DeFi Decoded

By with Alex Tapscott & Andrew Young

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Alex Tapscott, Andrew Young and guests break down the fundamentals of Decentralized Finance (DeFi) and how this cutting edge technology enables individuals and institutions to transact, and create value, without the need for traditional financial intermediaries.

Episode Date
DeFi Decoded - Bridge Over Troubled Water? Assessing the Nomad Hack, ETH Merger Mania and Macro Update

On today's episode, Alex and Andrew discuss the latest DeFi exploit - a hack of the Nomad "bridge." But first, what's a bridge? What problem does it solve? Do these exploits prove bridges are unfeasible or are they simply implementation challenges to overcome. DeFi boosters talk about dApps and digital assets as being composable, like interlocking LEGO pieces. But we're not dealing with one uniform form factor - DeFi isn't a box of Lego but a mixed bag of Lego, Duplo, Mechanix, and others. How do we figure out a way to get these pieces to click together? Plus we dig into the Ethereum Merge and do a quick macro update.

Aug 03, 2022
DeFi Decoded - Building Your Way Through the Bear Market, with Solana Co-founder Anatoly Yakovenko

Solana (SOL) typified the explosive growth of crypto and blockchain in 2021. A new blockchain protocol with a novel and ingenious design, Solana was able to attract thousands of developers and millions of users to an application ecosystem that started with DeFi but diversified into NFTs, Gamefi and beyond. At its peak, Solana was worth $90 billion USD. And while crypto prices have cooled, the thesis for Web3 remains intact and the future of Web3 on Solana looks bright.  

On this week’s episode, Anatoly explains how Solana’s birth in the bear market of 2018-2019 helps explain its success today. He talks about how a relentless focus on developers has set the protocol up for success. He also tells us how despite the dip in prices, developer activity has been higher recently than during the bull market. Finally we talk about how Solana’s smart phone might be the key to unlocking a crypto-native app store and bringing hundreds of millions of people into Web3.  

This episode ended up running 45 minutes and we could have gone much longer. Strongly encourage you to check it out! 

Jul 27, 2022
DeFi Decoded - What do the next 12 months in crypto look like? With Jake Hannah, co-founder of SX Network

On this week's episode of DeFi Decoded, Jake Hannah of SX Network steps in to help SX co-founder Andrew co-host the podcast while Alex is out fishing in Northern Canada. Jake and Andrew cover everything, starting with what the betting markets are saying about the Fed interest rate decision. They also cover the current betting market's view on the probability that Ethereum's highly anticipated "Merge" will actually happen in September. Jake shares what he thinks the best sector of the crypto asset economy will be, how the crypto market will perform over the next 12 months, and how Ethereum's "merge" will affect its tokenomics. Jake and Andrew cover a number of other issues such as whether there's any spillover left from 3AC's collapse, and whether USDC will usurp Tether as the largest stablecoin. Check it out, as you won't want to miss two crypto experts give their takes on the future of crypto.

Jul 21, 2022
DeFi Decoded - Dickson Nsofor, CEO of Korapay, on building a New Pan-African Financial System with Blockchain

"It's faster to drive money from Nigeria to Ghana than it is to send a wire transfer because with a wire, the money must first go to New York, and then London before coming back to Africa" says Dickson Nsofor, identifying one of many absurd examples of how the global financial system fails African countries, businesses and individuals. This is the problem and opportunity Dickson identified four years ago when he launched Korapay, a Pan-African payment infrastructure company using APIs for payment collections, disbursements, and conversions for businesses anywhere in Africa. Underneath it all are cryptoasset payment rails like Bitcoin and USDC. For him, blockchain is like electricity, unseen but essential to everything. On this episode of DeFi Decoded, Alex and Dickson discuss how blockchain is connecting Africa to the world.

Jul 13, 2022
DeFi Decoded - Be Greedy When Others are Fearful? Plus The Sovereign Individual and the Networked State

On this week's episode of DeFi Decoded, Alex and Andrew try to put the crypto correction in the context of an increasingly complex and muddled global macro picture. Bitcoin failed its test as an inflation hedge, but will the spectre of global recession push it lower, or can it catch a bid and resume its status as uncorrelated asset in a secular bull market? Plus, they discuss (hopefully for the last time) the enduring fallout from 3 Arrows Capital blowing up. Finally, they talk about the new book The Networked State and its rooting in the cypherpunk classic The Sovereign Individual. Will crypto sweep away old industrial age models for governance and economic coordination and usher in a new era of organizations and even nations? Tune in to find out!

Jul 07, 2022
DeFi Decoded - How DeFi Has Survived the Crypto Carnage (So Far)

Centralized, custodial, opaque, and laden with risk. This describes some of the crypto lending outfits currently teetering on the brink of insolvency. By contrast, most DeFi protocols, which automatically connect willing market participants peer to peer using smart contracts, have continued to operate smoothly through the crisis, though they have seen their assets (known as total value locked or TVL) and user activity drop quite precipitously. As Andrew and Alex discuss on this week's podcast, DeFi will survive this crisis, but centralized crypto banks and other shadow lenders may not. 

Jun 30, 2022
DeFi Decoded - What the Panic of 1907 Can Teach Us About the Current Crypto Rout

On today's episode of DeFi Decoded, Alex and Andrew discuss the efforts of Sam Bankman Fried, or SBF, who has swooped in to stabilize the industry, ask whether its ok that all these firms fail and ponder the question of what the industry will look like when this rout is over.

