to Clemson University Professor Darren Linvill about social media and the 2020 campaign. Professor Linvill is a academic, an author, a researcher and an expert on social media disinformation and political discourse. As an Associate Professor in Clemson's Department of Communications, his research explores state sponsored social media disinformation and its influence on civil and political discourse. In addition to his academic publications, Dr. Linvill has written for The Washington Post and Rolling Stone. He and fellow Clemson Professor Patrick Warren created the Spot the Troll Quiz to help promote social media literacy.

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Oct 12, 2020
October Surprises - What's Next?
42:05

Mary Ellen Pethel and Jennifer Duck join Katie to talk about the debates, President Trump's COVID-19 diagnosis and the history of women as candidates and voters.

ABOUT THE GUESTS

Mary Ellen Pethel is an author, historian, digital humanist, and academic entrepreneur who serves as an Assistant Professor at Belmont University. Dr. Pethel is widely published. Her latest book is Athens of the New SouthAnd she is currently working on a manuscript celebrating the 50th anniversary of Title Nine. She teaches courses such as “Making the Modern City,” which inspired the historical walking tour app, NashvilleSites.org. She also teaches a course called:  "The Good Life” and “Democracy, Media, and the Public Sphere.”

Jennifer Duck -- Emmy award-winning producer and instructor of journalism in the department of Cinema, Media and Television. Prior to her work with Belmont, Jen was a producer for CNN’s Anderson Cooper 360 and Katie Couric’s syndicated show in New York. Additionally, she worked for Oprah Winfrey Network in Los Angeles. Jen began her career at ABC News in Washington, D.C. and traveled around the world aboard Air Force One as White House producer covering President George W. Bush and reported from the campaign trail as President Barack Obama and Senator John McCain canvassed the country in 2008. Jen has been a consultant for Words Matter on-and-off since our launch in August of 2018.

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Oct 05, 2020
Deep State Radio: Our Unfolding Democratic Emergency: The Red Lights are Already Flashing
51:01
The Constitutional rot of the past four years has set the stage for the corruption of our institutions and, equally importantly, for growing delegitimization of our government. This plays into the hands of a president who is ever more desperate to cling to power lest he lose his fortune and his freedom. This in turn has experts who are studying the preparations for the November 3 election to express deep concern that we may be heading into a period of profound crisis for our system, one that, should Trump prevail in undermining the will of the people could mean the collapse of our system and a the onset of a period of national chaos. This is not abstract. Critical, dangerous steps confirming this is the direction we are headed are already taking place. We discuss with Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Barton Gellman, Rosa Brooks of the Georgetown Law Center and Ed Luce of the Financial Times. It is essential listening.
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Oct 02, 2020
Audience of One: Donald Trump, Television, & the Fracturing of America
43:09

It is impossible to understand Donald Trump without understanding America's relationship with television. James Poniewozik is the chief television critic for The New York Times. He often focuses on the intersection between television, politics and culture. He is the author of the new book -- Audience of One: Donald Trump, Television, and the Fracturing of America

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Sep 28, 2020
Deep State Radio: Have We Already Seen the October Surprise?
46:17
Is a resurgent COVID the October Surprise? Is it the death of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg? Will it be the nomination and approval of a replacement for her prior to the election? Will it be the announcement of a vaccine? Or is it tied to the president's reluctance to guarantee a peaceful hand-over of power if he loses. We discuss these options and others with Mimi Rocah, candidate for Westchester, NY, District Attorney, Katie Barlow, attorney and journalist, and Dr. Kavita Patel, practicing physician and former senior Obama White House aide. Co-hosts Ryan Goodman of NYU Law School and David Rothkopf of The DSR Network explore the implications of this week's developments on all these issues with our guests and the discussion is riveting. 
You can subscribe to the podcast on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you become a member of the DSR Network, you’ll receive benefits such as ad-free listening via private feed, discounts to virtual events and Deep State Radio Swag, and access to the member-only Slack community. This is one of the most closely followed podcasts among the people influencing the most important decisions in Washington and worldwide today. You can learn more by visiting thedsrnetwork.com.


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Sep 26, 2020
The Ginsburg Tapes - In Memory of Ruth Bader Ginsburg
27:12

Last week, America lost an iconic jurist and a life long advocate for equal rights. In memory of the Honorable Ruth Bader Ginsburg, we replay Katie's interview with Lauren Moxley, the host of The Ginsburg Tapes Podcast -- which chronicles Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s oral arguments before the then all-male United States Supreme Court from 1972 to 1978 —before she became #Notorious RBG.


The Ginsburg Tapes allows the listener to be a fly on the wall for some of the most important cases in American jurisprudence as future Justice Ginsburg challenged laws treating men and women differently. In between the actually Supreme Court recordings, Lauren puts the cases, the law and even the Justices themselves in historical context and explains how as a lawyer, RBG really did change the World.

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Sep 21, 2020
"HOAX" with Brian Stelter
34:17

Brian Stelter, host of CNN's Reliable Sources, joins Katie Barlow and Joe Lockhart to talk about his new book HOAX - Donald Trump, Fox News, and the Dangerous Distortion of Truth. Brian talks about the battle between Fox News journalists and the network’s primetime opinion hosts - Tucker Carlson, Laura Ingraham, and Sean Hannity. Brian credits former Fox anchor Gretchen Carlson as being the catalyst behind the international #MeToo movement. Brian also explains how American lives were lost during the Coronavirus pandemic because viewers believed the information they saw and heard on the network.

Recorded September 9, 2020

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Sep 14, 2020
"If you don't know, now you know - with Congressman Hakeem Jeffries
50:13

Congressman Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) joins Katie Barlow and Joe Lockhart to talk about the 2020 elections, systemic racism and the Trump Administration’s response to the Coronavirus pandemic. Congressman Jeffries recalls his role in the Impeachment Trial of President Trump, including when he became the first person in history to quote Biggie Smalls on the floor of the United States Senate. He also explains why the future of American democracy may well hinge on the results of the November elections.

Recorded September 4, 2020

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Sep 07, 2020
The Barlow Group: "Rainbows & Rainclouds" with Jen Psaki and Paul Begala
57:24

White House and campaign veterans Jen Psaki and Paul Begala join Katie Barlow and Joe Lockhart for a discussion about the “Rainbows & Rainclouds” of the 2020 presidential campaign. In a McLaughlin Group tribute, Joe joins the panel, and Katie leads the group as they analyze the political landscape heading into the home stretch of the race for the White House. Jen explains the challenges facing Team Biden as they work to keep the Democrats united. Paul says the best strategy for defeating Trump is to ignore his Twitter feed and focus the voter’s attention on his track record and how his Administration has negatively impacted their lives. And Joe discusses Q-Anon – and why Team Trump is looking to this dangerous conspiracy group for new voters. 

Recorded August 28, 2020

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Aug 31, 2020
Trump's "Magic Dust" with Michael Steele
49:52

Former RNC Chairman Michael Steele joins Katie Barlow and Joe Lockhart to talk about the virtual Republican National Convention, the future of his party, and Donald Trump’s “magic dust” with voters that the press and the political class often miss. Steele explains why he joined the Republican Party in the 1970s. He discusses where the party was heading then, and how it continued to grow until 2012. And Steele details how under Donald Trump, the GOP has been transformed into haven for racists, grifters, and conspiracy theorists.

Recorded August 20, 2020

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Aug 24, 2020
Governor Terry McAuliffe
49:38

Former Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe joins Katie Barlow and Joe Lockhart to talk about Vice Presidential Nominee Kamala Harris, the virtual Democratic National Convention and the 3rd Anniversary of Charlottesville. Governor McAuliffe says Senator Harris needs to directly address all of the issues where progressives in the Democratic Party may have concerns about her record. McAuliffe explains how political conventions have been transformed by the Coronavirus pandemic and how they may never again return to what they once were. McAuliffe also discusses Joe Biden’s campaign, systemic racism and the 3rd Anniversary of the Charlottesville Tragedy. 

Recorded August 12, 2020

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Aug 17, 2020
"The Austin Powers Candidate" with Doug Sosnik
44:09

Former White House Political Director Doug Sosnik joins Katie Barlow and Joe Lockhart for an update on the 2020 elections. Sosnik explains how 2016 and 2020 are vastly different for President Trump, who he calls the “Austin Powers” candidate. Sosnik breaks down how the political landscape has been transformed in the midst of the Coronavirus pandemic and how a vast majority of the electorate thinks the country is on the “wrong track”. Sosnik also discusses Joe Biden’s strategy, the impact of early voting on the general election debates, and what impact an “October Surprise” might have on the race between Biden and Trump. 

Recorded August 7, 2020

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Aug 10, 2020
An Interview with Rod Rosenstein
1:07:17

Our guest today served as the 37th Deputy Attorney General of the United States from April 2017 until May 2019. Prior to his appointment, he served as a United States Attorney for the District of Maryland. At the time of his confirmation as Deputy Attorney General on April 25, 2017, he was the nation's longest-serving U.S. Attorney. The Senate approved his nomination by a vote of 94-6.

We are so excited to announce that Words Matter Media is partnering with CAFE Studios to bring you a new season of the Words Matter podcast. CAFE strives to inform its listeners about the most critical issues of the day.

Each week, Katie and Joe will do their best to bring facts and context to the often fraught political conversations that dominate our national discourse. 

They’ll be speaking with an array of guests, including people who have made a great impact on American politics or who make it their business to understand what’s really happening in Washington. 

For now, you can continue to listen to episodes of Words Matter for free. In the coming weeks the show will be available exclusively to members of CAFÉ Insider.

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Aug 03, 2020
Katie and Joe Return
12:30

We're back! This week Katie and Joe officially return with a thank you and a message for our listeners.

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Jul 27, 2020
Presidential Words Matter: FDR at the 1936 Democratic Convention
30:59

Since we currently have a president who doesn't seem to know or even understand the importance of words, especially when they are spoken by the president of the United States, we thought it might be helpful in a time of national crisis to remember that we have had presidents of both parties who did understand this.

President Franklin D. Roosevelt, led our country through difficult times with the power and eloquence of his words.

In 1936 during the Great Depression and as the clouds of war gathered over Europe, he delivered one of the most important political speeches ever given by a sitting president.

The occasion was the Democratic National Convention held that year in Philadelphia four years earlier in 1932. FDR had made history by flying to Chicago and becoming the first presidential candidate to accept his party's nomination in person.

In an earlier episode of Words Matter, we discussed this important speech with Professor Harvey Kaye, who has just published a new book entitled: FDR on Democracy.

In his 1936 acceptance speech, Roosevelt used the language of the founders and decried the economic royalists who were trying to fight back against the progress of the New Deal because it threatened their power.

As you listen to his words, pay particular attention to the part where Roosevelt tells his audience they have a rendezvous with destiny.

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Jul 20, 2020
Presidential Words Matter: Ronald Reagan on the Challenger Disaster
7:06

The Space shuttle Challenger’s launch had already been delayed twice when it finally took off on January 28th 1986. 

This particular launch was widely publicized because for the first time a civilian—a teacher named Christa McAuliffe—was traveling into space. The plan was to have McAuliffe communicate to students from space. According to the New York Times, nearly half of America’s school children aged nine to thirteen watched the event live in their classrooms. 

But tragically - After a short seventy-three seconds into flight, the world was stunned when the shuttle burst into flames, killing all seven crew members on board.

President Ronald Reagan cancelled his scheduled State of the Union address that evening and instead addressed the nation’s grief. 

A young speechwriter — a friend and hero of mine — Peggy Noonan was tasked with drafting the president’s remarks.

It was a heavy burden - as she later recalled “I kind of figured the entire nation had seen an auto accident,”

Peggy Noonan draft a speech that was aimed - as she put it “at those who were 8-years-old, those who are 18, and those who are 80 without patronizing anybody.”

It was one of the greatest speeches in presidential history and earned Ronald Reagan his now famous title “The Great Communicator” 

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Jul 13, 2020
America's Mission Statement - Read by John F. Kennedy
12:49

On July 4th we celebrate the birth of the American Experiment. The Declaration of Independence -- written in the Spring of 1776 by a 33 year old Thomas Jefferson -- is America’s mission statement. And like all mission statements, the words represented not what we were, but what we aspired to be. In fact, the author himself was a gifted writer, but a deeply flawed person who – like his country -- did not embody the ideas and ideal of that document.

For more than two hundred and forty years, the story of America has been the struggle between those who want to move us close to the words of our mission statement – and those who want to stop them.

It is often forgotten that the Declaration itself was meant to be spoken. 

In 2004 the John F. Kennedy Presidential Library released a previously unknown 1957 recording of then-Senator Kennedy reading the Declaration of Independence in New York on July 4th.

So this week to honor Independence Day -- And to remind ourselves that as a country must continue the struggle to turn America’s founding words into reality – we give John F. Kennedy’s reading of the Declaration of Independence the final word.

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Jul 06, 2020
Preview - GURU: The Dark Side of Enlightenment
7:53

Wondery has new tru-crime mini series that we think you’ll really enjoy.

In the Mid 2000s James Arthur Ray was a charismatic self-help guru who promised his followers a path to wealth and happiness. But not all who followed him finished their journey.

This is the story told in a new true crime mini-series from Wondery called “GURU: The Dark Side of Enlightenment”.

James Arthur Ray wasn’t really well known until he was in a movie called “The Secret”, and then was a guest on Oprah’s TV show a few times. Soon after that, thousands of people started attending his seminars, and he was pegged to be the next great self-help guru.

But what many didn't know about were his more...extreme methods. Methods that pushed his students to their limits, giving some the transformative life experience they dreamed of ... and killing others.

Be sure to subscribe to Wondery’s new tru crime mini-series “GURU: The dark side of enlightenment”,  wondery.fm/wordsmatter_guru on Apple podcasts.

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Jul 01, 2020
Presidential Words Matter: Bill Clinton "Time for Healing" - Oklahoma City, 1995
13:37

This week on Presidential Words Matter - we highlight Bill Clinton’s remarks in the aftermath of the 1995 Oklahoma City Bombing.

On April 19, 1995 a domestic terrorist used a truck bomb to destroy the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Office Building[2] in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma

Perpetrated by American terrorists Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols, the bombing killed at least 168 people, including 19 children,[3] - and injured more than 680 others. 

The blast destroyed more than one third of the building, which had to be demolished.[4] In addition, The blast destroyed or damaged 324 other buildings within a 16-block radius,

Until the September 11 attacks in 2001, the Oklahoma City bombing was the deadliest terrorist attack in the history of the United States. It remains the deadliest confirmed act of domestic terrorism in American history.

Four days later, On April 23, 1995 - President Bill Clinton attended a memorial prayer service in Oklahoma City called “A Time for Healing”  

With the 1996 presidential election less than 18 months away - President Clinton spoke of unity and healing over the politics of division and hatred. 

