Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

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Podcast Republic User
 Nov 23, 2022
Devastating stories, yet fascinating if you're interested in learning more about the forensic/scientific side of things. I think the Q&A between Jackie and Joseph Scott Morgan is a winning format. Graphic in/by nature, but highly recommend!

AM
 Nov 20, 2021
LISTENER DISCRETION ADVISED. If the name hasn't hinted you in yet, this podcast does NOT focus on the overall crime or case. Instead, the focus is on the victims & their injuries. It is respectfully done, but may be hard for some to hear.

Description

Join Joseph Scott Morgan every week as he explores a world that not many have had a chance to visit, the realm of death. Jo Scott will lead listeners on a journey through the blood soaked death scenes of America and then into the autopsy room to fully understand the science behind each case. Jo Scott is one America’s leading experts on applied forensics and is regularly featured on ‘Crime Stories with Nancy Grace’, ‘The Piketon Massacre’, Court TV and more. Theme Music: Audio Network

Episode Date
Mariticide in Ohio - The Case of Dr. Christopher Osborn
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Dr. Christopher Osborn is found and pronounced dead in his home in Dublin, Ohio on July 18th, 2018, just after 7:30 a.m.  He had been shot in the head three times in his sleep. His wife, Holli Osborn, drunkenly calls her father to tell him that her husband is dead. Her father calls the police and shortly thereafter they arrive at the house. After finding two guns next to the bed and seeing the state of Ms. Osborn, they take her into custody and eventually charge her with the murder of her husband. 

In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and Jackie Howard discuss the state Dr. Osborn was murdered in, gunshot residue, how to assess a crime scene after its been altered, how the location of where Holli’s DNA was found eventually proved she was the perpetrator, and more.

 

Show Notes:

0:00 - Intro

1:25 - Background and overview of the case

2:43 - Evidence from the bed

6:23 - In a case like this, what evidence do you start with first?

9:28 - Who arrived at the scene first?

12:20 - Assessing the crime scene after it's been damaged

15:40 - How to tell the difference between something that was part of the crime vs. caused by first responders when they arrived at the scene

19:40 - Does the amount of blood depend on how many times you were shot or where you were shot?

29:20 - Does Dr. Osborn’s physical state (sleeping) factor into his body’s reaction when he was shot?

34:40 - Gunshot residue

40:43 - Are all gun powders the same?

42:30 - Distribution of gunpowder

47:00 - “10 particles”

49:35 - Holli’s DNA being found on the gun and how it was proven that she was the perpetrator

50:50 - Outro

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Dec 06, 2022
A Huge Problem - Body Builder Murders Ex-Wife Katie Baunach
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Katie Baunach is last seen alive on September 29th, 2022, when she tells a friend she is going to her ex-husband's home to pick up some of her belongings. She obtained a restraining order from him the previous month after allegations he had abused one of their children. When police went to investigate the house they detected “signs of a physical struggle” and upon looking further found something much more sinister.

In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and Jackie Howard discuss how luminol is used to detect blood, the difficulties of burning a body, non-specific homicidal trauma, “roid rage”, and more.  

 

Show Notes:

0:00 - Intro

1:25 - Background and overview of the case

2:58 - Moving of the car

5:40 - Using luminol to detect blood 

12:13 - Who invented spraying blood with luminol to see it under a black light?

14:30 - The difficulties of burning a body

20:34 - Why did the barrel smell of decay? (check)

22:18 - Moving the body

24:10 - How do you determine the cause of death for a body that had been moved multiple times?

26:50 - Non-specific homicidal trauma

30:02 - Dealing with stress

30:33 - Police find suspicious substances

34:03 - What is “roid rage” and what causes it?

40:45 - Wrap up

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Nov 29, 2022
Four Dead Students in Moscow, Idaho - The Search for a Killer Continues
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Four University of Idaho students are brutally murdered in their home in Moscow, Idaho on November 13th, 2022. Police suspect that the murder took place between 3am-4 and their bodies are discovered by a friend that same morning around noon. Investigators believe that the murder weapon was a knife of some sort. This case is still unfolding. 

In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and Jackie Howard discuss the gruesome nature of this case, the murder weapon, making sense of the chaos of the crime scene, what police are looking for in the surveillance footage, and more.

 

Show Notes:

0:00 - Intro

1:25 - Background and overview of case

2:26 - The police not knowing what they were walking into

6:20 - Side door being the point of entry

8:30 - Signs of forced entry, the window, and how it could have been pried open

10:07 - Light sources

12:30 - Two roommates who survived, who was stabbed first, the murder weapon

18:26 - The style of weapon suggests that this was a targeted attack

21:34 - How do we tell who was stabbed first and what are we going to find on the other victims?

26:38 - Making sense of the chaos

28:05 - Co-mingling of blood, actions of the perpetrator, finding the knife

31:54 - Other injuries to expect in this case

35:38 - What exactly are the police looking for in the video surveillance footage?

40:38 - Outro

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Nov 22, 2022
Two Linked Lives - The Heartbreaking Story of Reagan Simmons Hancock
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Reagan Simmons Hancock, 21, is found dead in her New Boston home by her mother on the morning of October 9th, 2020. She was seven and a half months pregnant, had been stabbed over 100 times, strangled, and had her unborn child removed from her womb. The perpetrator is Taylor Parker, a friend of Hancock’s, who had been faking a pregnancy for over 10 months.

In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and Jackie Howard discuss the blood patterns at the crime scene, the injuries sustained by Hancock, the logistics of performing an at-home C-section, and how Parker may have gone about planning the attack. 

 

Show Notes:

0:00 - Intro

1:18 - Background and overview of case

3:14 - Blood patterns

4:42 - Two questions: 1. How much blood is in the human body? 2. With blood everywhere, how do you figure out where the murder actually occurred?

7:50 - Stab wounds/strangulation 

10:40 - How Reagan’s pregnancy factored into her murder/death

13:32 - Scalpels, surgical tools, C-sections

17:25 - Langer lines

19:50 - How did the assailant perform the C-section without harming the baby?

23:11 - Finding the perpetrator: Taylor Parker

24:10 - The placenta and Parker faking the baby’s birth

27:35 - Major indicators that a woman has given birth 

30:28 - What ultimately led to the death of the child?

32:30 - Wrap up and final thoughts

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Nov 15, 2022
A Horrifying Discovery in the Woods - The Death of Cairo Jordan
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On April 16th, 2022 a mushroom hunter calls 911 to tell them he’s found an abandoned suitcase in the middle of the woods. Inside the suitcase is the body of a young boy. The boy is later identified as 5-year-old Cairo Ammar Jordan from Atlanta, Georgia. He was never reported missing. 

In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and Jackie Howard discuss the state of Cairo’s body when it was found, his cause of death, how police process a crime scene like this, what it’s like to discover a body, and much more.

 

Show Notes:

0:00 - Intro

1:57 - Background and overview of the case

3:10 - How did they get Cairo into the suitcase?

7:25 - The state of Cairo’s body when found

10:45 - Discovering bodies

14:55 - How do police begin processing a scene like this? 

18:15 - Joe describes the tests done on evidence found

21:30 - The inside of the suitcase

27:30 - Pulling fingerprints and finding the crime scene as the perpetrator left it

31:35 - Cairo’s cause of death 

35:45 - How does an electrolyte imbalance kill you?

38:10 - Viral gastroenteritis 

43:10 - Wrap up  

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Nov 08, 2022
Four Men on Bikes - A Mysterious Quadruple Homicide in Oklahoma
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Four men in Okmulgee, Oklahoma leave a friend's house on bikes on the evening of October 9th, 2022. Investigators believe that these men intended to commit a crime, or series of crimes. They are soon reported missing. On October 14th, their bodies are found in Deep For River having been shot and dismembered. After looking into the case officials believe that this act was premeditated. 

In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and Jackie Howard discuss the overt violence of the murder, how to track a bicycle, how you distinguish between blood types, how investigators retrieve body parts, and much more.

 

Show Notes:

0:00 - Intro

1:12 - Background and overview of the case

3:20 - How do you track a bicycle?