Jun 23, 2022
DeFi Decoded - Crypto Has Been Sus lately, But Long-Term Fundamentals are Bussin' so Scoop the Dip Fam, Fr Fr, On God

In honor of DeFi Decoded joining Tik Tok, we bring you this special Gen-Z titled episode (clearly written by Alex, an old millennial, aka Boomer, hence the cringe). Check us out on Tik Tok at @defidecoded.

On this week's episode Alex and Andrew talk about the recent weakness in crypto markets and try to untangle how much of it is caused by the general weakness in financial markets and how much of it is a self-inflicted wound unique to crypto. Specifically, they discuss Celsius, the crypto lending platform, and their decision to gate withdrawals until they've shored up their capital and how that might be affecting investor confidence in the ecosystem. They also talk some bear market predictions, why the best projects get built when nobody is looking and where to find 'value plays' in a down market.

Jun 15, 2022
DeFi Decoded - Tim Copeland, News Editor at The Block, on why studying philosophy makes him a better crypto journo

On this week’s DeFi Decoded, Andrew and Alex sit down with Tim Copeland, News Editor at The Block, one of the industry’s leading news outlets. In this wide-ranging chat, Tim talks about how his experience reading and synthesizing dense philosophy books helps him do the same for crypto white papers and other esoteric ideas. He also shares his thoughts on the upcoming ETH merge, the growing pre-eminence of staking over proof of work mining, how in a bear market, projects will thrive (or die) based on their treasury management, and why he wants to help people find signal in the crypto noise. Tune in! 

Jun 09, 2022
DeFi Decoded - Searching for a Signal in the Crypto Noise and Why the First $1 Trillion Protocol will be in DeFi, with Eric Turner of Messari

On this week's episode, Alex sits down with Eric Turner, VP of Market Intelligence at Messari. Eric describes Messari's role as the leading provider of market intelligence for crypto and why in an ocean of data and content, it's the context, insight and analysis that matters. "Separating the signal from the noise is what we do," Eric says. Alex and Eric then talk about the future of crypto, why Eric thinks DeFi is still underrated as the financial layer for the Web3 economy, and why he believes the first $1 trillion protocol will be a DeFi project.

Jun 01, 2022
DeFi Decoded - How to Survive a Crypto Bear Market, with Crypto OG Bill Barhydt, CEO of Abra

On today's DeFi Decoded, Alex and Andrew sit down with Bill Barhydt, CEO of Abra. Bill's a seasoned crypto entrepreneur and industry leader who has been building businesses in this industry for the better part of a decade. With Abra, Bill has created one of the most popular consumer-facing crypto applications in the world. Bill shares his perspective on the state of global macro, explains how the market may have done the Fed's job for it, and describes his vision for an economically sustainable algorithmic stablecoin. Earlier in the show, Alex and Andrew talk about how UST's collapse has unwound a lot of DeFi TVL and how builders can create more economically sustainable models for growth. You won't want to miss it!

May 25, 2022
DeFi Decoded - With Featured Guest, Rodney Yesep, partner at Hack VC

On Today's episode, Alex and Andrew sit down with Rodney Yesep, partner at Hack VC. Hack VC is a venture capital firm that invests in the cryptocurrency, fintech, and marketplaces sectors. Hack VC is a crypto native investment firm that specializes in identifying early-stage companies to invest in. 

Rodney talks about the strategy of Hack VC and how they identify opportunities and early-stage companies to invest in. Andrew and Rodney chat about the recent crash in crypto prices, with a particular focus on the Terra Luna/UST collapse last week. Rodney also talks about some of the opportunities he's seeing in the space and emerging areas that crypto investors should look out for. This is a great listen for crypto investors looking to better understand how one of the most sophisticated crypto investors in the world identifies opportunities and invests.

May 19, 2022
DeFi Decoded - UST Loses its Peg, Can it be Saved? Plus putting the Bitcoin "Crash" In Perspective

On this week’s episode of DeFi Decoded, Andrew and Alex dive into the recent collapse of UST, which failed to hold its value to the US Dollar (the "de-pegging") and discuss the knock-on effects in the rest of the crypto market. Andrew talks about how stablecoins are like the Wildcat Banking days of yore. Alex draws an analogy to the Panic of 1907, where J.Pierpont Morgan (The man, not the company) swooped in to stabilise the financial system, and today, where influential crypto moguls are trying to architect their own bail out of UST. Then the two muse on what the long-term ramifications will be for the market, stablecoins, crypto policy and more.

May 12, 2022
DeFi Decoded - How Blockchain Prediction Markets like SX Network could transform Sports Betting, Risk Management and much more

On today's episode Alex and Andrew dig into prediction markets and focus in the recent success of SX Network,  creator of the world's largest blockchain prediction market, and the most popular decentralized prediction market application, SX Bet has processed $175 million in trades across ~900,000 bets since its launch. With over $100 million of these trades taking place in the last six months, SX.Bet is the largest blockchain-based prediction market in the world. SX just closed a $9.5 Million funding round to fuel the next stage of its growth as a fully-fledged blockchain for prediction market applications.