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Jun 29, 2020
Presidential Words Matter: Barack Obama's Eulogy for the Honorable Reverend Clementa Pinckney
44:11

On June 26th 2015 President Barack Obama delivered the eulogy at the funeral of the Reverend Clementa C. Pinckney, the senior pastor of the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston and a South Carolina State Senator.

Reverend Pinckney and 8 other Black church members had been murdered a week earlier during Bible Study in a racially motivated mass shooting perpetrated by a white supremacist. 

The Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church is one of the oldest Black churches in the United States, and it has long been a center for organizing events related to civil rights

Founded in 1816, the church played an important role in the history of South Carolina, during slavery and Reconstruction, during the civil rights movement of the 1950s and 60s and in the Black Lives Matter movement. 

It is the oldest African Methodist Episcopal Church in the South, often referred to as "Mother Emanuel". 

Rev. Pinckney, was a well known activist who had held rallies after the shooting of Walter Scott by a white police officer two months earlier, in nearby North Charleston. As a state senator, Reverend Pinckney had pushed for legislation requiring police to wear body cameras.

The Reverend and his church were targeted because of their history and role in civil rights activism. 

With a rousing eulogy and a chorus of “Amazing Grace,” President Barack Obama called on the country to honor the nine victims of the South Carolina church massacre by working toward racial healing.

He said that included removing the Confederate battle flag from the South Carolina State House grounds.

“It’s true, the flag did not cause these murders,” The President said, but “we all have to acknowledge the flag has always represented more than just ancestral pride. For many, black and white, that flag was a reminder of systemic oppression and racial subjugation. We see that now.”

“By taking down that flag,” he said, “we express God’s grace.” But I don't think God wants us to stop there.“

On July 6, 2015, the South Carolina Senate voted to remove the Confederate flag from display outside the South Carolina State House. 

Make no mistake - the protests we have seen in the last month are a continuation of that struggle. And none of us can stop - none of us should rest until we dismantle and remove every symbol and every fact of the systemic oppression and racial subjugation that President Obama described in his eulogy of Reverend Pinckney. 

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Jun 22, 2020
Presidential Words Matter: LBJ 1965 Howard University Commencement Address
41:20

On June 4, 1965, President Johnson delivered the commencement address at Howard University, the nation’s most prominent historically black university.

‪In his address, Johnson explained why “opportunity” was not enough to ensure the civil rights of disadvantaged Americans.

‪The ‘To Fulfill These Rights’ speech as it is widely known was the intellectual framework for affirmative action. 

‪President Johnson spoke of racial injustice and economic disparities between black and white Americans. 

‪For many in the audience that day, it was one of the first times they felt a president - any president - really acknowledge the treatment of black citizens from slavery to Jim Crow.

‪As one graduate - Lillian Beard -recalled on the 50th Anniversary - “I believe that afternoon in 1965 changed a lot of minds, because we felt that he spoke directly to us.”

‪LBJ’s Howard University address came only a few months after he had gone before a Joint session of Congress to speak in support of the Selma to Montgomery Voting Rights March.

‪It was in that message to Congress that Johnson famously identified himself with the civil rights movement when he declared, “We shall overcome.”

‪The Howard speech, which was principally the work of presidential speech writer Richard Goodwin and then-Assistant Secretary of Labor Daniel Patrick Moynihan was an extension of Johnson’s March voting-rights speech.

‪The goal was to take the civil rights movement from one focused on legal justice to one focused on economic justice.

‪In the Howard speech, Johnson pointed out that the racial barriers to freedom were slowly tumbling down, but instead of resting on that progress and what his administration had done to that point - Johnson went a step further: “Freedom is not enough,” the President told the graduates.

‪It was important for American society to achieve “equality as a fact and equality as a result.”

‪The next day President received a telegram from Martin Luther King Jr., telling him, “Never before has a president articulated the depths and dimensions of the problems of racial injustice more eloquently and profoundly.”

Dr. King was not exaggerating the importance of the Howard speech.  

In August Johnson would sign the Voting Rights Act of 1965 into law, and two years later, he would appoint Thurgood Marshall to the Supreme Court, making him the nation’s first black justice. 

But unfortunately- the racial transformation Johnson had promised and hoped to bring about when he spoke at Howard did not take place. 

55 years later the same underlying conditions exist and the economic disparities LBJ described have not gotten better - far from it. They have gotten exponentially worse.

If we are to fulfill the promise of social and economic justice made By LBJ to Black Americans more than a half century ago - all of us must commit ourselves to radical and immediate change. Anything less would be a monumental failure.

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Jun 15, 2020
ENCORE: President John F. Kennedy on Civil Rights
18:08

This week we highlight presidential leadership and one of the most important civil rights speeches ever delivered by a sitting American president.

By June of 1963, John F. Kennedy has been president for nearly two and a half years.

While Kennedy had long privately expressed his deep moral objections to the treatment of black people in American society and indicated support for New federal legislation. 

His public comments ranged from cautious moderate criticism to a 1950s version of “both sides-ism” but were mostly nonexistent.

In June of 1963, however the man and the moment met.

Alabama Governor George Wallace’s staged photo op definance of federal law by standing in the school house doorway had lasted less than 90 minutes. 

On June 11th 1963 two black students were peaceful enrolled at the University of Alabama under the protection of a federalized Alabama National Guard commanded by US Marshals under the direction of the Department of Justice and the Attorney General of the United States.

Kennedy’s advisors recommended and Fully expected that the president would NOT address the American people that evening. 

With a little less than 18 months until to the 1964 elections, the President’s legislative agenda and his political future depended upon the votes Southern Democrats in Congress and those of their politically unforgiving constituents. 

The President had other ideas. Kennedy saw a way to exercise moral leader on an issue where he had to that point failed. He would request Network Television airtime to address the nation on the issue of civil rights. 

The facts and statistics on racial inequality in the United States described by President Kennedy to the American people that evening had even never been acknowledged by a President before - much less spoken in such a detailed and direct language. 

In a telegram to the White House after watching the President’s remarks in Atlanta with other civil rights leaders, the Reverend Dr Martin Luther King Jr. described the address as ONE OF THE MOST ELOQUENT, PROFOUND, AND UNEQUIVOCAL PLEAS FOR JUSTICE AND FREEDOM OF ALL MEN, EVER MADE BY ANY PRESIDENT.

Dr King knew that Kennedy was moved by his now famous “Letter from a Birmingham Jail” - written just weeks before. 

To President Kennedy and many Americans Dr. King’s letter was more than than a spirited defense of civil disobedience. It was an indictment of white indifference.

As you listen to the speech, you will hear Kennedy echoing King’s “Letter”

The President rejects the idea that Black Americans should have to wait for equality. "Who among us," Kennedy asks the American people, "would then be content with counsels of patience and delay?"

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Jun 11, 2020
Letter from a Birmingham Jail: Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
53:34

This week we highlight one of the most significant and consequential calls for racial equality and social justice in American History - “Letter from a Birmingham Jail”


On Good Friday, April 12, 1963 - the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr and fellow civil rights leaders were arrested in Birmingham, Alabama as they lead a now famous Campaign of non-violent direct action to protest racial segregation and oppression in that Southern City.


In the early 1960s, Birmingham was one of the most racially segregated cities in the United States - enforced by both law and culture. Black citizens faced legal and economic oppression, and violent retribution when they attempted to even draw attention to these conditions


The Birmingham Campaign would become a pivotal moment in the Civil Rights Movement of the 1960s. President Kennedy’s Address to the Nation on Civil Rights, the August 1963 March on Washington and many other events were a direct result of this campaign and Dr. King’s now famous letter. 

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Jun 08, 2020
Presidential Words Matter: George W. Bush at the National Cathedral
11:40

This week we focus on leadership and comfort in a time of national tragedy, crisis and mourning.


On September 14th 2001 - President George W. Bush spoke at the National Cathedral in Washington at a National Day of Prayer and Remembrance Service.


Just 72 hours earlier - more than 3,000 Americans had been killed during the most lethal terrorist attack in US history. 


The country was still shut down - commercial air travel was grounded. The dead were still being counted. But the president talked of unity. The tragedy whose full toll had yet to be reckoned, could have torn the country apart, but instead it had united the American people and their leadership.


He expressed both empathy for those who lost family, friends and loved ones and a steady resolve that they shall not have died in vain.


In the interest of full disclosure - I joined President Bush’s White House staff less than three months after this speech. I was a Democrat from New York who had worked at both ABC and NBC News. Not the most likely candidate to serve in the West Wing under a Republican President from Texas. 


In the weeks, months and years that followed this speech - the President, his advisors and his Administration myself included - make some serious and consequential mistakes. 


We will spend the rest of our lives trying to rectify those errors and atone for those failings. 


But in the immediate aftermath of that national tragedy- President Bush provided leadership and resolve as well as a few things that the American people desperately needed - comfort, empathy and hope. 



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Jun 01, 2020
Presidential Words Matter: John F. Kennedy on Civil Rights
18:08

This week we highlight presidential leadership and one of the most important civil rights speeches ever delivered by a sitting American president.


By June of 1963, John F. Kennedy has been president for nearly two and a half years.


While Kennedy had long privately expressed his deep moral objections to the treatment of black people in American society and indicated support for New federal legislation. 


His public comments ranged from cautious moderate criticism to a 1950s version of “both sides-ism” but were mostly nonexistent.


In June of 1963, however the man and the moment met.


Alabama Governor George Wallace’s staged photo op definance of federal law by standing in the school house doorway had lasted less than 90 minutes. 


On June 11th 1963 two black students were peaceful enrolled at the University of Alabama under the protection of a federalized Alabama National Guard commanded by US Marshals under the direction of the Department of Justice and the Attorney General of the United States.


Kennedy’s advisors recommended and Fully expected that the president would NOT address the American people that evening. 


With a little less than 18 months until to the 1964 elections, the President’s legislative agenda and his political future depended upon the votes Southern Democrats in Congress and those of their politically unforgiving constituents. 


The President had other ideas. Kennedy saw a way to exercise moral leader on an issue where he had to that point failed. He would request Network Television airtime to address the nation on the issue of civil rights. 


The facts and statistics on racial inequality in the United States described by President Kennedy to the American people that evening had even never been acknowledged by a President before - much less spoken in such a detailed and direct language. 


In a telegram to the White House after watching the President’s remarks in Atlanta with other civil rights leaders, the Reverend Dr Martin Luther King Jr. described the address as ONE OF THE MOST ELOQUENT,

 PROFOUND,

 AND UNEQUIVOCAL PLEAS FOR JUSTICE AND FREEDOM OF ALL MEN,

 EVER MADE BY ANY PRESIDENT.


Dr King knew that Kennedy was moved by his now famous “Letter from Birmingham Jail” - written just weeks before. 


To President Kennedy and many Americans Dr. King’s letter was more than than a spirited defense of civil disobedience. It was an indictment of white indifference.


As you listen to the speech, you will hear Kennedy echoing King’s “Letter”


The President rejects the idea that Black Americans should have to wait for equality. "Who among us," Kennedy asks the American people, "would then be content with counsels of patience and delay?"

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May 25, 2020
Preview: The Daily Smile
5:59

Everyone needs a reminder about just how good people can be. On Wondery’s new series The Daily Smile, host Nikki Boyer brings you stories that will make you feel good each weekday morning. With interviews, inspiring clips, and chats with special guests and passionate friends, The Daily Smile takes you on a journey into goodness, gives you all the feels, and will leave you with a smile on your face.

Listen to the full episode: wondery.fm/dailysmilewords

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May 19, 2020
Presidential Words Matter: Ronald Reagan's Farewell Address
26:34

In January of 1989 after 8 years in office, President Ronald Reagan delivered his 34th and final Oval Office address.

His tenure was not without controversy - and there is much about Reagan and his policies for historians and commentators to rightly criticize.

But more than anything else Ronald Reagan understood the power and importance of words.

For his final presidential address Reagan wanted to end on a note of what had become his trademark - optimism.

All of his political life The Gipper had talked about America as a Shining City on a Hill. But he never really defined what he’d meant.

As he prepared to leave office - Reagan finally communicated that vision.

Pay attention to his words - in Reagan’s view America was made great by free trade and the contributions of immigrants.

“If that City had to have walls, those walls had doors and those doors were open to all who had the heart and the will to get here.”

It is a very different message than we hear from those who claim his legacy three decades later.

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May 18, 2020
ENCORE: The 2020 Political Landscape with Doug Sosnik
50:53

Katie and Joe sit down with best-selling author and political analyst Doug Sosnik. He has advised presidents, senators, governors, Fortune 100 corporations and universities for 35 years.


Doug also served as a senior advisor to President Clinton for six years as Senior Advisor for Policy and Strategy, White House Political Director and Deputy Legislative Director.


He is the co-author of New York Times bestseller Applebee’s America: How Successful Political, Business and Religious Leaders Connect with the New American Community.

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May 11, 2020
SPECIAL: A Tribute to Tim Russert
20:39

Today, on what would have been his 70th birthday, we pay tribute to the late, great Tim Russert - Moderator of Meet the Press and NBC News Washington Bureau Chief.

Unlike many in the public eye - Tim was the same guy off camera as he was on. He was tough, but fair, - always quick with a joke and above all he was forever humbled by his success and the opportunities afforded the son of a sanitation worker from South Buffalo.

“What a country?” Tim would often marvel - he lived by the words of the pious Saint Luke - “To whom much has been given, much will be required.”

Tim believed it was his responsibility as a journalist to hold our leaders accountable - regardless of party. To ask tough, but fair questions in pursuit of the truth.

A lawyer by training, a Meet the Press interview was like a public deposition. He didn’t suffer fools and he wrote his questions so that anything short of a complete and honest answer would be met with a series of increasingly pointed follow ups. When he believed a public official was shading the truth – or worse – Tim would lean across the table and remind them, with purpose: "Senator, Madame Secretary, Mr. President – Words Matter."

That is his legacy - and for those of us who want to honor him, we must try our best to continue that mission.

So today - on what would have been his 70th birthday - we honor Tim Russert by playing his 2002 Commencement Address at the University of Massachusetts Boston.

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May 07, 2020
Presidential Words Matter: FDR 1936 Democratic Convention
30:59

This week, we begin a new series, Presidential Words Matter. Since we currently have a president who doesn't seem to know or even understand the importance of words, especially when they are spoken by the president of the United States, we thought it might be helpful in a time of national crisis to remember that we have had presidents of both parties who did understand this.

These presidents have led our country through difficult times with the power and eloquence of their words.

