That Said With Michael Zeldin

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CommPRO and the Museum of Public Relations proudly present That Said With Michael Zeldin. That Said, is a weekly series that takes a comprehensive look at the ideas, events, and people who shape our world. Led by TV legal and political analyst Michael Zeldin, his candid conversations with bestselling authors, thought leaders, and opinion-makers explore their ideas to help move us forward as a community and as a country.


Episode Date
A Conversation with Jennet Conant, Author, 'Fierce Ambition: The Life and Legend of War Correspondent Maggie Higgins'
May 11, 2024
A Conversation with Fareed Zakaria, Author, 'Age of Revolutions: Progress and Backlash from 1600 to the Present'
May 03, 2024
A Conversation with Saket Soni, Author, ‘The Great Escape: A True Story of Forced Labor and Immigrant Dreams in America’
Apr 26, 2024
A Conversation with Rachel Slade, Author, ' Making it in America, The Almost Impossible Quest to Manufacture in the U.S.A. (and How It Got That Way)'
Apr 18, 2024
A Conversation with Jeffrey Rosen, Author, 'The Pursuit of Happiness: How Classical Writers on Virtue Inspired the Lives of the Founders and Defined America'
Mar 28, 2024
A Conversation with Martha McPhee, Author, 'Omega Farm'
Mar 21, 2024
A Conversation with Janet Wallach, Author, ‘Flirting with Danger: The Mysterious Life of Marguerite Harrison, Socialite Spy’
Mar 14, 2024
A Conversation with Katie Couric, Author, 'Going There'
Mar 07, 2024
A Conversation with Steven Ujifusa, Author, ‘The Last Ships from Hamburg: Business, Rivalry, and The Race to Save Russia’s Jews on the Eve of World War I’
Feb 29, 2024
A Conversation with Fergus Bordewich, Author, 'Klan War: Ulysses S. Grant and the Battle to Save Reconstruction'
Feb 22, 2024
A Conversation with Dave Kindred, Author, 'My Home Team: A Sportswriter’s Life and the Redemptive Power of Small-Town Girls Basketball'
Feb 16, 2024
Doug Melville's Journey from 'Invisible Generals' to Leading DEI Initiatives
Feb 08, 2024
A Conversation with Professor Ed Ayers, Author, ‘American Visions, The United States, 1800-1860’
Feb 01, 2024
A Conversation with Scott Eyman, Author, "Charlie Chaplin vs. America, When Art, Sex, and Politics Collided"
Jan 25, 2024
A Conversation with Dr. Sanjay Gupta, Author, 'Keep Sharp: Build a Better Brain at any Age'
Jan 18, 2024
A Conversation with Jane Fox, Author, 'The Hungry Mother: Recipes for Recovery and Life in the Kitchen'
Jan 11, 2024
A Conversation with Oliver Franklin-Wallis, Author, 'Wasteland: The Secret World of Waste and the Urgent Search for a Cleaner Future'
Nov 09, 2023
A Conversation with Sally Jenkins, Author, 'The Right Call: What Sports Teach Us About Work and Life'
Nov 03, 2023
A Conversation with Prof. Laurel Leff, Author, 'Well Worth Saving: American Universities’ Life-and-Death Decisions of Refugees from Nazi Europe'
Oct 26, 2023
A Conversation with Heather Hendershot, Author, 'When the News Broke: Chicago 1968 and the Polarizing of America'
Oct 20, 2023
A Conversation with Michael Finkel, Author, 'The Art Thief: A True Story of Love, Crime and a Dangerous Obsession'
Oct 12, 2023
A Conversation with the writers and directors of the film Airplane! on their new book, Surely You Can’t Be Serious: The True Story Of Airplane!
Oct 06, 2023
A Conversation with Professor Heather Cox Richardson, Author, 'Democracy Awakening: Notes on the State of America'
Sep 27, 2023
A Conversation with Steve Drummond, Author, 'The Watchdog: How the Truman Committee Battled Corruption and Helped Win World War Two'
Jul 30, 2023
A Conversation with Rachel Louise Martin, PhD, Author, 'A Most Tolerant Little Town: The Explosive Beginning of School Desegregation'
Jul 17, 2023
A Conversation with Paul Kix, Author, You Have to be Prepared to Die Before you can Begin to Live: Ten Weeks in Birmingham that Changed America
Jun 26, 2023
A Conversation with Jeffrey Toobin, Author, Homegrown: Timothy McVeigh and the Rise of Right-Wing Extremism
Jun 12, 2023
A Conversation with Joan Biskupic, Author, 'Nine Black Robes: Inside the Supreme Court’s Drive to the Right and its Historic Consequences'
May 30, 2023
A Conversation with Mehdi Hasan, Author, Win Every Argument: The Art of Debating, Persuading, and Public Speaking.