May 04, 2022
DeFi Decoded - DeFi for All? Democratizing DeFi for Mainstreet Investors with Maxim Galash, CEO of Coinchange

On Today's episode, Alex and Andrew sit down with Maxim Galash, CEO of Coinchange. Coinchange is a fintech company providing simple and frictionless access to DeFi for institutional and retail investors. Coinchange currently has over 20 institutional clients using their services for treasury management, and has ambitious plans to roll out to other customers and markets. 

Max talks about the origins of Coinchange and how he identified an opportunity to simplify and democratize the complex but lucrative DeFi industry. He explains why it's important for DeFi's long term success that it be an equal opportunity market, not one where Wall Street and industry insiders exploit all the best opportunities. Max tells us about the process of becoming a regulated DeFi provider, why he thinks "RegDeFi" is the place to be, and how he plans to rapidly scale his model. This is a great listen for traditional finance and DeFi folks alike who want to better understand the convergence of retail fintech, traditional finance and DeFi, told through the story of one start-up.

Apr 28, 2022
DeFi Decoded - DeFi's first killer app may be algorithmic stablecoins
On this episode, Andrew and Alex discuss the stunning growth of UST, a so-called algorithmic stablecoin. Stablecoins are cryptoassets pegged to the US dollar. Historically, stablecoins have been centralized, that is issued by a corporation and backed by deposits in a bank. However, the fastest area of growth today is in decentralized stablecoins or "algorithmic stablecoins," which are collateralized by cryptoassets held in smart contracts. UST leads this pack. 
The stakes of this race are significant: UST's ascent has caused the layer 1 protocol on which it runs- Terra- to 100x in value in a year. Other layer 1s are now playing g catch-up with NEAR and Tron announcing their own copycat stablecoins. Other protocols like Avanche are content to let their coins be used as collateral for UST, rather than create their own. Cosmos ATOMs are being used as collateral for UST, but that's more complicated. Andrew and Alex dig into all of this and more. Buckle up!
Apr 22, 2022
DeFi Decoded - How will crypto react to historically high inflation with Stephane Ouellette, CEO of FRNT Financial

On this week's episode Alex and Andrew talk about the historically high inflation roiling markets, and its implications on the crypto asset class. Plus, they discuss the recent update on the Ronin Bridge hack where over $600 million was stolen. Later, Andrew sits down with the CEO of FRNT Financial, Stephane Ouellette, to discuss the global macro environment, institutional investor adoption of crypto, and the competing perspectives on DeFi vs. CeFi. We also discuss FRNT's upcoming IPO on the Toronto Stock Exchange (TSX).

Apr 14, 2022
DeFi Decoded - ETH to $10k, Global Macro, Are Bonds Dead? and more with Scott Melker, aka "The Wolf of All Streets"

On this week's episode Alex and Andrew sit down with trader, investor, and host of the popular "The Wolf of All Streets" podcast Scott Melker to discuss ETH, Global Macros, Bonds and more.

Apr 06, 2022
DeFi Decoded - Building liquid, private and fungible barter systems + Reinventing money with Adrian Brink, Founder of Anoma Labs

On this episode of DeFi Decoded, Andrew and Alex speak to Adrian Brink, founder of Anoma Labs, which is a truly novel blockchain design. Anoma is a set of protocols for private human coordination with as much privacy as possible. Essentially, Anoma allows any digital asset to function as means of exchange or payment, which all things being equal can create greater liquidity, less slippage, and more privacy in transactions.

Mar 31, 2022
DeFi Decoded - How guilds are cashing in on the blockchain gaming gold rush
Mar 23, 2022
DeFi Decoded - Reacting to Biden’s executive order on Crypto, plus is Crypto really being used to evade sanctions? Also: Soaring LUNA!
Bitcoin and other cryptoassets like Ether are proving their worth as frictionless peer-to-peer money and playing a key role in funding the Ukrainian war effort with over $100 million USD in crypto donations raised. Alex and Andrew cut through the fog and talk the truth about what's happening.
Mar 16, 2022
DeFi Decoded - Ben Lee of Blowfish Studios on making blockchain-based gaming fun for everyone
In this episode, Andrew and Alex sit down with Ben Lee, CEO and co-founder of Blowfish Studios. Blowfish is a games developer and publisher that has successfully launched a myriad of games across standard gaming consoles. Now, Blowfish Studios is now taking the leap forward in the blockchain through its soon-to-be-released Phantom Galaxies.  Phantom Galaxies, likely the first playable AAA blockchain game, is expected to shake up the industry by integrating NFTs, P2E and other blockchain concepts into an immersive, fun and engaging game for all kinds of gamers. The game is expected to be released in Q2 2022 with the developers releasing Starfighter NFT drops and generative avatars in Q1 2022. The studio distributed NFTs in the form of an airdrop to its early adopters and will host a public sale of in-game planets also known as “PGToken”. With a strong history of delivering high caliber games ambitions to revolutionize blockchain gaming, Blowfish and Phantom Galaxies should be on all gamers' radars. 
Mar 09, 2022
DeFi Decoded - Crypto Bull Market is Back! + ETH Denver Roundup with Crypto VC Charlie Morris

The crypto bull market is back on as investors weigh the long-term implications of the Ukrainian conflict. On this episode, Charlie shares his perspective on current events and how they illustrate the value of censorship resistant money. What makes Charlie really bullish long-term, though, are Developers, Developers, Developers! Charlie recently attended ETH Denver, a giant global con-fab of crypto programmers, entrepreneurs and influencers. Over 12,000 people attended the event, representing all the major cryptoasset ecosystems such as Ethereum, Cosmos, Solana, Polkadot, Avalanche and more. Charlie describes how the event was brimming with talent, new ideas and concepts. One example from the episode: At one point while queuing for a COVID test, he met two young entrepeneurs who were there with their dad and who have 100k twitter followers and a new DAO! Lots of great morsels from this one. Check it out!