So this week, we wanted to highlight President Franklin D. Roosevelt, who in 1936 during the Great Depression and as the clouds of war gathered over Europe, delivered one of the most important political speeches ever given by a sitting president.

The occasion was the Democratic National Convention held that year in Philadelphia four years earlier in 1932. FDR had made history by flying to Chicago and becoming the first presidential candidate to accept his party's nomination in person.

In an earlier episode of Words Matter, we discussed this important speech with Professor Harvey Kaye, who has just published a new book entitled: FDR on Democracy.

In his 1936 acceptance speech, Roosevelt used the language of the founders and decried the economic royalists who were trying to fight back against the progress of the New Deal because it threatened their power.

As you listen to his words, pay particular attention to the part where Roosevelt tells his audience they have a rendezvous with destiny.

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May 04, 2020
ENCORE: Cindi Leive - Former Editor in Chief, Glamour
32:52

Cindi Leive is the former editor-in-chief of both Glamour and Self magazines. She was the driving force behind barrier- breaking initiatives like “Glamour Women of the Year” and “The Girl Project” which supports girls’ education.


Cindi is the author and editor of numerous books including the 2018 New York Times bestseller Together We Rise, about the organizing of the Women's March.


She has interviewed heads of state, Hollywood and fashion’s biggest personalities, and iconic leaders from all walks of life. Her many awards and honors include recognition from the White House, the United Nations, and dozens of media organizations. She is currently a senior fellow at the University of Southern California’s Annenberg Center.

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Apr 27, 2020
American Scandal Preview
6:36

This week, we want you to join one of our favorite hosts, Lindsey Graham of -- American Scandal and American History Tellers -- as he previews his new six-part series, "The Harry Krishna Murders," as he explores an eastern religion with pure intentions that in the hands of its Western followers became a criminal enterprise of drug running abuse and murder. wondery.fm/wordsmatterAS


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Apr 22, 2020
ENCORE: House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff
46:06

Back in December Katie and Joe sit down with the Chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. Congressman Adam Schiff is in his 10 term representing California’s 28th Congressional District.Before that he was a Member of the California State Senate where he served as Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee. Congressman Schiff began his career as an Assistant US Attorney in the Central District of California.

Katie and Joe talk to him about the Impeachment of President Trump, what a Senate trial would look like and more.

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Apr 20, 2020
ENCORE: The Contenders with Walter Mondale
52:23

The Contenders is a special podcast series by Joe Lockhart. Given the importance of the race for the Democratic presidential nomination, we thought it important and informative to hear from those people who've actually run for president. What goes into the decision? How do you possibly get to the place of thinking you can take on the toughest job in the world? What were your biggest mistakes as a candidate? What lessons did you learn and what advice do you have for those running against Donald Trump?


Joe recently traveled to Minnesota to interview his former boss, Vice Presidential Walter Mondale. Nearly a quarter century before Sarah Palin was picked by John McCain, it was Walter Mondale who first put a woman on a national ticket when he picked Congresswoman Geraldine Ferraro in 1984.

The former Vice President reflects on that and much more.

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Apr 13, 2020
How To Save Your Soul In America - with R. Eric Thomas
41:01

Our guest today is a senior staff writer at ELLE.com where he has written the daily pop culture and politics humor column since 2016.


His opinion columns have also been published by The New York Times, among many others.


As a playwright, R. Eric Thomas won the Barrymore Award and the Dramatists Guild Lanford Wilson Award and was a finalist for the Steinberg/American Theater Critics Association New Play Award.


He is also the long-running host of The Moth Story Slams in Washington, D.C., and Philadelphia.


R. Eric Thomas' first book -- Here for It: Or How To Save Your Soul In America was published last month and is already a national best seller.

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Apr 06, 2020
Hill Women - with Cassie Chambers
26:32

Our guest this week is a writer, lawyer, speaker and an advocate. Cassie Chambers grew up in Eastern Kentucky, graduated from Yale College, the Yale School of Public Health, the London School of Economics, and Harvard Law School, where she was president of the Harvard Legal Aid Bureau, a student-run law firm that represents low-income clients.


Cassie received a Skadden Fellowship to return to Kentucky to do legal work with domestic violence survivors in rural communities.


In 2018, Cassie helped pass Jeanette’s Law, which eliminated the requirement that domestic violence survivors pay an incarcerated spouse’s legal fees in order to get a divorce.


Her new book, Hill Women: Finding Family and a Way Forward in the Appalachian Mountains, celebrates the amazingly resilient women in her family and the beloved mountain culture that helped shape her.

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Mar 30, 2020
The Contenders: Michael Dukakis
53:04

In the latest of Joe's special series - The Contenders -- the sixty fifth governor of Massachusetts from 1975 to 1979. Four years later, Michael Dukakis became the sixty seventh governor from 1983 to 1991 -- making him the longest serving chief executive in Massachusetts history. Before that, he was a member of the Massachusetts House of Representatives from 1963 to 1971. In 1988, he ran for and won the Democratic nomination for president, facing the vice president, George H.W. Bush in the general election.

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Mar 23, 2020
The Contenders: Howard Dean
47:58

In the latest of Joe's special series - The Contenders -- he interviews author, medical doctor, and from 1991 to 2003 the 79th governor of Vermont. In 2004, Howard Dean ran for the Democratic nomination for president. While he didn’t win the nomination, he started a movement and later served as the Chairman of the Democratic National Committee from 2005 to 2009. His implementation of the fifty-state strategy as head of the DNC is credited with the Democratic victories in the 2006 and 2008 elections -- with Democrats taking control of the House, the Senate and the White House.

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Mar 16, 2020
Stacey Abrams
36:39

Katie and Joe are honored to be joined this week by New York Times bestselling author, serial entrepreneur, nonprofit CEO and political leader Stacey Abrams. In 2018, after serving for eleven years in the Georgia House of Representatives, seven as Democratic Leader, Stacey Abrams became the Democratic nominee for Governor of Georgia, winning more votes than any other Democrat in the state’s history.

Leader Abrams was the first black woman to become the gubernatorial nominee for a major party in the United States, and she was the first black woman and first Georgian to deliver a Response to the State of the Union.

After witnessing the gross mismanagement of the 2018 election by the Georgia Secretary of State’s office, Leader Abrams launched Fair Fight to ensure every American has a voice in our election system.

Over the course of her career, Leader Abrams has founded multiple organizations devoted to voting rights, training and hiring young people of color, and tackling social issues at both the state and national levels.

Stacey Abrams is a lifetime member of the Council on Foreign Relations, where she serves on the Subcommittee on Diversity.

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Mar 09, 2020
The Presidency & Pandemics
36:12

Since World War 2, US presidents have had to deal with pandemics as part of their job – the Eisenhower Administration fast-tracked the polio vaccine. Gerald Ford dealt with Swine Flu, Ronald Reagan’s legacy is marred by his Administration’s inaction on AIDS in the 1980s and of course, President Obama confronted the global threat of Ebola.


And now we have the Coronavirus – this week Katie and Joe, talk about the Presidency and pandemics.

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Mar 02, 2020
The 2020 Political Landscape with Doug Sosnik
50:53

This week Katie and Joe sit down with best-selling author and political analyst Doug Sosnik. He has advised presidents, senators, governors, Fortune 100 corporations and universities for 35 years.


Doug also served as a senior advisor to President Clinton for six years as Senior Advisor for Policy and Strategy, White House Political Director and Deputy Legislative Director.


He is the co-author of New York Times bestseller Applebee’s America: How Successful Political, Business and Religious Leaders Connect with the New American Community.

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Feb 24, 2020
New Hampshire and Trouble at Justice with Dana Milbank
47:06

This week Katie and Joe sit down with award winning journalist, best-selling author and nationally syndicated columnist for the Washington Post, Dana Milbank.


Dana is the author three books on politics and has covered politics for the Post since the year 2000. Before that Dana was a senior editor at the New Republic, and before that a reporter for the Wall Street Journal

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Feb 17, 2020
The Primaries Begin with Jen Psaki
53:28

Impeachment is over and the Democratic primaries begin. This week Katie and Joe sit down with campaign veteran and former White House Communications Director under President Obama, Jen Psaki. They discuss the primaries with Jen who has worked on presidential, senate and gubernatorial campaigns in among other places – Iowa. She is also a CNN political analyst.

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Feb 10, 2020
The Impeachment Non-Trial with Elie Honig
51:17

The US Senate refuses to hear witnesses in the Impeachment Trial of Donald J. Trump. Joe and guest Elie Honig breakdown what happened and what may happen next.


Elie Honig is a former state and federal prosecutor with extensive experience leading and managing criminal trials and appeals.

As a state prosecutor in New Jersey and a federal prosecutor in the Southern District of New York, Elie Honig directed major criminal cases against street gangs drug trafficking organizations illegal firearms traffickers corrupt public officials, child predators and white-collar criminals.

Elie also serves as a Rutgers University scholar, is a CNN legal analyst and is featured on Cross Exam.  

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Feb 03, 2020
Words Matter Library: WeCrashed Preview
6:24

The Rise and Fall of WeWork is a stunning story of hope and hubris. WeWork was the poster child for a new economy. Its founders wanted to revolutionize everything about the way people lived their lives. Its charismatic founder Adam Neumann had an intoxicating vision for the company — but did it ever match the reality? Hosted by David Brown of Wondery’s hit podcast Business Wars, WeCrashed is a six-part series about the rise and fall of WeWork. It’s a story of hope and hubris, and pulls back the curtain on the lengths certain people will go to chase “unicorns.” Listen now at www.wondery.fm/wecrashedWM


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Jan 29, 2020
Impeachment Trial Continues
38:44

For only the 3rd time in American history, the President of the United States stands trial in the United States Senate for "high crimes and misdemeanors. Katie and Joe breakdown what's happened so far and what may happen next in the Impeachment Trial of President Donald Trump.

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Jan 27, 2020
Words Matter Library: Daniel Patrick Moynihan, American Visionary
34:01

The Almanac of American Politics described Daniel Patrick Moynihan as “The nation’s best thinker among politicians since Lincoln and its best politician among thinkers since Jefferson.” Before his election to the US Senate in 1976, Moynihan served in the administrations of Presidents Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon and Ford. He was ambassador to India, and U.S. representative to the United Nations, and was four times elected to the U.S. Senate from New York.

This week we are honored to add Daniel Patrick Moynihan: A Portrait in Letters of an AmericanVisionary to the Words Matter Audible Library. In this important book, distinguished journalist Steven Weisman compiles a vivid portrait of Moynihan’s life, in the senator’s own words. Moynihan's letters offer an extraordinary window into particular moments in history, from his feelings of loss at JFK’s assassination, to his passionate pleas to Nixon not to make Vietnam a Nixon war, to his frustrations over healthcare and welfare reform during the Clinton era.

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Jan 23, 2020
Senate Impeachment Trial Begins with Nina Totenberg
33:48

For only the 3rd time in American History, the Impeachment Trial of a President of the United States began last week in the United States Senate.


Legendary NPR Correspondent Nina Totenberg covered the 1999 Senate Impeachment Trial of Bill Clinton. And this week, Nina joins Katie to talk about what will be the same and what will be different in the Senate Impeachment Trial of Donald Trump.

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Jan 20, 2020
A World in Disarray with Richard Haass
37:51

Richard Haass is President of the Council on Foreign Relations. He is a veteran diplomat and the author or editor of more than a dozen books including the forthcoming “The World: A Brief Introduction

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Jan 13, 2020
Words Matter Library: Era of Ignition by Amber Tamblyn
35:10

This week we put Era of Ignition: Coming of Age in a Time of Rage and Revolution by Amber Tamblyn into the Words Matter Library. Amber is an actor, filmmaker, writer, activist and poet. Her acting credits include Joan of Arcadia, The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants, House and will be seen in Y: The Last Man,. Her written work has been featured in The Cut and the New York Times.


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Jan 09, 2020
Welcome to 2020!
17:53

Happy New Year - Welcome to 2020.


This year will be one of the most - if THE most consequential in American political history.


For the first time ever, a President of the United States runs for re-election after being impeached by the House of Representatives and facing a trial in the US Senate.


Control of both Houses of Congress, the White House and the future of the Supreme Court all hang in the balance.


And in the next few months, Democrats will choose their nominee to take on President Trump in November. But going into Iowa and New Hampshire - after nearly a year of campaigning and a half dozen debates, no clear front runner has emerged.


And now - in addition to all of that - war hangs over the Middle East after US forces assassinated Iran’s highest ranking military leader less than 48 hours into the new year.


Katie and Joe discuss that and more.

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Jan 06, 2020
Best of Words Matter Library: The Ginsburg Files
26:02

In this Best of edition of the Words Matter Library, Katie sits down with Lauren Moxley, the host of The Ginsburg Tapes Podcast -- which chronicles Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s oral arguments before the then all-male United States Supreme Court from 1972 to 1978 —before she became #Notorious RBG.


The Ginsburg Tapes allows the listener to be a fly on the wall for some of the most important cases in American jurisprudence as future Justice Ginsburg challenged laws treating men and women differently. In between the actually Supreme Court recordings, Lauren puts the cases, the law and even the Justices themselves in historical context and explains how as a lawyer, RBG really did change the World.

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Jan 02, 2020
The Professionals Pilot
46:42

This week Katie and Joe preview Joe's new series "The Professionals" where we give you the inside story of what really drives a presidential campaign. We'll break down what makes a campaign successful and why some candidates come up short. Our experts meet two important criteria - they're not actively working on a campaign now (so they can be unbiased) AND they've been involved at a senior level for multiple presidential campaigns.

In the pilot episode Jen Psaki, Paul Begala and Ron Klain take you behind the scenes of presidential debate prep.

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Dec 30, 2019
Words Matter Library: Profiles in Courage by John F. Kennedy
11:29

As the United States Senate prepares for the Impeachment Trial of President Donald J. Trump, we once again put then-Senator John F. Kennedy's Pulitzer Prize winning book into the Words Matter Library. Profiles in Courage chronicles acts of bravery and integrity by 8 United States Senators. Caroline Kennedy and the late John F. Kennedy Jr. narrate the story of leaders who defied their party and their constituents to do what they felt was right and as a result suffered severe criticism and significant losses. 


History will be watching to see if there are any modern examples of political courage left in Washington.

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Dec 26, 2019
The Pelosi Gambit
35:38

Last week the 45th President of the United States became only the 3rd Chief Executive in American History to be impeached by the House of Representatives.


This week Katie and Joe talk about what it means for President Trump, his legacy AND how long Speaker Pelosi can withhold sending the Articles of Impeachment to the US Senate.

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Dec 23, 2019
SPECIAL Rick Wilson
44:14

Rick Wilson is a political strategist, media consultant and a best-selling author based in Florida who has produced political commercials for governors, U.S. Senate candidates and super PACs.


