Into Africa

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Fearless music activists. Savvy tech entrepreneurs. Social disrupters. Into Africa shatters the narratives that dominate U.S. perceptions of Africa. Host Judd Devermont, Africa program director at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) in Washington D.C., sits down with policymakers, journalists, academics and other trailblazers in African affairs to shine a spotlight on the faces spearheading cultural, political, and economic change on the continent.

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The Price of Peacekeeping
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America spends more money on Halloween candy than on UN peacekeeping operations each year. What is the true value of these missions and how much in financial contributions are required to earn a seat at the table? Judd Devermont sits down with Paul-Simon Handy (Institute for Security Studies), Kate Almquist Knopf (Africa Center for Strategic Studies), and Chandrima Das (Better World Campaign) to discuss the state of peacekeeping in Africa. Guests also explore democracy and protests in Senegal and the UN’s decision to close its peacekeeping mission in Darfur. Background Reading: Walking a Tightrope: The Transition from UNAMID to UNITAMS in Sudan - Daniel Forti Five reasons why America needs to pay its peacekeeping bill - Hardin Lang and Victoria Holt
Apr 15, 2021
Africa's Muckrakers
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Investigative journalism in Africa is entering a golden age. What trends underpin new access to and the dissemination of hidden information? Judd Devermont is joined by journalists Micah Reddy (amaBhungane), Peter Murimi (BBC Africa Eye), and Khadija Sharife (OCCRP) to discuss the realities facing media houses today. Other topics include the recent explosions in Equatorial Guinea and attacks on the LGBTQ+ community in Ghana.  Background Materials: I am Samuel Film - Directed by Peter Murimi   Congo-Brazzaville Strongman Buys Secret Weapons Haul from Azerbaijan - Khadija Sharife and Mark Anderson  BBC Africa Eye: The Baby Stealers - Peter Murimi, Joel Gunter and Tom Watson
Apr 01, 2021
Populism Rising
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How does populism manifest itself in sub-Saharan Africa in comparison to other regions? As part of a special live episode with a class at the University of San Francisco, Judd Devermont is joined by Kathleen Klaus (University of San Francisco), Chiponda Chimbelu (Deutsche Welle), and Danielle Resnick (International Food Policy Research Institute) to discuss factors that enable populist leaders to gain political sway in Africa. Guests also unpack the strengths and weaknesses of Kenya’s Building Bridges Initiative (BBI) and discuss Zambian President Edgar Lungu’s decision to run for a “third term,” as well as what it means for the democratic trajectory of the country.   Background Readings: Political Violence in Kenya: Land, Elections, and Claim-Making – Kathleen Klaus  There’s a long, troubling history behind the Capitol attack – Kathleen Klaus and Aditia Malik  Africa and the Biden Administration’s Summit for Democracy – Judd Devermont  Populism in Africa, The Oxford Handbook of Populism – Danielle Resnick  
Mar 18, 2021
Africa on Africa
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How do African media outlets portray politics, economics, and cultural life in their own countries and in the broader region? Aanu Adeoye (The Continent), Moky Makura (Africa No Filter), and Yinka Adegoke (Rest of World) join Judd Devermont for a lively discussion on how increased media coverage on Africa and a focus on human-interest stories can foster unity and drive continental potential. Guests also discuss the impact of Tanzanian President Magufuli’s previous denial of Covid-19, and Africa’s path to economic recovery over the next few years.   Background Readings: The country where Covid-19 doesn’t exist: Nothing to see here, says Tanzania’s president – The Continent Unfinished Business: Magufuli’s Autocratic Rule in Tanzania – Marielle Harris   Africa’s diversified economies are set to rebound quicker than its extractive giants – Yinka Adegoke How African Media Covers Africa – Africa No Filter 
Mar 04, 2021
Beyond Strongly-Worded Statements
1921
How do we go beyond rhetoric that rarely translates into concrete and strategic action? In our 10th episode in partnership with African Arguments, Judd Devermont is joined by Deborah Malac (former U.S. Ambassador to Uganda), Maria Burnett (CSIS), and Michael Mutyaba (African Arguments contributor) to discuss recommendations for foreign partners and donors in holding autocratic regimes accountable—beyond strongly-worded statements. Guests also delve into Uganda’s repressive elections and the deteriorating humanitarian conditions displacing millions in Ethiopia.  Background Readings:  Uganda: How donors can go beyond “strongly-worded statements” – Michael Mutyaba (African Arguments)  Repression as Voters Weigh Museveni’s 34 Years – Maria Burnett  The Battle of Mekelle and Its Implications for Ethiopia – Judd Devermont 
Feb 18, 2021
Cobalt and the Do No Harm Myth
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Central to the green revolution and technologies of the future, cobalt is found in some of the most conflict-stricken and unjust places on earth. What is the industry's current approach to responsible sourcing? Pamela Fierst-Walsh (U.S. Department of State), Mike Jobbins (Search for Common Ground), and Laurent Kasindi (Search for Common Ground) join Judd Devermont to highlight the benefits of a "do more good" over a "do no harm" approach to mineral mining. Guests also discuss recent attacks by the Coalition of Patriots for Change (CPC) in the Central African Republic, as well as the upcoming Somali presidential elections. 