Mar 01, 2022
DeFi Decoded - Special Episode on Geopolitics, Political Emergencies and Global Regulations (Or What's REALLY Driving Markets)

On this episode of DeFi Decoded, Andrew and Alex break down these major news events and discuss the long term implications for Bitcoin, DeFi and the broader cryptoasset market.

Feb 23, 2022
DeFi Decoded - How Agoric plans to onboard millions of new developers into DeFi, with Dean Tribble CEO
On this episode, Andrew and Alex ask Dean what problems Agoric solves, how it seeks to onboard millions of developers, where it's seeing the most developer growth, how the tokenomics of its native BND token work, what the roadmap looks like for 2022 and beyond…and much more! Pour a cup of java (sorry, dad joke)…you’re in for a quite a ride! 
Feb 15, 2022
DeFi Decoded - Hart Lambur, founder of Universal Market Access (UMA) on enabling anyone to build & launch DeFi products

On this week's DeFi Decoded, Andrew Young is joined by Hart Lambur, the co-founder of UMA, a decentralized financial contracts platform built to enable Universal Market Access. Hart studied computer science before working as an interest rate trader at Goldman Sachs through the financial crisis. In 2013 he co-founded Openfolio, a personal finance tracking platform that was acquired in 2017 by a financial planning firm. He now leads a team of financial contract and oracle design researchers at UMA.

Andrew and Hart discuss the founding origins of UMA and its mission, looking at both the core UMA protocol and UMA's so-called optimistic oracle design. They also dive deep into the DeFi ecosystem, getting Hart's predictions on what the next big DeFi narratives will be in 2022. They analyze and discuss the ongoing L1 wars and share their thoughts on how the application and blockchain space will develop in the future.

Feb 08, 2022
Will Wall Street propel DeFi to $1 trillion in TVL in 2022? With Lex Sokolin of Consensys

Wall Street’s biggest institutions seem to love investing in crypto companies. The week we recorded, FTX, the centralized exchange, closed a $400 million financing led by Temasek, Paradigm, Softbank Vision Fund 2, and including Wall Street names like Tiger Global and Ontario Teachers’ Pension Plan. At $32 billion, FTX is worth more than NASDAQ or Credit Suisse. 

Yet, these investors and big banks have been slower to embrace DeFi, despite it being a $250 billion market. Why? How will DeFi create financial products on-chain that will appeal to traditional financial players? What regulatory and technology hurdles must be overcome? What’s a “permissioned pool and how does it work?” Does it matter that Wall Street embrace DeFi? After all isn’t DeFi eating Wall Street?  

These are just some of the questions we pose to our guest Lex Sokolin, Global Fintech Co-Head and Chief Economist at ConsenSys. ConsenSys’ mission is threefold: populate Ethereum with things that work; act as a distribution channel for institutions; and help people use Web3. MetaMask, the most popular ETH wallet in the world, is a ConsenSys creation. Previously, Lex has held various senior roles in both traditional finance, fintech and crypto. He earned a JD/MBA from Columbia University and a B.A. in Economics and Law from Amherst College. His writing is publicly available at

Feb 01, 2022
DeFi Decoded - Why fortunes are made in bear markets with Scott Melker, The Wolf of All Streets

On this week's DeFi Decoded episode, Andrew and Alex sit down with seasoned trader, cryptoasset expert and the host of the popular “The Wolf Of All Streets Podcast” Scott Melker. Scott explains on the podcast how “fortunes are made in bear markets.” Buckle up, this is a good one!

Jan 26, 2022
DeFi Decoded - Abra CEO, Bill Barhydt, shares his vision for how we onboard the next billion people to crypto

On this DeFi Decoded episode, Andrew and Alex sit down with Bill Barhydt, CEO of Abra, one of the leading wealth management platforms for cryptoassets. Abra’s mission is to create a simple and honest platform to help the next billion crypto holders maximize the potential of their crypto assets. 

Jan 18, 2022
DeFi Decoded - Top Narratives that Will Drive Investment Returns in Cryptoassets in 2022

On this episode, Andrew and Alex break down their top narratives, trends, and predictions for 2022. Listen in to hear all the predictions and understand why we've made them.

As we say, the future is not something to be predicted, it's something to be achieved. Ninepoint and Prophecy DeFi are working to achieve that better future.

Jan 12, 2022
DeFi Decoded - Ryan Selkis shares his top crypto predictions for 2022 - DOUBLE EPISODE!

On this very special final (DOUBLE) episode of 2021, Alex and Andrew sit down with Ryan Selkis (@twobitidiot), co-founder, and CEO of Messari, the leading crypto asset data and research company, to talk about the big trends that emerged in 2021 and share some eye-opening predictions for 2022 - from DeFi to stablecoins, NFTs, regulations, and more.

Dec 21, 2021
DeFi Decoded - Why DeFi needs a truly Decentralized Internet to succeed, with Greg Osuri, CEO of Akash

On this episode of DeFi Decoded, Andrew and Alex ask Greg some important questions, including: What problems does a decentralized cloud solve? Who are the biggest users? Can decentralized clouds scale? How long until Fortune 50 companies are migrating to decentralized cloud? What are the implementation challenges? And much more.