May 19, 2023
Remembering Gary Oelze: A Conversation with Stephen Moore, Co-Author, All Roads Lead to the Birchmere.
May 08, 2023
A Conversation with Mark Whitaker, Author, Saying It Loud: 1966-The Year Black Power Challenged the Civil Rights Movement
Apr 28, 2023
A Conversation with Alexander Rose, Author, The Lion and the Fox:Two Rival Spies and the Secret Plot to Build a Confederate Navy
Mar 27, 2023
A Conversation with Sammi Katz, Co-author, ‘Cocktails in Color: A Spirited Guide to the Art and Joy of Drinkmaking’
Mar 17, 2023
A Conversation with Patrick Bringley, Author, All the Beauty in the World: The Metropolitan Museum of Art and Me. With Special Guest Professor Philip Eliasoph
Mar 10, 2023
A Conversation with Rachael Bade and Karoun Demirjian, and Congress' Botched Impeachments of Donald Trump, Part II
Mar 02, 2023
A Conversation with Rachael Bade and Karoun Demirjian, Authors, 'Unchecked: The Untold Story Behind Congress's Botched Impeachments of Donald Trump'
Feb 22, 2023
A Conversation with Ann Hagedorn, Author, 'Sleeper Agent: The Atomic Spy in America Who Got Away'
Feb 08, 2023
A Conversation with Carl Bernstein, Author, ‘Chasing History: A Kid in the Newsroom’(Part lI of ll)
Feb 01, 2023
A Conversation with Carl Bernstein, Author, ‘Chasing History: A Kid in the Newsroom’(Part l of ll)
Jan 26, 2023
A Conversation with Nina Totenberg, Author, ‘Dinners with Ruth: A Memoir on the Power of Friendships’
Jan 11, 2023
A Conversation with Dr. Catherine Musemeche, Author, ‘Lethal Tides: Mary Sears and the Marine Scientists Who Helped Win World War II’
Dec 18, 2022
A Conversation with Adam Hochschild, Author, ‘American Midnight: The Great War, A Violent Peace and Democracy’s Forgotten Crisis’
Nov 30, 2022
A Conversation with Molly Ball, Author, Pelosi
Nov 18, 2022
A Conversation with Hugh Eakin, Author, ‘Picasso’s War; How Modern Art Came to America.’ With Special Guest Professor Philip Eliasoph
Nov 10, 2022
A Conversation with Jeff Nussbaum, Author, ‘Undelivered: The Never-heard Speeches that would have Rewritten History’
Oct 28, 2022
A Conversation with Cody Keenan, Author, ‘Grace: President Obama and Ten Days in the Battle for America’
Oct 22, 2022
A Conversation with A.J. Baime, Author, ‘Dewey Defeats Truman: The 1948 Election and the Battle for America’s Soul’
Sep 28, 2022
A Conversation with A.J. Baime, Author, ‘White Lies: The Double Life of Walter F. White and America’s Darkest Secret’
Sep 19, 2022
A Conversation with Sandy Greenberg about his memoir, ‘Hello Darkness, My Old Friend, How Daring Dreams and Unyielding Friendship Turned One Man’s Blindness Into An Extraordinary Vision For Life’
Aug 01, 2022
A Conversation with Hawa Allan Author, ‘Insurrection: Rebellion, Civil Rights, and the Paradoxical State of Black Citizenship’
Jul 26, 2022
A Conversation with Michael Ian Black, Author, ‘A Better Man, A Mostly Serious Letter to my Son’
Jul 19, 2022
A Conversation with EJ Dionne and Miles Rapoport, Authors, ‘Democracy, The Case for Universal Voting’
Jul 12, 2022
A Conversation with Daisy Pitkin, Author, On the Line, A Story of Class, Solidarity, and Two Women’s Epic Fight to Build a Union & Special Guest, Jeff Grabelsky, Associate Director of the Worker Institute at Cornell, Industrial Labor Relations Sc
Jun 30, 2022
A Conversation with MSNBC’s Katy Tur, Author, ‘Rough Draft’
Jun 20, 2022
A Conversation with Garrett M. Graff, Author, ‘Watergate: A New History’
Jun 01, 2022
