The Other 22 Hours
By Michaela Anne, Aaron Shafer-Haiss
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Episodes: 150
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An exploration of the creative life, lived in the in-between.
A sanctuary for the creative spirit in a results-obsessed world.
Moving beyond the highlight reel, hosts and working musicians Aaron Shafer-Haiss and Michaela Anne facilitate intimate, artist-to-artist conversations with renowned musicians, authors, visual artists and actors about the grit required to sustain a life in the arts. From navigating doubt to finding stillness, this is the reality of the work. Unfiltered.
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Molly Tuttle on genre fluidity, artistic anxiety, and micro-managing travel routing.
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May 13, 2026 |
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Asleep at the Wheel on artistic identity, the vow of poverty, and why the geographic imperative is BS.
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May 06, 2026 |
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Nitty Gritty Dirt Band (Jeff Hanna) on a 60-year touring career, records with hair on them, and the joy in folding laundry.
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Apr 29, 2026 |
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Writing for the soul vs. writing for the brief, from writers to editors.
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Apr 22, 2026 |
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Derek Trucks on collaborative marriage, mentorship, and the healing power of a soundcheck poodle.
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Apr 15, 2026 |
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Suzy Bogguss on pioneering the indie path, the quality of community, and disgusting freezers.
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Apr 08, 2026 |
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Amythyst Kiah on psychic sovereignty, success envy, and the self-improvement doom loop.
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Apr 01, 2026 |
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James Victore on radical integrity, questioning authority, and getting paid $20,000 to shut up.
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Mar 25, 2026 |
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S.G. Goodman on scarcity mindset, manual labor, and the art of letting go.
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Mar 18, 2026 |
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Hunter Hayes on identity beyond music, high-efficiency routines, and radical vulnerability.
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Mar 11, 2026 |
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Butch Walker on accidental careers, the ego-driven climb, and 'shut up and sing'.
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Mar 04, 2026 |
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Kathleen Edwards on losing perspective, winning the lottery, and 'Quitters'.
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Dec 31, 2025 |
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How UMAW is leading the labor movement to save the music industry.
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Dec 29, 2025 |
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Chely Wright on strategic reinvention, the "pink haze" of losing everything, and 10,000 sunrises.
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Dec 24, 2025 |
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Jim Keller on the crash and burn, ego death, and the magic of jam sessions.
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Dec 17, 2025 |
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Max Wanger on listening to the lull, asking questions, and staying curious.
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Dec 10, 2025 |
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Raye Zaragoza on healing the hustle wound, decentralizing, and patreon.
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Dec 03, 2025 |
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Kris Delmhorst on invisible work, trusting slow seasons, and the myth of being seen.
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Nov 26, 2025 |
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Will Hoge on speaking up, creative responsibility, and poking the bear.
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Nov 19, 2025 |
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Malin Pettersen on cultural duality, impermanence, and privilege.
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Nov 12, 2025 |
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Jillian Jacqueline on identity, motherhood, and creative renewal.
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Nov 05, 2025 |
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Flyte on commodification, British repression, and conveyer belts.
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Oct 29, 2025 |
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Lera Lynn on identity, sexism, and finding creative power.
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Oct 22, 2025 |
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Revolutionizing the Creative Economy with Yancey Strickler.
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Oct 15, 2025 |
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Josh Radnor on first drafts, internal weather, and artistic generosity.
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Oct 08, 2025 |
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AJR on laughing at yourself, failing quickly, and reading the comments.
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Oct 01, 2025 |
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Dave Hause on blue collar, anticipation, and minor tweaks.
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Sep 24, 2025 |
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Hayes Carll on journaling, divesting from outcomes, and self solidity.
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Sep 17, 2025 |
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Tami Neilson on fake rules, expiry dates, and champions.
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Sep 10, 2025 |
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The Mammals on tradition, links in the chain, and localism.
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Sep 03, 2025 |
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Dan Reeder on shunning mediocrity, painting, and building synths.
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Aug 27, 2025 |
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AI vs Creativity. Then, Now, and Next with Drew Thurlow.
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Aug 20, 2025 |
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Maia Friedman on the ladder, mothering on the road, and economics.
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Aug 13, 2025 |
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Leslie Mendelson on self sufficiency, female representation, and gaps.