9:45 - How do you calculate how far to extend your search?

12:10 - Police using tracking information to find the victims

15:30 - Bodies dumped in the river

16:15 - How is it physically possible to kill four men in a short period of time?

20:35 - What exactly is “a violent act”?

24:15 -  The steps taken in an autopsy to distinguish between blood types

29:00 - What do two different blood types look like on a slide?

30:58 - Visual deception

32:10 - Would the victim's skeleton be visible by this point?

36:10 - How does the gruesome state of the victim’s bodies interfere with being able to figure out what happened to them?

39:40 - How do you retrieve body parts and keep them in the state they’re found?

46:05 - Wrap up

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Nov 01, 2022
Trapped in a Suitcase - The Murder of Jorge Torres Jr.
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Sarah Boone calls authorities to report that her boyfriend, Jorge Torres Jr. is dead in their home in Winter Park, Florida. The couple had been drinking the night before and thought it would be “funny” if Mr. Torres crawled inside a suitcase and Ms.Boone zipped him inside. She then goes upstairs and passes out in her bed. When she woke up the next morning she finds Torres still in the suitcase and unresponsive. After police uncovered video from Boone’s phone with Torres yelling Boones name and attempting to escape, they charge her with second-degree murder.

In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and Jackie Howard discuss what happens to your body when it’s deprived of oxygen, positional vs. compression asphyxiation, how much of a role the couple’s alcohol consumption played into the case, injuries sustained by Mr. Torres, and much more. 

 

Show Notes:

0:00 - Intro

1:40 - Background and overview of case

3:25 - Cause of death

5:40 - Positional asphyxiation

8:00 - What volume of oxygen does your brain require?

10:30 - What does lack of oxygen do to your body?

15:45 - How is it exactly that lack of oxygen makes you die?

18:05 - Fear of running out of oxygen

20:25 - Other items found in the suitcase

23:25 - Compression asphyxia vs. Positional asphyxia

26:35 - How compressed does your chest have to be for asphyxiation to occur?

28:45 - How much of a role did alcohol play in this case?

30:55 - Discovering a body in a suitcase

31:35 - Injuries Mr. Torres sustained

35:40 - Could Torres have gotten out of the suitcase?

37:55 - History of domestic violence

39:14 - Wrap up

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Oct 25, 2022
Suicide by Overdose Turns Out to be Something Far More Sinister - The Murder of Francis Kelly
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On Jan. 18, 2021, 46-year-old Francis Kelly’s body was discovered. Police find Kelly on his couch, in his home, and a bag of cocaine underneath him. The unexpected autopsy says he died of strangulation. All while during a heated custody battle between Kelly and Littlefield.  

In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and Jackie Howard discuss how Francis Kelly’s death was ultimately a staged overdose, the significant differences between fentanyl and cocaine, how the body reacts to the different drugs, why strangulation was not obvious to investigators, and much more! 

 

Show Notes:

0:00 - Introduction to Body Bags with forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and producer Jackie Howard 

0:36 - Brief overview of the homicide case involving victim Francis Kelly

1:14 - Introduction of CrimeOnline’s Jackie Howard

2:09 - When Francis Kelly's body was discovered, police found him on his couch in his home and a bag of cocaine underneath him

2:57 - The difference between fentanyl and cocaine

4:32 - Left ventricular hypertrophy

8:11 - Fentanyl was originally developed as a partner for surgical use

10:00 - How fentanyl works within the body vs. cocaine 

11:08 - Narcan and its uses

16:03 - Questions: How did he get the fentanyl in his body? Is that a normal way of taking fentanyl? Is that way going to have a different reaction in the body? Would he have tasted it? Does ingesting it offer a different kind of effect?  

19:26 - What is skin popping?

24:52 - “There is nothing as an investigator that will make you stop cold in your tracks than an unexpected result at autopsy. It's something that makes you question your abilities. It's something that makes you question the care that you took with the case because this is key: Once the scene has been left, the body has been removed from the scene, and can never reset.”

25:34 - Autopsy reports that Kelly was in fact strangled and did not OD as suspected 

26:32 - Question: Kelly was strangled with a tie. Why was that not originally obvious? Specifically, because ligature marks typically leave a mark  

31:51 - We later find out that Kelly's death was a result of a custody dispute between Littlefield and Kelly. Littlefield claimed Kelly was abusive

32:22 - Question: The other thing that we find out, which I find very interesting and kind of explains some things about the cocaine, knowing that he died from fentanyl and that it was cocaine that was found. We're looking at a good case of staging here, aren't we, Joe?

38:57 - The verdict is in

39:28 - Heidi Littlefield was sentenced to 115 years in a state prison, which included 60 years for murder. 20 years for attempted poisonings, and 35 years for conspiracy to commit murder resulting in a death

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Oct 18, 2022
The Murder of Nancy Anderson: DNA Technology Leads to An Arrest After 50 Years -
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On January 7th, 1972, Nancy Anderson, 19, is found dead in her Waikiki apartment with over 60 stab wounds. The case goes cold for fifty years until new DNA technology and detective work leads to the arrest of a suspect: Tudor Chirila Jr.

In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and Jackie Howard discuss the lack of evidence the crime scene, why Nancy’s roommate thought this might have been a suicide, distinguishing between stab wounds, how phenotyping lead to the breakthrough in this case, and much more. 

 

Show Notes:

0:00 - Intro

2:37 - Background and overview of case

4:15 - How do you investigate a case once it's gone cold?

7:20 - Stab wounds

11:30 - No evidence of foul play at the crime scene

15:45 - The roommate and thinking Nancy had comitted suicide 

18:40 - Water running in the bathroom

21:00 - How do you distinguish between wounds?

24:40 - The salesman as suspects

26:35 - Bathrooms as a popular crime scene

30:05 - Blood testing process

35:35 - How do you preserve evidence?

41:17 - What is Phenotyping and how did it help the investigation?

47:55 - Genealogy and a son

49:20 - The suspect is found

50:43 - Wrap up 

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Oct 11, 2022
Eliza Fletcher: Mother, Teacher, Heiress, and Victim
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Eliza Fletcher, a Memphis teacher and mother, is reported missing the morning of September 2, 2022 after she doesn't return home from her morning jog. A search is launched shortly thereafter and comes to an end on September 5th when her body is found by police. Suspect, Cleotha Abston has been arrested and charged for her murder. 

In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and Jackie Howard discuss what the autopsy report shows, what her cause of death was determined to be, what drugs were found in her system, and more.

 

Show Notes:

0:00 - Intro

0:50 - Background and overview of case

1:42 - The autopsy report: how you read it and what you learn from it

16:17 - Eliza’s cause of death

22:16 - What the gunshot wound tells us

26:23 - Internal and external beveling

28:03 - Le Fort fracture

32:25 - Submission

34:10 - Fentanyl 

40:13 - Was Eliza Fletcher raped?

43:36 - Wrap up 

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Oct 04, 2022
Double-Homicide on Campus: The Murder of Dr. Beth Potter and her Husband Robin Carre
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It’s the morning of March 31st, 2020 a jogger finds Dr. Beth Potter and her husband Robin Carre shot in the head execution-style in University of Wisconsin Arboretum. Carre is pronounced dead on the scene by police while his wife, who was still alive, was rushed to the hospital where she also dies. Initially the police believed this to be a random homicide, but after reviewing video surveillance and GPS data, they redirect their sights on a potential suspect: Khari Sanford - the boyfriend of the victim’s adopted daughter Mimi. 

In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and Jackie Howard discuss the gruesome nature of this case, how the cooler temperature affected the crime scene (specifically, the blood), how conscious Dr. Potter was for the hours that she was alive after the attack and the motive of the suspect. 

Show Notes:

0:00 - Intro

1:32 - Background and overview of the case

5:21 - Did Robin Carre die from his gunshot wound/was it exacerbated from the cold temperature?

7:23 - Was Dr. Potter really still breathing when they found her?

9:34 - The significance of the area where you’re shot

12:01 - How do we know the victims were killed on the pathway where they were found?