Dec 15, 2021
DeFi Decoded - Peng Zhong on democratising DeFi and being a multi-chain maximalist

On Today's episode of DeFi Decoded, Alex and Andrew sit down with Peng Zhong, CEO of Tendermint. Peng leads a world-class team that builds applications to improve the usability, accessibility, and safety of blockchain for developers and end-users. Tendermint is a core contributor to the Cosmos ecosystem, which houses more than 250 blockchain projects and secures over $100B in digital assets. Projects on the Cosmos ecosystem include Binance Chain, Terra,, ThorChain, Osmosis, Kava,, Injective Protocol, Persistence, Akash, Regen, and many more. Peng shares his vision for a more accesible and open version of DeFi, how airdrops drive value creation to Cosmos and why Interchain security is the next big thing for ATOM.

Dec 07, 2021
DeFi Decoded - Jake Hannah of SX Network on Scaling DeFi with Polygon, Prediction Markets and more

On today's podcast, Alex and Andrew are joined by Jake Hannah, the COO and co-founder of SX Network, to discuss Polygon and the SX Network project. SX Network is the first project to build a blockchain using the Polygon SDK. Like how Polygon inherits its security from Ethereum, SX Network inherits its security from Polygon making SX the first unofficial "layer 3" blockchain. In today's episode, we'll be talking about the future of blockchain scalability, focusing on Polygon and SX Network. We also cover the blockchain prediction market space, and a variety of topics across the DeFi and broader crypto space!

Up and coming blockchain 'Layer 2' platform Polygon, with its unique blend of scalability solutions, has been gaining in popularity as a solution to Ethereum's scalability problems. In about a year, Polygon has built the largest and most dominant Ethereum layer 2 network in the world, but it faces competition from insurgent Layer 1 projects like Avalanche and Solana for developer mindshare. To combat this, Polygon is attracting talent with their Polygon SDK (software developer kit), which enables projects to build their own Ethereum compatible blockchains with Polygon serving as the base security layer.

Dec 01, 2021
DeFi Decoded - Charlie Morris of CMCC Global on why Solana will continue to be a leader in the blockchain race

DeFi Fan Favorite Charlie Morris, GP of CMCC Global, is back! This time he joins to discuss his views on the Layer 1 wars which have been lighting up crypto twitter recently.

Charlie and the guys talk about the concept of so-called "Ethereum killers," new protocols like Solana, Terra and Avalanche which are capturing DeFi market share from Ethereum.

They debate whether 'Ethereum killer' is the correct framing, whether one chain will rule them all and how many of these new protocols will stand the test of time.

Charlie also shares some thoughts on his recent trip to Lisbon to attend the Solana Breakpoint event. One big take-away was the rise of gaming, social media and other Web3 applications taking greater prominence. I guess crypto really is eating the world.

Nov 24, 2021
DeFi Decoded - Ethan Buchman on how Cosmos is creating an “Internet of Blockchains” and his vision for Regenerative Finance (ReFi)

On today’s episode of DeFi Decoded, Alex sits down with Ethan Buchman, co-founder of Cosmos and inventor of Tendermint, the consensus algorithm which powers a huge chunk of the blockchain economy. Ethan is a true polymath, versed in biology, philosophy, and political economy, which informs his view on how blockchain can bring about a more sustainable and just world and a new kind of financial system called Regenerative Finance (ReFi).

Ethan is also an enormously successful entrepreneur: In less than three years, Cosmos has grown into a nearly $10 billion protocol that supports hundreds of different blockchains and over $100 billion in value. Investors in the original token offering for Cosmos ($ATOM) are up approximately 300x their money. As the “internet of blockchains” Cosmos is knitting together different platforms into one interoperable network. In addition, the DeFi ecosystem on Cosmos is growing fast, with Osmosis nearing in on $1 billion in TVL since launch.

Nov 17, 2021
DeFi Decoded - How Avalanche (AVAX) scaled to $10 Billion in DeFi TVL in 3 Months, with Luigi DeMeo, Director of DeFi at Ava Labs
On today's DeFi Decoded, Andrew and Alex speak to Luigi DeMeo, reformed Wall Street trader turned DeFi entrepreneur, evangelist, and community builder. Luigi currently oversees DeFi for Ava Labs, the software development company that supports the Avalanche ecosystem. Luigi tells the guys about his personal journey, which started on the Citigroup trading floor and how he fell down the Ethereum rabbit hole and ended up going full-crypto. He explains what makes Avalanche different, what problems it solves, who is building on the protocol, how it could be adopted by traditional financial players, and where DeFi on Avalanche is headed next. This is a must-listen for newbies and veteran DeFi traders.
Nov 09, 2021
DeFi Decoded: Why DeFi matters; with the inventor of the Automated Market Maker (AMM), Galia Benartzi

In this episode, Andrew and Alex sit down with DeFi pioneer Galia Benartzi, co-founder of Bancor and inventor of the Automated Market Maker, now a building block of Decentralized Finance (DeFi). Galia is also a member of the advisory council of Prophecy DeFi (PDFI-CSE).

Galia has appeared on BloombergTV and CNBC, and has spoken at the United Nations. Previously, she was a Venture Partner at Peter Thiel's Founder's Fund, a founding member of Summit Powder Mountain, and the organizer of Bretton Woods 75, a commemoration event evaluating the historic monetary accords.