Rick has written for the Daily Beast, Politico, the New York Daily News, Medium and he is the author of the New York Times Best Seller Everything Trump Touches Dies.. His next book, Running Against the Devil: A Plot to Save America from Trump—and Democrats from Themselves will be published on January 14, 2020.


His is also one of the Founders of  The Lincoln Project, a Super PAC that "will be dedicated to defeating President Trump and Trumpism at the ballot box and to elect those patriots who will hold the line.” 

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Dec 19, 2019
House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff
43:45

This week Katie and Joe sit down with the Chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. Congressman Adam Schiff is in his 10 term representing California’s 28th Congressional District.Before that he was a Member of the California State Senate where he served as Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee. Congressman Schiff began his career as an Assistant US Attorney in the Central District of California.

Katie and Joe talk to him about the Impeachment of President Trump, what a Senate trial may look like and more.

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Dec 16, 2019
Words Matter Library: If you cannot believe the President, who can you believe?
3:25

More than 20 years ago - in his closing argument in the Senate Impeachment Trial of President Bill Clinton, Republican House Manager Congressman Henry Hyde held up a letter from 8 year old William Preston Summers, a 3rd grader from Chase Elementary School in Chicago.


It was perhaps only compelling moment in the entire trial. 


This week, we put Congressman Henry Hyde reading third grader William Preston Summers' letter into the Words Matter Library.

 

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Dec 12, 2019
Supreme Ambition with Ruth Marcus
53:43

Katie and Joe sit down with Ruth Marcus of the Washington Post. Ruth is a journalist, political commentator and author who has written for the Post since her final year at Harvard Law School. Among other beats, She has covered campaign finance, the Justice Department, the Supreme Court and the White House. And for 15 years she has served on the Post’s Editorial Board.


Her new book Supreme Ambition: Brett Kavanaugh and the Conservative Takeover, debuted last week.

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Dec 09, 2019
Words Matter Library: Election Ride Home with Chris Higgins
39:26

This week we put Election Ride Home hosted by Chris Higgins into the Words Matter Library. Chris is a veteran journalist, a writer and a documentarian

His previous credits include The Atlantic, This American Life and Mental Floss.

Election Ride Home gives listeners a 15-20 minute update on all the day’s 2020 election news.



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Dec 05, 2019
Moving Forward with Karine Jean-Pierre
39:23

Katie and Joe sit down with political activist, organizer, analyst and author Karine Jean-Pierre. Her experience ranges from presidential campaigns to local politics to grassroots activism.


Karine is the Chief Public Affairs Officer for Moveon.org and a lecturer in international and public affairs at Columbia University. Karine is also a political analyst for NBC News and MSNBC and the author of the new book – Moving Forward: A Story of Hope, Hard Work and the Promise of America.

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Dec 02, 2019
Words Matter Library: Today Explained
29:23

This week we put Today Explained into the Words Matter Library. Sean Rameswaram is a journalist, a podcaster, a writer, producer and radio host. His previous experience includes time as a correspondent for Radiolab. He has also created and hosted radio shows for the CBC, and WNYC.

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Nov 27, 2019
Impeachment Continues with Elie Honig
50:01

Last week the House Intelligence Committee wrapped two weeks of public impeachment hearings. We heard from 12 witnesses in more than 40 hours of televised testimony.

Katie and Joe talk to former federal prosecutor Elie Honig about what happened, what it means and what happens next.

Elie is a former state and federal prosecutor with extensive experience leading and managing criminal trials and appeals.

As a state prosecutor in New Jersey and a federal prosecutor in the Southern District of New York, He directed major criminal cases against street gangs drug trafficking organizations illegal firearms traffickers corrupt public officials, child predators and white-collar criminals.

Elie also serves as a Rutgers University scholar, is a CNN legal analyst and is featured on Cross Exam.  

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Nov 25, 2019
Words Matter Library: China's Vision of Victory with Dr. Jonathan Ward
37:35

This week we add China’s Vision of Victory by Dr. Jonathan Ward to the Words Matter Library. Jonathan Ward is an author, a scholar and a strategic consultant. He speaks 5 languages, is founder of the Atlas Organization a strategic consultancy, and holds a Ph.D. from Oxford in China–India relations.




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Nov 21, 2019
The History of Impeachment with Professor Douglas Brinkley
50:06

Last week, public impeachment hearings of President Trump began in the House Intelligence Committee – and pretty much everyone who does not appear on Fox News or the Rush Limbaugh Radio Show proclaimed the proceedings to be “historic”

This week Katie and Joe discuss the history of impeachment with presidential historian Professor Douglas Brinkley.

Professor Brinkley is is a celebrated historian and the award-winning author, co-author or editor of more than 30 books, most of these works focus on American presidents or people we know because of presidents. He is the Katharine Sarnoff Brown Chair of humanities and professor of history at Rice University. He is a CNN presidential historian and a contributing editor at Vanity Fair.

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Nov 18, 2019
Words Matter Library: American History Tellers with Lindsay Graham
38:25

This week we add American History Tellers to the Words Matter Library. The Cold War, Prohibition, the Gold Rush, the Space Race. Every part of your life -the words you speak, the ideas you share- can be traced to our history, but how well do you really know the stories that made America? American History Tellers will take you to the events, the times and the people that shaped our nation. And they'll show you how our history affected them, their families and affects you today. Hosted by Lindsay Graham (not the Senator). From Wondery, the network behind Tides Of History, History Unplugged, Fall Of Rome and Dirty John.

And check out Lindsay's latest podcast -- American Elections: Wicked Game

Subscribe on Apple PodcastsSpotify or wherever you got your podcastsAmerican Elections: Wicked Game http://wondery.fm/AmericanElectionsWM

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Nov 14, 2019
Fox News & Impeachment with Gabe Sherman
47:15

Gabe Sherman sits down with Katie and Joe to talk about Fox News and the Impeachment of Donald Trump. Gabe is an award-winning journalist, best-selling author and a special correspondent for Vanity Fair. Earlier this year his book The Loudest Voice in the Room: How the Brilliant, Bombastic Roger Ailes Built Fox News – and Divided a Country, was turned into the television series Loudest Voice by ShowTime starring Russell Crowe as Roger Ailes.


Gabe's reporting on Fox News eventually lead to the termination of both Bill O’Reilly and Roger Ailes.

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Nov 11, 2019
Words Matter Library: Verify by Joelle Charbonneau
46:36

This week we put Verify by bestselling author Joelle Charbonneau into the Words Matter Library. This eerily timely, high-stakes page-turner is destined to start important conversations at this particular moment in our history.

Meri Beckley lives in a world without lies. When she looks at the peaceful Chicago streets, she feels pride in the era of unprecedented hope and prosperity over which the governor presides.

But when Meri’s mother is killed, Meri suddenly has questions that no one else seems to be asking. And when she tries to uncover her mother’s state of mind in her last weeks, she finds herself drawn into a secret world with a history she didn’t know existed.

Suddenly, Meri is faced with a choice between accepting the “truth” or embracing a world the government doesn’t want anyone to see—a world where words have the power to change the course of a country and where the wrong ones can get Meri killed.

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Nov 07, 2019
SPECIAL Impeachment 2.0 Update
42:14

Last week was a significant one for the House Impeachment Inquiry. On Thursday the House of Representatives voted 232-196 to approve rules and move forward with the impeachment inquiry into President Trump’s conduct.


The vote was mostly along party lines with all the Republicans voting against joined by two Democrats from districts Trump won in 2016.


Katie and Joe breakdown what happened and why it matters in this SPECIAL Impeachment 2.0 Update

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Nov 05, 2019
Audience of One: Donald Trump, Television, and the Fracturing of America
44:20

It is impossible to understand Donald Trump without understanding America's relationship with television. James Poniewozik is the chief television critic for The New York Times. He often focuses on the intersection between television, politics and culture. He is the author of the new book -- Audience of One: Donald Trump, Television, and the Fracturing of America



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Nov 04, 2019
Words Matter Library: Make America Radical Again
48:17

This week we add Take Hold of Our History: Make America Radical Again  by Professor Harvey J. Kaye to the Words Matter Library.

Harvey J. Kaye is the Ben and Joyce Rosenberg Professor of Democracy and Justice Studies and Director of the Center for History and Social Change at the University of Wisconsin-Green Bay.

An award-winning author and writer, he has written 9 books – including:

Thomas Paine and the Promise of America (2005)

The Fight for the Four Freedoms: What Made FDR and the Greatest Generation Truly Great (2015)

 “Why Do Ruling Classes Fear History?” and Other Questions (1996)

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Oct 31, 2019
LIVE from Politicon - Governor Bill Weld
51:57

A special LIVE edition from Politicon – the annual bipartisan “Unconventional Political Convention” held this year in Nashville, Tennessee.

Katie and Joe welcome former Massachusetts Governor Bill Weld to Words Matter.

Governor Weld began his career as staff member and attorney for the House Judiciary Committee during Watergate.

He was later the US Attorney for the District of Massachusetts and Assistant Attorney General of the United States for the Criminal Division from 1986 to 1988 under President Ronald Reagan.

In 2016 he was the Libertarian Party Candidate for Vice President.

And in April of this year, Governor Weld announced he would challenge President Trump for the 2020 Republican Presidential Nomination.

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Oct 28, 2019
SPECIAL: Impeachment Update
25:24

It's been one month since Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced the start of the House Impeachment Inquiry. A lot has happened -- but has anything change? Katie and Joe discuss whether President Trump is any close to impeachment today than he was 4 weeks ago on this special Words Matter Impeachment Update.

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Oct 22, 2019
The Trump Doctrine with Max Boot
40:36

Joe sits down with author, historian and foreign policy analyst Max Boot to talk about Syria, Ukraine and the Trump Doctrine.

Max is the Jeane Kirkpatrick Senior Fellow in National Security Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations a columnist for The Washington Post and a global affairs analyst for CNN. Max is also the author of six books including The Corrosion of Conservatism: Why I Left the Right.

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Oct 21, 2019
Words Matter Library: Cokie Roberts Tribute
23:25

Last Month, we lost best-selling author, iconic reporter and journalistic pioneer Mary Martha Corinne Morrison Claiborne Roberts, "Cokie" to her family, friends, colleagues and the tens of millions of Americans who read her column or watched and listened to her every week on NPR and ABC News.


Originally from New Orleans, Louisiana, she learned politics at an early age. Both her father and her mother served for decades in the United States Congress. An award winning political reporter and analyst, Cokie Roberts, along with Eleanor Clift, NPR's Linda Wertheimer and Nina Totenberg transformed the male dominated world of Washington political journalism.


An Emmy Award winner, Cokie Roberts also earned other honors, including the Edward R. Murrow Award, the Everett McKinley Dirksen Award for coverage of Congress and the Walter Cronkite Award for Excellence in Journalism. In 2000, she was inducted into the Broadcasting and Cable Hall of Fame.


With all the impeachment news weren’t able to properly pay tribute to her life and legacy.


And so, this week, to honor groundbreaking journalist Cokie Roberts, we put her 2013 commencement address at LSU into the Words Matter Library.

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Oct 17, 2019
Next Big Idea Preview
8:30

This week Katie and Joe preview a new podcast by Wondery - The Next Big Idea. Ideas are coming at you every day from all directions. Where do you even start? Hosted by Rufus Griscom, and featuring thought-leaders Malcolm Gladwell, Susan Cain, Adam Grant, and Daniel Pink, THE NEXT BIG IDEA brings you the most groundbreaking ideas that have the power to change the way you live, work, and think. Each episode dives deep into one big idea through immersive storytelling, narration and curator interviews with the most interesting authors at work today.

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Oct 15, 2019
Impeachment & the Press with Margaret Sullivan
45:38

As the House moves forward with the impeachment inquiry of President Trump, how the press covers it could determine the outcome. This week, Katie and Joe sit down with Margaret Sullivan to talk about impeachment and the press.


Margaret Sullivan is the media columnist for The Washington Post and before that Margaret served as the fifth public editor of The New York Times and was the first woman to hold that position. Margaret is a native of Lackawanna, New York and began her career as a summer intern at the Buffalo News becoming the first woman editor there and managing editor in the hundred and thirty nine year history of that storied newspaper.

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Oct 14, 2019
Words Matter Library: The Moth -- Impeachment Day
17:08

This week we put Joe Lockhart's performance at The Moth into the Words Matter Library

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Oct 10, 2019
American Elections: Wicked Game Preview
7:36

This week we preview a great new podcast - American Elections: Wicked Game from Wondery.

On Tuesday, November 3rd, 2020, the citizens of the United States will cast ballots to elect their president, and it feels like the country couldn’t be more divided.

America will have to endure another 58 weeks of shouting, outrage, and the worst sort of political rancor. How has it come to this?

It turns out, it’s almost always been this way. And the 58 weeks we have remaining is just enough time to review the entire history of presidential elections, from the unanimous and inevitable election of George Washington in 1789, to Donald Trump’s surprise electoral victory in 2016

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Oct 08, 2019
High Crimes & Misdemeanors with Elie Honig
55:14

Elie Honig joins Joe this week to talk about the latest in the House Impeachment Inquiry against President Trump -- he explains what crimes may have been committed in the most recent Trump scandal.

Elie is a former state and federal prosecutor with extensive experience leading and managing criminal trials and appeals.

As a state prosecutor in New Jersey and a federal prosecutor in the Southern District of New York, Elie directed major criminal cases against street gangs drug trafficking organizations illegal firearms traffickers corrupt public officials, child predators and white-collar criminals.

Ellie also serves as a Rutgers University scholar, is a CNN legal analyst and is featured on Cross Exam. #CrossExam

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Oct 07, 2019
Words Matter Library: The Whistleblower Complaint
30:35

A whistleblower complaint filed by an intelligence officer about President Trump’s interactions with the leader of Ukraine could change the course of presidential history.


This week we put the audio version of this important document into the Words Matter Library.

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Oct 03, 2019
The First Steps of Impeachment with Carrie Cordero
42:45

The House takes the first steps toward impeachment -- Carrie Cordero joins Katie and Joe to explain how we got here and what may happen next.


Carrie is the Robert M. Gates Senior Fellow and General Counsel at the Center for a New American Security. Carrie is also an adjunct professor of law at Georgetown University Law Center, a CNN legal analyst, and a contributing editor of Lawfare. Carrie has served in numerous senior positions at the Department of Justice and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence: including as Counsel to the Assistant Attorney General for National Security; Senior Associate General Counsel at the Office of the Director of National Intelligence; and Attorney Advisor at the U.S. Department of Justice, where she handled critical counterterrorism and counterintelligence investigations

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Sep 30, 2019
SPECIAL - Impeachment Begins
26:27

History is unfolding in real time.