Feb 04, 2021
Making Sense of Chinese Tech
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The growth of Chinese technology in Africa has sounded alarm bells in Washington and other foreign capitals. Beyond security and surveillance risks, what, if any, benefits exist for Africans? Judd Devermont is joined by Chairman Carolyn Bartholomew (U.S. China Economic and Security Review Commission), Bulelani Jili (Harvard University), and Jeremy Goldkorn (SupChina and Sinica Podcast) to unpack the concerns surrounding Chinese involvement in the region’s tech sector, sharing recommendations for the Biden administration. Other topics include the fight for Covid-19 vaccines and ANC Secretary-General Ace Magashule’s corruption charges. Background Readings:  The Spread of Surveillance Technology in Africa Stirs Security Concerns - Bulelani Jili  No immediate changes to U.S. China policy under Biden, including tariffs – Jeremy Goldkorn 
Jan 28, 2021
Sauti Sol on Making Pop Music During a Pandemic
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What role do musicians play in politics and advocacy, especially during a health crisis? For this special anniversary episode, East Africa’s biggest pop band, Sauti Sol share their thoughts on the music industry’s adaptation to the pandemic, the state of Kenya’s health system, and efforts to remain outspoken about police brutality. Lauren Blanchard (Congressional Research Service) and Damola Durosomo (CSIS) also join Judd Devermont to discuss the state of Sudan’s political transition two years in and Mali’s interim government’s National Transitional Council appointment of musician Salif Keita.  Background Reading   Rethinking Crisis Responses in the Sahel – Judd Devermont and Marielle Harris 
Jan 14, 2021
Season Three Preview
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Welcome to the third season of the Into Africa podcast. As always, Judd Devermont has an exciting lineup of high-profile guests from around the world joining in to unpack African politics and policy and dig deeper into new topics. There's a lot to look forward to this year: Chinese tech in Africa, vaccine diplomacy, conflict minerals, and the reparation of African artifacts. We also plan to host webinar shows with U.S. universities and African think tanks. See you next week for our special anniversary episode featuring Kenyan afro-pop band, Sauti Sol!
Jan 07, 2021
Viral Diplomacy
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How does multilateral diplomacy transform during a global pandemic? In our season finale, Judd Devermont is joined by Alex Rondos (European Union), Sanusha Naidu (Institute for Global Dialogue), and Susan Page (University of Michigan) to discuss relationship building in a pre- and post-pandemic world. Guests also examine key developments in the conflict in Ethiopia's Tigray region, and expectations for the incoming Chair of the African Union, DRC's President Felix Tshisekedi. See you in the New Year for Into Africa's third season.  Background Reading: The Battle of Mekelle and Its Implications for Ethiopia - Judd Devermont  Rediscovering America: Why African Leader Tours Benefit U.S. Foreign Policy - Judd Devermont and Catherine Chiang
Dec 17, 2020
Exploring the Digital Currency Frontier
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Covid-19 has accelerated the adoption of digital currency and mobile money platforms in Africa. How can innovations in FinTech lower the barriers to vital remittance flows? Judd Devermont is joined by Yomi Kazeem (Quartz Africa), Alexis Akwagyiram (Reuters), and Deepali Fernandes (IOM) to discuss the tug-of-war between innovation and regulation, high-tech solutions to expanding internet access across the continent, and the Trump Administration's opposition to the first African and first female Director-General of the WTO. Background Readings:  The Trump White House is the last obstacle to a first African leader of the WTO – Yomi Kazeem The WTO DG Race: What Happens Now? – William Alan Reinsch Google is working on delivering super-fast internet in Africa with experimental light beams – Yomi Kazeem The Train is Leaving the Station: The Future of Digital Currency in Sub-Saharan Africa – Judd Devermont & Topaz Mukulu Regulators in Africa's big economies are scrambling to get on top of a spike in cryptocurrency trade – Yomi Kazeem How Bitcoin met the real world in Africa – Alexis Akwagyiram
Dec 03, 2020
Africa Reacts to the U.S. Elections
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The long-awaited results of the United States presidential election will shape the future of American democracy and U.S.-Africa policy for years to come. Are there lessons from sub-Saharan Africa that the U.S. should consider as it reflects on its electoral process? Udo Jude Ilo (Open Society Initiative for West Africa), Maria Sarungi Tsehai (#ChangeTanzania), and Jason Stearns (Congo Research Group) join Judd Devermont to discuss the elections, the future of Nigeria's #EndSARS movement, DRC's tumultuous leadership struggle, and the conflict in Ethiopia's Tigray region.  Background Materials: Race and Diplomacy: How does BLM resonate in Africa? – CSIS Africa Reacts to the U.S. Presidential Election – CSIS Nigeria: Learning from #EndSARS - A New U.S. Policy Toward Nigeria – Judd Devermont and Matthew T. Page A New Direction for U.S. Foreign Policy in Africa – Jason Stearns and Zachariah Mampilly A New U.S. Policy Framework for the African Century – Judd Devermont
Nov 12, 2020
If You Build It, They Will Come
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The elderly and those living with noncommunicable diseases (NCDs) are two populations growing faster in sub-Saharan Africa than elsewhere in the world. What challenges do these vulnerable groups face in the wake of Covid-19 and what opportunities exist for increased private sector engagement? Judd Devermont sits down with Rumbi Chakamba (Journalist), Nik Pereira (Africa Healthcare Network), and Nina Prieur (Prosper Africa) to explore U.S. investment in specialized care, Senegal's exemplary pandemic response, and a massive oil spill in Mauritius.  Background Reading:  How Senegal has set the standard on COVID-19 – Rumbi Chakamba  Senegal's quiet COVID success –  Deidre Shesgreen  The Covid-19 Global Response Index – Foreign Policy  The Strategic Significance of Africa’s Smallest Democracies – Judd Devermont   A Wake-up Call: What Covid-19 Reveals about Elderly and NCD Care in Sub-Saharan Africa – Judd Devermont and Marielle Harris  Sisters care for home-based patients and the terminally ill in Botswana – Rumbi Chakamba 