Galia provides her perspective on the origins of DeFi, why DeFi matters, the most exciting areas of growth and more.

Nov 02, 2021
DeFi Decoded - with Sunny Aggarwal, Co-Founder of Osmosis, on Building a Better Decentralized Exchange and the Future of DeFi

On today's episode, Andrew and Alex are joined by Sunny Aggarwal, Co-founder of Osmosis ($OSMO), a Decentralized Exchange (DEX) on the Cosmos blockchain network which, in only nine months, has soared to US$600 million in Total Value Locked. Osmosis is attracting capital from across the industry including from some of the most influential investors: On the day we recorded the podcast, Paradigm, the multi-billion crypto VC firm, announced a major investment of $21 million to help Osmosis accelerate its growth. It was the first DEX investment Paradigm made outside of the Ethereum ecosystem, evidence of Osmosis' growing important to the future of DeFi. Sunny tells us about the origin of Osmosis, his vision for blockchain interoperability and composability, the innovative feature set of Osmosis, the importance of privacy in blockchain transactions, why traditional finance people should be paying attention to DeFi and much more.

Oct 28, 2021
DeFi Decoded - Emerging trends in stablecoins

On Today's episode of DeFi Decoded, Andrew is joined by Kevin Zhang. Kevin is the co-Founder of PayTrie and DFX Finance. PayTrie is one of Canada's largest fiat on-boarding ramps, helping Canadians buy crypto stablecoins with their bank account. DFX Finance is the leading decentralized foreign exchange protocol that is optimized for stablecoins. DFX is the category leader in the rapidly emerging DeFi FX sub-sector, garnering over $15m in assets to the protocol and attracting millions of dollars in trading volume.

In this episode, Andrew and Kevin do a deep-dive into both PayTrie and DFX and how they are complementary to each other. They discuss emerging trends in stablecoins, looking into market flows and where investor demand is. Finally, we get Kevin's views on where DeFi is today, and how he views the space evolving over time.

Oct 20, 2021
DeFi Decoded - Where the smart money is going in DeFi with Jon Lister, CEO of SatStreet

On Today's episode of DeFi Decoded, Andrew and Alex are joined by Jon Lister, co-Founder and President of Satstreet, one of Canada's fastest growing digital asset brokerages. Jon has executed over $500 million in digital currency trades for institutions and high net worth clients. He previously co-founded BlockEQ, a leading platform for the Stellar Network, which was acquired by Coinsquare for $12 million in December 2018. Jon also gained experience at BMO Capital Markets, Blackhawk Network and earned an HBA from Ivey Business School.

On this episode, Andrew and Alex get Jon's outlook on the macro-environment and what it means for cryptoassets and defi. They also discuss some DeFi trends he's watching, and learn more about how SatStreet works and how it's helping broaden access to DeFi opportunities for institutional investors. They discuss which projects are being picked up by the market, and point out some exciting ones that are flying under the radar. They also get Jon's take on the recent regulatory news out of both China and the US and what it means for crypto and defi.

Oct 14, 2021
DeFi Decoded - Facebook Crashed, Exposing Why We Need a New Model for the Internet

On this epside of DeFi Decoded, in light of the Facebook outage, Alex and Andrew dig into the promise and peril of Web3 - Can it actually solve these problems, or does it threaten to create a system that's just as fragile but more fragmented and thus harder to control.

For ten perilous (or blissful, depending on who you ask) hours on Monday October 4th, Facebook and all the Facebook branded apps went offline, exposing the centralized and surprisingly fragile nature of the Web.

Despite the broadly positive innovations of the internet, we still rely on middlemen to perform many essential functions, such as maintaining internet infrastructure, moving, and storing value and data, verifying identities, and performing basic business logic like databasing, contracting and so forth. 

This is problematic for several reasons. Intermediaries are vulnerable to hacking or failure (as we saw with Facebook). Banks, social media companies and other intermediaries are gatekeepers that exclude many people. They also capture all the data and much of the value created online. That’s bad because it could violate our privacy but also because we don’t get to fully participate in what we create online. 

Blockchain promises a new era of the internet, dubbed Web3, which could solve many of these problems by giving us a way to move and store assets digitally and peer to peer. Blockchain gives us the tools, incentives and mechanisms to create value and organize capability though DAOs or decentralized autonomous organizations, rather than centralized companies.

Web3 promises a fairer, more resilient, more transparent, more private, and more decentralized internet, financial services industry, and economy.

Oct 06, 2021
DeFi Decoded - A conversation with Crypto VC Charlie Morris on the top DeFi trends right now
On Today's episode of DeFi Decoded, Andrew and Alex are joined by our first special guest, Charlie Morris, Managing Partner of CMCC Global, a US $300 million asset management company focused exclusively on digital assets and blockchain technology.
Charlie is also an independent board member of Prophecy Defi (PDFI-CSE). CMCC Global was founded in 2016, making Charlie one of the longest tenured VC investors in this entire industry. CMCC research on DeFi and other emerging areas of blockchain innovation are required reading for anyone trying to understand the future of this industry. With offices in Asia and North America, CMCC has a truly global footprint.