The President of the United States is accused of using the power of his office to extort a foreign government into finding dirt or manufacturing dirt on his leading political rival in the 2020 presidential election.


This week, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi took a step she had been reluctant to take for months and announced that the House will begin formal impeachment proceedings into the conduct of the President of the United States.


Katie and Joe will talk about what happened, what it means and what may happen next.

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Sep 25, 2019
ICYMI: Barbara Jordan on Impeachment
15:46

On July 25th 1974 Congresswoman Barbara Jordan delivered a televised opening statement as the House Judiciary Committee began consideration of articles of impeachment against President Richard Nixon. It is regarded by historians as one of the greatest speeches in all of American history. Congresswoman Jordan offered a passionate and powerful defense of the United States Constitution. A document, she noted, did not include people like her when it was written and completed in 1787.

Congresswoman Jordan also provided thoughtful and well documented explanations of our system of checks and balances which were designed to stop any politician from abusing their power. She stuck to the facts and the law and noted the seriousness and the solemn duty she and her fellow members were about to undertake. As she quoted extensively from the founders Congresswoman Jordan explained that those who had drafted and ratified the Constitution anticipated actions like Nixon's and had created the check of impeachment to guard against such executive overreach and abuse of office.



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Sep 24, 2019
Politico's Anna Palmer & Jake Sherman
48:05

Our guests this week are senior Washington correspondents for POLITICO and co-authors of POLITICO’s Playbook, the most important indispensable morning newsletter covering Washington and politics.

Anna Palmer and Jake Sherman are also the co-authors of New York Times and national best seller, The Hill to Die On: The Battle for Congress and the Future of Trump's America.

In addition to Playbook, Anna is also editorial director of Women Rule, a POLITICO platform that is dedicated to expanding leadership opportunities for women at all stages of their career.

Since 2009, Jake has chronicled all of the major legislative battles on Capitol Hill, and is also a political contributor to NBC News and MSNBC

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Sep 23, 2019
Words Matter Library: Eleanor Roosevelt at the United Nations
7:02

This week, the 74th session of the General Assembly of the United Nations began in New York.


To mark the occasion, we wanted to pay tribute to one of the most important and meaningful accomplishments of that body – the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.


Adopted at the 3rd UN General Assembly held in Paris –this document -- As Ken Burns notes in The Roosevelts --was history’s first attempt at laying out the principles under which all nations should behave towards their own citizens and as well as towards each other.


It was largely the work of one delegate from the United States, former First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt. 


This week we put Eleanor Roosevelt’s speech on the Universal Declaration of Human Rights into the Words Matter Library.

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Sep 19, 2019
The View From Capitol Hill
50:53

This week Katie and Joe take a look at what's happening on Capitol Hill with Julie Hirschfeld Davis the new congressional editor for the The New York Times. Julie has covered politics from Washington for two decades, writing on Congress, three presidential campaigns and three presidents. 


She is a CNN political analyst and next month Julie and Mike Shear have a new book out, Border Wars: Inside Trump’s Assault On Immigration, the inside story of how Trump and his team seized on immigration as a defining political issue and have redefined how America thinks about immigration and immigrants.

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Sep 16, 2019
Words Matter Library: The Vagina Bible
33:24

She's is a medical doctor on a mission to create a better medical Internet. Dr. Jen Gunter has been called "Twitter's Resident Gynecologist" and "The Internet's OB/GYN". She's a fierce advocate for women's health, a writer for The New York Times, USA Today, and Self, and the host Jensplaining, Dr. Jen joins us to talk about her Best Selling new book, The Vagina Bible, and for straight talk on women's health.

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Sep 12, 2019
Former Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson
52:29

This week Joe sits down with former Secretary of Homeland Security Jeh Johnson about the Anniversary of 9/11, immigration, 2020 election security and more.


Jeh Johnson was the 4th Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security from December 2013 until January of 2017. Before that he was an Assistant US Attorney in the Southern District of New York. From 1998 until 2001, he was General Counsel of the Air Force and from February 2009 until December 2012 he was General Counsel of the Department of Defense under Secretary Robert Gates.

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Sep 09, 2019
Summer Wrap 2019
18:23

For those of you who took the summer off from 24/7 news, Katie and Joe will recap the highlights and the lowlights. From Donald Trump to the race for the Democratic nomination, to the battle for the US Senate, we'll catch you up on the latest.

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Sep 05, 2019
SPECIAL The Contenders with Walter Mondale
50:03

The Contenders is a special podcast series by Joe Lockhart. Given the importance of the race for the Democratic presidential nomination, we thought it important and informative to hear from those people who've actually run for president. What goes into the decision? How do you possibly get to the place of thinking you can take on the toughest job in the world? What were your biggest mistakes as a candidate? What lessons did you learn and what advice do you have for those running against Donald Trump?


Joe recently traveled to Minnesota to interview his former boss, Vice Presidential Walter Mondale. Nearly a quarter century before Sarah Palin was picked by John McCain, it was Walter Mondale who first put a woman on a national ticket when he picked Congresswoman Geraldine Ferraro in 1984.

The former Vice President reflects on that and much more.

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Sep 02, 2019
Words Matter Library: 56th Anniversary of the March on Washington
10:40

It was one of the defining moments of the civil rights movement and one of the most iconic speeches in American history.

56 years ago this week The March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom, or the March on Washington, was held in the Nation’s Capital on Wednesday, August 28, 1963. 


More than 250,000 people turned out to advocate for the civil and economic rights of black Americans. At was here, standing in front of the Lincoln Memorial, that the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. delivered his historic "I Have a Dream" speech.


Dr. King considered the words in Declaration of Independence and the Constitution as a “scared obligation” -- he believed that the Founders and their descendants should be held accountable. 


For Dr. King and millions of others – America would only become great when this dream was fully realized and this country finally lived up to its founding words. 


This week we put Martin Luther King Jr.'s "I Have a Dream" speech into the Words Matter Library

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Aug 29, 2019
ICYMI - How Russian Hackers & Trolls Helped Elect a President
48:33

In case you missed this important episode -- Katie and Joe sat down with Professor Kathleen Hall Jamison author of Cyberwar: How Russian Hackers and Trolls Helped Elect a President Professor Jamieson is the Elizabeth Ware Packard Professor of Communication at the University of Pennsylvania’s Annenberg School for Communication, the Director of the Annenberg Public Policy Center, and Program Director of the Annenberg Retreat at Sunnylands.


Professor Jamieson details exactly how and why the Russians cyberwar tipped the election in favor of Donald Trump.

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Aug 26, 2019
Words Matter Library: Battle for the Marble Palace
50:20

Battle for the Marble Palace – Abe Fortas, Earl Warren, Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon and the Forging of the Modern Supreme Court


Author Michael Bobelian is a contributor to Forbes where he writes on the Supreme Court, white collar crime and politics.

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Aug 22, 2019
Presidential Historian Douglas Brinkley
46:51

Our guest this week is a celebrated historian and the award-winning author, co-author or editor of more than 30 books. Most of these works are focused on American presidents or people we know because of presidents.


Douglas Brinkley is the Katherine Tsanoff Brown Chair in Humanities and Professor of History at Rice University, a CNN Presidential Historian, and a contributing editor at Vanity Fair.  


Katie and Joe talk to Professor Brinkley about the power and consequences of a president's words.

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Aug 19, 2019
Final Word: Toni Morrison
4:18

Last week we lost one of the most influential and celebrated novelists in American literary history Toni Morrison. A novelist, essayist and Princeton Professor, Morrison wrote nine major novels -- all of which earned extensive critical acclaim. 


Among dozens of other awards and achievements, she won both a Pulitzer Prize and American Book Award in 1988 for her novel Beloved. And in 1993, Toni Morrison became the first black woman of any nationality to win a Nobel Prize.


The citation for her award in literature declared Morrison to be an author “who in novels characterized by visionary force and poetic import, gives life to an essential aspect of American reality.” 


In 2012, Toni Morrison was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by President Barack Obama.


In commencement address at Rutgers University in 2011, Toni Morrison encouraged graduates to seek a meaningful life -- something she herself had certainly achieved. 

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Aug 15, 2019
The Threat of White Nationalist Terrorism
42:24

Is the federal government doing enough to fight domestic terrorism? This week we talk to one former senior law enforcement official who says no. For nearly two decades, Daryl Johnson was senior domestic terrorism analyst at the Department of Homeland Security and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. Back in 2009 he wrote a DHS Report on “Rightwing Extremism” that was widely circulated in the law enforcement community and was leaked to the press.


Instead of taking action, Republicans on Capitol Hill attacked his findings.


Johnson explains how and why Donald Trump's election changed the pattern of extreme white nationalists and what can be done about it.

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Aug 12, 2019
ICYMI: Shannon Watts "Fight Like a Mother"
28:36

Shannon Watts is the author of Fight like a Mother – How a Grassroots Movement took on the Gun Lobby and Why Women will Change the World.


Until December of 2012 Shannon Watts was a stay-at-home mother of five and former communications executive.


The day after the Sandy Hook tragedy, Shannon Watts started a Facebook group with the message that all Americans can and should do more to reduce gun violence.


That online conversation turned into a grassroots movement -- Moms Demand Action which now has a chapter in every state and is part of Everytown for Gun Safety, the largest gun violence prevention organization in the country with nearly 6 million members.


She is also an active board member of Emerge America, one of the leading organizations for recruiting and training women to run for office.

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Aug 08, 2019
Can Racism Win in 2020?
49:05

Over the last few weeks, Donald Trump has left no doubt that he is a racist. He has also made it clear -- race will be perhaps THE biggest issue in 2020. 


The question is: Can racism win?


This week Katie and Joe talk to Keith Boykin. Keith is a CNN political commentator, New York Times best-selling author, and a former White House aide to President Bill Clinton. Keith teaches at the Institute for Research in African-American Studies at Columbia University in New York and previously taught at American University in Washington, D.C. He is a co-founder and first board president of the National Black Justice Coalition.

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Aug 05, 2019
Words Matter Library: The Ginsburg Tapes
24:26

This week we sit down with Lauren Moxley, the host of The Ginsburg Tapes Podcast -- which chronicles Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s oral arguments before the then all-male United States Supreme Court from 1972 to 1978 —before she became #Notorious RBG.


The Ginsburg Tapes allows the listener to be a fly on the wall for some of the most important cases in American jurisprudence as future Justice Ginsburg challenged laws treating men and women differently. In between the actually Supreme Court recordings, Lauren puts the cases, the law and even the Justices themselves in historical context and explains how as a lawyer, RBG really did change the World.

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Aug 01, 2019
The Russia Attack and the FBI with James Baker
1:01:08

Few know more about the origins of the FBI's Russia investigation than our guest this week, former Justice Department and FBI senior official James A. Baker. 


From 2014 to 2017 Mr. Baker was general counsel of the FBI and was involved in the initial and some of the most important aspects of the investigation into Russia's attack on the 2016 presidential election. 


We talk to Jim Baker about that, Robert Mueller's testimony and if our government is doing enough to ensure that the 2020 election is free from foreign influence.

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Jul 29, 2019
Special: ICYMI - Mueller Preview with Jeremy Bash
30:34

As Special Counsel Robert Mueller prepares to testify in front of Congress the week, Katie and Joe previewed his testimony with National Security expert Jeremy Bash in last week's episode.


Some things are worth repeating. So in case you missed this important preview, here it is again.


From 2009 to 2011, Jeremy served as Chief of Staff at the CIA under Director Leon Panetta and from 2011-2013 as Chief of Staff at the Department of Defense under then Secretary Panetta.


A graduate of Georgetown and Harvard Law School Jeremy was the policy director for national security issues 2000 Gore-Lieberman Campaign and also served as the Chief Minority Counsel for the House Intelligence Committee under Ranking Member Congresswoman Jane Harman.

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Jul 23, 2019
Race and Immigration in Trump's America
53:08

Katie and Joe talk to two journalists to go beyond the tweets and find out what's really going on race and immigration in Donald Trump's America.


Eugene Scott covers identity politics for the Washington Post. He joined the Post from CNN Politics, where he covered the 2016 presidential election and was the senior reporter on the website’s breaking news team. He’s a regular on-air contributor, providing analysis on MSNBC, CNN, CBS and NPR. Eugene is a graduate of the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill and Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government.


Molly O’Toole is an immigration reporter for the Los Angeles Times based here in Washington. Previously, she was a senior reporter at Foreign Policy covering the 2016 election and Trump administration. Molly has covered immigration and security from Mexico, Central America, West Africa, the Middle East, the Gulf, and South Asia.

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Jul 22, 2019
Final Word: Barbara Jordan on Impeachment
15:46

Barbara Jordan was a lawyer educator politician and a leader of the civil rights movement a Democrat and Houston native. Jordan was the first African-American elected to the Texas Senate after Reconstruction and the first southern African-American woman elected to the United States House of Representatives.


On July 25th 1974 Congresswoman Jordan delivered a televised opening statement as the House Judiciary Committee began consideration of articles of impeachment against President Richard Nixon. It is regarded by historians as one of the greatest speeches in all of American history. Congresswoman Jordan offered a passionate and powerful defense of the United States Constitution. A document, she noted, did not include people like her when it was written and completed in 1787.


Congresswoman Jordan also provided thoughtful and well documented explanations of our system of checks and balances which were designed to stop any politician from abusing their power. She stuck to the facts and the law and noted the seriousness and the solemn duty she and her fellow members were about to undertake. As she quoted extensively from the founders Congresswoman Jordan explained that those who had drafted and ratified the Constitution anticipated actions like Nixon's and had created the check of impeachment to guard against such executive overreach and abuse of office. So this week we give Congresswoman Barbara Jordan the Final Word.

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Jul 18, 2019
Mueller Testimony Preview with Jeremy Bash
41:46

Special Counsel Robert Mueller is scheduled to testify in front of Congress next week. Katie and Joe preview his testimony with National Security expert Jeremy Bash.


From 2009 to 2011, Jeremy served as Chief of Staff at the CIA under Director Leon Panetta and from 2011-2013 as Chief of Staff at the Department of Defense under then Secretary Panetta.


A graduate of Georgetown and Harvard Law School Jeremy was the policy director for national security issues 2000 Gore-Lieberman Campaign and also served as the Chief Minority Counsel for the House Intelligence Committee under Ranking Member Congresswoman Jane Harman.

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Jul 15, 2019
Words Matter Library: Four Friends by William D. Cohan
53:36

William D. Cohan is a special correspondent for Vanity Fair and is one of the most meticulous and intrepid journalists working today – a truly great reporter covering the intersection between Wall Street and Washington.