Oct 29, 2020
Virtues of Virtual Election Monitoring
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When it comes to election observation, there’s often one rule for the West and another for everybody else. But with a wave of democratic backsliding occurring around the world, now may be the time to disrupt the status quo and reimagine election observation missions. In our eighth episode with African Arguments, Ansbert Ngurumo (Journalist), Nic Cheeseman (University of Birmingham), and Jessica Moody (King’s College London) join Judd Devermont to discuss shifting electoral processes, election safety, and democracy during the Covid-19 pandemic. Guests also unpack the mounting suppression facing opposition parties and assess how this will affect upcoming presidential elections in Tanzania and Côte d'Ivoire.   Background Readings:  Magafuli: An Epitome of Cowardice – Ansbert Ngurumo  How to Rig an Election – Nic Cheeseman and Brian Klaas  Ouattara's out, but whoever wins in Cote d'Ivoire, many won't be happy – Jessica Moody (African Arguments)  How to hold elections safely and uphold democracy during Covid-19 – Nic Cheeseman (The Conversation)  Africa Reacts to the First Presidential Debate and Trump’s Case of Covid-19 – CSIS
Oct 15, 2020
A Zombie-Free Recovery of Africa's Energy Sector
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Energy development is at the heart of an inclusive African recovery from Covid-19, but how can we supercharge the region's power sector? Todd Moss (Energy for Growth Hub), Rose Mutiso (Energy for Growth Hub; Mawazo Institute), and Kate Steel (Nithio) join host Judd Devermont to discuss the future of Africa's energy sector, South Africa's struggling diplomacy in Zimbabwe, and key challenges facing African think tanks.  Background Readings: A post Covid agenda for a 'zombie-free' recovery of Africa's power markets - Rose Mutiso and Todd Moss  Pilot Database: Understanding the RACE metric - Jacob Kincer and Todd Moss  Ted Talk: How to bring affordable, sustainable electricity to Africa - Rose Mutiso  The crisis of African think tanks: Challenges and solutions - Brookings Institution About the Mazawo Institute - Mawazo.org Upcoming: Rose Mutiso's Ted Talk on climate justice and energy (Live on 10/10/2020)
Oct 01, 2020
How the Gulf, India, and Japan Think about Africa
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Diplomatic engagement is at an all-time high across Africa. How can multilateral cooperation effectively address challenges such as Covid-19 and regional security? Judd Devermont is joined by Payton Knopf (USIP), Nilanthi Samaranayake (CNA), and Housam Darwisheh (Institute of Developing Economies) to discuss India, Japan, and the Gulf's approach to the continent, the current state of the Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam, and the dispute over the Indian Ocean island of Diego Garcia.  Background Readings: A Strategic Framework to Improve Coronavirus Response in Africa - Judd Devermont and Nilanthi Samaranayake How a Tiny Indian Ocean Island Could Force a US-UK Rift - Nilanthi Samaranayake What’s Ahead for the Horn of Africa in 2020 - Payton Knopf
Sep 17, 2020
How Beijing Courts African Partners
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China's footprint in Africa extends beyond infrastructure projects and financing. How significant are the relationships spun between Chinese elites and their African counterparts? In our eighth episode with African Arguments, Shinovene Immanuel (The Namibian), Lina Benabdallah (CSIS), and John Culver (Former National Intelligence Officer) join host Judd Devermont for a conversation on Chinese engagement with Africans. Guests also discuss Namibia's fishrot corruption scandal and politics in Algeria.   Background Readings: Why Mali Needs a New Peace Deal - Judd Devermont and Marielle Harris Under the Radar: Summer Edition - Judd Devermont and Ryan Cummings The Spoils of the Fishrot (Part 1) - Shinovene Immanuel and Tutaleni Pinehas Swapo's 'golden children' - Shinovene Immanuel Shaping the Future of Power - Lina Benabdallah   China loans Africa much less than you think - Lina Benabdallah (African Arguments)
Sep 03, 2020
Confronting the History of U.S.-Africa Policy
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The last 70 years of U.S.-Africa policy is underscored by a bipartisan legacy of continuity. How can it evolve to meet new challenges and realities? Ambassador Hank Cohen (Former Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs), Dr. Elizabeth Schmidt (Loyola University Maryland), and Dr. Adebayo Oyebade (Tennessee State University) join Judd Devermont for a lively discussion on the past, present, and future of U.S. policy toward Africa. Guests also discuss the implications of President Ouattara's candidacy for a third term in Côte d'Ivoire and Nashville's historic African diaspora. Background Reading: Under the Radar: Summer Edition - Judd Devermont and Ryan Cummings Foreign Intervention in Africa: From the Cold War to the War on Terror - Elizabeth Schmidt Foreign Intervention in Africa after the Cold War: Sovereignty, Responsibility, and the War on Terror - Elizabeth Schmidt US Foreign Policy in Africa and the 21st Century - Adebayo Oyebade  US Policy Toward Africa: 8 Decades of Realpolitik - Hank Cohen A New U.S. Policy Framework for the African Century - Judd Devermont
Aug 20, 2020
La Françafrique n'est pas morte
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France has complicated and often contentious relations with Francophone Africa. What is Françafrique and how has it evolved in recent years? Judd Devermont is joined by Rahmane Idrissa (African Studies Center in Leiden), Ambassador Jeff Hawkins (Former U.S. Ambassador to CAR), and Marielle Harris (CSIS) to discuss Françafrique's prominence in the region, Mali's worsening political crisis, and the Central African Republic’s upcoming presidential elections. Background Reading: Why Mali Needs a New Peace Deal - Judd Devermont and Marielle Harris
