Messy Social Work

By Rich and Tim

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Episodes: 128

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Messy Social Work is a podcast for social workers, leaders, students and anyone interested in helping people navigate life's toughest challenges.


Hosted by Rich Devine and Tim Fisher, the podcast explores child protection, systemic practice, relationships, leadership, trauma, family support and the realities of frontline social work.


Each week, we speak with leading thinkers, practitioners, researchers and people with lived experience to explore what helps, what harms and what social work can learn from both success and failure.


Expect honest conversations, practical ideas, challenging questions and occasional disagreement, all grounded in a belief that meaningful change happens through relationships.


Because social work isn't neat.


It's messy.




Episode Date
Azariah Hope on Trauma, Loss, Recovery and the support that made the difference
Nov 13, 2026
Power, participation and the hidden dynamics of meetings.
Nov 05, 2026
A conversation about grief, belonging, and discovering who you are beyond caring for everyone else
Oct 23, 2026
What social workers need to know about working with fathers
Oct 16, 2026
Dr Beverly Barnett-Jones MBE on power, community and the purpose of social work
Oct 13, 2026
Episode 100: One hundred episodes of Messy Social Work
Oct 04, 2026
Terri-Anne on care experience, loneliness and the courage to challenge patterns passed down through generations
Sep 28, 2026
"I call her my second mum" The extraordinary relationship between care leaver Shakira and her Personal Advisor, Sarah.
Sep 18, 2026
What social workers get wrong in court: Insights from family barrister Gemma Chapman
Sep 11, 2026
Rich and Tim relational skills, networks, theory and leadership in Family Group Decision Making
Sep 03, 2026
Rich and Tim on Family Group Decision Making: Power, participation and family leadership
Aug 30, 2026
Peter Block: relationships, resistance and the relevance of 'Flawless Consulting'
Aug 19, 2026
Lee Crouch, a parent with lived experience of reunification: what social workers need to know
Jul 31, 2026
Practice lessons from the death of Victoria Marten (Part 2)
Jul 24, 2026
Practice lessons from the death of Victoria Marten
Jul 17, 2026
Connecting Research: Why social workers turn a blind eye and avoid mental pain in child protection
Jul 13, 2026
Rich and Tim on uncertainty, relationships and 14 lessons from practice
Jul 07, 2026
Ex-undercover police officer on why the war on drugs is failing
Jun 26, 2026
Gareth K Thomas, foster carer, on trauma informed parenting
Jun 19, 2026
Headlines from Mithran Samuel’s, and speak to social worker Ellen
Jun 12, 2026
Rose Byrne on her upbringing, caring for her sister and being diagnosed with ADHD
Jun 05, 2026
Maddy McCormack (Social Worker) on the realities of Child Protection Social Work
May 22, 2026
Sharon Shoesmith about Baby P, blame and learning from tragedies
May 15, 2026
An introduction to Systemic Ideas in Social Work with student Natasha Dube and author Liz Bosanquet
May 08, 2026
BONUS Episode: Rich and Tim discuss time management (Part 2)
May 06, 2026
Time management ideas that DEFINITELY & FINALLY allow you to get on top of your work
May 01, 2026
BONUS Episode: Rich and Tim discuss what Rich learned from 6 years of journaling (Part Two)
Apr 27, 2026
Rich and Tim discuss what Rich learned from 6 years of journaling
Apr 24, 2026
Care experienced psychotherapist, Jamie Crabb on suffering, care, and staying with what we don’t yet understand.
Apr 16, 2026
Janet Kay OBE about her experiences as a social worker, adoptive parent and kinship carer
Apr 02, 2026
Professor Jonathan Scourfield on what the largest-ever Family Group Conference study reveals
Mar 27, 2026
Juliette Davies about addiction, domestic abuse and her recovery journey
Mar 21, 2026
Practice lessons from the tragic death of Sara Shariff
Mar 13, 2026
Ethan St Pierre on trauma tourism, alongside a news roundup from Mithran Samuel (CC)
Mar 06, 2026
Ethan St Pierre on growing up in care, addiction and being reborn in a cemetery
