Patterns Podcast
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Episodes: 142
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Welcome to the Patterns Podcast. Each episode we sit down with the leaders and builders defining how modern digital products come to life. From systems and tools to culture and decision making, we dig into what’s driving real impact today and shaping the future of how teams build.
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Building Trust: Designing Product Ecosystems in the Age of AI
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Mar 10, 2026 |
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Inside the Alaska–Hawaiian Merger: Shipping a Multi-Brand Experience in 10 Months
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Feb 10, 2026 |
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Designing the Learning Loop: Context, AI, and Compound Systems
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Jan 27, 2026 |
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DSP 139. Why the Future of Digital Production Starts With Code, Not a Canvas
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Dec 17, 2025 |
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DSP 138. Scaling Inclusive Design: An Accessibility Conversation with Anna Thielke
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Dec 04, 2025 |
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DSP 137. Why You Shouldn’t Aim for Perfect: Building Design Systems That Deliver Business Value with Noelle Lansford
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Nov 11, 2025 |
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DSP 136. Are Design Systems Still for People? A Conversation with Elyse Holladay
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Jul 22, 2025 |
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DSP 135. The Infrastructure Behind Digital Production: A Conversation with Steve Dodier-Lazaro
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Jul 08, 2025 |
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DSP 134 Modernizing a Legend: Catherine Dubut Builds the Future at Ford Pro
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Jun 13, 2025 |
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DSP 133. Garth Braithwaite on Design Tokens, Governance, and Scaling Spectrum at Adobe
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May 27, 2025 |
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DSP 132. The Evolution of Digital Production: TJ Pitre Talks Flash, Figma, and the Future of Dynamic Design
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Apr 29, 2025 |
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DSP 131. DSP Rewind | Rick Rodriguez on Building an Adaptable and Scalable Design system
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Apr 15, 2025 |
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DSP 130. Jon Warden on How GSK Uses Design Systems to Balance Scale, Flexibility, and Innovation
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Apr 02, 2025 |
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DSP 129. Mashup | The Future of AI and Digital Production
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Mar 18, 2025 |
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DSP 128. Rewind | Emily Campbell: Design and code convergence
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Mar 11, 2025 |
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DSP 127. Building a Unified Design System for Instacart’s Multi-Product Ecosystem: Lessons for Success from Miranda Bouck
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Feb 04, 2025 |
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DSP 126. Scaling Avalara's Design System to Support a Growth-By-Acquisition Strategy
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Jan 21, 2025 |
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DSP 125. Inside H-E-B’s Digital Transformation: Adriana Morales on Design Systems That Empower Teams
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Jan 07, 2025 |
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DSP 124. From Ideas to Impact: Chris Strahl and Evan Lovely on Five Years of Design Systems Innovation
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Dec 10, 2024 |
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DSP 123. Adoption, Efficiency, and Value: insights from KickstartDS’s Jonas Ulrich and Daniel Ley
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Nov 26, 2024 |
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DSP 122. Creating Cohesion from Chaos: The Role of Language and System Design with Ben Callahan
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Nov 12, 2024 |
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DSP 121. The Intersection of Urban Planning and Design Systems: Insights from Andii Hei
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Oct 29, 2024 |
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DSP 120. From Designer to Design System Leader: Insights from Allison Shaw's Career Journey
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Oct 15, 2024 |
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DSP 119. Rethinking Design Consistency: Debating Tokens vs. Components with ADPs Alice Preisler
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Oct 01, 2024 |
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DSP 118. Reusability, Collaboration, and Empathy: Catalina Manea on Bridging Design and Development to Build Applications with Design Systems"
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Sep 17, 2024 |
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DSP 117. Why Kate Moran Thinks Humans Are Essential to the Future of Generative UI and AI.
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Sep 03, 2024 |
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DSP 116. Designed for success: How Guy Segal Built a Design System that Product Teams Want to Use.