16:15 - Would the cooler temperatures affect the state of the blood found at the crime scene?

18:26 - Shell casings

21:10 - Was Dr. Potter in and out of consciousness the whole night before she was found?

25:14 - Finding the suspect, Khari Sanford (the boyfriend of the victim’s daughter)

29:41 - Hearsay and the weight is has in a court of law

33:20 - Sanford and Mimi (the victim’s daughter) reportedly spoke of the parents having “bands of money” and that they were “rich” 

36:35 - Wrap up and final details

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Sep 27, 2022
Staging a Murder-Suicide: The Familial Murder of Pamela and Helen Hargan
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Pamela Hargan and her daughter Helen were found dead in their home in McLean, Virginia, the victims of an apparent murder-suicide, in July 2017. Once police investigated further, they realized that the crime scene had been staged and this was a homicide that they were looking at. Eventually, police narrowed it down to one prime suspect - Pamela’s oldest daughter Megan. 

In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and Jackie Howard discuss how the police realized the crime scene was staged, the significance of where the gun was found, blood spatter patterns, how they came to suspect Pamela’s oldest daughter Megan, and much more.

 

Show Notes:

0:00 - Intro

1:32 - Background and overview of the case

3:35 - How did the police know that the crime scene had been staged?

7:05 - The significance of the location where the gun was found 

10:08 - The forces of gravity and homicide v. suicide investigations

15:45 - Gunshot residue

19:30 -  Blood spatter pattern

25:20 - After recreating the crime scene, what did they discover about Pamela’s death?

29:55 - What happens when someone is shot in the head?

34:30 - Pamela’s oldest daughter, Megan, is charged with the murder

38:35 - Megan’s phone call to her boyfriend

40:00 - After the police realized the crime scene was staged, how did they start investigating the case as a homicide?

44:25 -  Wrapping up and final details of the case

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Sep 20, 2022
The Hollywood Hills Homicide of Amie Harwick
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Dr. Amie Harwick, a sex therapist and former fiancé of actor Drew Carey, is found unresponsive under a balcony in her Hollywood Hills home on the morning of February 15th, 2020. She is rushed to the hospital, but unfortunately, passes away. The evidence at the crime scene and on Harwick’s body indicated signs of a struggle and her having been thrown from the balcony.  

In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and Jackie Howard discuss blunt force trauma, the difference between falling/being thrown from a great height, how to tell in what order injuries occur, and why a nicotine syringe became a major factor in this case.

 

Show Notes:

0:00 - Intro

1:25 - Background and overview of the case

3:45 - Where do you start with a case like this?

5:10 - Amie Harwick being thrown from her balcony

7:30 - How do we know she was thrown off the balcony?

15:45 - Do the injuries differ depending on whether you are thrown from a great height or fall from one?

19:00 - Blunt force trauma

20:10 -  How does the M.E. go about examining all the injuries?

25:50 - Is it possible that Amie was beaten and that caused the injuries to her liver, not the fall?

29:40 - How can you tell what order the injuries happened in?

32:00 - If Amie fell, and was not thrown, would her death still be considered blunt force trauma?

34:00 - Suspects in Amie’s case 

34:55 - How investigators suspect the murder played out

36:40 - Finding a nicotine filled syringe and what that signifies 

42:10 - Harwick’s ex-boyfriend, Gareth Pursehouse, becomes the prime suspect

44:45 - Pursehouse has been charged with murder, first degree residential burglary, and special circumstance allegation of lying in wait.

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Sep 13, 2022
BONUS: The Disappearance of Eliza Fletcher
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Eliza Fletcher, a 34-year old mother of Memphis, Tennessee went missing around 4am, September 2nd, 2022 while out for a morning run. CCTV footage shows her being forced into an SUV. An arrest has been made in connection to her disappearance.

Eliza Fletcher's remains have now been found and positively identified.

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Sep 06, 2022
Joshua Drennen's Murderous Rampage in Charleston, West Virginia
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First responders arrive at a “battle scene” in 77-year-old Barbara Steele's West Virginia home. Her body is beaten, eviscerated, and positioned on a makeshift altar by 28-year-old Joshua Drennen, who after leaving her residence, continues his string of assaults on unsuspecting civilians, until immobilized by a Charleston police officer. 

In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and Jackie Howard discuss the antique item used in the physical attacks and injuries sustained by Barbara Steele and two other individuals in the community.

 

Show Notes:

0:00 - Intro

2:46 - Description of an antique iron owned and utilized by 77-year-old Barbara Steele

6:47 - Police are alerted to a criminal act committed by Joshua Drennen inside Barbara Steele’s home

8:03 - Joe describes the crime scene, the assault on Barbara Steele’s vehicle, and her participation within the community.

10:45 - Jackie and Joe discuss the continued acts of violence by Joshua Drennen against a woman inside her parked vehicle

9:23 - An explanation of cubing injuries to a body from an explosion of safety glass and how investigators use that information to determine a body’s position within a vehicle

13:31 - Joshua Drennen’s continued acts of violence throughout the community 

17:29 - Charleston Police Patrolman Terrence Casto stops the threat by Joshua Drennen

18:24 - Joe describes the violent crime scene and the horrendous blunt force trauma Barbara Steele’s body experienced

26:21 - Beyond the trauma to her face and head, the police noticed Barbara's body had been eviscerated, as well as sexually assaulted post-mortem

31:33 - Joe and Jackie discuss the way Barbara Steele’s body was positioned and items located near her after the attack

35:49 - Why Barbara Steele and the woman in the parking lot?

37:24 - Overview of Joshua Drennen’s trial and conviction

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Sep 06, 2022
Courtney Clenney OnlyFans Model: Charged in Stabbing Murder
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Christian Obumseli, boyfriend of OnlyFans model Courtney Clenney is found by police in their Miami apartment fatally stabbed. The pair have been dating for approximately two years and have a reportedly “tumultuous” relationship. Courtney Clenney claims to have been acting out of self defense, but the physical evidence may seem to suggest something else. Courtney Clenney has since been charged with second degree murder.

In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and Jackie Howard discuss the details of the stabbing, the physical evidence found at the crime scene, the injuries sustained by Christian Obumseli that led to his death, and how witness testimony will play into this ongoing case.

 

Show Notes:

0:00 - Intro

2:09 - Courtney Clenney’s OnlyFans account and relationship with Christian Obumseli

3:44 - Video and pictures of Courtney Clenney covered in blood

5:00 - Courtney Clenney and Christian Obumseli’s lavish lifestyle 

7:32 - The 911 call and the physical evidence of the crime scene

12:02 - What are the police seeing at the crime scene?

18:58 - What it means for blood to “leech out”

22:03 - How the blood appeared on Courtney Clenney 

25:36 - The timeline of the crime

29:05 - Injuries sustained by Christian Obumseli

35:34 - Knowing what we know now, is Courtney Clenney claim that she threw the knife while acting in self defense possible?

40:51 - If what Courtney Clenney claims happened is true, would the remaining blood patterns be different?

44:20 -  How will the video evidence and witness statements of assault play into the case?

48:28 - How do you approach a “he said, she said” court case?

51:14 - Final thoughts and wrapping up the show

 

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Aug 30, 2022
Daniel Printz - Serial Killer
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Video surveillance captures the final images of 80-year-old Edna Suttles alive in a hotel parking lot in one of the most beautiful places in the United States, a tiny South Carolina town called Travelers Rest. Nearly a month after her disappearance, Edna's body is found buried across state lines in a wooded area of North Carolina. Investigators work tirelessly to piece together the events that lead to her death, and in the process, realize they’re dealing with a serial killer.

In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and Jackie Howard discuss the details of Edna Suttles’ death and the unexpected discovery during the investigation. They talk about the similarities between the four confirmed victims, the behavior of serial killers, and the methods Daniel Printz used to murder his victims.

Show Notes:

0:00 - Intro

3:16 - Joseph Scott and Jackie discuss the details of Edna Suttles’ disappearance

4:20 - Discussion about Edna Suttles as South Carolina’s first female bail bondsman, and the heightened awareness that someone develops while working in that career

5:55 - Who reported Edna as a missing person?