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Aug 06, 2025 |
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Tammy Rogers (The SteelDrivers) on collective bargaining, studio vs road, and flexibility.
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Jul 30, 2025 |
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Carissa Potter (People I've Loved) on containing multitudes, universal basic income, and toxicity.
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Jul 23, 2025 |
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Johnnyswim on curiosity, work vs growth, and wonder.
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Jul 16, 2025 |
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Drew Holcomb on expensive mistakes, decision points, and gentleness.
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Jul 09, 2025 |
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Empowering the independent music industry, with bandcamp Editorial Director J Edward Keyes
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Jul 02, 2025 |
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Greta Morgan perfect moments, a lost voice, and pitching.
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Jun 25, 2025 |
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Major Jackson on human expression, stewardship, and art monsters.
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Jun 18, 2025 |
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Seth Walker on nomadic creativity, chasing anxiety, and silence.
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Jun 11, 2025 |
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Caitlyn Smith on editing stars, first drafts, and writer's block.
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Jun 04, 2025 |
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Wilder Woods (Bear Rinehart) on internally fueled disappointment, starting over, and frames.
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May 28, 2025 |
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Daren Thomas Magee on tuning your instrument, funnels, and cliches.
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May 21, 2025 |
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Laurie Berkner on improvising songs, selling back catalogs, and stigmas.
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May 14, 2025 |
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Denison Witmer on patience, embracing imperfection, and woodworking.
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May 07, 2025 |
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Valerie June on the law of attraction, a malleable life, and testing limits.
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Apr 30, 2025 |
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Marla Frazee on creative chronologies, childhood mindsets, and cracking the code.
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Apr 23, 2025 |
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Rosanne Cash on allowing yourself to be called an artist, respect, and rituals.
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Apr 16, 2025 |
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Tift Merritt on constant flowering, the growing edge, and sound installations.
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Apr 09, 2025 |
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Courtney Hartman on regrounding, perpetual choice, and simplicity.
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Apr 02, 2025 |
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Fancy Hagood on creating your own lane, the gift of delusion, and magic.
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Mar 26, 2025 |
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Maggie Smith on creative purity, trusting yourself, and arm wrestling.
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Mar 19, 2025 |
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JD McPherson on the long game, a body of work, and Nick Lowe's advice.
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Mar 12, 2025 |
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The War and Treaty on living history, intentionality, and roadmaps.
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Mar 05, 2025 |
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On Family Business: Robert Ellis, Leyla McCalla + Joe Henry
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Feb 19, 2025 |
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On Self Doubt: Madame Gandhi, Langhorne Slim + Ryan Miller (Guster)
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Feb 05, 2025 |
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On The Business of DIY: Jesse Boykins III, Laura Veirs, Joe Pug + BJ Barham (American Aquarium)
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Jan 22, 2025 |
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On Failure: Rodney Crowell, Madi Diaz, Aaron Lee Tasjan.
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Jan 08, 2025 |
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Chuck Prophet on controlled chaos, learning by doing, and being well-adjusted.
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Dec 26, 2024 |
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James Vincent McMorrow on shelf life, space to fail, and culty connotations.
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Dec 18, 2024 |
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Liz Longley on buying your art back, touring as self care, and wilderness.
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Dec 11, 2024 |
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Tommy Emmanuel on endless experimenting, genre non-conforming, and stage craft.
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Dec 04, 2024 |
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Caroline Spence on owning your art, accepting evolving goals and dreams, and defining yourself.
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Nov 27, 2024 |
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Becca Stevens on the intersection of passion and parenthood, creating within grief, and shared calendars.
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Nov 20, 2024 |
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Brandy Clark on beating self doubt, finding community, and standing out.
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Nov 13, 2024 |
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Kevn Kinney (Drivin N Cryin) on self healing rock and roll, unlearning, and mixtapes.
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Nov 06, 2024 |
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Nicki Bluhm + Jesse Noah Wilson on band therapists, learning from elders, and sourdough discard.
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Oct 30, 2024 |
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John Moreland on staying hands on, timelines, and flip phones.
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Oct 23, 2024 |
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The Lone Bellow on gut checks, ownership, and healthy conflict.
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Oct 16, 2024 |
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Tim Easton on dreaming out loud, remaining teachable, and Alaska.
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Oct 09, 2024 |
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Madi Diaz on creating environments, a cacophony of almosts, and road protein.
