NATO’s Road to Madrid

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Hosted by Max Bergmann, director of the CSIS Europe, Russia, and Eurasia Program, “NATO’s Road to Madrid” explores how the United States’ most important alliance is approaching a critical process it has not undertaken since 2010: updating its Strategic Concept. The last time NATO endorsed a formal strategy, Russia had not invaded Ukraine, China was not yet thought to be a challenge meriting NATO attention, and defense planners were only beginning to look at the military implications of climate change, hybrid warfare, and other challenges. The full-scale Russian invasion of Ukraine in February 2022 has underscored the enduring importance of NATO. This podcast series will examine all these subjects, as well as how challenges from inside the alliance complicate its ability to respond effectively. Along the way, the series will try to help make sense of the inner workings of NATO, which are often opaque from the outside. In each episode, the Fellows will speak to experts on each item on NATO’s agenda as it adapts to this new era and responds to Russian aggression. The lead researcher and project coordinator of “NATO’s Road to Madrid” is Colin Wall and the podcast is edited by Ilana Nevins. This podcast is made possible with support from the NATO Public Diplomacy Division.

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NATO after Madrid
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In our final episode, NATO’s Road to Madrid comes full circle as Max sits down with original host Rachel Ellehuus, who is now helping steer U.S. NATO policy as the the Secretary of Defense representative in Europe and the defense advisor for the U.S. Mission to NATO. After our prior two episodes reacted to the Madrid Summit outcomes, Max and Rachel take this opportunity to look ahead to the future of the alliance. How will NATO implement the level of ambition in the Strategic Concept? What does the accession of Sweden and Finland mean for the alliance's "open door" policy? What does it mean to be a global alliance? Max and Rachel answer all these questions and more.
Aug 05, 2022
Assessing NATO's Summit with Ambassador David Quarrey
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In our second episode after NATO's historic summit, Max sits down with one of the key figures at Madrid, UK Permanent Representative to NATO David Quarrey. Ambassador Quarrey walks us through what it's like to participate in a NATO summit and breaks down the alliance's key decisions on Ukraine, Finland and Sweden, reinforcing the eastern flank, and the Strategic Concept.
Jul 28, 2022
NATO and the European Union
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After NATO’s summit at the end of June, the road to Madrid has reached its destination. To begin our analysis of the summit outcomes, Max sits down with Vice Admiral Hervé Bléjean, the Director-General of the European Union Military Staff. Vice Admiral Bléjean gives his view on the Madrid Summit and breaks down how NATO and the EU cooperate on everything from China to supporting Ukraine to procuring new military capabilities. 
Jul 06, 2022
NATO and the Global South
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In this episode, Pierre and Luis conduct two separate interviews with leading experts on Africa and Latin America. They discuss the key security dynamics in those regions, the differing strategic approaches taken by Russia and China there, and what role NATO and its members might play. In the first segment, Pierre interviews Elie Tenenbaum, director of the Security Studies Center at the Institut Français des Relations Internationales (IFRI) and a top European expert on African security affairs. In the second, Luis discusses Latin America with Dr. Robert Evan Ellis, a research professor at the U.S. Army War College and a senior, non-resident associate at CSIS. This interview includes a short Spanish-language segment.
Jun 22, 2022
NATO's Values with Congressman Gerry Connolly
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Max Bergmann, the new director of the CSIS Europe, Russia, and Eurasia Program, is joined by one of the leading voices on the Hill focused on NATO and European security: Congressman Gerry Connolly. The congressman gives a congressional viewpoint on a range of topics, but especially the importance of democratic values and political cohesion for the future of the alliance. The congressman also explained his role as President of the NATO Parliamentary Assembly and his expectations for the forthcoming Madrid Summit.
Jun 10, 2022
NATO in the Indo-Pacific
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In this episode of NATO's Road to Madrid, Pierre and Luis sit down with the brilliant Professor Michito Tsuruoka of the Keio University in Tokyo, one of the foremost experts on NATO in Asia. The three talk about everything from Japan’s critical role in the international response to Russia’s illegal invasion of Ukraine to the viability of an “Asian NATO”. Along the way, they discuss how China views the conflict in Ukraine, how NATO’s Indo-Pacific partners view the role of the alliance in their region, and the importance of European engagement in Asia.
May 19, 2022
NATO's Digital Revolution
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In this episode of NATO's Road to Madrid, Sean and Pierre are joined by Lieutenant General David Julazadeh, the Deputy Chief of Staff for Capability Development at NATO's Allied Command Transformation. Lt. Gen. Julazadeh talks with Sean and Pierre about the alliance's "Digital Transformation", the process for integrating new technologies into all NATO's capabilities, plans, and operations. He also touches on how the war in Ukraine is informing this process and what may happen at the NATO Summit in Madrid.
