Join us on Art Ladders, the Creative Climb, where we explore the inspiring journeys of artists and uncover the wisdom they've gained along the way. In each episode, hosts Valerie Allen and Armin Mersmann delve into the creative processes, challenges, and triumphs of artists. They interject their own experiences in their “coffee talk” style episodes between the two of them. Once a month, Val and Armin choose an artist to interview in an informal and conversational style. Discover practical advice, motivational stories, and the importance of community and persistence in the art world.