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Oct 02, 2024 |
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Amy Helm on forever learning, self-care like an athlete, and coops.
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Sep 25, 2024 |
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Nicole Atkins on enjoyment vs achievement, staying child-like, and patience.
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Sep 18, 2024 |
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Guest Episode: A discussion on Ambition vs Acceptance, on Basic Folk Podcast
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Sep 11, 2024 |
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Edwin McCain on defining enough, gig snobbery, and grievance farmers.
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Sep 04, 2024 |
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Joseph on new beginnings, defining a guiding light, and intentionality.
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Aug 28, 2024 |
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Guest Episode: Sarah Jarosz on Basic Folk Podcast
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Aug 21, 2024 |
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Miko Marks on grounding, gap years, and the mundane.
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Aug 14, 2024 |
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Lilly Hiatt on protecting your inner knowing, ditching social media, and transitions in time.
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Aug 07, 2024 |
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Evan Honer on betting on yourself, boosting others, and mowing lawns.
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Jul 31, 2024 |
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Jesse Boykins III on knowing your toolbox, galvanizing yourself, and simplifying everything.
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Jul 24, 2024 |
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Sara + Sean Watkins (Watkins Family Hour) on humbleness, diverse skillsets, and faking it.
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Jul 17, 2024 |
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Eliot Bronson on surrendering to circumstance, bottom up growth, and being the movie screen.
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Jul 10, 2024 |
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Rhett Miller on deserving vs entitlement, envy, and spinning plates.
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Jul 03, 2024 |
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Chris Smither on self motivating, learning when to grip the reins, and books.
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Jun 26, 2024 |
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Ruby Amanfu on owning your truths, prioritizing personal connection, and swimming to depths.
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Jun 19, 2024 |
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Jim Sonefeld (Hootie & the Blowfish) on learning by doing, life after the peak, and honest reflection.
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Jun 12, 2024 |
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Lori McKenna on holding the work in gratitude, carving space, and sign posts.
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Jun 05, 2024 |
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Tyler Ramsey on finding the right venue, patience in waves, and release releases.
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May 29, 2024 |
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The Secret Sisters on leveling out, non-linear trajectories, and play.
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May 22, 2024 |
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The Brother Brothers on authenticity, autonomy and validation, and traveling.
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May 15, 2024 |
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Guster on running toward fear, trying to fail, and green lights.
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May 08, 2024 |
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Rissi Palmer on the year of no, speaking for the voiceless, and making the appointment.
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May 01, 2024 |
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Ana Egge on co-writing with your dreams, meditation practice, and skateboarding.
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Apr 24, 2024 |
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Larry Campbell & Teresa Williams on finding the joy, balance, and the Tao of Levon.
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Apr 17, 2024 |
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Morgxn on when not to quit, transparency, and farming.
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Apr 10, 2024 |
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Steve Poltz on life as a treasure hunt, creating your own scene, and getting pinned on the mat.
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Apr 03, 2024 |
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Sierra Hull on nature vs nurture, disappointment as fuel, and tour bus cafes.
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Mar 27, 2024 |
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Langhorne Slim on getting out of the mind and into the heart, vices as a muse, and mountain tops.
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Mar 20, 2024 |
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Devon Gilfillian on freedom in routine, machine building, and meatballs.
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Mar 13, 2024 |
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Margo Price + Jeremy Ivey on balancing approaches, knowing your roll, and orange soda.
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Mar 06, 2024 |
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Mary Chapin Carpenter on owning the process, personalizing mistreatment, and weathering rejection.
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Dec 27, 2023 |
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Glen Phillips (Toad the Wet Sprocket) on the joy of play, post-platinum economics, and creating in community.
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Dec 20, 2023 |
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Laura Veirs on staying aware, planning a sabbatical year, and life in the tortoise lane.
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Dec 13, 2023 |
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Gretchen Peters on recalibrating your definition of success, strength in artistry, and bucking industry expectations.
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Dec 06, 2023 |
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Robert Ellis on present consciousness, getting back to having fun, and perceptions.
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Nov 29, 2023 |
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Samantha Crain on asking questions, self advocacy, and growing in a non-music city.
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Nov 22, 2023 |
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John Craigie on the art of storytelling, the optics fallacy, and horticulture.