7:12 - The discovery of Edna’s body and why the FBI was involved in this case

9:23 - The ominous findings by the medical examiner 

11:52 - Surveillance video confirms Edna Suttles and Daniel Printz were in the same place and had some type of relationship

14:01 - The lethal cocktail that was given to Edna and how a body reacts when administered in those doses

15:22 - The unusual location on Daniel Printz’s property where he stored Edna’s belongings

18:34 - Using cadaver dogs to facilitate the discovery and recovery of remains

22:40 - The massive discovery by police at Daniel Printz’s home while investigating Edna’s death

25:56 - Connecting Daniel Printz to multiple murders through evidence found and commentary he made

28:42 - Analysis of serial killers’ behaviors and the unusual deviation Daniel Printz took in the murder of Nancy Rego

34:55 - Investigators learn of a fourth murder victim, Leigh Goodman

36:17 - Joe talks about Daniel Printz as a predator and the relationship between him and Leigh Goodman

39:04 - What sets these murders apart?

40:46 - Daniel Printz’s case is tried in the federal district court

42:27 - Where else has Daniel Printz been and who else has he impacted?

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Aug 23, 2022
Frozen in Time: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School
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On February 14, 2018, a 19-year-old named Nikolas Cruz opens fire on students and teachers at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, murdering 17 people and injuring 17 more. It is still the deadliest high school shooting in United States history, surpassing even the Columbine shooting, in 1999, which ended with 15 people dead. Nikolas Cruz arrives at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School via an Uber, constructs his firearm, and then begins his assault on his former classmates. 

In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and Jackie Howard discuss the details of the shooting, the weapon used in the attack, how the crime scene remains untouched after all these years, the reasons behind preserving the high school in this way, and the significance of the date of the shooting. 

 

Show Notes:

0:00 - Intro

0:45 - Joseph Scott and Jackie discuss the details of the shooting itself

7:45 - Did Cruz pull the fire alarm or could it have been triggered by smoke from the gun? 

9:23 - Explanation of the layout of the building, crime scene, and how investigators would go about analyzing it 

12:23 - The evolution of crime scene investigations

14:56 - The duration of the shooting and how hurricane proof glass ended up saving lives

19:01 - Nikolas Cruz’s background and how he blended in with students to escape the scene 

20:29 - Cruz’s arrest and recovery of the weapon 

21:30 - Joe talks about the weapon used in the attack

22:51 - The fear that teachers and students experienced seeing and hearing the gunshots

24:44 - Joe explains the Big Black Gun Theory 

27:18 -  Joe and Jackie discuss the crime scene remaining untouched since the shooting

28:50 - As evidence is collected, it’s sealed - how do you seal an entire building?

31:05 - Why would you want to leave a crime scene untouched for this long?

33:14 - Joe talks about the importance of chain of custody in forensics

35:34 - The reasons for preserving the high school in its condition 

39:22 - Joe talks about the significance of this occurring on Valentine’s Day 

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Aug 16, 2022
Behind the Locked Door, "Justice for Ellen"
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For more than ten years, the family of Ellen Greenberg has been looking for answers and justice. The 27-year-old first grade teacher and bride-to-be was found stabbed behind the locked door of her apartment. In fact, she was stabbed 20 times, including wounds to her back and head. The original finding by the medical examiner determined homicide. So, why does the final ruling say Ellen Greenberg committed suicide? Listen to former death scene investigator Joseph Scott Morgan's analysis, then join him as he and Nancy Grace recreate the crime scene and hear from Ellen Greenberg's parents in Teacher Death Mystery: A Nancy Grace Investigation,  streaming now on Fox Nation.  

Was it suicide, or did something more sinister happen to Ellen Greenberg?   

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Aug 13, 2022
Bianca Rudolph: Murder While on Safari
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Avid big game hunter, Bianca Rudolph, is found unresponsive in a cabin in Zambia with a gunshot wound to her chest. Her husband of 34 years, Dr. Larry Rudolph, the only other person in the cabin at the time, claims to have been showering when he heard the gunshot. He claims accidental discharge, but investigators disagree.  

In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and Jackie Howard discuss the likelihood of Bianca Rudolph accidentally shooting herself, the complications of working a crime scene in the wilderness of Africa, the odd behaviors displayed by her husband at the time of her death, and the tip that lead authorities to an in-depth investigation, and eventual guilty verdict of her husband, Dr. Larry Rudolph. 

 

Show Notes:

0:15 - Introducing the death of Dr. Larry Rudolph’s wife of 34 years, Bianca Rudolph

2:14 - While packing up following a two-week hunting trip in Zambia, Dr. Rudolph claims his wife accidentally shot herself

6:56 - Is it physically possible to shoot yourself while packing away a shotgun?

8:48 - Explanation of the type of gun that killed Bianca, and ruling out possible suicide

12:05 - Joe explains the injury sustained to Bianca’s body from multiple 30-caliber-sized projectiles

16:29 - Looking for evidence of powder distribution on Bianca’s body and clothing

19:32 - Smooth bore weapons vs rifled weapons

21:37 - Working a crime scene in the wilderness of one of the world’s largest game preserves and how bodies are back to the US from Africa

25:24 - Dr. Rudolph’s push to have Bianca’s body cremated within three days of her death and the steps taken by the consular chief in Zambia to document her injuries

27:49 - The tip that leads to an in-depth FBI investigation

29:57 - Events that lead authorities to conclude Bianca’s death was no accident

34:09 - Odd behavior displayed by Dr. Larry Rudolph in the moments after he heard the gunshot

38:21 - Joseph Scott describes what happens when a round passes through an intermediate target and the amount of blood that he would be expected to be present in that situation.

40:39 - When the body is assaulted by such an event, does it fall in a specific manner?

42:47 - Resolution in the case against Dr. Larry Rudolph

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Aug 09, 2022
The Murders of Scott Sessions and Heather Frank
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Talented and beloved musician, Scott Sessions, is found brutally murdered in an ambush attack, his throat slashed to near decapitation. Shortly afterward, his lover, who lured him to the moment of his death, Heather Frank, is also found dead with gunshot wounds to her chest. Investigators find Heather Frank wrapped in the same burnt plastic as they found Scott Sessions. The suspect? Heather Frank’s boyfriend, Kevin Eastman.

In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and Jackie Howard discuss the horrific murders of Scott Sessions and Heather Frank. They delve into the mechanics of murder by an edged weapon to the throat, the pathology of an enraged killer, rendering a body by fire, and the connective evidence found at both crime scenes.

 

Show Notes:

1:00 - Introducing the deaths of Scott Sessions and Heather Frank

3:39 - The connection between Scott Sessions, Heather Frank, and Kevin Eastman

4:55 - The visibility of a toxic, abusive relationship on a body

6:54 - Anatomy of bruises and how professionals grade them in abuse cases

13:08 - What happened to Scott Sessions

14:54 - The mechanics of slitting a throat with an edged weapon

17:05 - Volume of blood within the body, types and locations of injuries that cause blood loss, and the forensic importance of a victim’s blood that has pooled outside of the body 

22:14 - The horrific injuries Scott Sessions sustained 

27:30 -  Pathology of a killer who is full of anger and rage

29:18 - The death of Heather Frank

31:59-  Why did Heather have to die?

34:36 - The failed attempt to render down Scott’s body by fire and the common evidence found on both victims

39:07 - Looking for connectivity/tieback in forensics: evidence found at both crime scenes

41:57 - The discovery of Scott Sessions and Heather Frank’s bodies

43:57 - The conviction of Kevin Eastman 




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Aug 02, 2022
The Murders of Tylee and JJ: The DNA Solution?
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Tylee Ryan and J.J. Vallow’s bodies are discovered on June 9, 2020, on the property of Chad Daybell in Rexburg, Idaho. After months of missing person investigations, complicated circumstances surrounding their disappearance, and a string of suspicious deaths, police have charged Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell in the horrific murders of Tylee Ryan and J.J. Vallow. 