On this episode, Andrew and Alex ask about Charlie's main crypto theses, and discuss some of the emerging DeFi trends he is keeping an eye out for. They dig into what makes a good project- from the core team to the tech to the target market. And get Charlie's take on some emerging protocols or L1s that are starting to chip away at Ethereum's market share. We also get Charlie's take on the recent news that China is cracking down on crypto and what that means for the industry.

Sep 29, 2021
DeFi Decoded -9 Things you need to know about DeFi and the Future of Financial Services

On today's episode we review the key transformations and ask what's next? As Robert Leshner co-founder of Compound Labs says, DeFi is not going to be called DeFi in the next 5 years. It's just going to be called finance. And all finance is going to run on blockchains; most assets will make their way onto a blockchain."

Financial services is more than an industry—it is the cardiovascular system of the global economy, the lifeline of all other industries. DeFi is reimagining its anatomy and physiology from banking and trading to risk management and more. 

Through the first few weeks of DeFi decoded, we have covered all the key functions of the financial service industry and how it's being disrupted. They are:

  1. Storing value: DAO treasuries for institutions, cryptoasset/token wallets for individuals. These are the new crypto-native bank accounts
  2. Moving value:  Stablecoins such as USDC and MakerDAO’s DAI route around banks
  3. Lending value:  Pooled lending such as Compound and AAVE augment savings accounts at banks and other financial intermediaries and have better yields to boot. 
  4. Funding and investing: Investment aggregators such as YFI and Rari could ultimately disintermediate investment advisors, mutual funds, exchange traded funds, and robo-advisors.  
  5. Exchanging value: Decentralized exchanges such as Uniswap, Sushiswap, and QuickSwap could replace or enhance stock exchanges and centralized cryptoasset exchanges 
  6. Insuring value and managing risk (i.e., derivatives): On-chain insurance such as NexusMutual and derivatives platforms such as SX, Perpetual protocol, and dYdX could supplement or replace insurance policies and over-the-counter derivatives. 
  7. Analyzing value: Contract auditors such as Zeppelin and DeFi Score could augment or perhaps even perform the work of the Big Five accounting firms. 
  8. Accounting for value: Block explorers such as Etherscan and PolygonScan track asset movements in real time; perhaps eventually eliminating periodic audits by accounting firms. 
  9. Authenticating identity: Formal verification is no longer required to access open-source DeFi protocols. Pseudonymous or anonymous identities are common.
Sep 22, 2021
DeFi Decoded: Are DAOs ushering in a world without companies? (Decentralized Autonomous Organizations)

DAOs are increasingly governing larger and larger DeFi protocols and their respective treasuries. On this episode of DeFi Decoded, Andrew and Alex dig into the rapidly emerging DAO boom and discuss how they've helped accelerate DeFi ecosystem growth. 

While Decentralized Finance has the potential to revolutionize the financial system, Decentralized Autonomous Organizations (DAOs) threaten to disrupt the very way humans organize, socialize, and coordinate. DAOs are on-chain entities that facilitate the governance and economic coordination of decentralized protocols. The typical DeFi protocol often collects a fee, which is then diverted to an on-chain treasury. Rather than having the core founders control this treasury, DAOs enable DeFi protocols to put tokens in control of them. Token holders vote on how to disburse funds, allocate budgets, and how to hire/fire contributors.

Sep 15, 2021
DeFi Decoded: Will Main Street Buy DeFi Index Funds?

On this episode of DeFi Decoded, Andrew and Alex dig into the rapidly emerging DeFi Index fund movement and discuss how they're different from traditional ETF providers.

Many of the largest asset managers in the traditional financial world are passive ETFs and Index funds; the decentralized financial system is no different! Smart contract-based index funds have been one of the fastest growing areas within the DeFi ecosystem. Like traditional ETFs, they create value for investors by packaging multiple different crypto assets into a basket or index, enabling investors to get passive exposure to an entire sector with one click of a button. They come with a twist though; these index funds are entirely blockchain-based and rather than having a centralized asset manager in charge, there is simply an open-source software protocol and decentralized governance system.


Sep 08, 2021
DeFi Decoded: The Top Reasons why DeFi will become more popular than NFTs
Pumpkin Spice Lattes may be back in stock at Starbucks, portending fall's arrival, but it's still very much NFT SUMMER in crypto land. 
August smashed all records for transaction value in this new breed of digital assets. There are no signs things are slowing down in September. OpenSea, a leading NFT platform, tallied volumes of more than $1 billion in a month, more than eBay's sales volume in the same period. Crypto art connoisseurs (or are they just speculators?) are now routinely spending thousands and sometimes millions of dollars on the rights to own the rights to certain rare images. 
The dam has broken and NFT culture is flooding into the mainstream. Tom Brady has an NFT platform called Autograph, and Steph Curry has changed his twitter avatar to an NFT he owns in his crypto wallet, and paid $180,000 for to boot. 
So what exactly are NFTs and why have they captured the zeitgeist? What does their stunning rise tell us about the viral power of crypto. Art is a big market- $67.4 billion in 2018- and growing, but that pales in comparison to the financial services industry, the prize DeFi is targeting. NFT's have taken the art world by storm. Even Damien Hirst is jumping on the band wagon. Will Wall Street be turned on its head when DeFi has its own "NFT Summer" moment? How do NFTs intersect with DeFi - art is an investible asset class and thanks to fractionalization, anyone can own a slice of an NFT or invest in an NFT fund. Could this democratize access to art as an investible asset class? Is this all positive, or is the speculative mania of NFTs going to cause a hangover across the asset class if (and perhaps inevitably when) the music stops?
On this episode of DeFi decoded, Andrew and Alex pull out their provervbial easel and palette to paint a clearer picture of just what the heck is going on. Tune in!
Sep 01, 2021
DeFi Decoded: Why Yield Aggregators are putting Robo-Advisors and other Fintechs on notice

Yield aggregators play a key role in the DeFi ecosystem by hooking into many different DeFi protocols for users in order to optimize yield. Yield aggregators work by having users stake tokens into their platform and allowing the platform to manage their assets for them. You can think of them as almost a robo advisor for DeFi.