Aug 06, 2020
Great Power Debate
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Since the start of the Trump Administration, the United States has identified strategic competition with China and Russia as a core objective in sub-Saharan Africa. Is great power competition the most constructive framework for formulating and implementing U.S. policies in sub-Saharan Africa? In this virtual CSIS debate event, Judd Devermont is joined by Dr. Oby Ezekwesili (Africa Economic Development Policy Initiative), Ken Ofori-Atta (Minister for Finance, Ghana), Gayle Smith (ONE Campaign), and Juan Zarate (Financial Integrity Network) to debate the opportunities and risks embedded in the great power competition concept and to explore how it evolves during a global pandemic. Online Event: CSIS Debate Series: Great Power Competition Debate Results
Jul 23, 2020
Covid Corruption
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Critical sources of funding and supplies are flowing into the region to help the African governments battle the Covid-19 pandemic. But legacies of corruption are compromising the response efforts at a time when countries are at their most economically vulnerable. How can policymakers prevent and expose corruption, as well as implement systemic reform? Patrick Smith (Africa Report), Onyi Ough (Step Up Nigeria), and Matthew Page (Chatham House, CEIP, CDD West Africa) join Judd Devermont to discuss Covid-19, Angola's history of corruption, and Nigeria's growing political turmoil within the ruling All Progressives Congress.  Background Reading: Angolan Government Relying on Partner Assistance to Fight Covid-19 - Emilia Columbo (CSIS) Angola: on the trail of stolen billions - The Africa Report Coronavirus: Nigeria's 'Fiscal Flu' - Matthew Page (Chatham House) Dubai Property: An Oasis for Nigeria’s Corrupt Political Elites - Matthew Page (CEIP) Emeka's Money - Onyi Ough (Step Up Nigeria)
Jul 09, 2020
It's an Infodemic!
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How do we separate fact from fiction? What is the best way to tackle misinformation about the virus? In our seventh episode with African Arguments, Ambassador Dawn Liberi (Former U.S. Ambassador to Burundi), Lee Mwiti (Africa Check), and Antonio Zappulla (Thomson Reuters Foundation) join host Judd Devermont to discuss the rapid spread of misinformation in Africa and the dangerous implications of government crackdowns on the press during the pandemic. Guests also examine Burundi’s turbulent transition following the death of President Nkurunziza and Kenya’s faltering economy. A note to our listeners: this episode was recorded on June 12th and some of the fast-moving developments in Burundi may not be reflected in the episode. Background Reading: Kenya Tops Angola as Sub-Saharan Africa’s No. 3 Economy - Bloomberg 3 African leaders: The smart step to fight the virus - CNN Egypt forces Guardian journalist to leave after coronavirus story - The Guardian FACTSHEET: Coronavirus and the Covid-19 outbreak - Africa Check What's Crap on WhatsApp? - Africa Check and others
Jun 25, 2020
There’s an App for That
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Africa is undergoing a digital transformation, helping the region to weather some the pandemic's negative consequences. What opportunities exist to accelerate Africa's adoption of digital and mobile technologies? Host Judd Devermont is joined by Dr. Amani Abou-Zeid (African Union Commissioner for Infrastructure and Energy), Ilana Cohen (GSMA), and Greg Cohen (Asoko Insight) to discuss the Covid-19 challenge and GSMA’s report, “Digital Solutions for the Urban Poor.” Separately, Judd, Greg, and Ilana also review President Museveni’s approach to the pandemic and developments in Madagascar. Background Reading: Digital Solutions for the urban Poor - GSMA  Uganda: Driving inclusive socio-economic progress through mobile-enabled digital transformation - GSMA Mobile money recommendations to central banks in response to COVID-19 - GSMA Virus exposes gaping holes in Africa’s health systems - Reuters The Digital Transformation Strategy for Africa (2020-2030)
Jun 11, 2020
Work in the Age of Covid-19
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How will the Covid-19 pandemic affect the future of business, trade, and investment in sub-Saharan Africa? How important will technology and automation be for economic development in the region? Guests Laird Treiber (State Department), Chukwuka Onyekwena (Center for the Study of the Economies of Africa), and Vijaya Ramachandran (Center for Global Development) join host Judd Devermont to discuss the new world of work. Guests also analyze South Africa and Nigeria’s responses to the pandemic. Background Reading South Africa’s Bold Response to the Covid-19 Pandemic – Judd Devermont and Topaz Mukulu Understanding the impact of the COVID-19 outbreak on the Nigerian economy – Chukwuka Onyekwena and Mma Ekeruche Nigeria's Tech Sector May Be Booming, but Where Are the Women? – Vijaya Ramachandran and Blessing Omakwu Can Africa Be a Manufacturing Destination? Labor Costs in Comparative Perspective – Vijaya Ramachandran et al. Philanthropy and the Humanitarian Crisis in Northeast Nigeria – Judd Devermont
May 28, 2020
Viruses and VEOs
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How will the Covid-19 pandemic affect African governments’ ability to respond to violent extremism in the region? Will groups exploit the health, economic, and political crisis brought on by the pandemic? In this security-focused episode, host Judd Devermont is joined by Bulama Bukarti (Tony Blair Institute), Emilia Columbo (CSIS), and Will Brown (The Telegraph, CSIS) to discuss the violence in northern Mozambique, Boko Haram’s attack on Chadian soldiers in late March, and Covid'19's implications for the security landscape. Background Reading: Extremist Groups Stepping up Operations during the Covid-19 Outbreak in Sub-Saharan Africa – Emilia Columbo and Marielle Harris Supporting Mozambique’s Response to the Growing Insurgent Threat in Cabo Delgado – Emilia Columbo How Jihadi Groups in Africa Will Exploit COVID-19 – Bulama Bukarti As the World Is Distracted, Boko Haram Terrorists Strike a Key Western Ally – Will Brown