May 12, 2022
NATO After the Invasion
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NATO's Road to Madrid is back, at a critical time for the alliance. In this episode, hosts Pierre Morcos and Luis Simón are joined by two highly respected experts: Lauren Speranza, Director of the Transatlantic Defense and Security Program at the Center for European Policy Analysis (CEPA), and Dan Hamilton, a Senior Fellow at the SAIS Foreign Policy Institute, a non-resident Senior Fellow at the Brookings Institution, and a former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs. Together, the group breaks down NATO's response to Russia's illegal and brutal invasion of Ukraine, the alliance's potential vulnerabilities, and the effects of the invasion on NATO's development of its new Strategic Concept.
Mar 30, 2022
NATO in Space
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In episode four of NATO's Road to Madrid, Rachel is joined by two leading voices on space security issues from two sides of the Atlantic: Kaitlyn Johnson, Deputy Director and Fellow of the CSIS Aerospace Security Project, and Andrea Rotter, Head of Division for Foreign and Security Policy at the Hanns Seidel Foundation, a think tank in Munich. Rachel, Kaitlyn, and Andrea explain why space is so important to our daily lives and militaries, as well as how NATO's space-based capabilities could be threatened—both by adversary capabilities and by a lack of clear international norms for military conduct. They conclude by discussing how NATO might (and should) respond at the Summit in Madrid and in the new Strategic Concept.
Dec 21, 2021
The Future of NATO's Core Tasks
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In the third episode of NATO’s Road to Madrid, Rachel is joined by Admiral Rob Bauer, Chair of NATO’s Military Committee, and the senior-most military officer at NATO. In his role as Chair, Admiral Bauer serves as the primary military advisor to the NATO Secretary General and the North Atlantic Council, the alliance’s top decision-making body. Admiral Bauer explains the role of the Military Committee and the relationship between civilian and military leadership in NATO before shedding some light on the episode’s theme: the future of NATO’s other two core tasks, crisis management and cooperative security, in an era where the focus is back on collective defenses.
Dec 09, 2021
The Changing Nature of Deterrence and Defense
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In this episode of NATO's Road to Madrid, Rachel sits down separately with two guests to discuss the alliance's original and most core function: deterring and defending against threats to NATO members. The first segment is an interview with Jessica Cox, the Director of the Nuclear Policy Directorate at NATO. Rachel and Jessica break down the alliance's nuclear posture and how it is responding to changes in Russian nuclear policy and new additions to its dual-capable missile arsenal. In the second segment, Rachel interviews Mike Mazarr, a Senior Political Scientist at the RAND Corporation. Mike helps to explain how non-conventional and hybrid threats have made the development of deterrence concepts across multiple domains extremely difficult, for both the United States and NATO alike.
Nov 30, 2021
From Lisbon to Madrid
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Welcome to the inaugural episode of “NATO’s Road to Madrid”. In this episode, host Rachel Ellehuus of the Europe, Russia, and Eurasia Program at CSIS is joined by Ambassador Baiba Braže, Assistant Secretary General for Public Diplomacy at NATO, and Ambassador Alexander Vershbow, a Distinguished Fellow at the Atlantic Council. Together, the three take listeners on a trip from Lisbon to Madrid—from the adoption of NATO’s current Strategic Concept back in 2010 to the ongoing development of the new Strategic Concept, which will be adopted in summer 2022 at NATO’s Summit in Madrid. Along the way, they discuss how the security environment has changed around NATO in the past eleven years and explain how the Alliance is trying to keep pace.
Nov 22, 2021
NATO's Road to Madrid - Trailer
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Hosted by CSIS expert Rachel Ellehuus, “NATO’s Road to Madrid” explores how the United States’ most important alliance is approaching a critical process it has not undertaken since 2010: updating its Strategic Concept. The last time NATO endorsed a formal strategy, Russia had not invaded Ukraine, China was not yet thought to be a challenge meriting NATO attention, and defense planners were only beginning to look at the military implications of climate change, hybrid warfare, and other challenges. This podcast series will examine all these subjects, as well as how challenges from inside the alliance complicate its ability to respond effectively. Along the way, the series will try to help make sense of the inner workings of NATO, which are often opaque from the outside. In each episode of “NATO’s Road to Madrid”, Rachel will speak to guests with expertise on each item on NATO’s agenda as it adapts to this new era.
Nov 19, 2021