Bill has also written for The Financial Times, The New York Times, Bloomberg BusinessWeek, The Atlantic, The Nation, Fortune, and Politico.


In addition, Bill is the author of: The Last Tycoons: The Secret History of Lazard Frères & Co., House of Cards: A Tale of Hubris and Wretched Excess on Wall Street; about the last days of Bear Stearns, Wall Street Money and Power: How Goldman Sachs Came to Rule the World; The Price of Silence: the Duke Lacrosse Scandal; And Why Wall Street Matters.



Bill joins us today to talk his latest book – Four Friends: Promising Lives Cut Short

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Jul 11, 2019
The Latest from Trumpistan
29:47

This week Katie and Joe review the Trump Family's Excellent Adventure: Part II - Ivanka Trump's prominent role at the G20 and the photo-op diplomacy in North Korea. They also discuss how Donald Trump tried to turn a national celebration into a celebration of himself.


And last week Gold Star parent Khzir Khan welcomed new citizens to this country as he delivered the keynote address in Charlottesville Virginia at Monticello’s annual Independence Day Celebration and Naturalization Ceremony. Khan and his wife Ghazala moved to the United States in 1980 and became citizens six years later, in 2004. Their son U.S. Army Captain Humayun Khan was killed while serving in Iraq. This week we give proud American and Gold Star parent Khzir Khan the Final Word.

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Jul 08, 2019
SPECIAL The Declaration of Independence - Read by John F. Kennedy
12:20

On July 4th we celebrate the birth of the American Experiment. The Declaration of Independence -- written in the Spring of 1776 by a 33 year old Thomas Jefferson -- is America’s mission statement. And like all mission statements, the words represented not what we were, but what we aspired to be. In fact, the author himself was a gifted writer, but a deeply flawed person who – like his country -- did not embody the ideas and ideal of that document.


For more than two hundred and forty years, the story of America has been the struggle between those who want to move us close to the words of our mission statement – and those who want to stop them.


It is often forgotten that the Declaration itself was meant to be spoken. 


In 2004 the John F. Kennedy Presidential Library released a previously unknown 1957 recording of then-Senator Kennedy reading the Declaration of Independence in New York on July 4th.


So this week to honor Independence Day -- And to remind ourselves that as a country must continue the struggle to turn America’s founding words into reality – we give John F. Kennedy’s reading of the Declaration of Independence the final word.

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Jul 04, 2019
SPECIAL Democratic Debate Wrap-up
16:57

Last week the Democrats held their first debates in Miami -- 20 candidates over 2 nights. Now that the dust has settled a bit Katie gets Joe's take on what happened and what – if anything has changed in the race for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination as a result.


Katie and Joe go through the candidates and talk about who broke out and which ones aren't going anywhere.






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Jul 02, 2019
Cindi Leive - Former Editor in Chief, Glamour
30:32

Cindi Leive is the former editor-in-chief of both Glamour and Self magazines. She was the driving force behind barrier- breaking initiatives like “Glamour Women of the Year” and “The Girl Project” which supports girls’ education.


Cindi is the author and editor of numerous books including the 2018 New York Times bestseller Together We Rise, about the organizing of the Women's March.


She has interviewed heads of state, Hollywood and fashion’s biggest personalities, and iconic leaders from all walks of life. Her many awards and honors include recognition from the White House, the United Nations, and dozens of media organizations. She is currently a senior fellow at the University of Southern California’s Annenberg Center.

 

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Jul 01, 2019
SPECIAL: Democratic Debate Preview
31:38

Welcome to a Special Edition of Words Matter – Joe previews the first Democratic debates held this week on MSNBC in Miami. 20 candidates, 5 moderators, 4 hours total.


The Moderators will be Lester Holt, Savannah Guthrie, Chuck Todd, Rachel Maddow and José Díaz-Balart. 


The first group of 10 appearing on Wednesday:

·      Sen. Cory Booker of New Jersey

·      Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts

·      Former Rep. Beto O'Rourke of Texas

·      Sen. Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota

·      Former Rep. John Delaney of Maryland

·      Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii

·      Former Housing Secretary Julián Castro

·      Rep. Tim Ryan of Ohio

·      New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio

·      Washington Gov. Jay Inslee


The second group of 10 appearing on Thursday:

·      Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont

·      Sen. Kamala Harris of California

·      Former Vice President Joe Biden

·      Mayor Pete Buttigieg of South Bend, Indiana

·      Sen. Michael Bennet of Colorado

·      Author Marianne Williamson

·      Rep. Eric Swalwell of California

·      Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand of New York

·      Entrepreneur Andrew Yang

·      Gov. John Hickenlooper of Colorado.


To qualify, candidates had to receive more than 65,000 individual donations — including from 200 unique donors per state in at least 20 states  or at least 1 percent in three polls approved by the Democratic National Committee. More than a dozen candidates crossed both thresholds, with at least 20 hitting at least one of them.

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Jun 26, 2019
Peter Baker - New York Times Chief White House Correspondent
55:08

This week Katie and Joe sit down with award winning author and the Chief White House Correspondent for the New York Times, Peter Baker.


Peter has covered 4 presidents as a reporter – Presidents Trump and Obama for the New York Times and George W. Bush and Bill Clinton with the Washington Post.


He is also the author of 5 books including Obama: The Call of History, Days of Fire: Bush and Cheney in the White House and Inside the Impeachment and Trial of William Jefferson Clinton 

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Jun 24, 2019
SPECIAL: The Legacy of Sarah Sanders
17:47

Katie and Joe discuss the legacy of outgoing White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders. Joe explains how damaging Sanders decision to end the White House press briefings has been and what is needed from the next Press Secretary to repair that damage.

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Jun 20, 2019
The Changing Media Landscape - Margaret Sullivan
37:58

Would Congressional impeachment hearings have the same impact as they did during Watergate? Washington Post media critic Margaret Sullivan talks to Katie and Joe about how the media landscape has changed and how it is far more difficult to have an impact with voters and the American people.



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Jun 17, 2019
Words Matter Library: Shannon Watts
28:36

Shannon Watts is the author of Fight like a Mother – How a Grassroots Movement took on the Gun Lobby and Why Women will Change the World.


Until December of 2012 Shannon Watts was a stay-at-home mother of five and former communications executive.


The day after the Sandy Hook tragedy, Shannon Watts started a Facebook group with the message that all Americans can and should do more to reduce gun violence.


That online conversation turned into a grassroots movement -- Moms Demand Action which now has a chapter in every state and is part of Everytown for Gun Safety, the largest gun violence prevention organization in the country with nearly 6 million members.


She is also an active board member of Emerge America, one of the leading organizations for recruiting and training women to run for office.

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Jun 13, 2019
Trump Family's Excellent Adventure 2019 World Tour
44:06

This week we talk to Joe about the Trump Family's Excellent Adventure 2019 Taxpayer Funded World Tour. It started Memorial Day weekend in Japan. There was a brief stop back home to threaten Mexico. Then off to Europe to offend the British over to Ireland to make a few bucks. And then it was on to France to use one of the U.S. military's most hallowed burial grounds as a prop and a backdrop for a Fox News interview.


Joe will explain what happened and why it matters.

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Jun 10, 2019
Special Final Word: 75th Anniversary of D-Day
3:43

75 years ago this week -- on June 6, 1944 soldiers, sailors, and airmen of the Allied Expeditionary Force undertook the largest amphibious invasion in military history.


More than 150,000 U.S., British and Canadian troops, landed on the heavily fortified beaches of Normandy to liberate France and the Continent from 4 years of brutal Nazi Occupation.


As the operation began, Armed Forces Radio broadcast a message to the troops from the Supreme Allied Commander and future President, General Dwight D. Eisenhower.


General Eisenhower knew that many under his command would not survive the landing – and more than 4,000 people were lost that day.


But as he sent his troops into battle, General Eisenhower expressed confidence in their courage – and told them that the righteousness of their great and noble cause would eventually lead to victory over the forces of fascism, tyranny and oppression.


So to commemorate the 75th anniversary of D-Day we give Supreme Allied Commander, General Dwight D. Eisenhower the final word.

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Jun 05, 2019
Cyberwar - How Russian Hackers & Trolls Helped Elect a President
1:00:04

When Special Counsel Robert Mueller spoke after his nearly two year investigation, he mentioned the Russia attack on our electoral system to start and end his remarks. Katie and Joe sit down with Professor Kathleen Hall Jamison author of Cyberwar: How Russian Hackers and Trolls Helped Elect a President Professor Jamieson is the Elizabeth Ware Packard Professor of Communication at the University of Pennsylvania’s Annenberg School for Communication, the Director of the Annenberg Public Policy Center, and Program Director of the Annenberg Retreat at Sunnylands.


Professor Jamieson details exactly how and why the Russians cyberwar tipped the election in favor of Donald Trump.

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Jun 03, 2019
Special Preview: Cyberwar - Russian Hackers & the 2016 Election
12:10

Bob Mueller speaks -- Katie and Joe sit down with Professor Kathleen Hall Jamison author of Cyberwar: How Russian Hackers and Trolls Helped Elect a President Professor Jamieson is the Elizabeth Ware Packard Professor of Communication at the University of Pennsylvania’s Annenberg School for Communication, the Director of the Annenberg Public Policy Center, and Program Director of the Annenberg Retreat at Sunnylands. Professor Jamieson explains how and why the Russians tipped the election in favor of Donald Trump.

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May 29, 2019
Contempt of Congress (with Anne Milgram)
41:07

Donald Trump is 0-2 in his battle to stonewall Congress. Anne Milgram joins Joe and Katie to explain why it might get a whole lot worse for the Trump Administration. Anne began her career as an assistant district attorney in the legendary Manhattan District Attorney’s office. In 2001, she went to work in the criminal section of the United States Department of Justice's civil rights division, where she rose to become the lead federal prosecutor in the nation for human trafficking crimes.


During her time at DOJ, Anne was awarded the Department of Justice Special Commendation for Outstanding Service and the Director’s Award.

From 2007 to 2010 Anne served as the 57th Attorney General of New Jersey from 2007 to 2010

She currently serves as a law professor and distinguished scholar in residence at New York University School of Law and is the co-host of the CAFE Insider podcast with Preet Bharara.

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May 27, 2019
Special Final Word: 65th Anniversary of Brown vs. Board of Education
6:22

Last week was the 65th Anniversary of the Supreme Court decision in Brown v. Board of Education. This week the final word goes to the woman behind the case. Linda Brown was in the third grade when her father Oliver tried to enroll her in Sumner Elementary School in Topeka Kansas. Oliver and his daughter Linda were denied admission to the school that day. The year was 1950. Sumner was an all-white school. And Linda attended the school for black children across town. Separate but equal ruled the day in America. The moment Linda was turned away, it started a series of events that toppled the idea of separate but equal and led her all the way to the steps of the Supreme Court of the United States. Linda's father was the named plaintiff in the landmark case Brown v. Board of Education.


This week, we give education pioneer and civil rights icon Linda Brown, the final word.

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May 23, 2019
How Dangerous is Donald Trump? (with Tony Schwartz)
56:30

He is the REAL author of The Art of the Deal -- Tony Schwartz joins Joe for an in-depth interview about how dangerous Tony thinks Donald Trump is as Commander-n-Chief. And Tony tells Joe the one thing he thinks Trump may leave the White House to avoid.


And don't miss Joe's Shadow White House Briefing weekdays on Twitter until @PressSec decides to brief the White House Press Corps.

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May 20, 2019
Shadow White House Press Briefing
41:21

It has been more than two months since White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders has briefed the White House Press Corps. But journalists and the American have questions and those questions need to be answered. . . .and so former White House Press Secretary Joe Lockhart is stepping up. Joe explain why he will be hosting a daily Shadow White House Press Briefing and how you can ask him questions on Twitter.

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May 16, 2019
BONUS: Shadow White House Briefing (Preview)
4:56

It has been more than two months since White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders has briefed the White House Press Corps. But journalists and the American have questions and those questions need to be answered. . . .and so former White House Press Secretary Joe Lockhart is stepping up. Joe explain why he will be hosting a daily Shadow White House Press Briefing and how you can ask him questions on Twitter.


Full Episode Available tomorrow

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May 15, 2019
Asymmetrical Constitutional Warfare (with Ron Klain)
1:00:18

This week, Joe talks to Washington wiseman Ron Klain about the Trump Administration and their Republican allies on Capitol Hill are now waging asymmetrical constitutional warfare.


Ron is a distinguished attorney and policy maker who began his career as a Supreme Court clerk for Justice Bryon White. Ron has served in senior positions at the White House, the Department of Justice and on Capitol Hill. He is a veteran of 7 – yes SEVEN presidential campaigns. And in October 2014, he was appointed by President Obama to serve as the United States Ebola response coordinator.

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May 13, 2019
SPECIAL: A Nation in (Constitutional) Crisis
57:00

This week, Speaker Nancy Pelosi said what many have thought for weeks, months and even years: the United States government is in a constitutional crisis.


Former federal prosecutor Mimi Rocah explains to Joe exactly why.


Mimi is Pace Law's Distinguished Fellow in Criminal Justice and a Legal Analyst for MSNBC and NBC News. From February 2001 until October 2017, Mimi was an Assistant United States Attorney in the Southern District of New York.  As an AUSA, Mimi successfully prosecuted and tried numerous cases including several high-profile Organized Crime cases. During her career in SDNY, Mimi held a number of leadership positions including, Chief of the Organized Crime and Racketeering Unit, as well as Chief of the General Crimes and Narcotics Units for the SDNY.

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May 09, 2019
Preview: Mimi Rocah-Constitutional Crisis
1:24

Joe interviews Mimi Rocah and they discuss whether or not we have reached the point of a Constitutional Crisis. The full interview drops on Thursday.


Mimi Rocah is Pace Law's Distinguished Fellow in Criminal Justice and a Legal Analyst for MSNBC and NBC News. From February 2001 until October 2017, Mimi was an Assistant United States Attorney in the Southern District of New York.  As an AUSA, Mimi successfully prosecuted and tried numerous cases including several high-profile Organized Crime cases. During her career in SDNY, Mimi held a number of leadership positions including, Chief of the Organized Crime and Racketeering Unit, as well as Chief of the General Crimes and Narcotics Units for the SDNY.