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Aug 20, 2024 |
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DSP 115. Design System Sources of Truth: Transparency and Collaboration with Dropbox’s Mark Shuster
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Aug 06, 2024 |
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DSP 114. Design Systems and Ways of Working: Nick Hahn on Collaboration, Adoption, and AI
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Jul 09, 2024 |
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DSP 113. Config 2024: Highlights and Hot Takes with Jina Anne and Adekunle Oduye
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Jun 28, 2024 |
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DSP 112. Creating Effective Design Systems for Small and Mid-Size Companies: Apiture’s Journey
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Jun 27, 2024 |
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DSP 111. How AI is Revolutionizing Design Systems and Customer Experiences with Dave Calleja
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Jun 12, 2024 |
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DSP 110. The Evolution of ServiceNow's Design System with Meredith Van Lier
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May 28, 2024 |
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109. Making Design Systems Inclusive with Accessibility Specialist Daniel Henderson-Ede
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May 14, 2024 |
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108. U.S. Bank’s Beau Ulrey on Building Trust Through Design Systems
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Apr 30, 2024 |
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107. The Evolution of IBM's Carbon Design System with Scott Strubberg
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Apr 16, 2024 |
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106. Brad Frost on Adaptable Design Systems
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Apr 02, 2024 |
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105. Ranjeet Tayi from Informatica: AI-Driven Design
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Mar 19, 2024 |
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104. Shawn Cheris from Adobe: Spectrum 2 Design System and AI’s Role in the Future of Design
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Mar 12, 2024 |
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103. Nate Baldwin from Intuit: Multi-Brand Theming in Complex Organizations
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Mar 07, 2024 |
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102. David Müller: Intentional Breakpoints and AI Insights
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Feb 29, 2024 |
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101. PJ Onori of Pinterest/Disney: Design Systems Shifting the Productivity Paradigm
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Feb 20, 2024 |
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100. Brian Dorsey on Design and Engineering Synergy at Mastercard
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Feb 13, 2024 |
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99. Jackie Lai, Lead UX Designer at OPIS Dow Jones, on Creating Future-Proof Systems
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Feb 07, 2024 |
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98. Exploring Alexandrian Patterns in Design Systems with Kevin Muldoon at Dow Jones
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Jan 30, 2024 |
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97. Curt Schreiber, CCO at VSA, on Building Global Design Systems for Scale
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Jan 23, 2024 |
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96. Jina Anne and Adekunle Oduye: Navigating Career Pathways in Design Systems
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Jan 16, 2024 |
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95. Matt Weinberg, Sr. Product Designer at Angi: Empathy-First Approach to Evolving Design Systems
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Jan 02, 2024 |
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94. Josh Clark, Founder of Big Medium: Scaling Digital Strategy Within Complex Organizations
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Dec 19, 2023 |
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93. Nathan Curtis, Co-founder of EightShapes: Balancing reuse and customization in UI Design
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Dec 13, 2023 |
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92. Lisa Apers Independent Designer and Researcher: Tailoring UIs with brainwaves for personalized user experiences
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Nov 30, 2023 |
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91. Designing diversity: Crafting tiered systems for a global market with Tim Banker at Slalom Consulting
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Nov 16, 2023 |
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90. The innovation triad: Needs, coverage and adoption with Alex Wilson and Jon Reidy at T. Rowe Price
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Nov 09, 2023 |
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89. Metrics matter: Harnessing usage data for adoption, coverage, efficiency, and quality with Maya Hampton at REI
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Nov 01, 2023 |
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88. Beyond isolation: Harmonizing products in a design ecosystem with JJ Rogers at Watermark
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Oct 26, 2023 |
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87. Designing success: Crafting principles for passkey adoption with Kevin Goldman and Sierre Wolfkostin at FIDO Alliance
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Oct 18, 2023 |
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86. From consistency to contribution: How design systems grow trees with Jay Smith at REI
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Oct 04, 2023 |
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85. Driving speed and consistency: The power of design systems in startups with Jamie Totten at Klue
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Sep 27, 2023 |
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84. Digital typography: Suggesting, not dictating with Juli Sombat at Spotify and Jason Pamental at Chewy
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Sep 21, 2023 |
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83. Breaking silos and enhancing teamwork in design systems with Tony Pantello and Chris Henke at Accutech
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Sep 13, 2023 |
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82. Design system revamp: Unpacking Monster's UX odyssey with Billea Breen
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Sep 06, 2023 |
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81. Embracing change with Mark Reynolds, Design System Consultant: How design and engineering roles are evolving in design systems
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Aug 30, 2023 |
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80. Bridging Code & Creativity with Kevin Broich at Cisco
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Aug 22, 2023 |
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79. Inside Pinterest's Gestalt System with Product Designers, Kate Halvorsen and Cintia Romero: A community-centric approach
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Aug 15, 2023 |
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78. Bridging the design-code gap at Meta, a multidisciplinary approach with Sriram Ramasubramanian
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Aug 08, 2023 |
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77. Robin Cannon, Executive Director and Head of Design System at J.P. Morgan: Creating an environment that encourages and builds trust with design systems
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Jul 31, 2023 |
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76. Christophe Coutzoukis Design System Lead: Building Thriving Design System Communities
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Jul 24, 2023 |
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75. Adam Sedwick Senior Product Manager: Harnessing the power of design systems to unify your team
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Jul 12, 2023 |
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74. Richard Banfield, Advisor & Recovering CEO: What does iterative work look like in design systems?