May 14, 2020
The Shape of Africa to Come
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Experts project that the next few years will be pivotal for Africa's growth and influence. What policies should African governments and their partners focus on to positively shift the region’s trajectory? Jonathan Rosenthal (The Economist), Erin Sikorsky (National Intelligence Council), and Jakkie Cilliers (Institute for Security Studies) join Judd Devermont to discuss forecasting and the continent's projected growth and development. Guests also explore the widespread abuses by security forces during Covid-19 enforced lockdowns and Lesotho’s Prime Minister Tom Thabane’s decision to step down.  Background Reading: Africa First! Igniting a Growth Revolution - Jakkie Cilliers The African Century (The Economist special report) - Jonathan Rosenthal  Global Trends: The Paradox of Progress (2017 report)  - National Intelligence Council
Apr 30, 2020
Never, Ever, Explain Satire
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Can humor be leveraged to spark political change? Bruce Wharton (former U.S. Ambassador to Zimbabwe), James Wan (African Arguments), and Nkechi Nwabudike (The Other News) join host Judd Devermont to discuss the role of satire in African media, politics, and diplomacy. Guests also discuss the government of Zimbabwe’s comments on Covid-19 and the challenge of holding free and fair elections during the Covid-19 pandemic. This is our sixth episode in partnership with African Arguments. Background Reading: Surviving COVID-19: Fragility, Resilience and Inequality in Zimbabwe - African Arguments Pandemic at the Polls - Judd Devermont Satire: BP praised for ambition to destroy Africa but potentially a bit slower - James Wan Writing about “that kind of country” in a time of coronavirus - Jess Auerbach 
Apr 16, 2020
In Hot Water
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Rising temperatures across the globe will have profound consequences for Africa’s oceans and the people that are dependent on them for their livelihoods. How can countries work together in order to mitigate the effects of climate change? Max Bearak (Washington Post), Nina Forgwe (British High Commission in Cameroon) and Whit Saumweber (CSIS) join host Judd Devermont to discuss local and international community responses. Also, guests review how governments are reacting to the Covid-19 pandemic and the upcoming year for the diplomatic initiative: G7++ Friends of Gulf of Guinea Group.  Background Reading: A Crisis in the Water is Decimating This Once-Booming Fishing Town  by Max Bearak and Chris Mooney COVID-19 Is an African Political Crisis as Much as a Health and Economic Emergency  by Judd Devermont and Eric Olander
Apr 03, 2020
Partner of Choice
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African militaries are working with the U.S., China, Russia, and others in order to address their security concerns. In an increasingly crowded space, are Africans looking for a partner of choice or a choice of partners? Host Judd Devermont sits down with Katie Bo Williams (Defense One), Ryan Cummings (Signal Risk) and Jonah Victor (Author) to discuss African views on U.S. and foreign security assistance. Guests also review Malian President Keita’s negotiations with extremist leaders and the wave of vigilante violence in Zambia. Background Reading African Security: An Introduction - Jonah Victor and John Siko Speaking with Vampires: Rumor and History in Colonial Africa - Luise White Social media claims about Zambia gas attacks linked to riots, lynchings - AFP
Mar 19, 2020
In Courts We Trust?
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What is the role of the courts in ensuring that elections are free and fair? Are African courts becoming more independent? In our fifth episode with African Arguments, Jimmy Kainja (academic), Marti Flacks (former NSC Director for Africa), and Carl LeVan (American University), join Judd Devermont to explore recent developments in how elections are conducted. Guests also discuss the nullification of election results in Malawi and Kenya, Togolese President Faure Gnassingbé’s fourth term and more.   Background Reading Malawi court orders fresh elections. What now? by African Arguments The Game Has Changed: Rethinking the U.S. Role in Supporting Elections in Sub-Saharan Africa by Judd Devermont The opposition playbook for discrediting elections and its risks by African Arguments How to Rig an Election by Nic Cheeseman
Mar 05, 2020
The Future of African Studies
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Africa plays a major role in world affairs and will gain in prominence in the coming decades. How should the U.S. support African studies programs to develop the next generation of Africa experts? This special episode was recorded live at The Elliott School of International Affairs. Judd Devermont is joined by Ambassador Reuben Brigety II (The Elliot School); Jennifer Cooke (The Elliot School’s Institute for African Studies) and Professor Mohammed Camara (Howard University) to discuss the future of African studies. Also, Trump’s travel ban on Nigeria, Sudan, Eritrea, and Tanzania and President Ramaphosa’s new role as African Union Chair. Background Reading: Trump trashes Nigeria and bans its immigrants. Nigerians love him for it. – Adaobi Nwaubani, The Washington Post
Feb 20, 2020
Bringing African Legislatures Back In
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How have African legislatures evolved and how do they shape political competition across the continent? Ken Opalo (Georgetown University), Janette Yarwood (U.S. House of Representatives), and Tyler Beckelman (U.S. Institute of Peace) sat down with Judd Devermont to explore new approaches to strengthening legislative institutions. Guests also weigh in on the agenda behind Kenya’s Building Bridges Initiative and the ongoing Anglophone conflict in Cameroon. Background Reading: Legislative Development in Africa: Politics and Postcolonial Legacies by Ken Opalo Cameroon Must Make Concessions to End the Anglophone Crisis by Ken Opalo and Claire Hazbun Congressional Letter to His Excellency Paul Biya What to Watch in Sub-Saharan Africa in 2020
