Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD

By Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford

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The Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD podcast, hosted by Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford, is for Human Resources and Organizational Development change-makers committed to bold work in an era that calls for the skills, values and partnership of these two disciplines. Bob and Joyce are former HR and OD C-suite executives who share their successes, failures, and hacks. They believe that it's an exciting time for this work and give specifics around acquisitions, policy nightmares, and grand moments. This podcast is to support your work and to take a moment to step away from the daily chaos. Come on in, grab a snack, and welcome!

Episode Date
Episode 242: We Can’t Ignore What’s Wrong Anymore
Jul 28, 2026
Episode 241: Paper Plate Wisdom
Jul 20, 2026
Episode 240: American Democracy - The Greatest Organizational Design Experiment Ever
Jul 08, 2026
Episode 239: More Peter Drucker – OD Insights on Getting the Right Things Done
Jun 23, 2026
Episode 238: The Secret Ingredients Behind Fast Organizational Change
Jun 12, 2026
Episode 237: The Family Trap – Should Workplace Culture Embrace Family Values?
Jun 05, 2026
Episode 236: The OD Praise Conundrum
May 25, 2026
Episode 235: When Change Management Isn’t OD
May 15, 2026
Episode 234: The Workplace as an Island of Sanity: Creating Stability in Uncertain Times
May 07, 2026
Episode 233: Old Wisdom, New Work: Drucker’s Lessons for HR and OD
Apr 30, 2026
Episode 232: Men Lead Like This. Women Lead Like That… Or Do They?
Apr 23, 2026
Episode 231: Why OD Should Own the Workplace Conversation—But Rarely Does
Apr 17, 2026
Episode 230: If You’re Not Asking Why, It’s Not OD
Apr 06, 2026
Episode 229: When OD Gets in the Way (And What to Do About It)
Mar 24, 2026
Episode 228: Leadership in Uncertain Times — Don’t Wait for Optimism, Generate It
Mar 18, 2026
Episode 227: If OD Can’t Create Hope, Who Will?
Mar 06, 2026
Episode 226: The Problem Isn’t the Strategy — It’s the Thinking
Feb 26, 2026
Episode 225: The Culture You Have (Not the One You Talk About)
Feb 16, 2026
Episode 224: OD’s 2026 Reality Check: What Actually Deserves Your Attention
Feb 10, 2026
Episode 223: Clearing the Fog: Why Decluttering Isn’t the Point
Jan 30, 2026
Episode 222: What the Business Demands from Its Leaders This Year
Jan 20, 2026
Episode 221: Come Play in Our 2026 Rejuvenation Sandbox
Jan 16, 2026
Episode 220: Starting Fresh: What Actually Makes a Reset Stick
Jan 05, 2026
Episode 219: Happiness at Work: The Data Leaders Can’t Ignore
Dec 19, 2025
Episode 218: A Practical Way to Read What Your Organization Is Trying to Tell You
Dec 17, 2025
Episode 217: Unlocking Human Potential: A Conversation with Alfredo Borodowski, PhD, MSW
Dec 09, 2025
Episode 216: How the Words We Use Lift — or Limit — Us
Nov 24, 2025
Episode 215: Speaking Truth to Power: A Conversation with Bernie Youngblood
Nov 18, 2025
Episode 214: Outsourcing HR: What Could Possibly Go Wrong?
Nov 10, 2025
Episode 213: Leading with Purpose and Passion — A Conversation with Bishop Kevin Foreman
Nov 03, 2025
Episode 212: 🎙️ From Dismissal to Discovery: Finding Purpose After a Layoff with Steve Jaffe
Oct 20, 2025
Episode 211: Safe Spaces in a Fractured World: Leading with Intention
Oct 01, 2025
Episode 210: Why Neurodivergent Leaders Hold Untapped Power: Insights from Rita Ramakrishnan, PCC, ACTC
Sep 29, 2025
Episode 209: Quit the Guilt Trips, Get Real Buy-In
Sep 23, 2025
Episode 208: The Power of Grit: Blue-Collar Heroes Among Us
Sep 15, 2025
Episode 207: Hard Lessons, Simple Rules: What Really Works in OD
Sep 09, 2025
Episode 206: Resistance Isn’t the Enemy
Sep 02, 2025
Episode 205: Unleashing Energy Part 2: The Hidden Force in Leadership and Culture
Aug 25, 2025
Episode 204: The Power We Don’t See (But Feel Everywhere)
Aug 18, 2025
Episode 203: Exploring Joyce’s Career Path: Twists, Turns, and Boyfriends
Aug 11, 2025
Episode 202: Assessment Grit: Knowing Before Doing
Aug 04, 2025
Episode 201: The Power of “I Want…”
Jul 28, 2025
Episode 200: Episode 200 – Time to Reflect, Celebrate, and Appreciate
Jul 21, 2025
Episode 199: Thriving in Chaos: It's Happening to All of Us
Jul 09, 2025
Episode 198: Michelle Griffin Ph.D.: Building a Business and a Life That Works
Jul 02, 2025
Episode 197: 🎙 Resiliency Face-Off, Part 2: Spoiler—Ours Wins
Jun 24, 2025
Episode 196: The Resilience Face-Off: Street Smarts Meets Sloan MIT Smarts
Jun 09, 2025
Episode 195: Flugidity Revisited: Why We’re Still Talking About Structure vs. Flexibility Back by popular demand… or maybe just our own curiosity.