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Jun 22, 2023 |
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73. Sheryl Cababa Chief Strategy Officer at Substantial: Using system thinking to make informed decisions
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Jun 15, 2023 |
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72. Danielle MacDonald Creative Head, Digital Product Design: Designing to scale
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May 31, 2023 |
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71. Chris Deluca Senior Front-End Developer: People are the heart of design systems
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May 23, 2023 |
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70. Pinata's Kendall Totten interviews Knapsack CEO Chris Strahl: Design with code and AI
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May 16, 2023 |
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69. The single source of truth mentality: Meta Part Two
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May 09, 2023 |
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68. Driving Consistency Across Systems with Meta Part One
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May 02, 2023 |
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67. Design Token Takes Part Two: Kaelig Deloumeau-Prigent and Darren Simons
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Apr 23, 2023 |
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66. Design Token Takes Part One: Amber Stickel and Taylor Cashdan
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Apr 17, 2023 |
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65. Morgane Peng Managing Director & Head of Design at Societe Generale Corporate & Investment Banking: Is a design system a business asset or a technical asset?
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Mar 13, 2023 |
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64. Evan Lovely CTO & Co-Founder of Knapsack: Source of truth should be the user experience
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Mar 06, 2023 |
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63. Jennie Yip Principal Design Architect from Atlassian Design System: Building design systems, following the path of least resistance
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Feb 28, 2023 |
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62. Avery Oldt Head of Design and Research from Amazon: Scaling ideas to systems
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Feb 19, 2023 |
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61. Jack McCloy Engineering Manager from Amplitude: The Purpose of Design Systems
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Feb 15, 2023 |
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60. Adekunle Oduye from Plaid: Systems and solving problems for its users
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Feb 07, 2023 |
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59. Jennifer D’Amato, Senior UI/UX Designer and Donnie D’Amato, Senior Engineer: Design systems reflect those who use, maintain and are a part of it
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Jan 30, 2023 |
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58. Michael Jeter, Creative Director from Zapier: Systems have always been a part of solving design problems
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Jan 18, 2023 |
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57. Francesco Cutolo from Klarna: Start from scratch, or build on existing design systems, which is more viable?
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Jan 09, 2023 |
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56. Smith Schwartz, Product Design Manager & Tyce Clee, Engineering Manager at Spotify discuss their design system, Encore
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Dec 20, 2022 |
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55. Todd Wilkens from Remote: The experience is the product
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Dec 07, 2022 |
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54. Nick Hahn founder of Creative Liberation: Design systems are going to reduce the need for early career designers by 75%
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Nov 22, 2022 |
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53. Dana Lawson from Netlify: Bridging the gap between engineers and designers
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Nov 15, 2022 |
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52. Kathryn Gonzalez from DoorDash: Localize your design system
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Oct 27, 2022 |
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51. Evan Lovely, Chris Bloom, Jake Love, and Brittany Smart from Knapsack: Hot Takes on the State of Design Systems
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Sep 21, 2022 |
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50. Stephen Gates: What makes a good design leader?