Feb 06, 2020
City of Immigrants
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Most migrants stay in Africa, settling in a neighboring country rather than traveling to Europe. How is this shaping demographic and urbanization trends in Africa? Host Judd Devermont is joined by Abdi Nor Iftin (Author), Erol Yayboke (CSIS), and Beza Tesfaye (Mercy Corps) to discuss Abdi’s book ‘Call Me American: A Memoir.’ Also on this episode; guests discuss South Sudan’s fragile peace deal and humanitarian challenges, plus the threat of Al Shabaab in Somalia.   Background Reading Call Me American: A Memoir by Abdi Nor Iftin A Short Window to Resuscitate South Sudan’s Ailing Peace Deal by Crisis Group Trends in Forced Migration Report by Erol Yayboke Critical Choices Report by Mercy Corps
Jan 23, 2020
Finding Our Own Champions
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Local LGBT rights advocacy groups continue to form across the African continent. How can international advocates and policymakers support sexual minorities without making them more vulnerable to attacks? Robbie Corey-Boulet (AFP), Neela Ghoshal (Human Rights Watch), and Yoseph Badwaza (Freedom House) join host Judd Devermont to discuss Robbie’s new book, Love Falls on Us. Guests also assess Ethiopian Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed’s Nobel Peace Prize win and current threats to President Déby’s regime in Chad.   Background reading: Love Falls On Us: A Story of American Ideas and African LGBT Lives by Robbie Corey-Boulet. Briefing: Problems multiply in Déby’s Chad by Philip Kleinfield.  
Jan 09, 2020
A Love-Hate Relationship With African Print
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African prints are wrapped up in complicated issues around gender, tradition, and commerce. How do these dynamics affect their starring role in the creative economy? In our fourth episode with African Arguments, host Judd Devermont is joined by Aubrey Hruby (Atlantic Council); Topaz Mukulu (CSIS); and Idza Luhumyo (writer) to discuss the history and future of the East African leso. Guests also discuss Angola's new opposition leader and the impact of Chinese streaming service, Boomplay.
Dec 12, 2019
Bobi Wine and the Making of a President
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In this special anniversary episode, Ugandan musician and opposition leader Robert Kyagulanyi (aka. Bobi Wine), joins host Judd Devermont, Lauren Blanchard (Congressional Research Service) and Damola Durosomo (OkayAfrica) in studio to discuss the challenges he faces in the lead up to Uganda’s 2021 presidential elections. Plus, guests delve into Somalia’s domestic politics and examine why Nigeria’s first Oscar submission, Lionheart, was disqualified.
Nov 26, 2019
Season Two Preview
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Season 2 of Into Africa starts next week. Host Judd Devermont unveils some of the exciting new features in store for the next season. As our audience grows, so do our ideas and this will be reflected in the new topics, high-profile guests, and dynamic formats we plan to showcase. What to expect: Special interviews with prominent African leaders, live streamed in-studio shows, off-site live recordings, and more!
Nov 21, 2019
The Russia-Africa Show in Sochi
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With the conclusion of the first-ever Russia-Africa Summit in Sochi, how should the U.S. respond to Russia’s return to Africa? What are Putin’s goals for the region? Host Judd Devermont talks Russian engagement with Simon Allison (Mail & Guardian), Andrea Kendall-Taylor (Center for a New American Security) and Karen Monaghan (retired CIA officer). Guests also discuss the latest on CAR’s conflict and Guinea-Bissau’s pivotal upcoming presidential elections. Background reading: Russian Theater: How to Respond to Moscow’s Return to the African Stage - Commentary by Judd Devermont
Nov 14, 2019
Where’s Your Digital ID?
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What role does digital identity play in unlocking Africa’s economic potential? Host Judd Devermont sits down with Magdi Amin (Omidyar Network), Cameron Hudson (Atlantic Council) and Victoria Crandall (Young African Entrepreneur podcast) to discuss the significance of digital ID, Sudan’s battle to implement reforms and revive its economy, and Benin’s current state of affairs.
Oct 31, 2019
Living in Translation
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How does language shape diplomatic engagement on a continent that houses such linguistic variety? In our third episode with African Arguments, host Judd Devermont explores this question with Nanjala Nyabola (Author), Catherine Kelly (African Center for Strategic Studies), and Michele Wagner (U.S. State Department). Guests also review the Somalia-Kenya maritime border dispute and Senegalese President Macky Sall’s eyebrow-raising decision to pardon a political rival.
Oct 17, 2019
Express Yourself
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African creatives are using their talents to represent the region and reshape African narratives. Host Judd Devermont chats with innovators Fati Abubaker, (Independent photojournalist) and Mike Achode (Crudo Volta), as well as academic Lindsey Green-Simms (American University) about perceptions of the continent and opportunities to impact U.S. policy. Plus, guests examine the rise of xenophobic violence in South Africa and what the Pope’s visit to Africa means for the future of the Catholic Church.
Oct 03, 2019
The Party Don’t Stop
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Why are some political parties able to hold onto power for decades? Do they still connect with their constituents or is the playing field uneven? Host Judd Devermont, Anne Pitcher (University of Michigan), Liberata Mulamula (George Washington University) and Emily Renard (Open Society Foundations) tackle these questions and open the conversation with spotlights on Angola and Congo-Brazzaville. (Note: The CSIS Africa Program has partnered with Open Society Foundations. However, this relationship did not inform the substance of this podcast episode.)