Jun 03, 2025
Episode 194: Tight Ship or Jazz Band? Finding Balance in Today’s Workplace
May 22, 2025
Episode 193: Beyond Ping Pong Tables: How to Build a Culture of Care
May 09, 2025
Episode 192: The Chosen Few: A Talent Strategy That’s Holding You Back
May 02, 2025
Episode 191: Creating Islands of Sanity in the Chaos – Part 2
Apr 24, 2025
Episode 190: Getting Unstuck with Ernesto Gómez Arzapalo – OD Expert, Author, Academic, Entrepreneur... and All-Around Great Human
Apr 14, 2025
Episode 189: Letting Employees Go – Do It Right or Pay the Price
Mar 28, 2025
Episode 188: OD Challenge: Who Do We Choose to Be?
Mar 21, 2025
Episode 187: Where Science Meets OD Practice – A Conversation with Dr. Rob Lion
Mar 12, 2025
Episode 186: Brace for Impact: How to Survive Workplace Change
Mar 05, 2025
Episode 185: Speaking Up or Staying Silent? Leadership in a Polarized World
Feb 25, 2025
Episode 184: Lead with Intention: Make Every Moment Count
Feb 17, 2025
Episode 183: Lead Like a Person, Not a Position - A Conversation with Mark Carpenter
Feb 11, 2025
Episode 182: Rethinking Leadership: The 5 Must-have Qualities for Today’s World
Feb 03, 2025
Episode 181: Blue Collar Power From the Ground Up – A Conversation with Ryan Englin
Jan 24, 2025
Episode 180: Managing Without Power – A conversation with Joris Merks-Benjaminsen
Jan 17, 2025
Episode 179: 2025 - The Year of Doing Something! (Some will work, others won’t)
Jan 08, 2025
Episode 178: This Podcast: A Refuge for Inspiration and Recharging
Dec 30, 2024
Episode 177: Bittersweet Tidings: The paradox of Holiday Cheer
Dec 23, 2024
Episode 176: Honoring OD/HR: The Legacy We Leave Behind
Dec 16, 2024
Episode 175: Workplace Connection – The Cure for Loneliness
Dec 09, 2024
Episode 174: DEI 2.0: Reinventing Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion
Dec 05, 2024
Episode 173: TeamSpeak: Unlocking Potential Through Dialogue
Nov 26, 2024
Episode 172: What Keeps Us ‘All In’ Despite Life’s Curveballs
Nov 15, 2024
Episode 171: The X Factor in Leadership
Nov 07, 2024
Episode 170: Getting Unstuck When Rules & Norms No Longer Apply
Oct 30, 2024
Episode 169: What Makes a Great CEO? (It's Not What You May Think)
Oct 22, 2024
Episode 168: A Conversation with Corey Spitzer – Humble Start-up Guru & Sausage Maker
Oct 08, 2024
Episode 167: Lessons from Fender Bender Entrepreneurs
Sep 27, 2024
Episode 166: The Antidote to Dull Thinking
Sep 14, 2024
Episode 165: CEO Flaws and Flubs
Sep 05, 2024
Episode 164: Getting from Checked Out to All In
Aug 27, 2024
Episode 163: The Goal-Setting Conundrum
Aug 14, 2024
Episode 162: Be Someone Worth Following
Aug 03, 2024
Episode 161: Company Culture – Making the Invisible Seen
Jul 26, 2024
Episode 160: Essential OD Values
Jul 18, 2024
Episode 159: Stuff That Irritates Us – Part 2
Jul 12, 2024
Episode 158: Stuff That Irritates Us
Jun 27, 2024
Episode 157: People Analytics Is More Than Just Data – A Conversation with Andrea Derler
Jun 20, 2024
Episode 156: The Power and Irritation of a Good Question
Jun 13, 2024
Episode 155: The Magic of Self-Organizing Communities
May 31, 2024
Episode 154: The Power of Setting Work Norms
May 22, 2024
Episode 153: Leading Big Change: CIO Insights with Terry Morgan
May 13, 2024
Episode 152: Navigating Big Change: Principles Every Leader Should Know
May 05, 2024
Episode 151: Deep Leadership – An Interview with Jon Rennie
Apr 18, 2024
Episode 150: Avoiding the Slippery Slope
Apr 15, 2024
Episode 149: Just Say Yes!