These yield platforms have grown tremendously alongside the growth in DeFi, with over $20b in total value locked. On this episode of DeFi Decoded, Andrew and Alex dig into the yield aggregator boom and discuss how they've helped accelerate DeFi ecosystem growth.

Aug 25, 2021
DeFi Decoded: Special Episode- Could US Policymakers Kill DeFi with this one simple decision?

Insurance and risk management is a $6 trillion market worldwide, but so far is underrepresented in the DeFi space. Decentralized insurance platforms and prediction markets enable the trading of so-called 'event risk' between participants. These platforms upend the traditional model by allowing anyone to transact with each other through smart contracts, with no intermediaries, like insurance companies (for traditional insurance) or investment banks (for derivatives) sitting in the middle.

We have seen DeFi protocols like Uniswap and Aave tackle and disrupt markets like trading and lending. Will decentralized insurance see the same kind of growth? What impact will these emerging decentralized models for insurance have on legacy institutions and business models?

On this episode of DeFi Decoded, Andrew and Alex dig into the insurance and prediction market space and discuss how these platforms have the power to transform risk management. They compare the decentralized DeFi insurance platforms like NexusMutual and SX Protocol to their established centralized peers. 

Aug 18, 2021
DeFi Decoded - Regulating Non-Custodial, Decentralized and Autonomous Entities

Tucked away in the infrastructure bill before congress is a 'pay-for' provision that claims it will raise $28 billion in new revenue from the cryptocurrency industry by requiring brokers to provide information on their users. To be sure, traditional exchanges and brokers such as Gemini, Coinbase and others should be regulated and comply with any new tax laws approved by congress. However, as originally written, the provision would have potentially included virtually every kind of participant in the industry, from miners to software developers, lightning nodes (Bitcoin) and others. If passed in its original form, it would have a chilling effect on innovation in DeFi, and throw the whole industry into a state of confusion and uncertainty.

This is a pivotal moment in this trajectory of digital assets, DeFi and blockchain. At the time of recording, there is a compromise amendment that would clarify these rules and would exempt many of those non-broker entities, still no vote has been cast one way or the other and anything could happen.

Regardless of a positive outcome, this is no way to make policy and the whole event should serve as a cautionary tale in future debates on this issue. The fight itself reveals a fundamental misunderstanding of how DeFi works. Governments are used to traditional custodial financial intermediaries, but DeFi is non-custodial. Regulators are used to overseeing companies and individuals whereas DeFi is built on clever code and math. By failing to understand how the technology works, governments could inadvertently de-rail one of the fastest growing and most promising sectors in the economy today.

On this episode of DeFi decoded, Andrew and Alex will dig into this topic, discussing how we got here, what's at stake and what the future holds. You won't want to miss it!

Aug 11, 2021
DeFi Decoded: How to build a derivatives market without Wall Street

Derivatives are the single largest asset class in the world, with an estimated notional value estimated to be over a quadrillion dollars. However, decentralized derivative platforms haven't yet taken off in constrast to the other high flying sectors of DeFi - why is that? These decentralized derivative platforms enable users to create their own derivatives and transact them with others, in a completely permissionless and decentralized fashion. On this episode of DeFi Decoded, Andrew and Alex dig into the decentralized derivatives space and discuss why derivative platforms have yet to experience the rapid growth that many are projecting. They compare the decentralized crypto derivative platforms like dYdX and Perpetual Protocol to their established centralized peers like BitMex and FTX.

Aug 04, 2021
DeFi Decoded - Lending and borrowing without banks and credit checks

On this episode of DeFi Decoded, Andrew and Alex dig into the lending boom and discuss how lending platforms have become the dominant hub of DeFi. They compare the decentralized crypto lending platforms like AAVE to their established centralized peers like BlockFi.

Jul 28, 2021
DeFi Decoded: Learn how Stablecoins are Fueling DeFi's rise and upending traditional payments

On this episode of DeFi Decoded, Andrew and Alex dig into the stablecoin boom and discuss how stablecoins have helped fueled the rise of DeFi. They discuss the the two kinds of stablecoins, centralized and decentralized. Centralized stablecoins such as USDC are issued by companies and backed by reserves.

Jul 21, 2021
DeFi Decoded: How decentralized exchanges are cutting out the middleman

On this edition of DeFi Decoded, Alex and Andrew start with a simple question; "What's a Decentralized Exchange anyway?" and from there discuss Uniswap and its significant role in reimagining financial services.

Jul 14, 2021
Mastering DeFi without learning how to code: An introduction to the DeFi Decoded Podcast

Join Alex Tapscott and Andrew Young as they discuss the fundamentals of Decentralized Finance and how this bleeding edge technology enables individuals and institutions to transact, and create value, without the need for traditional financial intermediaries.

Jul 07, 2021