Feb 27, 2026
Mark Hopfenbeck about the transformative possibilities of Open Dialogue.
Feb 20, 2026
Connecting Research: Why young people don't access mental health support
Feb 11, 2026
BONUS Episode: Rich and Tim reflect on what its like to be silent for 6 days
Jan 30, 2026
Seana McDermott (Social Worker for Children in Care) about relational practice and moral injury
Jan 30, 2026
Dr Anna Harvey on handstands, breakdance battles, and the unconscious
Jan 23, 2026
Dr Anna Harvey on fear, loneliness, and joy in social work
Jan 16, 2026
Rich and Tim return to talk boundaries, creating space and big changes ahead
Jan 09, 2026
Rich and Tim wrap up the year in conversation with Andrew Turnell
Dec 19, 2025
Donald Forrester about Nanny McPhee, baseball bats and the heart of social work (rights?!)
Dec 12, 2025
Charlotte Clark (Child Protection Social Worker) about trust, power and relationships
Dec 05, 2025
Anam Raja on the experiences of Black and Asian kinship carers
Nov 28, 2025
Rich and Tim ask each other surprising & difficult questions
Nov 21, 2025
The Trauma Industrial Complex
Nov 14, 2025
Connecting Research: linking childhood maltreatment to later intimate partner violence victimization
Nov 11, 2025
Toni Mayo on Radical Social Work
Nov 07, 2025
Rhian Taylor on the tension between being and doing in social work
Oct 31, 2025
Nicki Pettitt, Consultant specialising in Child Safeguarding Practice Reviews
Oct 25, 2025
Community Care Editor, Mithran on the latest social work headlines
Oct 17, 2025
Dr Paul Shuttleworth on what children want you to know about kinship
Oct 09, 2025
Dr Lorna Stabler about lived experience—its power, its promise, and its problems.
Oct 03, 2025
Rich and Tim reflect on their personal failures, explore why failure is inevitable, & share what they’ve learned from it.
Sep 26, 2025
Professor Rick Barth on the top misconceptions in child protection
Sep 19, 2025
Professor Harry Ferguson on the heart, history and future of social work
Sep 12, 2025
Lee Crouch about his experience of losing his children & the journey toward reunification
Sep 05, 2025
Rich and Tim; 'Headlines with Mithran' (CC editor) and personal reflections on parenting
Aug 29, 2025
Rich and Tim on how writing sharpens thinking, strengthens practice and opens doors
Aug 22, 2025
Rich and Tim debate: help individuals or change the system?
Aug 15, 2025
Dr. Lorna Stabler about what children think makes a great social worker
Aug 08, 2025
BONUS: Chapter 1 of Messy Social Work read by Rich Devine
Aug 01, 2025
Rich and Tim: 'headlines with Mithran' & Cordie Gwilym (Social Worker/Coach) on adoption, overcoming loss and coaching
Jul 25, 2025
Rasheed Pendry OBE (Director) on systemic practice and leadership
Jul 18, 2025
Rich and Tim discuss the 5 reasons why chronologies essential for effective social work practice
Jul 11, 2025
Clarissa Stevens (Development Worker for Peer Power) on how to work with teenagers and gangs
Jul 04, 2025
Kevin Campbell on Family Finding; an innovative method for finding family, love and connection
Jun 27, 2025
Rich and Tim introduce 'Headlines' with CC Editor Mithran Samuel and Review 'Radical Help' by Hilary Cottam
Jun 23, 2025
Professor Jill Derrick on the impossible imperative; navigating competing principles in child protection
Jun 12, 2025
Duane Phillips on being mixed heritage, male social worker, working with fathers and much more
Jun 06, 2025
Terri-Anne on requesting and reading her care files
May 29, 2025
What 10 years in child protection taught me about people, pain and purpose
May 23, 2025
Professor Clive Diaz on psychoanalytical ideas in contemporary social work
May 16, 2025
George Fielding BEM on living with cerebral palsy and how we can put the social back into social care
May 09, 2025
Rich and Tim take on the top three myths in child protection work
May 02, 2025
Rich and Tim introduce 'Messy Social Work' and discuss Rich's blog on reasons for not being a manager
Apr 25, 2025
Professor Anna Gupta (Royal Holloway, University of London) on Poverty and intersectionality
Apr 18, 2025
Rich and Tim on how to find meaning in life in the second half of life
Apr 11, 2025