Apr 03, 2024
Episode 148: Go South Young Man - Baptism by Fire
Mar 29, 2024
Episode 147: Why We Do This...
Mar 21, 2024
Episode 146: I'm Exhausted...What About You?
Mar 12, 2024
Episode 145: Building Resilience Amidst Workplace Chaos
Feb 27, 2024
Episode 144: The Discomfort of Learning Something New
Feb 22, 2024
Episode 143: The Courage of Being a Third-Party Facilitator
Feb 12, 2024
Episode 142: Addressing Cynicism in the Workplace
Feb 05, 2024
Episode 141: Transforming How Work Gets Done
Jan 30, 2024
Episode 140: Beyond Crucial Conversations–Advice on Leveraging Differences in the Room
Jan 22, 2024
Episode 139: What Workers Want From Their Leader
Jan 08, 2024
Episode 138: What Are You Willing to be Measured on in 2024?
Jan 03, 2024
Episode 137: Let 'er Rip! Let’s Celebrate Every Holiday Tradition
Dec 18, 2023
Episode 136: What’s Your Cranberry Ice?
Dec 11, 2023
Episode 135: The Power of Here and Now Revisited
Nov 27, 2023
Episode 134: The Power of Here and Now
Nov 20, 2023
Episode 133: Women at Work – Then and Now
Nov 13, 2023
Episode 132: Designing Work That Works
Nov 03, 2023
Episode 131: When Being Fair Doesn't Work
Oct 24, 2023
Episode 130: Cross Cultural Clash Food Fight
Oct 17, 2023
Episode 129: Unplugged and Wide Open
Oct 11, 2023
Episode 128: Why Do We Do Bob'nJoyce?
Oct 02, 2023
Episode 127: Maximizing Your Most Important Asset - Your People
Sep 25, 2023
Episode 126: Cultivating a Learning Organization - Part 2
Sep 19, 2023
Episode 125: Cultivating a Learning Organization
Sep 05, 2023
Episode 124: The Super Power of Solitude
Aug 30, 2023
Episode 123: How the Mighty Fall
Aug 21, 2023
Episode 122: Imposter Syndrome – The Fear of Being Found Out
Aug 14, 2023
Episode 121: Life Lessons From Maria Popova
Aug 03, 2023
Episode 120: Designing Effective Meetings
Aug 01, 2023
Episode 119: HR Policies That Work
Jul 28, 2023
Episode 118: Why Middle Managers Matter
Jul 17, 2023
Episode 117: Guide to Becoming a Great Interviewer
Jul 10, 2023
Episode 116: The Audacity of Hope
Jun 26, 2023
Episode 115: With Mixed Feelings, We Approach the Topic of Performance Management One More Time
Jun 12, 2023
Episode 114: When Leadership Checks Out
Jun 01, 2023
Episode 113: The Murky Middle
May 24, 2023
Episode 112: No Small Talk Here!
May 15, 2023
Episode 111: Unraveling Compensation Practices – A Conversation with Mike Strout
May 04, 2023
Episode 110: Big Bad Bosses
Apr 28, 2023
Episode 109: The Compensation Quagmire: Part 1
Apr 17, 2023
Episode 108: The Leap to Becoming a Top Executive
Apr 05, 2023
Episode 107: Two Magical Words – “Good Job”
Mar 29, 2023
Episode 106: A Great DEI Conversation with Eric Watson
Mar 17, 2023
Episode 105: Downsizing is Here to Stay
Mar 13, 2023
Episode 104: DEI – A Lot of Talk, Not Enough Action
Mar 03, 2023
Episode 103: Being a Good Boss
Feb 27, 2023
Episode 102: Performance Reviews That Excite
Feb 16, 2023
Episode 101: Thriving in Chaos and Uncertainty
Feb 10, 2023
Episode 100: Adiós, I’m Out of Here!