A Conversation with CNN’s David Gergen, Author, ‘Hearts Touched with Fire, How Great Leaders are Made’
May 25, 2022
A Conversation with Stefan Koldehoff and Tobias Timm, Authors, ‘Art and Crime, The Fight Against Looters, Forgers, and Fraudsters in the High-Stakes Art World’ with Special Guest Professor Philip Eliasoph
May 18, 2022
A Conversation with Jeffrey Veidlinger, Author, ‘The Pogroms of 1918-1921 and the Onset of the Holocaust’
May 14, 2022
A Conversation with Anna Malaika Tubbs, Author, ‘The Three Mothers: How the Mothers of Martin Luther King, Jr., Malcolm X, and James Baldwin Shaped a Nation’
Apr 29, 2022
A Conversation with Matti Friedman, Author, ‘Who By Fire, Leonard Cohen in the Sinai’
Apr 20, 2022
A Conversation with Harvard Professor Tomiko Brown-Nagin, Author, ‘Civil Rights Queen: Constance Baker Motley and the Struggle for Equality’
Mar 31, 2022
A Conversation with Muriel Fox, Co-Founder of the National Organization For Women (NOW)
Mar 23, 2022
A Conversation with Erin L. Thompson, Author, ‘Smashing Statues: The Rise and Fall of America’s Public Monuments’
Mar 16, 2022
A Conversation with Julian Zelizer, Author, ‘Abraham Joshua Heschel, A Life of Radical Amazement’
Mar 09, 2022
A Conversation with John Avlon, Author, ‘Lincoln and the Fight for Peace’
Mar 01, 2022
A Conversation with Dante Stewart, Author, ‘Shouting In The Fire, An American Epistle’
Feb 16, 2022
A Conversation with Brian Karem, Author, FREE THE PRESS: THE DEATH OF AMERICAN JOURNALISM AND HOW TO REVIVE IT
Feb 02, 2022
A Conversation with Allison Moorer, Author, ‘I Dreamed He Talks to Me, A Memoir of Listening How to Listen’
Jan 26, 2022
A Conversation with Professor Farah Jasmine Griffin, Author, ‘Read Until You Understand, The Profound Wisdom of Black Life and Literature’
Jan 19, 2022
A Conversation with The Honorable Judge LaDoris Hazzard Cordell, Author, ‘Her Honor, My Life on the Bench…What’s Broken and How to Change It’
Jan 12, 2022
A Conversation with Michael Tubbs, Author, ‘The Deeper the Roots, A Memoir of Hope and Home.’
Dec 23, 2021
A Conversation with Dara Horn, Author, ‘People Love Dead Jews, Reports from a Haunted Present’
Dec 15, 2021
A Conversation with Michael Ignatieff, Author, ‘On Consolation: Finding Solace in Dark Times’
Dec 08, 2021
A Conversation with Kirsten Powers, Author, ‘Saving Grace: Speak Your Truth, Stay Centered, Learn to Coexist with People Who Drive You Nuts’
Nov 17, 2021
A Conversation with CNN’s Dr. Sanjay Gupta, Author, ‘World War C: Lessons from the Covid-19 Pandemic and How to Prepare for the Next One
Nov 10, 2021
A Conversation with Andrea Williams, Author, ‘Baseball’s Leading Lady: Effa Manley and the Rise and Fall of the Negro Leagues’ & Special Guest, Bob Kendrick, President of the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum
Nov 03, 2021
A Conversation with Stevie Van Zandt, Author, ‘Unrequited Infatuations’
Oct 26, 2021
Breast Cancer Awareness Month Special Edition with Ali Rogin and Dr. Felice Gersh
Oct 21, 2021
A Conversation with Luke Epplin, Author, ‘Our Team: The Epic Story of Four Men and the World Series that Changed Baseball’
Oct 13, 2021
A Conversation with David W. Blight, Sterling Professor of American History at Yale University
Oct 04, 2021
PART TWO: A Conversation with Jason Miller, Communications Strategist and Former Trump Spokesman on the 2020 Presidential Election, the Big Lie, and the Events of January 6th
Sep 29, 2021