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Nov 15, 2023 |
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Joe Henry on the creative stream, daily aesthetics, and the musicality of language.
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Nov 08, 2023 |
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John Doe on embracing your role, identifying ego, and butterfly nets.
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Nov 01, 2023 |
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David Wax Museum on artistic ecosystems, creating in partnership, and pollinators.
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Oct 25, 2023 |
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Madame Gandhi on quieting self doubt, optimizing for joy, and sampling glaciers.
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Oct 18, 2023 |
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Dylan LeBlanc on magnetic intentions, second chances, and red hot frying pans.
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Oct 11, 2023 |
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The Watson Twins on touring sustainably, collaboration vs individualization, and van pillows.
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Oct 04, 2023 |
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Paris Carney on finding your unique outlet, creating for others, and family bands.
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Sep 27, 2023 |
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William Prince on joyful presence, intergenerational trauma, and humor.
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Sep 20, 2023 |
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Ezinma on viral moments, continually educating, and scuba diving.
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Sep 13, 2023 |
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Duquette Johnston on incarcerated creativity, human design, and scents.
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Sep 06, 2023 |
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Jamie Kent on community impact, legislation, plus a live Q&A.
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Aug 30, 2023 |
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The Wood Brothers on the illusion of control, enjoyment, and remembering to remember.
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Aug 23, 2023 |
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Mary Gauthier on patience in art, persistence in business, and losing with John Prine.
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Aug 16, 2023 |
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Katie Pruitt on patience, emotional language, and archery.
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Aug 09, 2023 |
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Kaia Kater on the power of shared experiences, speaking out in integrity, and grants.
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Aug 02, 2023 |
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Ron Pope & Blair Clark on staying independent, calculated risks, and letting things pass.
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Jul 26, 2023 |
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Adia Victoria on keeping a sense of self, being in the body, and the forest.
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Jul 19, 2023 |
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Caroline Spence, Erin Rae, Kelsey Waldon & Michaela Anne on competition, community, and cross-stitching.
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Jul 12, 2023 |
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Alice Gerrard on how to teach yourself, longevity, and authenticity.
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Jul 05, 2023 |
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David Moore (Bing & Ruth) on interconnectedness, evolving processes, and chefs.
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Jun 28, 2023 |
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Mary Bragg on perceptions, rewrites, and dating your creativity.
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Jun 21, 2023 |
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Hiss Golden Messenger on omnivorous listening, tidal creativity, and the dead.
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Jun 14, 2023 |
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Elizabeth Cook on living creatively, diversification, and fairy tales.
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Jun 07, 2023 |
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Rodney Crowell on failure, knowing when it's done, and vision quests.
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May 31, 2023 |
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Osei Essed on being open, composing vs songwriting, and defining the language.
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May 24, 2023 |
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Mark Erelli on the ritual, learning from others, and choosing daily.
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May 17, 2023 |
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Becca Mancari on owning your creative process, validation vs affirmation, and coping.
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May 10, 2023 |
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Leyla McCalla on artistic lives as societal change, inspiration from academia, and parenthood.
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May 03, 2023 |
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Lucius on continual reinvention, building a team, and chores.
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Apr 26, 2023 |
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Joe Pug on prioritizing what's fruitful, tracking data, and Dante's Inferno.
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Apr 19, 2023 |
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Lola Kirke on multiple creative careers, compare despair, and understanding lineage.
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Apr 12, 2023 |
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Melanie Charles on the importance of exploration, curiosity, and living your artistic message.
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Apr 05, 2023 |
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BJ Barham on imposter syndrome, longevity, and reinventing yourself.
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Mar 29, 2023 |
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Andrew Combs on challenging stereotypes, creating as healing, and meditation.
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Mar 22, 2023 |
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Shovels & Rope on intentional creative time, creative vulnerability, and touring with a family.
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Mar 15, 2023 |
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Emily Scott Robinson on validation addiction, avoiding shoulds, and the power of staying grounded.
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Mar 15, 2023 |
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The Milk Carton Kids on knowing what you want, positive boundaries, and the internet.
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Mar 15, 2023 |
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Kyshona on holding energy, mission statements, and saying no.
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Mar 15, 2023 |
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Aaron Lee Tasjan on inner voices, slowing down, and alternate creative outlets.
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Mar 15, 2023 |
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Mar 02, 2023 |