 

In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and Jackie Howard discuss the complex case against Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell in the murders of Tylee Ryan and J.J Vallow. They also discuss the striking differences between the ways in which Tylee and J.J 's bodies were treated post-mortem, complications of processing the crime scene, and the request to allow for forensic DNA testing on the evidence collected by the state of Idaho.

 

Show Notes:

1:00 - Introducing the deaths of Tylee Ryan and Joshua Jaxon “J.J.” Vallow

1:54 - Sections 1: A brief history of the confusing events that led to finding the remains of Tylee and J.J. buried on the property of Chad Daybell

5:29 - The mysterious death of Tammy Daybell

8:03 - Cause of death: natural causes, a seemingly inaccurate determination for a physically active woman who was in good health

10:32 - Searching for physical evidence of the cause of death in an exhumed embalmed body

12:00 - How authorities located the remains of Tylee and J.J. 

15:41 - The striking differences between the treatment of Tylee and J.J.'s bodies

18:32 - Section 2: Processing the crime scene

20:57 -  Examining the evidence on the tape and plastic bag encasing J.J. Vallow

22:17 - The problem with cutting open a bag containing remains at the crime scene

24:07- Recovery of Tylee’s remains

28:24 - Individualization of evidence: examining every bone fragment of a dismembered body

30:16 - Section three: Forensic DNA testing on the evidence recovered at Daybell’s property by the state’s crime scene unit 

33:40 - Specific evidence found at the crime scene

39:30 - Consumptive testing: setting a dangerous precedent by allowing third-party observers 




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Jul 26, 2022
Lorenzen Wright: Death of the Basketball Star
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Lorenzen Wright, an NBA star basketball player, goes missing on the night of July 18th, 2010 leading to a 10-day search that ends when investigators find Lorenzen Wright’s remains in a heavily wooded area near Germantown, Tennessee. By the time his body is found, the 6’11” star athlete has decomposed to the point of his remains totaling only 57 pounds, just one of the many struggles that investigators need to overcome in order to solve this case.

It took over 7 years, but investigators finally found the gun that they believe was used to murder Lorenzen Wright, leading to multiple convictions related to 1st Degree Murder.

In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and Jackie Howard provide details on Lorenzen’s life including the death of one of his children, the financial troubles that may have played a role in the motives behind his murder, and why it can be so difficult to find sufficient evidence in a forensic investigation that starts ten days after a death has occurred.

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Jul 19, 2022
The Staged Suicide of Emily Noble
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Emily Noble goes missing on the night of her 52nd birthday. Leaving behind her phone, keys, ID, wallet, and car, with no signs of a forced entry, and her husband claiming that he went to bed in the couple's guest room; Emily Noble has essentially vanished in the middle of the night.

In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and Jackie Howard detail the search effort, potential pathways to solve any case that begins with almost no tangible evidence, and the unfortunate scene when Emily Noble's body is finally found.

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Jul 13, 2022
The Murder of Tammy Jo Blanton
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Tammy Jo Blanton's body is found in her bathtub by police responding to a welfare check request. Just the night before, September 10th, 2014, Blanton called 911, saying that her ex-boyfriend, Joseph Oberhandsley, would not leave the front of her home. The welfare check had been requested by Blanton's friend and co-worker when Blanton did not show up for work. When police arrive at the home, Joseph Oberhandsley answers the door, covered in blood. Police find signs of a forced entry, and ultimately Tammy Jo Blanton's body. She has not only been stabbed repeatedly, but her body mutilated and also cannibalized. 

In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and Jackie Howard discuss the differences between dismemberment and mutilation, the perspective of the judge and jury when it is revealed that injuries to the body are post-mortem, and the horrific details in the case of Tammy Jo Blanton’s murder.

 

Show Notes:

0:30 - Introducing Tammy Jo Blanton’s murder

1:30 - Tammy Jo Blanton calls the police because her ex-boyfriend, Joseph Oberhansley would not leave her home

3:00 - Describing the initial murder scene

5:00 - Cause of death: sharp force injuries. Multiple stab wounds all over her body.

10:00 - How exactly does the body stop functioning when you are stabbed to death?

12:30 - Post-mortem vs Antemortem 

13:30 - The additional “twisting of the knife” when injuries to a deceased body are post-mortem

14:00 - Section 2: Walking into the crime scene

16:30 - A section of Tammy Jo’s chest is open, a parts of her heart and a lung are missing

18:00 - The differences between dismemberment and mutilation

20:00 - A jigsaw was found on the scene. This continues to show evidence of how much time it took to mutilate the body

23:00 - Section 3: Joseph Oberhansley’s mental state and the trial for this case

27:00 - Oberhansley’s criminal record included shooting his own mother, shooting and killing the teenage mother of his child. He had also shot himself, attempting suicide in the past.

29:30 - An exploration into the different types of cannibalism

33:00 - Joseph Oberhansley was sentenced to life in prison, without the possibility of parole

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Jul 05, 2022
Heroin Homicide of Anjelica “AJ” Hadsell
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College freshman AJ Hadsell returns home for spring break, March 2015. Five weeks later her body is discovered face-down in a ditch, covered by a sheet of plywood. Investigators immediately identify that foul play is involved. Deep bruises are visible on Hadsell's torso and face. Hadsell has been murdered. Detectives turn their attention towards AJ’s stepfather, Wesley Hadsell, as their primary suspect, but why?

 

AJ Hadsell dies of a heroin overdose, but the family is adamant that AJ did not use drugs. Here is the first connection to the stepfather. Wesley Hadsell has been kicked out of the family home by AJ’s mother due to his drug use, heroin specifically. Then, authorities find suspicious items in his car, including some of AJ’s belongings, as well as duct tape and a shovel. 

 

In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and Jackie Howard explore and explain the details of AJ’s murder, the difficulties of investigating a body that has been outside and exposed to the elements for weeks, and why AJ’s stepfather, Wesley Hadsell, was the first suspect in this case.

 

Show Notes:

01:00 - Introducing the case; 18 year old AJ Hadsell, found face-down in a drainage ditch.

05:00 - The murder investigation begins immediately upon finding AJ Hadsell’s body.

06:40 - Why it was obvious that this was a death caused by another person, from the autopsy table.

11:00 - Once a body has excessive decomposition, it can be very difficult to ascertain cause, method, and/or modes of death.

15:30 - The unique and morbid skillset that Medical Death Investigators need to have in order to be successful in their jobs.

16:00 - The mode of death in the case of AJ Hadsell. 

21:00 - With three times the lethal amount of Heroin found in her body, AJ Hadsell’s life had a horrific ending.

24:00 - Heroin as a mode of murder and the search for AJ’s killer.

25:30 - Drug testing via hair follicle and how this helped authorities rule out self-administered accidental Heroin overdose.

30:00 - Who had access to AJ Hadsell and could remove her from her home without signs of distress?

31:00 - Wesley Hadsell’s history of violence against women and other evidence used by investigators to charge Wesley with the murder of AJ Hadsell

32:30 - The tragedy in this case continues to intensify as details about the positioning of AJ’s clothing on her body when she was found.

37:30 - Determining assault can be extremely difficult after weeks of decomposition.

38:00 - Wesley Hadsell was found guilty of First-degree Murder and Concealment of a Dead Body in February, 2022. He maintains his innocence. He has been sentenced to Life + 15 years in prison. 

 

Rest in peace, Anjelica “AJ” Hadsell. 1996 - 2015.

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Jun 28, 2022
Reggie and Carol Sumner....Buried Alive
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Murdered in a uniquely gruesome and prolonged series of events; Reggie and Carol Sumner are the helpless victims of a month-long plan carried out with the help of a familiar face. Buried alive in a pre-dug hole near the Florida/Georgia line, these two high-school sweethearts suffer their terrible end at the hands of Tiffany Cole, her boyfriend Michael James Jackson, Alan Wade, and Bruce Kent Nixon, Jr.