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May 09, 2019
Mark Leibovich
51:13

Katie and Joe talk with award winning journalist and best-selling author, Mark Leibovich about Washington in the Age of Trump, Impeachment and the NFL. Mark is the chief national correspondent for The New York Times Magazine. Among other books, Mark is the author of the blockbuster best seller This Town Two Parties and a Funeral-Plus, Plenty of Valet Parking!-in America's Gilded Capital as well as Big Game: The NFL in Dangerous Times

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May 06, 2019
Words Matter Library: Max Boot - Why I Left the Right
47:55

This week we put The Corrosion of Conservatism: Why I Left the Right, by Max Boot into the Words Matter Library. Washington Post Columnist Max Boot details his ideological journey from a “movement” conservative to a man without a party, beginning with his political coming-of-age as a young émigré from the Soviet Union, enthralled with the National Review and the conservative intellectual tradition of Russell Kirk and F. A. Hayek. Against this personal odyssey, Max simultaneously traces the evolution of modern American conservatism, jump-started by Barry Goldwater’s canonical The Conscience of a Conservative, to the rise of Trumpism and its gradual corrosion of what was once the Republican Party.

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May 02, 2019
The Post Mueller Landscape
51:25

Katie and Joe discuss the Biden roll-out, the Great Impeachment Debate, Sarah Sanders and 28 years later we give Anita Hill the final word.

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Apr 29, 2019
SPECIAL: The Great Impeachment Debate - Round 1
52:16

To impeach or not to impeach -- that is the question. This week our own Joe Lockhart had a op-ed column published in The New York Times under the headline: “There’s a Prize Bigger than Impeachment” -- that followed a Times column back in March by our friend Philippe Reines co-Host of the new podcast Unredacted with Emily Brandwin and Molly Jong Fast, entitled --  “Why Impeaching Trump is ‘Worth It’”. Philippe's argument was the exact opposite of Joe's.


So, they decided to debate the issue face to face on Words Matter. Katie moderates Round 1 of the Great Impeachment Debate.

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Apr 26, 2019
Final Word: Columbine 20 Years Later
3:38

The shooting at Columbine High School in Colorado happened 20 years ago this week. Katie gives a special Final Word to Laura Hall and Sarah Bush -- sisters who survived the shooting and last week ran the Boston Marathon together.

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Apr 25, 2019
The (Redacted) Mueller Report -- Now What?
51:31

Katie and Joe sit down with Carrie Cordero and Elie Hoenig. Carrie is the Robert M. Gates Senior Fellow and General Counsel at the Center for a New American Security. She is also an adjunct professor of law at Georgetown University Law Center, a CNN legal analyst, and a contributing editor of Lawfare. Carrie has served in numerous senior positions at the Department of Justice and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. Her research and writing focus on intelligence community oversight, transparency, surveillance, cybersecurity and related national security law and policy issues.

 

Elie is a former state and federal prosecutor with extensive experience leading and managing criminal trials and appeals. In his work in the state of New Jersey. And as a federal prosecutor in the Southern District of New York. Elie has directed major criminal cases against street gangs drug trafficking organizations illegal firearms traffickers corrupt public officials child predators and white collar criminals. He also serves as executive director of the Rutgers Institute for Secure Communities at Rutgers University. And in his spare time Elie is a CNN legal analyst where he just launched Cross-Exam a new weekly column.


Carrie and Ellie explain what the Mueller Report really says, what it means and what happens next.

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Apr 22, 2019
SPECIAL: How to Read the (Redacted) Mueller Report
43:05

With the (redacted) Mueller Report set to be released on Thursday morning, Katie and Joe are joined by Matthew Miller for a reader's guide. Matt has worked at the highest levels of government and politics including service as the Director of the Office of Public Affairs for the Department of Justice, leading the Department’s communications team and serving as Attorney General Eric Holder’s spokesman.


Prior to his service at DOJ, Matthew worked in leadership positions in both the U.S. House and Senate, as well as the 2004 presidential campaign for then-Senator John Kerry.


He is a graduate of the University of Texas at Austin, an MSNBC contributor and has written for the Washington PostTime MagazinePolitico and others.

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Apr 16, 2019
Margaret Sullivan
55:35

Margaret Sullivan is the media columnist for The Washington Post and before that Margaret served as the fifth public editor of The New York Times and was the first woman to hold that position. Margaret is a native of Lackawanna, New York and began her career as a summer intern at the Buffalo News becoming the first woman editor there and managing editor in the hundred and thirty nine year history of that storied newspaper.

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Apr 15, 2019
Words Matter Library: Zucked by Roger McNamee
58:45

The New York Times bestseller about a noted tech venture capitalist, early mentor to Mark Zuckerberg, and Facebook investor, who wakes up to the serious damage Facebook is doing to our society – and sets out to try to stop it. 


This week we add ZUCKED by Roger McNamee to the Words Matter Library. It’s a story that begins with a series of rude awakenings. First there is the author’s dawning realization that the platform is being manipulated by some very bad actors. Then there is the even more unsettling realization that Zuckerberg and Sheryl Sandberg are unable or unwilling to share his concerns, polite as they may be to his face. 


And then comes the election of Donald Trump, and the emergence of one horrific piece of news after another about the malign ends to which the Facebook platform has been put. To McNamee’s shock, even still Facebook’s leaders duck and dissemble, viewing the matter as a public relations problem. Now thoroughly alienated, McNamee digs into the issue, and fortuitously meets up with some fellow travelers who share his concern, and help him sharpen its focus. Soon he and a dream team of Silicon Valley technologists are charging into the fray, to raise consciousness about the existential threat of Facebook, and the persuasion architecture of the attention economy more broadly — to our public health and to our political order. 

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Apr 12, 2019
Welcome Joe Lockhart
37:11

Katie officially welcomes Joe as the new co-Host of Words Matter. This week Katie and Joe discuss the politics of the Mueller Report, Trump's tax returns and Joe Biden's bad week. And Katie pays tribute to the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. on the 51st anniversary of his poignant and iconic "Mountain Top" Speech -- this week Dr. King, has the final word.

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Apr 08, 2019
Words Matter Library: 'Madam Speaker - Nancy Pelosi’s Life, Times and Rise to Power'
19:51

As Nancy Pelosi retakes the Speaker’s gavel and the leadership of the Democratic opposition to Donald Trump, we add “Madam Speaker - Nancy Pelosi’s Life, Times and Rise to Power” to the Words Matter Audible Library. Everything Nancy Pelosi has ever done, she has done extremely well. Listen to the life story of this historic leader -- the only woman and perhaps most influential and greatest House Speaker in American History.

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Apr 04, 2019
Nina Totenberg -- Legendary Supreme Court Journalist
40:20

Katie welcomes her friend Nina Totenberg to Words Matter. Nina is NPR's award winning and legendary legal affairs correspondent. Her coverage of the Supreme Court and legal and political affairs has won her widespread recognition. Newsweek calls her "the creme de la creme of NPR" and Vanity Fair calls her "Queen of the Leaks." She's not a lawyer but any lawyer in Washington will tell you she knows more about the law than they do.


From more than 30 years, Nina Totenberg has broken some of the biggest stories in some of the most important and consequential events in the history of Supreme Court nominations. Listen to Nina talk with Katie about the Brett Kavanaugh hearings, the Mueller Report and executive privilege and her special friendship with the Terminator -- former California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger.

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Apr 01, 2019
Words Matter Library: Daniel Patrick Moynihan - A Portrait in Letters
34:01

The Almanac of American Politics described Daniel Patrick Moynihan as “The nation’s best thinker among politicians since Lincoln and its best politician among thinkers since Jefferson.” Before his election to the US Senate in 1976, Moynihan served in the administrations of Presidents Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon and Ford. He was ambassador to India, and U.S. representative to the United Nations, and was four times elected to the U.S. Senate from New York.


This week we are honored to add Daniel Patrick Moynihan: A Portrait in Letters of an American Visionary to the Words Matter Audible Library. In this important book, distinguished journalist Steven Weisman compiles a vivid portrait of Moynihan’s life, in the senator’s own words. Moynihan's letters offer an extraordinary window into particular moments in history, from his feelings of loss at JFK’s assassination, to his passionate pleas to Nixon not to make Vietnam a Nixon war, to his frustrations over healthcare and welfare reform during the Clinton era.


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Mar 30, 2019
Final Word - Linda Brown
11:43

Linda Brown was in the third grade when her father Oliver tried to enroll her in Sumner Elementary School in Topeka Kansas. Oliver and his daughter Linda were denied admission to the school that day. The year was 1950. Sumner was an all-white school. And Linda attended the school for black children across town. Separate but equal ruled the day in America. The moment Linda was turned away, it started a series of events that toppled the idea of separate but equal and led her all the way to the steps of the Supreme Court of the United States. Linda's father was the named plaintiff in the landmark case Brown v. Board of Education.


This week, we give education pioneer and civil rights icon Linda Brown, the final word.

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Mar 28, 2019
What Happens Next?
52:00

With the Mueller Investigation over and his report delivered to the Attorney General, the battle moves to Capitol Hill. Katie and guest host Joe Lockhart talk with former state and federal prosecutor Elie Honig. As a federal prosecutor in the Southern District of New York, Elie directed major criminal cases against organized crime, street gangs, drug traffickers, corrupt public officials, child predators and white collar criminals. Elie is the executive director of the Rutgers Institute for Secure Communities at Rutgers University. And in his spare time Elie is a CNN legal analyst where he just launched "Cross-Exam" a new weekly column.

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Mar 25, 2019
Words Matter Library: We Say #NeverAgain
15:25

This week we put We Say #NeverAgain into the Words Matter Audible Library. This is a moving journalistic account of shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland and the fight for gun control - as told by the student reporters themselves. Read by Melissa Falkowski, Eric Garner, and the Parkland Student Journalists, this important book showcases how the teens told their own story. Listen as students share specific insight into what it has been like being approached by the press and how that has informed the way they interview their own subjects.

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Mar 22, 2019
Meet Joe Lockhart
41:41

Last week we talked to Former White Press Secretary Joe Lockhart about the news of the day how the Mueller investigation operates differently than the Starr investigation operated and how the White House in crisis battles with a hostile Congress and communicates with the press and the American people.


Our listeners wanted to hear more -- so we invited him back.


Joe served as the 19th White House Press Secretary under President Bill Clinton from 1998-2000. In 1999, Joe became the only White House Press Secretary in American history to serve during the Senate Impeachment Trial of a US President. Later Joe co-founded the Glover Park Group and went on to serve as Senior Vice President of the National Football League. Joe is currently a CNN political analyst and Vice Chairman of Edelman Public Relations.

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Mar 18, 2019
Special Final Word - Charlayne Hunter-Gault
4:19

The month of March is international women's history month and we recently celebrated International Women's Day. Black history month just ended in February -- and so in honor of both, Katie will be highlighting some outstanding women in this space. This week...Charlayne Hunter-Gault is an Emmy award winning investigative journalist and recipient of 2 Peabody Awards. But before any of that, she was the first black woman to attend the University of Georgia in the segregated South in 1961. Charlayne Hunter-Gault graduated with a degree in journalism in 1963. She went on to work for the New York Times ,The NewsHour With Jim Lehrer and worked as NPR's chief correspondent in Africa for many years. She's also an author. She wrote in my place a memoir about her experiences at the University of Georgia. Charlayne Hunter-Gault is a pioneer and paved the way for many women in journalism and education.

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Mar 13, 2019
Former White House Press Secretary Joe Lockhart
57:44

Joe Lockhart served as the 19th White House Press Secretary under President Bill Clinton from 1998-2000. In 1999, Joe became the only White House Press Secretary in American history to serve during the Senate Impeachment Trial of a US President. Later Joe co-founded the Glover Park Group and went on to serve as Senior Vice President of the National Football League. Joe is currently a CNN political analyst and Vice Chairman of Edelman Public Relations.

We talk to Joe about his recent CNN appearance with former Independent Counsel Ken Starr and how far he thinks Donald Trump is on the path toward Impeachment.

And Katie has a Final Word on legendary journalist and civil rights pioneer Charlayne Hunter-Gault.




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Mar 11, 2019
Words Matter Library: Power Wars by Charlie Savage
19:57

This week we put Power Wars, by Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and Washington correspondent for The New York Times, Charlie Savage into the Words Matter Audible Library.


First published in 2015, Power Wars is an investigative history of national-security legal policymaking in the Obama administration. Charlie is also the author of Takeover, published in 2007, which chronicles the Bush-Cheney administration’s efforts to expand presidential power.


Charlie has been covering post-9/11 issues — including national security, individual rights and the rule of law — since 2003, when he was a reporter for The Miami Herald. Later that year, he joined the Washington bureau of The Boston Globe; he moved to the Washington bureau of The New York Times in 2008. He has also co-taught a seminar on national security and the Constitution at Georgetown University.

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Mar 08, 2019
Charlie Savage of the New York Times
51:29

The Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Charlie Savage is a Washington correspondent for The New York Times. He is also the author of “Power Wars,” published in 2015, an investigative history of national-security legal policymaking in the Obama administration, and “Takeover,” published in 2007, which chronicles the Bush-Cheney administration’s efforts to expand presidential power.


Charlie has been covering post-9/11 issues — including national security, individual rights and the rule of law — since 2003, when he was a reporter for The Miami Herald. Later that year, he joined the Washington bureau of The Boston Globe; he moved to the Washington bureau of The New York Times in 2008. He has also co-taught a seminar on national security and the Constitution at Georgetown University.

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Mar 04, 2019
Meet Katie Barlow
1:36

Katie Barlow is the Host of Words Matter. She is a lawyer and the Founder and Editor of DC Circuit Breaker which provides news and analysis on the US Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia. As a journalist, Katie has covered Capitol Hill with WTOP, including Justice Elena Kagan’s confirmation hearing, as well as the Supreme Court with NPR’s Nina Totenberg. As a lawyer, her practice includes civil litigation and white-collar defense with a focus on the Anti-Terrorism Act. She received dual degrees in political science and broadcast journalism from the University of Georgia and a J.D. from Georgetown Law. Katie is a longtime lover of Washington, DC. If she is not solo traveling around the globe, you can often find her running down the mall with her 90-pound black standard poodle, Beau.

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Feb 27, 2019
Vanity Fair's William D. Cohan
1:03:35

This week, new host Katie Barlow interviews Vanity Fair special correspondent William D. Cohan as her first episode of Words Matter. Bill is former senior Wall Street M&A investment banker for 17 years and is the New York Times bestselling author of three non-fiction narratives about Wall Street. His latest book Why Wall Street Matters is a must read for anyone trying to understand the political and policy issues at stake in the 2020 elections. Bill also writes for The Financial Times, The New York Times, Bloomberg BusinessWeek, The Atlantic, The Nation, Fortune, and Politico

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Feb 25, 2019
Words Matter Library: "Why Wall Street Matters" by William D. Cohan
17:00

This week we add Why Wall Street Matters By William D. Cohan to the Words Matter Library Bill is former senior Wall Street M&A investment banker for 17 years and is the New York Times bestselling author of three non-fiction narratives about Wall Street. Bill is also a special correspondent at Vanity Fair. He also writes for The Financial Times, The New York Times, Bloomberg BusinessWeek, The Atlantic, The Nation, Fortune, and Politico

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Feb 22, 2019
The Show Goes On - Max Boot Interview
49:23

Washington Post Columnist Max Boot is the Jeane J. Kirkpatrick Senior Fellow in National Security Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations and a Global Affairs Analyst for CNN. In his latest book, The Corrosion of Conservatism: Why I Left the Right, Max details his ideological journey from a “movement” conservative to a man without a party, beginning with his political coming-of-age as a young émigré from the Soviet Union, enthralled with the National Review and the conservative intellectual tradition of Russell Kirk and F. A. Hayek. Against this personal odyssey, Boot simultaneously traces the evolution of modern American conservatism, jump-started by Barry Goldwater’s canonical The Conscience of a Conservative, to the rise of Trumpism and its gradual corrosion of what was once the Republican Party.