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Sep 06, 2022 |
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49. Vojtech Miksu from Uber: Next-gen tooling for developers
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Aug 01, 2022 |
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48. Meghan Rosatelli and Saejin Choi from Capital One: Navigating design system convergence, adoption, and contribution simultaneously
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Jun 06, 2022 |
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47. Nick Dorman and Ellis Capon from News UK: Bridging old and new media with News UK’s design system, NewsKit
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May 16, 2022 |
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46. Davy Fung from Disney+/Hulu: Spicy takes on design system nuances
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May 02, 2022 |
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45. Una Kravets from Google Chrome and Chris Bloom from Knapsack: The internet’s dirty secret
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Apr 18, 2022 |
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44. Corey Greeneltch from Compass: Why design systems should be part of your company’s DNA
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Apr 04, 2022 |
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Special announcement: Patterns, the design systems conference for leaders
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Mar 31, 2022 |
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43. Matt May and Veda Rosier from Adobe: Building an accessible, inclusive design system
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Mar 21, 2022 |
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42. Neva Corbo-Hudak and Rogin Farrer from Wayfair: The long evolution of a web design system
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Mar 14, 2022 |
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41. Mike Bowser from Vista: The past, present, and future of design systems
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Feb 08, 2022 |
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40. Zach Hendershot and Aaron Stone from Crux Digital: How agencies solve difficult technical problems for Fortune 1000 clients
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Nov 29, 2021 |
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39. Stephen Gates from WW: Culture, design methodology, and design system ROI
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Nov 15, 2021 |
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38. Gina Calcaterra Bhawalkar from Forrester: Lorem ipsum won’t help your design system
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Nov 02, 2021 |
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37. Josh Cusick from Microsoft: Imagining design system utopia
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Oct 29, 2021 |
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36. Deep Dive: Design System ROI with Robin Cannon from IBM iX and Danny Phillips from Procore
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Sep 21, 2021 |
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35. Leonardo De La Rocha from Intuit: Using one design system to manage dozens of products
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Jul 02, 2021 |
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34. Audrey Tan from Xero: Creating a long-lasting design system vision
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Jun 21, 2021 |
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33. Jess Clark from LinkedIn: Old tech, new tech
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Jun 07, 2021 |
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32. Deep dive on tokens with Adam Argyle from Google: How do you codify composition?
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May 17, 2021 |
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31. Maya Hampton from REI: Pattern-based thinking on all levels
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May 03, 2021 |
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30. Jehad Affoneh from Splunk and Scott Mathis from VMware: Schrodinger's tokens, open-source, and components
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Apr 12, 2021 |
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29. Dave Calleja from Isobar: How agencies build design systems
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Mar 29, 2021 |
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28. Matthew Ström from SimpleHealth: Using design tokens to standardize deliverables
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Mar 15, 2021 |
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27. Jennie Yip from Atlassian: Storytelling to drive design system success
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Feb 02, 2021 |
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26. Avery Oldt from Blermph: Embracing intentionality and creating trust
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Jan 19, 2021 |
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25. Eric Lobdell from Facebook: Anticipating deviation to drive adoption and contribution
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Jan 05, 2021 |
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24. Nick Cochran from ExxonMobil: How to make doing the right thing the easy thing
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Dec 15, 2020 |
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23. Vidya Nayak from SoFi: Leading design systems across teams
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Nov 25, 2020 |
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22. Demian Borba from Adobe: Understanding and harnessing the power of design tokens
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Nov 03, 2020 |
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21. Jina Anne from Clarity: A design system origin story
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Oct 21, 2020 |
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20. Rick Rodriguez from Walmart Labs: Creating design systems that scale
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Sep 29, 2020 |
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19. Morgane Peng from Societe Generale: The right level of complexity for the right people
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Sep 01, 2020 |
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18. Jason Lengstorf from Netlify: Failure, finding your way, and helping others adopt a new way of working
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Aug 19, 2020 |
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17. Varun Vachar from Rangle: The design graph and computational design
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Aug 06, 2020 |
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16. Adam Argyle from Google: Making your design system freeing vs. constraining
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Jul 08, 2020 |
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15. Stephen Gates: What are you doing about the people and trust aspects of your design system?
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Jun 23, 2020 |
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14. Mina Markham: Building shared culture and better collaboration between designers and developers
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Jun 11, 2020 |
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13. Micah Godbolt: Design and code meeting in the middle with Fluent UI at Microsoft
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May 20, 2020 |
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12. Ethan Marcotte: Design systems and the evolution of how we work
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May 11, 2020 |
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11. Brad Frost and Evan Lovely: Code is the source of truth
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Apr 20, 2020 |
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10. Jeremy Keith: Overcoming entropy and turning chaos into order
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Apr 02, 2020 |
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9. Charles Hall: Accessibility is good for your products and great for your business
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Mar 25, 2020 |
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8. Salem Ghoweri: Bolt Design System and front-end architects
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Mar 05, 2020 |
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7. Skip Newberry: Technology and design in government
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Feb 21, 2020 |
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6. Marco Suárez: Buying into design systems
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Feb 06, 2020 |
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5. Tatiana Mac: Design and inclusivity
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Jan 17, 2020 |
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4. Dan Mall: How do design systems work in enterprise organizations?
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Jan 02, 2020 |
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3. Emily Campbell: Design and code convergence
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Dec 18, 2019 |
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1. Evan Lovely: What are design systems?
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Dec 09, 2019 |