Tiffany Cole buys a vehicle from the Sumner family and travels to Jacksonville regularly to pay down her debt. That is, until her new boyfriend,  Michael James Jackson,  hatches a plan that ends in the Sumners' deaths.

After being buried alive, under hundreds of pounds of dirt, an autopsy determines that the couple's cause of death is mechanical asphyxiation (i.e. physical interference with breathing and or circulation).    In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and Jackie Howard take a closer look at these horrifying deaths.  

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Jun 21, 2022
The Exhumation of Gloria Satterfield
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The body of Gloria Satterfield, longtime housekeeper for disgraced South Carolina lawyer Alex Murdaugh, will be exhumed. Satterfield died after a trip and fall accident at the Murdaugh home. No autopsy was performed and her manner of death listed as natural. Now,  after the string of deaths linked to the Murdaugh name, investigators want to know more.  Exhumations are not ordered for just any old case, but when a court orders the  embalmed remains of a human being be uninterred,  everyone pays attention, including our forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan.   In this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan and Jackie Howard discuss what exhumation is, and why exhumation must be handled with the utmost of care.  

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Show Notes:
Introduction [02:00]
Events that lead to the pending exhumation of Gloria Satterfield  [03:32]
Judiciary regulations regarding exhumations  [05:58]
The effect that embalming (or not) has on exhumations, and factors that impact a successful exhumation and investigation [08:31]   
Joseph Scott Morgan describes the investigative process, vital medical records, and test results he would study prior to the exhumation of Gloria Satterfield [17:08]
The impact that medical intervention, autopsy, and body preparation for burial have on the investigation of a trauma-related death, and the particular problem with the Gloria Satterfield case [20:24]
Information investigators will be looking for when reviewing Gloria’s body [27:27]
The types of professionals who perform autopsies of exhumed bodies, and concerns regarding the omission of the South Carolina medical-legal community in the Satterfield case  [29:46]
Kathleen Savio, Shele Danishefsky Covlin, and other high-profile exhumation cases in the US [32:36]

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Jun 14, 2022
The Case Against Nancy Crampton Brophy
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Beloved chef Daniel Brophy is found shot to the death in the kitchen of the culinary institute where he works. There is no sign of forced entry at the Oregon Culinary Institute Instructor, in fact, the door is locked. Students coming into class that day say it's normal for Brophy to come in early, set up the day's instruction, then open the door to students. On this day, that didn't happen. Another instructor had to open the door and that's when Brophy is found shot twice. Who killed Dan Brophy,  and why? Ultimately, police build a circumstantial case against Nancy Crampton Brophy, the chef's wife.  Where's the proof?

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Jun 07, 2022
The Death of Kathleen Peterson: Accident , Murder or Owl
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December 9th, 2001, novelist Michael Peterson calls 911 telling the operator that he's found his wife at the bottom of stairs in their home. She is still breathing, but there's lots of blood coming from her head.  Kathleen Peterson later dies.  When police and emergency personnel first enter the home, Peterson's injuries are characterized as accidental and the scene is not handled properly, forensically.  Soon, however, the facts do not add up and Michael Peterson is charged with murder. Kathleen Peterson has seven head injuries. So where does the owl come in? The owl theory speculates that an owl attacked Kathleen,  precipitating her fall, but in fact, this theory never makes it into court. Michael Peterson is found guilty at trial, and sentenced to life in prison. Eight years later, he is granted a new trial after evidence comes to light that a prosecution witness lied.  Peterson is eventually released. New charges aren't filed because Michael Peterson takes an Alford plea. This allows him to not admit guilt, but rather acknowledge that the state has enough evidence to convict.   Peterson said he simply didn't want to go through another trial ordeal.  He was sentenced to time served.

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May 26, 2022
The Mysterious Disappearance of Tara Grinstead
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Teacher and former beauty queen Tara Grinstead vanishes from her Georgia home. There is no sign of forced entry. There is no sign of a struggle, but some things were out of place. Grinstead's bedside clock was found under her bed, and a broken lamp was propped against the wall on her nightstand. 

The 30-year-old attended a beauty pageant and a cookout with co-workers before  going home.  Friends and family called Grinstead the next day, but couldn't reach her. When Grinstead did not show up to teach at Irwin County High school, co-workers called police.   

Some 12 years later, Grinstead's remains are found in a pecan orchard and two of her past students charged with her murder. Today on Body Bags,  forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan looks at what details may have been overlooked at the time of Tara's disappearance. 

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May 17, 2022
Introducing 'Shattered Souls: The Car Barn Murders' | Episode One: "The Oldest Cold Case"
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SPECIAL LOOK AT THE HIT PODCAST! "Shattered Souls: The Car Barn Murders." Retired detective Karen Smith discovers that her father kept a family secret for decades. In 2002, her father revealed that Karen's great uncle, Emory Smith, was the victim of a heinous murder and that her grandfather had been held as a suspect. Karen begins her journey to solve her great uncle Emory's murder. 

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May 12, 2022
Live From CrimeCon Las Vegas: The Death of Ellen Greenberg
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Recorded live in front of a studio audience at CrimeCon in Las Vegas, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan re-examines the injuries to Ellen Greenberg. The teacher and soon-to-be-bride, is found death in her apartment with more than 20 stab wounds, and her death is ruled a suicide. 

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May 10, 2022
The Lindquist Triple Murder
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Kenneth, Janet and Matthew Lindquist die at the hands of two vicious killers. 21-year-old Matthew Lindquist, a recovering heroin addict, has a relapse and makes a deal with Sergio Correa, exchanging his dad's guns for drugs. Correa shows up to the deal with his adopted sister Ruth, and the carnage begins. The couple chases Matthew into the woods, hacking him to death with a machete. It is months before Matthew's body is found. The Correa's then invade the Lindquist home, pulling the parents from their bed, beating them with a baseball bat, strangling Janet, then setting the house on fire to cover their evil. Today on Body Bags, forensic expert Joseph Scott Morgan explains the extensive injuries. 

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May 05, 2022
The Todt Family Massacre
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Celebration, Florida police are asked to do a wellness check on the Todt family, who haven't been heard from in days. No one seems to be home at the residence. Soon thereafter federal agents, accompanied by local police, show up to serve an arrest warrant on Tony Todt.  Todt owns Family Physical Therapy and he's being investigated on fraud charges.  When investigators enter the home, they find the bodies of Todt's family, his wife, three children and the family dog.   Today on Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan looks at the Todt family massacre. 

   

   

 

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Apr 25, 2022
The Terrible Deaths of Russell and Shirley Dermond
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After seven years, the murders of Russell Dermond, 88 and his 87-year-old wife Shirley, remain unsolved. Friends go to check on the couple days after the Dermonds did not show up for a planned Kentucky Derby party. The headless body of Russell Dermond is found in the garage. Police say there is no forced entry to the home, nor is the house ransacked. Shirley Dermond's body is found 5 miles away, murdered and floating in a lake. Her body has been weighted down by cement blocks. Today on Body Bags, forensics expert and professor Joseph Scott Morgan explains what possible evidence may have been left behind.

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Apr 18, 2022
Murder Between Friends
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Linda Collins was a self-made woman. She built a financial empire based in real estate and hotel management. Her passion, however, was love of community. She worked tirelessly to support the area in which she lived, by supporting improvements in tourism and civic pride. Collins was elected to both the state house and senate. Her body was found wrapped in a tarp at the end of her driveway. What happened to Linda Collins?

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Apr 11, 2022
The Murder of Andre Daigle
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After a long, hard work week , Andre Daigle looks to have a few laughs, a few beers, and a round or two of pool. What he had was a run in with evil. Daigle mets a woman at a Kenner. She lures him to her apartment. It's a plan set in motion by Charles Gervais, 24, of New Orleans, and Michael Phillips, 21, of Kenner. The men wanted to see if they had the nerve to kill someone, anyone, and Andre Daigle was the random person chosen. Once in the apartment, the men took turns beating Daigle on the head with a hammer, then strangled him with a vacuum cleaner cord. Then it was time to dispose of the body. Daigle was wrapped in curtains and placed inside a sofa, then dumped in a weedy area off a highway.