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Feb 18, 2019
Steve's Final Episode
31:46

Steve sits down with Elise and Adam in his first podcast interview since Howard Schultz announced on 60 Minutes that he was "seriously considering" an independent bid for President of the United States. In 2019, a billionaire thinking about running for president is a topic of great consequence. As Steve himself has reminded us again and again over the last two years, these are extraordinarily dangerous times, and the very future of our republic may hang in the balance. We believe that at this pivotal moment in our history, words do have power and they do have consequences. Don't miss Steve's final appearance on the podcast.

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Feb 10, 2019
April Ryan - "Under Fire: Reporting from the Front Lines of the Trump White House"
44:23

April Ryan is an award winning journalist, veteran White House Correspondent, and best selling author. And by reporting from inside the Trump White House, she’s come under fire -- just for doing her job . We talk to April about what it was like to cover the White House under Presidents Clinton, Bush, Obama - and now how and why she’s come under attack by Donald Trump and his press office. 

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Feb 04, 2019
Words Matter Library - "Under Fire: Reporting from the Front Lines of the Trump White House" by April Ryan
18:06

The Words Audible Matter Library goes to Washington to interview Award winning journalist, best-selling author, and veteran White House Correspondent April Ryan on her new book “Under Fire: Reporting from the Front Lines of the Trump White House.”

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Feb 01, 2019
Shutdown Fallout
48:26

The 35-day federal government shutdown may be over - for now - but the long terms effects will be felt by hard working Americans for months and perhaps years to come. $200 million in spending per week was lost not only by federal workers, but contractors and the people working in businesses that count on those dollars to survive. Elise and Steve discuss the political fallout from Donald Trump’s PR stunt gone horribly wrong. 

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Jan 28, 2019
Words Matter Library Special State the Union Edition
13:38

On what should be the eve of Donald Trump's second State of the Union address, we add Franklin D. Roosevelt’s 1941 “Four Freedoms” speech and Ronald Reagan’s Challenger Disaster speech to the Words Matter Audible Library. Through Audible you can go back and listen to the full address and absorb and appreciate the history of what real presidential leadership sounds like.

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Jan 25, 2019
Trumpistan in Chaos
53:59

The longest government shutdown in US history continues as Donald Trump and Senate Republicans continue to hold the paychecks of more than 800,000 Americans hostage in exchange for an unnecessary and ineffective border wall. Elise and Steve discuss the politics of the latest Trump created crisis - as well as how the 2020 Democratic field is shaping up.

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Jan 21, 2019
Words Matter Library: 'A Letter from Birmingham Jail' & 'Where do we go from Here?' By Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
18:52

This week, to honor legacy of the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr we proudly put “A Letter from Birmingham Jail” and “Where Do We Go from Here?” into the Words Matter Audible Library. There is perhaps no leader or public figure who symbolizes the power and importance of words better than Dr. King. Both of these Audible titles are historical treasures which are all too relevant today. 

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Jan 18, 2019
Professor Eddie Glaude, Jr. on Race in America
57:28

Professor Eddie Glaude Jr. argues in his groundbreaking book Democracy in Black that we live in a country founded on a “value gap”—with white lives valued more than others—that still distorts our politics today. Whether discussing why all Americans have racial habits that reinforce inequality, why black politics based on the civil-rights era have reached a dead end, or why only remaking democracy from the ground up can bring real change, Professor Glaude crystallizes the untenable position of black America--and offers thoughts on a better way forward. Forceful in ideas and unsettling in its candor, Democracy in Black is a landmark book on race in America. 

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Jan 14, 2019
Words Matter Library: 'Democracy in Black' by Professor Eddie Glaude, Jr.
17:37

We are proud to put "Democracy in Black" by Professor Eddie S. Glaude Jr. into the Words Matter Audible Library. Part manifesto, part history, part memoir, Professor Glaude argues that we live in a country founded on a “value gap”—with white lives valued more than others—that still distorts our politics today. Whether discussing why all Americans have racial habits that reinforce inequality, why black politics based on the civil-rights era have reached a dead end, or why only remaking democracy from the ground up can bring real change, Professor Glaude crystallizes the untenable position of black America--and offers thoughts on a better way forward. Forceful in ideas and unsettling in its candor, "Democracy In Black" is a landmark book on race in America.

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Jan 11, 2019
Welcome to 2019!
30:57

Welcome to Season 2 of Words Matter. The federal government is still shutdown, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is the only adult in the room and the race for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination is off to a fast start. Steve Schmidt gives his take and explains what it all means.

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Jan 08, 2019
Words Matter Library: 'Madam Speaker - Nancy Pelosi’s Life, Times and Rise to Power'
20:03

As Nancy Pelosi retakes the Speaker’s gavel and the leadership of the Democratic opposition to Donald Trump, we add “Madam Speaker - Nancy Pelosi’s Life, Times and Rise to Power” to the Words Matter Audible Library. Everything Nancy Pelosi has ever done, she has done extremely well. Listen to the life story of this historic leader -- the only woman and perhaps most influential and greatest House Speaker in American History.

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Jan 04, 2019
2018 Words Matter Library Review
16:05

As our first season comes to a close, we review the titles put into the Words Matter Audible Library in 2018. From Steve Kornacki’s “The Red and the Blue”, to “Profiles in Courage” to “Columbine” to “Tailspin” by Steven Brill - we go through the books we selected and why they are important to the public discourse in the Age of Trump. 

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Dec 31, 2018
Words Matter Library: "Profiles in Courage" by John F. Kennedy
12:12

In this addition of the Words Matter Library brought to you by Audible we add this Pulitzer Prize winning book by President John F. Kennedy. Profiles in Courage chronicles acts of bravery and integrity by 8 United States Senators. Caroline Kennedy and John F. Kennedy Jr. narrate the story of leaders who defied their party and their constituents to do what they felt was right and as a result suffered severe criticism and significant losses. 


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Dec 28, 2018
Roger Ailes & Trump State TV - an interview with Gabe Sherman
43:16

Would Nixon have survived if Fox News was around in 1974? Author of the “Loudest Voice in the Room,” Gabe Sherman explains how the GOP propaganda network was forged in the aftermath of Watergate - and how it’s now prepared to protect Donald Trump against all enemies- real and imagined. 

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Dec 24, 2018
Words Matter Library: 'The Loudest Voice in the Room' by Gabriel Sherman
12:20

This week we add Gabriel Sherman’s “Loudest Voice in the Room” to the Words Matter Audible Library. This astonishing inside story of Fox News, details how Roger Ailes created the most powerful media and political business in the world and divided a country in the process.

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Dec 21, 2018
'Swamp Chronicles' - by Adam Davidson of the New Yorker.
56:02

In his “Swamp Chronicles” series for the New Yorker, Adam Davidson follows the money of Donald Trump, his family, his Administration, and his business associates. From Azerbaijan to Scotland to Florida - Adam explains how the Trump Organization looks more like a money laundering scam than a legitimate business operation.

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Dec 17, 2018
Words Matter Library: 'TrumpNation - The Art of Being Donald Trump' by Tim O’Brien
45:03

This week we add “TrumpNation the Art of Being Donald Trump” to the Words Matter Audible Library. Find out why this comprehensive and definitive biography Donald Trump sued author Tim O’Brien for $5 billion. (Spoiler alert: Trump lost.) Get this must listen title from Audible - now!

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Dec 14, 2018
Remembering 41
36:35

George H. W. Bush was a man of honor, courage, integrity and kindness. The last of the "greatest generation" to serve as Commander-in-Chief, the 41st President of the United States will be remembered for many things -- not the least of which is his humanity. Few "great" people are also "good" people, George H. W. Bush was both -- and he will be missed. 

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Dec 10, 2018
Words Matter Library: '41 - A Portrait of My Father' By George W. Bush
22:29

This week we are proud to add “41 - A Portrait of My Father” by George W. Bush to the Words Matter Audible Library. This important and moving presidential biography by a presidential son is a must read to understand the both the 41st and the 43rd Presidents.

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Dec 07, 2018
Mississippi Smoldering
46:49

In a knockdown, drag out, exceptionally nasty runoff election for a US Senate seat - Democrats in Mississippi came much closer than anyone expected. Elise talks about the brutal campaign and the changing politics of her home state. 

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Dec 03, 2018
Words Matter Library – 'Tailspin: The People and Forces Behind America's Fifty-year fall--and Those Fighting to Reverse It' by Steven Brill
41:34

This week we add “Tailspin: The People and Forces Behind America's Fifty-year fall--and Those Fighting to Reverse It” to the Audible Words Matter Library. The latest book by award-winning journalist and best-selling author Steven Brill is a brilliant analysis of how and why major American institutions no longer serve us -- causing a deep rift between a vulnerable majority and the protected few. And at the same time, Mr. Brill gives us hope by explaining how some individuals and organizations are laying the foundation for real, lasting change.

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Dec 01, 2018
'How to Get Rid of a President' - An Interview with author and former CIA officer David Priess
48:08

David Priess is a former CIA officer and presidential briefer, his new book “How to Get Rid of a President” tells the history of the political dark arts in action. In the nation's highest office we see election dramas, impeachments, assassinations, natural death in office, mixed with party intrigue, personal betrayal, and backroom deal making. David explains how presidents can be sidelined without being removed from office. An essential Audible title for any political junkie in the Age of Trump. 


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Nov 26, 2018
Words Matter Library: ‘How to Get Rid of a President' by David Priess
13:15

This week we add "How to Get Rid of a President" by David Priess to the Audible Words Matter Library. A former CIA officer and presidential briefer, Priess tells the history of the political dark arts in action. In the nation's highest office we see election dramas, impeachments, assassinations, natural death in office, mixed with party intrigue, personal betrayal, and backroom deal making. An essential Audible title for any political junkie in the Age of Trump.

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Nov 23, 2018
LBJ and Reagan - An interview with Jonathan Darman author of 'Landslide'
54:06

This week we added "Landslide" by Jonathan Darman to the Audible Words Matter Library. In this riveting work of narrative nonfiction, Jonathan tells the story of two giants of American politics, Lyndon Johnson and Ronald Reagan, and shows how, from 1963 to 1966, these two men—the same age, and driven by the same heroic ambitions—changed American politics forever. This engaging title is a MUST Listen.

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Nov 19, 2018
Words Matter Library: 'Landslide' by Jonathan Darman
12:08

This week we add "Landslide" by Jonathan Darman to the Audible Words Matter Library. In this riveting work of narrative nonfiction, Jonathan tells the story of two giants of American politics, Lyndon Johnson and Ronald Reagan, and shows how, from 1963 to 1966, these two men—the same age, and driven by the same heroic ambitions—changed American politics forever. This engaging title is a MUST Listen.

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Nov 16, 2018
"It ain't over 'til it's over" - Midterm Election Wrap up
44:05

The 2018 Midterms keep going. In what was perhaps the most important Midterm Congressional Election in American history, voters put a check on Donald Trump and gave Democrats a solid majority in the House of Representatives. And almost a week later, some key races still haven't been decided. Steve and Elise talk about what happened, what's happening and what it means for the country going forward. 

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Nov 12, 2018
The Gathering Storm of Constitutional Crisis
17:17

Within hours of Democrats regaining control of the House of Representatives, Donald Trump holds an explosive East Room press conference and fires the Attorney General - replacing him with an unconfirmed political hack. Elise, Steve and Adam discuss the gathering storm of constitutional crisis.

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Nov 09, 2018
Midterm Election Preview
32:13

It is the most important midterm election in US history. On Tuesday Americans will either repudiate or validate Donald Trump and Trumpism. Elise and Steve look at the closing arguments on both sides and what’s at stake in Tuesday’s monumental election. 

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Nov 05, 2018
Words Matter Library: "Columbine" by David Cullen
20:04

In this episode of the Words Matter Library brought to you by Audible, Elise interviews award winning journalist and author David Cullen about his New York Times best seller, "Columbine." They discuss the evolution of mass shootings and how these tragedies fit into today’s politics.


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Nov 02, 2018
Rob Reiner - Words Matter Interview
56:23

As Americans prepare to vote in the most important Midterm election in our 242 year history, we sit down with legendary actor, director, producer, writer and activist Rob Reiner -- someone who knows a thing or two about politics, social unrest, culture wars, and taking on a racist, misogynistic, anti-Semitic bigot from Queens.


And we take a look back at an iconic book and something America needs now more than ever -- "Profiles in Courage" by John F. Kennedy.  

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Oct 29, 2018
Words Matter Library: "Profiles in Courage" by John F. Kennedy
11:33

In this addition of the Words Matter Library brought to you by Audible we add this Pulitzer Prize winning book by President John F. Kennedy. Profiles in Courage chronicles acts of bravery and integrity by 8 United States Senators. Caroline Kennedy and John F. Kennedy Jr. narrate the story of leaders who defied their party and their constituents to do what they felt was right and as a result suffered severe criticism and significant losses. 


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Oct 26, 2018
Lord Ashcroft - Words Matter Interview
10:35

Elise talks with Lord Ashcroft about the new round of Ashcroft in America research leading up to November's midterm elections - and about his new book "White Flag? An Examination of the UK's 'Defence Capability."

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Oct 24, 2018
Vanity Fair’s Emily Jane Fox, author of "Born Trump" - Words Matter Interview
32:55

Vanity Fair’s Emily Jane Fox talks about her best selling book “Born Trump.” From Ivanka to Don Jr. to Eric, Tiffany and Barron - Emily tells us what really goes on inside America’s First (dysfunctional) Family.


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Oct 22, 2018
Words Matter Library: "Born Trump" by Vanity Fair's Emily Jane Fox
10:50

Like his father, Donald Trump, had 5 children -- hoping that at least one would "turn out like him." Elise and Steve add "Born Trump: Inside America's First Family" by Vanity Fair's Emily Jane Fox to the Words Matter Library brought to you by Audible


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