Jamie Spencer (London Borough of Camden) on Data, Community and Connection
Apr 04, 2025
Professor Andrew Turnell (Australia) on Safety and belonging in child protection
Mar 28, 2025
Jo Sutton (ISW and Director of Purple Elephant in the Room) on Assessment and how to change the system
Mar 21, 2025
Rich shares his learning from a 5 day silent meditation retreat (Bonus episode)
Mar 19, 2025
Rich, Tim and Parent Activist Kar-Man discuss how to heal from childhood trauma
Mar 14, 2025
Rich and Tim discuss Child Protection vs. Family Support
Mar 07, 2025
Martin Hampton (Adult social worker, Camden) on how to see the person not the problem
Feb 28, 2025
Rich and Tim on relationships in social work and 'Spongy boundaries'
Feb 21, 2025
Rich and Tim answer, 'What is Relational Activism'
Feb 13, 2025
Lee Weston on leaving care and prison life
Feb 07, 2025
Charlotte Spires (Assessment social worker from BANES) on how to navigate conflict in social work
Jan 31, 2025
Ian Thomas, Tedx Speaker, Care Experienced Social Worker on addiction
Jan 24, 2025
Vicki Shevlin from Social Work Sorted on Supporting newly qualified social workers
Jan 17, 2025
Rich and Tim on the courage to be disliked
Dec 20, 2024
Becca Carr Hopkins (ISW and attachment expert) on attachment and the use of self in social work
Dec 13, 2024
Rich and Tim on how to create organisational and systemic change in social work
Dec 06, 2024
Rich, Tim and Lee Crouch (parent with lived experience) on how to assess a parents capacity to change
Nov 29, 2024
Rich and Tim on the why, what and how of Family Group Conferences
Nov 22, 2024
Renata (Newly Qualified Social Work in Child Protection, East Sussex) on small acts that make a big difference as a social worker
Nov 13, 2024
Rich and Tim on ideas for social workers who feel ‘stuck’ or overwhelmed
Nov 08, 2024
Care Experienced Activist, Terri-Anne Hamer on growing up in care, shame and healing
Oct 31, 2024
Rich and Tim on top tips for direct Work with children and insights from Maya Angelou
Oct 25, 2024
Rich and Tim on how to write analysis in assessments
Oct 18, 2024
Toni Mayo (Team Manager of Family Placement Team, BANES) on how to support Kinship Carers; What social workers need to know
Oct 11, 2024
Parent and Relational Activist, Kar-Man shares her lived experience of social work involvement
Oct 04, 2024
Rich and Tim on storytelling in social work and parental engagement
Sep 27, 2024
An interview with social worker and author, Rhian Taylor (Ep.22)
Apr 20, 2023
Typologies of domestic abuse (Ep.21)
Apr 04, 2023
An interview with Rob Tucker: Effective Communication Skills with children (EP.20)
Mar 24, 2023
Critical Cause of Danger and Critical Cause of Change (EP. 19)
Mar 19, 2023
12 lessons from 12 years on the frontline (EP.18)
Mar 10, 2023
Working with neglect in child protection (EP.17)
Feb 28, 2023
An interview with Vicki Shevlin, Social Work Sorted (EP.16)
Feb 23, 2023
Common pitfalls and cogntive biases in child protection (Ep.15)
Feb 16, 2023
Using power and authority in child protection practice (Ep.14)
Feb 08, 2023
Principles for effective communication with children (EP.13)
Jan 31, 2023
Attachment Theory and Child Protection Practice (EP.12)
Jan 25, 2023
8 top tips for becoming an efficient, effective, organised and resilient social worker, part 2 (Ep. 11)
Jan 19, 2023
8 top tips to becoming an efficient, effective, organised and resilient social worker, part 1 (EP 10)
Jan 11, 2023
End of Year Review 2022 (EP.9)
Jan 04, 2023
Who kills children? With Professor Colin Pritchard (EP. 8)
Dec 21, 2022
Top tips on exercising professional curiosity in child protection (EP.7)
Dec 16, 2022
Weaponising empathy and cultivating professional curiosity, with Lads Like Us (EP.6)
Dec 05, 2022
Walking the fine line between compassion for parents and safety for children (EP.5)
Nov 24, 2022
6 Lessons from renowned Systemic Therapist, John Burnham (EP.4)
Nov 17, 2022
'She prioritise her own needs above her child' (EP. 3)
Nov 08, 2022
Relationship Based Practice in Child Protection: An Insurmountable Problem? (EP.2)
Nov 02, 2022
An Introduction: drugs, death and my decision to be a social worker (EP.1)
Oct 26, 2022