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Apr 04, 2022
The Death of Savannah Hardin
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Savannah Hardin lied. She ate a candy bar given to her by a classmate. Hardin was not allowed to eat chocolate due to a medical condition, made worse by consuming caffeine. When her Joyce Hardin Garrard found out, the Alabama grandmother made the 9-year-old run. Eye witnesses told police that Garrard, made the little girl run for more than three hours without stopping. The little girl was also forced to carry firewood. By 6:30 that night, Savannah was on the ground, vomiting and seizing. Savannah died at the hospital days later from extreme physical exertion, an autopsy ruled. Her grandmother was convicted of capital murder.

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Mar 27, 2022
The Corn Rake Murder
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Todd Mullis calls 911 as he drives his wife to an Iowa hospital. Amy Mullis was found by the couple's 13-year-old son, impaled on a corn rake and does not survive her injuries. An autopsy is completed and the forensic pathologist finds not four puncture wounds in Mullis' back, but six. The corn rake Todd Mullis says his wife fell on, only has four tines. Also, while Mullis told police he had a good relationship with his wife, investigators learn that Amy was apparently unhappy in the marriage and had at least two affairs. She reportedly told a friend that if Mullis caught her he would “throw her to the pigs.” Court documents showed Amy Mullis called a friend petrified and screaming that Todd Mullis had found out about her affair. Todd Mullis is arrested and convicted of killing his wife.

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Mar 18, 2022
The Tri-State Crematory
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Twenty years ago, the discovery of a human skull would reveal one of Georgia’s most gruesome and bizarre crimes. More than 300 decomposing bodies were found discarded on the grounds of the Tri-State Crematory. Located in the mountains of northwest Georgia, the facility serviced funeral homes in Georgia, Tennessee and Alabama. An investigation revealed the abused could have been going on as long as the mid-1990's. The owner, Ray Brent Marsh, ultimately served 13 years in prison for multiple charges including abusing a corpse, burial service-related fraud and theft by deception. Even now, two decades later, not all of the remains have been identified. Today on Body Bags, forensics expert and former death scene investigator Joseph Scott Morgan reveals what it's like to work such a horrific case.

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Mar 06, 2022
The Last Thanksgiving.
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Joel Guy Sr., 61, and Lisa Guy, 55, were stabbed to death inside their Knoxville home following Thanksgiving. Prosecutors said Joel Guy, Jr., 28, killed his parents after they informed him they planned to retire and would be cutting him off financially.

Guy Jr. stabbed his father at least 42 times and his mother at least 30 times. He then dismembered their bodies and put their arms, torsos, and legs in plastic bins containing corrosive chemicals in an attempt to dissolve them.

Court testimony revealed that Guy, Sr.’s head was placed facedown in the corrosive chemicals. Guy, Jr. also decapitated his mother and put her severed head in a covered stockpot — which he then placed on a burning stove. The couple’s bodies were discovered the following Monday after Lisa Guy failed to come to work. Guy, Jr. was sentenced to two life sentences, consecutively with an additional four years for abuse of a corpse.

Today, forensics expert and former death scene investigator Joseph Scott Morgan looks at the case.

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Feb 25, 2022
The Detailed Death of Brian Laundrie
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The release of autopsy and forensic reports for Brian Laundrie provides an interesting study in forensics. When Laundrie, 23, was found dead of an apparent suicide, police had been searching for him in connection to the death of his girlfriend Gabby Petito. The newly-released documents show that Laundrie’s “skeletal remains and personal effects were in plain sight and scattered upon the dirt ground.”

Details also show that the area had been underwater, which could explain why investigators did not discover the remains sooner. The documents strongly indicate Laundrie died quite some time before his body was found, as there was no soft tissue left on the skeleton. There was also an indication of animal activity characterized by gnawing and chewing. Investigators reportedly believe that wild dogs, coyotes, and/or vermin were among the animal predators that disturbed the remains. The medical examiner’s report shows that Brian Laundrie killed himself with a single bullet, which entered his skull on the left side.

Today on Body Bags, forensics expert and former death scene investigator Joseph Scott Morgan explains the details and the significance.

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Feb 18, 2022
The Murder of the Amato Family
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Most men will do just about anything for a girlfriend, but would you murder your own family? Grant Amato did for a woman who was only his girlfriend in his own mind. After losing his job, Grant Amato became obsessed with a Bulgarian Webcam model. Night after night, Amato watched "Silvie" model, dance and more. He paid upwards of $200,000 for access to "Silve" and her online content, including sexually explicit photos and videos. When Amato began stealing money from his family to keep his "connection" to "Silvie," his family stepped in, getting him professional help. This did not stop Amato. His family gave him an ultimatum. Stop communicating with Silvie or move out. On January 25 ,2019, Grant Amato shot and killed his mother, father and brother inside their Orlando home. Amato was convicted of first-degree murder and a sentenced to life in prison.

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Feb 11, 2022
The Unspeakable Death of Ingrid Lyne
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40-year-old Ingrid Lyne, a mother of three, disappears after a date to a professional baseball game. Her date, 37-year-old John Charlton, tells police he was too drunk the night before to remember what happened. Lyne's partial remains were found in a recycling bin miles away from her home. Investigators believe Lyne was killed in her own home, and dismembered in the bathtub with a 15-inch pruning saw. Human flesh and blood were found in the bathtub drain. An investigation finds that Charlton has a criminal history in six states and that his parents had taken out a restraining order against him. Today on Body Bags, forensics expert and former death scene investigator Joseph Scott Morgan looks at what it would take to go through with this type of grisly crime.

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Feb 04, 2022
The Death of Diane McIver
2017

Diane McIver was riding in the front passenger seat of a Ford Expedition SUV when she was shot by her husband Tex McIver. He admitted that to police. The question, as the investigation went on, was whether the firing was intentional or discharged by accident. Tex McIver claimed the latter...that the .38-caliber snub-nose revolver, discharged by accident. McIver's attorneys have filed an appeal of his murder conviction, claiming the judge made several errors during the trial. Today on Body Bags, former death scene investigator and forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan looks at what the evidence tells us.

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Jan 29, 2022
A Drive With Daddy
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A meal with Daddy at Chick-fil-A... that's what 22-month-old Cooper Harris enjoys the June morning that he dies. Father Justin Ross Harris, 41, takes his son to breakfast, and then instead of turning toward the daycare to drop off his son, Harris drives to work, parks his SUV in the lot and heads inside. The little boy is still strapped in his car seat. The temperatures that day are over 90 degrees outside, and 125 degrees in the car, according to experts. Cooper Harris suffers heatstroke and dies. Justin Ross Harris returns from lunch, stops to put a purchase inside the car, but doesn't see his son inside. The discovery of the body happens that evening as Harris is driving home. He pulls over into a parking lot, unlocking the lifeless body of his only child from it's restraints. Harris is charged and convicted of eight counts including malice murder. A judge sentences him to life without parole as well as 32 more years in prison. Now the killer dad is asking for a new trial. Today on Body Bags, former death scene investigator and forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan walks us through the terrible details of this case.

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Jan 22, 2022
Dishonor Thy Father and Mother
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On July 1, Bart and Krista Halderson decide to go to their lakeside cottage...at least that's what their son, Chandler, says. Six days later, the 23-year-old reports his parents as missing. An investigation ensues, and a series of lies are uncovered, lies that start long before Chandler Halderson says he parents went on a trip.

Halderson is now charged with first-degree intentional homicide, mutilating and hiding a corpse, and giving false information to authorities. Police say Halderson killed his parents and dismembered their bodies after Bart and Krista discover their son's untruths.

Today, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan breaks down the gruesome details surrounding this case, including how police believe Halderson burned his parents' skulls in the fireplace.

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Jan 15, 2022
Coroner Versus Medical Examiner
1837

A body is found. Investigators are called, but who's going to show up? Will it be a coroner or a medical examiner? Today on Body Bags, former death investigator Joseph Scott Morgan answers the question: What's the difference?