Feb 02, 2023
Episode 99: Diversity Interventions That Work
Jan 25, 2023
Episode 98: A Conversation with Pete Durand, Serial Entrepreneur and CEO, Cruxible Partners
Jan 20, 2023
Episode 97: Getting Clear and Setting Intentions (PART 2)
Jan 13, 2023
Episode 96: Getting Clear and Setting Intentions
Jan 06, 2023
Episode 95: Rethinking Rituals to Meet the Moment
Dec 29, 2022
Episode 94: Rethinking HR/OD Conventional Wisdom
Dec 21, 2022
Episode 93: Developing Supervisory Judgment
Dec 07, 2022
Episode 92: I Pray Anyway, Devotions for the Ambivalent
Nov 28, 2022
Episode 91: Rethinking CEO Succession
Nov 16, 2022
Episode 90: Quiet Quitting - Why We Disagree
Nov 10, 2022
Episode 89: Promoting an Entrepreneurial Spirit
Nov 03, 2022
Episode 88: The Death of Performance Appraisals – Part 2
Oct 26, 2022
Episode 87: Death of Performance Appraisals
Oct 19, 2022
Episode 86: The Merit of Giving Up
Oct 14, 2022
Episode 85: Lessons from Gallup on Workplace Unhappiness
Oct 06, 2022
Episode 84: Emerging OD – Are We Ready? Part 2
Sep 27, 2022
Episode 83: Emerging OD – Are We Ready?
Sep 22, 2022
Episode 82: Pushing Through Overwhelm
Sep 14, 2022
Episode 81: Leading from Where You Are
Sep 07, 2022
Episode 80: Gallup Poll – Engaging Wisdom
Aug 31, 2022
Episode 79: Slowing Down to Speed Up
Aug 23, 2022
Episode 78: OD/HR Steps Out of the Shadows
Aug 17, 2022
Episode 77: Re-upping Our Commitment To This Work
Aug 10, 2022
Episode 76: Letting People Go – Organizational Moment of Truth
Aug 03, 2022
Episode 75: The Importance of Organizational Rituals
Jul 20, 2022
Episode 74: HR's Bad Rap
Jul 12, 2022
Episode 73: HR - Who Are We?
Jul 06, 2022
Episode 72: 2022 Culture Change Work – Soothing, Uncomfortable And Needed
Jun 28, 2022
Episode 71: Baptism by Fire – Part Two
Jun 21, 2022
Episode 70: Bold Moves, Cringe-worthy Moments, and Chronic Curiosity
Jun 14, 2022
Episode 69: Baptism by Fire – A Story about Accelerated Learning
Jun 07, 2022
Episode 68: Being Present – A Gift for You and Others
May 31, 2022
Episode 67: Winning the Battle for Talent
May 24, 2022
Episode 66: Managing External OD/HR Consultants
May 17, 2022
Episode 65: To Disrupt – OD’s Ultimate Purpose
May 10, 2022
Episode 64: A Show About Nothing
May 05, 2022
Episode 63: A Time to Be Bold and Courageous
Apr 27, 2022
Episode 62: The Burnout Pandemic and What OD/HR Can Do
Apr 05, 2022
Episode 61: Lead Like You Own It - Lessons from Entrepreneurs
Mar 24, 2022
Episode 60: Fully Human Leadership – A Deeper Dive
Mar 17, 2022
Episode 59: Fully Human Leadership – A New Model for Leading
Mar 07, 2022
Episode 58: Informed Consultant – OD Sherpa
Feb 25, 2022
Episode 57: We Doth Protest Too Much – Being a Credible Strategist
Feb 15, 2022
Episode 56: OD Obi-Wan Kenobi
Feb 08, 2022
Episode 55: Efficient Designer. What the Heck is This?
Feb 03, 2022
Episode 54: How OD Makes Organizations Work Better – System Change Expert
Jan 27, 2022
Episode 53: Going Behind the OD Curtain – How We Do What We Do
Jan 21, 2022
Episode 52: Being Fully Human Goes Mainstream
Jan 11, 2022
Episode 51: The New Normal: Living with Covid
Jan 04, 2022
Episode 50: Uncertainty’s Best Antidote - Shining the Light
Dec 28, 2021
Episode 49: Confronting Conflict – An Emerging HR/OD Competency
Dec 21, 2021
Episode 48: Creating a New Normal - What Stays and What Goes?