Sep 19, 2019
Too Good To Die
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Despite democratic gains in Africa, some of its leaders are seeking to ditch presidential term limits and extend their grip on power. In this episode of Into Africa, host Judd Devermont (CSIS), Ayisha Osori (Open Society Initiative for West Africa), Alex Noyes (RAND Corporation), and Ambassador Mark Bellamy (CSIS) review the state of term limits in Africa and why some may view their leadership as indispensable. The experts also review Nigeria’s new cabinet of ministers and the deteriorating economic conditions in Zimbabwe. (Note: The CSIS Africa Program has partnered with Open Society Foundations and has a pending project proposal with OSIWA. However, these relationships did not inform the substance of this podcast episode.)
Sep 05, 2019
We are Young
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How can the U.S. support Africa’s next generation? Judd sits down with two young African leaders, Beverley Hatcher-Mbu (Africa Policy Accelerator) and Ezbora Lubamba (Young African Leaders Initiative), as well as the Executive Director of Emerging Public Leaders, Yawa Hansen-Quao, for a conversation on how leadership programs can equip youths to tackle African challenges and opportunities. Guests also weigh in on the recent U.S. Congressional delegation visit to Ghana and renewed interests in Africa’s entertainment market.
Aug 22, 2019
Toward a More Pragmatic U.S. Policy on China-Africa Relations
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How should the United States respond to China’s rapidly expanding footprint in Africa? Host Judd Devermont (CSIS) teams up with the co-hosts of the China in Africa Podcast, Cobus van Staden and Eric Olander, as well as Yun Sun (Stimson Center) to discuss how the U.S. government can develop a more pragmatic and effective policy to manage China’s activities in Africa. A review of President Ramaphosa’s progress in South Africa and Zambian President Lungu’s crackdown on anti-China politicians serve as episode preludes. This episode is a joint production with the China in Africa Podcast, hosted and produced by the founders of the China Africa Project, Eric Olander and Cobus van Staden. Click here to listen to the China in Africa Podcast edition of the program. Subscribe to the China in Africa podcast on Apple Podcasts. Subscribe to the China Africa Project email newsletter.
Aug 08, 2019
It’s a Woman’s World
2013
From Sudanese protest icons to top political posts in Ethiopia, Liberia, and beyond, women are rising rapidly to the helm of sub-Saharan African politics. Host Judd Devermont is joined by Riva Levinson (KRL International), Mwende Mwinzi (Kenya’s ambassadorial designate to South Korea), and Esther Tawiah (Gender Centre for Empowering Development) to dissect the challenges women face as they break into a historically male-dominated arena. The episode begins with quick takes of the Trump Administration’s “Prosper Africa” initiative and motivations behind Liberia’s June 7th protests.
Jul 26, 2019
The Beautiful Game’s Soft Power
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As African national teams battle it out on the pitch in Cairo, Host Judd Devermont (CSIS Africa Program Director) is joined by Trina Bolton (U.S. State Department), Ayodeji Rotinwa (African Arguments) and Richard Downie (CSIS) to discuss the political implications and soft power potential of the ongoing 2019 Africa Cup of Nations. Guests kick off the episode assessing the current friction within Botswana’s ruling party and the recent political violence in Ethiopia.
Jul 11, 2019
Where’s the “Poll” in U.S. Policy?
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Should polling shape U.S. policy decisions in Africa? Emmanuel Gyimah-Boadi (Afrobarometer), Christopher Fomunyoh (National Democratic Institute) and Brittany Brown (International Crisis Group) join Judd Devermont (CSIS) to discuss the role of polling in U.S.-Africa policy development and implementation. Guests also touch on President of Guinea Alpha Conde’s third term ambitions and Ghana’s 2020 presidential elections.
Jun 27, 2019
There’s No One-Size-Fits-All Transition
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Supporting political transitions from military to civilian rule in Africa requires consistent engagement, international coordination, and diplomatic flexibility. If mishandled, it could result in violence and a democratic reversal. This episode features Ambassador Johnnie Carson, former NSC Director Allison Lombardo, as well as our first African Arguments author Faten Aggad, for a conversation on the significance of power transitions on the continent. Guests also weigh in on recent violence in Sudan and Uganda’s political and economic trajectories.
Jun 14, 2019
Updating the Coup Playbook
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How do coup d'etats unfold in sub-Saharan Africa? Host Judd Devermont (CSIS Africa Program Director) sits down with experts Naunihal Singh (Naval War College), Max Siollun (Nigerian historian and author), and Alexis Arieff (Congressional Research Service) to discuss the political and intra-military dynamics that shape coups on the continent, and debate the impacts of technology on future military takeovers. First up, guests size up DRC President Felix Tshisekedi's first 100 days in office and weigh the significance of Mauritania's upcoming presidential election.
May 30, 2019
Podcasting Across Africa
2008
How can podcasts about Africa help counter outdated perceptions of the continent? Podcast hosts Judd Devermont (CSIS, Into Africa), Kim Yi Dionne (University of California, Riverside; Uhafamu Africa), Rachel Beatty Reidl (Northwestern University, Uhafamu Africa), Andile Masuku (African Tech Round-Up), and Travis Adkins (On Africa) join forces for this must-listen crossover episode. They talk the art of podcasting, Malawi's upcoming elections, and Jumia's IPO.