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Dec 30, 2021
Chaos at Astroworld
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A chaotic opening night at the Astroworld Festival results in 10 people dead and hundreds more injured, as the crowd of 50,000 people surges toward the stage during Travis Scott's concert. Victims range in age from 9-years-old to 27-years-old. According to the medical examiner's report all 10 of the victims died from compression asphyxia. Today on Body Bags, former death scene investigator Joseph Scott Morgan explains the physical aspects of this type of death.

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Dec 23, 2021
Gannon Stauch - Not Missing, Murdered
2048

11-year-old Gannon Stauch is reported missing by his stepmother. Two months later the boy's body is found 1400 miles away from his Colorado home. We now know, Gannon Stauch was, according to police, murdered in his bedroom by his stepmother.  Recovered evidence supports a violent event occurred in the bedroom with blood spatter on the walls, and soaked through the carpet. Police say Stauch was shot in the jaw and stabbed more than 18 times. Today, forensics expert and former death scene investigator Josph Scott Morgan, breaks down the evidence that could be used in Leteica Stauch.

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Dec 17, 2021
The Strange Case of Tammy Daybell
1804

Chad Daybell's trial for multiple counts of first-degree murder is set to begin just after the new year. The Idaho man is accused of killing his wife, Tammy Daybell and the children of the woman he marries just two weeks after Tammy died. JJ and Tylee Vallow are missing for months before their bodies are found on Daybell's property. At first, Tammy Daybell's death is ruled natural cases. The seemingly healthy 49-year-old is training to run a 4K race, but Chad Daybell reports that his wife is dead in the bed beside him one morning. The coroner does not attend the scene, only officers who say the death appears to be natural. What's more, an autopsy is refused by the family.  As bodies seem to pile up around the newlywed family, questions are raised. Other deaths connected to this investigation include Lori Vallow Daybell's ex-husbands, and her brother. Today on Body Bags, forensic expert and former death scene investigator Joseph Scott Morgan looks into the unexplained death of Tammy Daybell. 

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Dec 09, 2021
The Skull in the Swamp
2058

After weeks of searching for Brian Laundrie, the main suspect in the death of his girlfriend Gabby Petito, a partial skull is found in the Myakkahatchee Creek Environmental Park in Florida. The remains and skull are confirmed to belong to Laundrie. The medical examiner concluded laundrie died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head. Today on Body Bags, forensics expert and former death scene investigator Joseph Scott Morgan explain what we can learn from the recovered skull. 

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Dec 02, 2021
Dead at Daddy's Hands
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A South Carolina dad drives his five children around the deep south for nine days. Their bodies are in garbage bags in the trunk. Timothy Jones Jr. strangles four of them. The other, a 6-year-old boy named Nahtahn, is forced to exercise until he dies. The dad uses the activity as punishment after he accuses Nahtahn of breaking an electrical outlet in the home. After driving for almost two weeks, Jones dumps the bags off a logging road in rural Alabama. Today on Body Bags, forensic expert Joseph Scott Morgan explains what happened to the children's bodies.  

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Nov 24, 2021
Murder in Piedmont Park
2230

Katherine “Katie” Janness takes her dog, Bowie, for a late-night walk in the Midtown area of Atlanta. Janness stops at a local bar to say hello to her girlfriend, who's working.  When Janness' girlfriend gets off work, no one is home, but should have been. After unanswered phone calls and texts, Emma Clark uses the 'find my phone' app, which leads her to a horrifying discovery. Just inside Atlanta's popular Piedmont Park, 40-year-old Katherine Janness has been brutally attacked, stabbed more than 50 times, and her body horrifically mutilated. 

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Nov 19, 2021
Dead on a Bali Vacation
2036

Teen Heather Mack and her mother Sheila von Wiese-Mack plan a tropical vacation. The pair goes to Bali to work on their relationship, but they're not the only ones. Heather Mack buys her boyfriend a ticket, using her mother's credit card. Within 10 hours of Tommy Schaefer's arrival, the 62-year-old socialite is dead. Von Wiese-Mack is bludgeoned to death by Schaeffer with a heavy fruit bowl, and her body stuffed inside a suitcase. The lovers and soon-to-be parents are charged and convicted. Tommy Schaefer is still in an Indonesian prison. Heather Mack served 7 years of her ten-year sentence and gave birth behind bars. She was recently released and expelled from Bali. Upon her arrival back in the U.S., Mack was taken into custody on multiple charges. Today, forensics expert and former death scene investigator Joseph Scott Morgan explains the carnage to Sheila von Wiese-Mack's body. 

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Nov 12, 2021
The Chris Watts Murders
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Chris Watts’ wife and daughters were missing for three days before their bodies were found on the dad's former jobsite at Anadarko. Shanann Watts was buried in a shallow grave. The girls were stuff through hatches into oil tanks. During the days before the bodies were discovered, Watts played the grieving dad, giving interviews, begging for information on his missing family. What no one knows is Chris Watts is having an affair, and no longer wants to be part of a family unit. Murder was his way out. Ultimately, he tells police where he deposited their bodies. Today on Body Bags, former death scene investigator and forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan walks us through what investigators would have found at Anadarko.

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Nov 04, 2021
Behind the Locked Door
1948

For more than ten years, the family of Ellen Greenberg has been looking for answers and justice. The 27-year-old first grade teacher and bride-to-be was found stabbed behind the locked door of her apartment. In fact, she was stabbed 20 times, including wounds to her back. The original finding by the medical examiner determined homicide. So, why does the final ruling say Ellen Greenberg committed suicide? 

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Oct 29, 2021
Dead in Carlton Reserve
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The confirmation is in. The human remains found in Florida's Carlton Reserve is the body of fugitive Brian Laundrie, the person of interest in the murder of Gabby Petito. The Laundrie family attorney says his clients are grieving. Brian Laundrie reportedly told his parent that he was going hiking in the Carlton Reserve. That was September 13th. He had not been seen since. The FBI confirming that dental comparisons were used to make the identification. Death scene investigator Joseph Scott Morgan walks us through the process of how an identification is made.

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Oct 22, 2021
An Answer for Gabby
1736

After weeks of speculation, the cause of death for Gabby Petito has been released. When Petito's autopsy was performed, the coroner said quickly that Gabby was murdered. This week, we found out that the young woman was strangled to death by “human force.“ Dr. Brent Blue said that Petito was throttled. In today's Body Bags, death investigator Joseph Scott Morgan explain what throttling means, and what clues the coroner may have found to lead to that ruling. 

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Oct 14, 2021
Double Murder in the Low Country
1674

As news comes out the Maggie Murdaugh had sought the advice of a divorce attorney, Death Scene Investigator Joseph Scott Morgan takes us back to the Low Country of South Carolina to take a closer look at the double homicide of Maggie and Paul Murdaugh. Mother and son were found shot to death on June 7 at their family’s hunting lodge. Alex Murdaugh – Paul’s father and Maggie’s husband – discovered the bodies that evening after returning to the property. The victims, who were located outside the residence, had multiple gunshot wounds. No suspects have been named.

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Oct 06, 2021
Death in the Tetons
1842

Gabby Petito vanishes during a cross-country road trip with her boyfriend, Brian Laundrie. On Sept. 19, the FBI announces a body had been found in Wyoming. An autopsy confirms the remains belong to Petito. Her death is believed to be a homicide, but her cause of death remains a mystery. Why has Gabby Petito's cause of death not been revealed?

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Sep 29, 2021
Introducing 'Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan'
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Launching this week! Join Joseph Scott Morgan every week as he explores a world that not many have had a chance to visit, the realm of death. Jo Scott will lead listeners on journey through the blood soaked death scenes of America and then into the autopsy room to fully understand the science behind each case. Joseph Scott Morgan was the youngest death investigator in America when he began his career at the coroner's office in New Orleans, he finished up 20 years later in Atlanta where he was the senior investigator with the Fulton County Medical Examiner's Office.  Jo Scott is one America’s leading experts on applied forensics and is regularly featured on ‘Crime Stories with Nancy Grace’, ‘The Piketon Massacre’, Court TV and more.

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Sep 27, 2021