Dec 16, 2021
Episode 47: Riding a Bike is Easy, Sustaining Change Is Not
Dec 07, 2021
Episode 46: Caution Ahead – Navigating the Perils of Adult Learning
Dec 02, 2021
Episode 45: Lessons From Eating Popcorn – The Perfect Comfort Food
Nov 23, 2021
Episode 44: When Work Works – Merits of a Large Organization
Nov 18, 2021
Episode 43: Why Employee Benefits Matter Now More Than Ever
Nov 10, 2021
Episode 42: Asking “What if…” – A Powerful Idea Generator
Nov 02, 2021
Episode 41: HR/OD’s Duty to Speak Truth to Power
Oct 26, 2021
Episode 40: Overcoming Burnout - An Interview with Joe Doty
Oct 18, 2021
Episode 39: 7 Smart Strategies for Self-Management in Tough Times
Oct 11, 2021
Episode 38: Nobody Likes Pain - Especially Organizational Pain
Sep 28, 2021
Episode 37: Let’s Get Goofy – The Power of Humor
Sep 21, 2021
Episode 36: All Things HR
Sep 14, 2021
Episode 35: A Conversation with John Vegas on HR/OD's Impact
Sep 07, 2021
Episode 34: See Your Blind Spots (or Else)
Aug 31, 2021
Episode 33: Mentoring – A Catalyst for Development
Aug 24, 2021
Episode 32: Workplace Reinvention – An Opportunity
Aug 17, 2021
Episode 31: The Role of Third-Party Facilitation in HR/OD
Aug 10, 2021
Episode 30: College Recruiting – An Innovative Approach with Extraordinary Results
Aug 03, 2021
Episode 29: Stepping Into the Unknown
Jul 27, 2021
Episode 28: Why Leaders Need To Be More Curious
Jul 20, 2021
Episode 27: Hats Off to HR/OD Heroes
Jul 13, 2021
Episode 26: Managing Versus Leading
Jul 06, 2021
Episode 25: Making Lemonade from Lemons - Creating Good From Nothing
Jun 29, 2021
Episode 24: Hire Right or Else
Jun 22, 2021
Episode 23: Guided Imagery – A Powerful Alignment/Visioning Tool
Jun 15, 2021
Episode 22: Confronting Burnout as HR/OD Professionals
Jun 08, 2021
Episode 21: Seeing Through the Bramble of Internal OD Work
Jun 01, 2021
Episode 20: Our Turn - Common HR/OD Flaws and Why They Matter
May 25, 2021
Episode 19: CEO Flaws and Why They Matter
May 18, 2021
Episode 18: Culture – An Invisible Power
May 11, 2021
Episode 17: Honor Thy Managers
May 03, 2021
Episode 16: 10 Criteria for a CEO/OD Partnership to do Bold Work Together
Apr 28, 2021
Episode 15: Managing the Discomfort of Transition
Apr 20, 2021
Episode 14: Meeting Magic and Gaffes
Apr 13, 2021
Episode 13: Following Your Energy – It Never Disappoints
Apr 06, 2021
Episode 12: 2021 Leadership Reimagined
Mar 30, 2021
Episode 11: The Performance Management Dilemma
Mar 23, 2021
Episode 10: Hacks and Hiccups - Part 2
Mar 18, 2021
Episode 9: Hacks and Hiccups
Mar 02, 2021
Episode 8: In the Quagmire
Feb 23, 2021
Episode 7: Unexpected Details Matter
Feb 16, 2021
Episode 6: Learning Groups – Part 2 – Interview with Scott Harrison
Feb 09, 2021
Episode 5: Learning Groups - A Switch From Training to Learning
Feb 02, 2021
Episode 4: Power Shift - Embracing small 'd' democracy
Jan 26, 2021
Episode 3: HR OD Approaches to Dealing With Trauma
Jan 12, 2021
Episode 2: Remembering Katherine Maxim Greenleaf – An HR/OD Leader Who Inspired
Dec 31, 2020
Episode 1: Hooked on OD
Nov 24, 2020
Episode 00: Who are Bob 'n Joyce?
Nov 10, 2020
Episode 0: Welcome to the Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD Podcast!
Nov 09, 2020