PART ONE: A Conversation with Jason Miller, CEO of the Social Media Company GETTR, on Issues of Free Speech and Social Media Censorship
Sep 22, 2021
Season One Finale: A Conversation with Max Weinberg, Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame drummer from Bruce Springsteen’s E Street Band
Aug 31, 2021
A Conversation with Professor Eddie S. Glaude, Jr., Author, ‘Begin Again, James Baldwin’s America and Its Urgent Lessons for Our Own’
Aug 19, 2021
A Conversation with Philip Rucker and Carol Leonnig, Authors, ‘I Alone Can Fix It, Donald J. Trump’s Catastrophic Final Year’
Aug 12, 2021
A Conversation with Dan Abrams Author, ‘Kennedy’s Avenger: Assassination, Conspiracy, and the Forgotten Trial of Jack Ruby’
Aug 04, 2021
A Conversation with April Ryan, Author, ‘At Mama’s Knee, Mothers and Race in Black and White’
Jul 30, 2021
A Conversation with Julian Zelizer, Author, ‘Burning Down the House: Newt Gingrich, The Fall of a Speaker, And the Rise of the New Republican Party’
Jul 16, 2021
A Conversation with CNN Legal Analyst Asha Rangappa and MSNBC Legal Analyst Glenn Kirschner
Jul 13, 2021
A Conversation with Beatriz Williams, Author, ‘Our Woman in Moscow’
Jul 07, 2021
A Conversation with Daniel James Brown, Author, ‘Facing the Mountain: A True Story of Japanese American Heroes in World War II’
Jun 28, 2021
A Conversation with Don Lemon, CNN Anchor, on His New Book, ‘This Is The Fire: What I Say to My Friends About Racism’
Jun 19, 2021
PART II – A Conversation with Brian Stelter on His Best-Seller, ‘HOAX: Donald Trump, Fox News, and the Dangerous Distortion of Truth’
Jun 16, 2021
PART I – A Conversation with Brian Stelter on His Best-Seller, ‘HOAX: Donald Trump, Fox News, and the Dangerous Distortion of Truth’
Jun 10, 2021
A Conversation with CNN’s Jake Tapper, Author, ‘The Devil May Dance’
Jun 02, 2021
A Conversation with Gayle Tzemach Lemmon, Author, ‘The Daughters of Kobani’
May 19, 2021
A Conversation with Peter Baker & Susan Glasser – Authors of “The Man Who Ran Washington: the Life and Times of James Baker III”
May 12, 2021
A Conversation with Anna Sale, Author, “Let’s Talk About Hard Things”
May 05, 2021
A Conversation with Bakari Sellers, Author, “My Vanishing Country: A Memoir”
Apr 28, 2021
A Conversation with Mark Salter, Author of “The Luckiest Man: Life with John McCain”
Apr 19, 2021
A Conversation with Professor Michael Gerhardt, Author of “Lincoln’s Mentors: The Education of a Leader”
Apr 14, 2021
A Conversation with Ron Brownstein, Senior Editor at The Atlantic, Senior Political Analyst for CNN & Author of “Rock Me on the Water”
Apr 05, 2021
A Conversation with Jennifer Ho, President of the Association for Asian American Studies (Podcast & On-Demand Video)
Mar 27, 2021
Choose to Challenge… A Conversation with Aisha C. Mills, Political Commentator (SPECIAL EPISODE)
Mar 16, 2021
Jim Acosta, Guest –That Said with Michael Zeldin
Mar 03, 2021
John Dean, Guest –That Said with Michael Zeldin
Feb 24, 2021
Michael Steele, Guest –That Said with Michael Zeldin
Feb 17, 2021
Presidential Historian Douglas Brinkley, Guest – That Said with Michael Zeldin
Feb 11, 2021
The Trump Impeachment Trial: The Case For and Against Conviction
Feb 02, 2021
Impeach, Indict, Heal? A Discussion of Post-Trump Washington
Jan 28, 2021
Analyzing Trump’s Second Impeachment with Congressman Eric Swalwell & Professor Michael J. Gerhardt
Jan 19, 2021
Dan Balz, Guest – That Said With Michael Zeldin
Jan 12, 2021