May 16, 2019
Charting a New Course for African Cities
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Africa’s future is urban. The continent will become 50 percent urban by 2030 and its urban population will double by 2050, yet policymakers have not revised their programmatic approach. In this recording from their 2019 Global Development Forum session, Judd Devermont (CSIS), Jefferson T. Koijee (Mayor of Monrovia, Liberia), Emilio Ciarlo (Italian Agency for Development Cooperation), Dana Omran (100 Resilient Cities), and Somik Lall (World Bank) share how the continent can configure its urban areas to unlock their potential.
May 02, 2019
The Famished Road
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How do we build roads to the future? Former Liberian Minister of Public Works Gyude Moore (Center for Global Development) explains how cutting-edge technology can revolutionize Africa’s basic infrastructure challenges. Judd Devermont (CSIS), Diane McMahon (Bechtel Corporation), and Joel Wiegert (Nexant) weigh in on Moore’s vision, Uganda-Rwanda tensions, and the African Continental Free Trade Agreement (AfCFTA).
Apr 18, 2019
Collateral Trade Damage
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A trade war has escalated between the U.S. and China, and African economies are caught in the crossfire. On this episode, Bill Reinsch (CSIS), Catherine Chiang (CSIS), and Julius Agbor (Vanguard University of Southern California) join Judd Devermont (CSIS) to unpack how tariff tensions are impacting African economic growth and what it means for U.S.-Africa relations. The experts also assess the international response to Cameroon’s protracted conflict and the China-Kenya tiff over tilapia.
Apr 04, 2019
The Art of Analysis
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U.S. intelligence analysts, as well as academics and political risk consultants, struggle to anticipate and assess leadership transitions in sub-Saharan Africa. Judd Devermont (CSIS), Jeffrey Herbst (American Jewish University), Mike Noll (The George Washington University), and Amaka Anku (Eurasia Group) discuss why leadership analysis is so vexing, identify common pitfalls, and recommend critical thinking tools and techniques to sharpen analytic judgments. Examinations of South Africa’s recent corruption scandals and Côte d'Ivoire’s new political dynamic open the episode.
Mar 21, 2019
The Gulf, East Africa, and the Great Game
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Gulf states are making moves on the continent, adding another layer to Africa's increasingly crowded and complex political landscape. Zach Vertin (Brookings Doha Center), Raechel Haecker (former Deputy National Intelligence Officer for Africa), and Godfrey Musila (expert on international law and security) join Judd Devermont (CSIS) to unpack emerging Gulf-Africa dynamics. The podcast kicks off with close-ups on South Sudan's peace prospects and Gabon's ailing president.
Mar 07, 2019
Know Your (Human) Rights
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Human rights violations persist across Africa. How can the global community engage national governments to reverse this trend? Judd Devermont (CSIS) puts the question to experts Carine Kaneza Nantulya (Human Rights Watch), Amy Lehr (CSIS), and Chidi Odinkalu (The Open Society Justice Initiative). Protests in Zimbabwe and Senegalese elections also feature on this episode.
Feb 22, 2019
It Takes a Million to Hold Us Back
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A new generation of African protesters are using technology and innovation to call out injustices. Judd Devermont (CSIS), Mvemba Phezo Dizolele (Johns Hopkins University), Zachariah Mampilly (Vassar College), and former Ambassador Bisa Williams (independent observer via The Carter Center) weigh in on the resiliency of today's anti-regime movements. Analyses of the DRC elections and unrest in Sudan cue up this discussion.
Feb 07, 2019
Decoding the Continent
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Big data is unlocking Africa’s complex problems. Olúseun Onígbińdé (BudgIT), Ariel Ben Yishay (AidData), and Hilary Matfess (Yale) share how data helps hold leaders to account, track foreign spending, and assess security threats. With Judd Devermont (CSIS) moderating, the panel also checks in on Nigeria ahead of its presidential election and on the rising insurgent threat in Mozambique.
Jan 23, 2019
Truth, Lies, and Journalism
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Journalism remains a vital but dangerous profession in sub-Saharan Africa. Rodney Sieh (FrontPage Africa), Jon Temin (Freedom House) and Siobhan O’Grady (Washington Post) join Judd Devermont (CSIS) to discuss Rodney's recent book, Journalist on Trial, and unpack challenges facing the continent’s media. But first, checkups for South African foreign policy and Gambian democracy.
Jan 09, 2019
No Peace to Keep
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What happens when peacekeepers deploy to an active conflict zone? Judd Devermont (CSIS), Dr. Paul Williams (George Washington University), Alice Friend (CSIS) and SRSG Parfait Onanga-Anyanga (MINUSCA) examine the challenge of peacekeeping where there is no peace to keep. Guests also consider Ethiopia’s future under Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed and whether the alleged death of leader, Amadou Koufa, will impair—or energize— the extremist group JNIM.
Dec 12, 2018
Whose Election Is It Anyway?
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With elections heating up across the continent, Michelle Gavin (Council on Foreign Relations), John Tomaszewski (International Republican Institute), and Idayat Hassan (Centre for Democracy and Development) join Judd to talk election monitoring and the roles of international and domestic observers. Guests also weigh in on Congo’s fragmented political opposition and the growing threat of Tanzanian authoritarianism. Hosted by Judd Devermont and produced by Yumi Araki and Catherine Chiang at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. 
Nov 28, 2018
Music is the Weapon of the People
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Judd sits down with renowned Afro-beats star and fearless activist, Bobi Wine, to discuss how his music is inspiring Ugandan youths to challenge state repression. Damola Durosomo (OkayAfrica) and Lauren Ploch Blanchard (Congressional Research Service) join in on the conversation. Also in store, an update on Nigeria’s 2019 elections and Melania Trump’s not-so-memorable trip to four African countries.
Nov 07, 2018