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Savvy and strong legal leadership is only becoming more critical in a complex world.
On The Abstract, we'll be interviewing leading legal executives about how they’ve nurtured their careers, grown in their roles, and become true operators within their businesses. At some points, we’ll deal with the pressure of leadership.
We care deeply about helping in-house counsel grow alongside each other. Join us for insightful and interesting conversations with legal leaders.
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Ep 115: From Career Break to CLO: How Shanti Ariker Rebuilt Her Legal Career
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Oct 16, 2025 |
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Ep 114: Building Outside the Box: Monica Zent on Legal Ops, AI, and Bold Bets
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Sep 11, 2025 |
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Ep 113: Tackling Change: Emmanuel Smith's Journey Beyond Football
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Sep 04, 2025 |
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Ep 112: Risk, Reward, and Reinvention: Viraj Joshi on Law, Policy, and Startups
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Aug 28, 2025 |
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Ep 111: Lessons from Ola's Former GC: Leadership, Risk, and Reinvention
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Aug 21, 2025 |
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Ep 110: From Product Counsel to Privacy Leader: Tina Hwang's Journey
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Aug 07, 2025 |
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Ep 109: Books That Stay With You: Legal Leaders Share Their Shelf
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Jul 24, 2025 |
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Ep 108: Reimagining Law Firm Pricing: Ken Callander on Value, AI & In-House Strategy
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Jul 17, 2025 |
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Ep 107: From Big Law to GC Before 35: Andrew Epstein's Journey on Navigating Modern Legal Careers
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Jul 10, 2025 |
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Ep 106: Scaling Legal at Speed – Lessons from Carta, Cockroach Labs, and More
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Jul 03, 2025 |
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Ep 105: Punishing the Victim: What's Broken in Cybersecurity Law
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Jun 26, 2025 |
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Ep 104: Jack of All Trades, Master of Risk: How Joon Park Navigates Modern Legal Work
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Jun 19, 2025 |
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Ep 103: Building What Doesn't Exist Yet: Inside the Legal Career of Tommie Tavares-Ferreira
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Jun 05, 2025 |
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Ep 102: What Comes After Legal Ops? A Conversation with David Cowen
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Jun 03, 2025 |
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Ep 101: How Legal Ops Became the Center of Strategy with Adam Becker, Cockroach Labs
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May 29, 2025 |
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Ep 100: Community as Strategy: Your Guide to Growth with Tyler Finn
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May 27, 2025 |
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Ep 99: Resilience, Wellness, and the Law: Keita de Souza on Building a Sustainable Legal Career
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May 22, 2025 |
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Ep 98: Breaking the Silence: Legal Leaders Talk Mental Health
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May 14, 2025 |
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Ep 97: From First Legal Hire to EMEA GC with Volker Weisshaar, Sonos
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Apr 30, 2025 |
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Ep 96: Scaling Teams from 80 to 800 with Jordan Hatcher, Co-Founder, CLO, and COO of The Grid
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Apr 24, 2025 |
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Ep 95: How Adidas Is Scaling Legal Ops with Alex Herrity, Director, Global Legal Solutions
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Apr 17, 2025 |
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Ep 94: Why Legal Teams Break and How to Fix Them with Manu Kanwar, CEO LexSolutions
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Apr 15, 2025 |
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Ep 93: Legal's Crisis Stories: SVB, Uber & More
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Apr 10, 2025 |
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Ep 92: Why I Left the Big Firm Life to Feed Dogs with Tim Hirsch, GC of Mars Science and Diagnostics
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Apr 03, 2025 |
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Ep 91: Why Legal Work Will Never Be the Same with SpotDraft's Shashank Bijapur and Akshay Verma
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Mar 27, 2025 |
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Ep 90: From Engineer to Top Lawyer at Adobe and Microsoft with Dana Rao
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Mar 21, 2025 |
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Ep 89: From Hackathon to Legal Game-Changer with Hannah Konitshek, Founder, Legal.io
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Mar 13, 2025 |
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Ep 88: From Prosecutor to Security Leader – Joe Sullivan (ex-CSO: Uber, Facebook, Cloudflare)
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Mar 11, 2025 |
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Ep 87: Building a Culture of Integrity with Rob Chestnut, former Airbnb Chief Ethics Officer
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Mar 06, 2025 |
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Ep 86: Why In-House Lawyers Need Each Other with Shai Mehani, CEO In-House Connect
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Feb 27, 2025 |
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Ep 85: From Coding to the C-Suite with Ryan Nier, GC Nova Credit
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Feb 25, 2025 |
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Ep 84: Why Lawyers Struggle with Communication with Briefly CEO Adam Stofsky
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Feb 20, 2025 |
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Ep 83: The 2025 Legal Ops Playbook with Brightflag's Kevin Cohn & Priori's Matt Wheatley
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Feb 14, 2025 |
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Ep 82: How Carta Built a Legal Team from Scratch & Scaled 10X with April Lindauer, GC
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Feb 06, 2025 |
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Ep 81: What Every GC Should Know About Working With Founders with Sarah Irwin
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Jan 31, 2025 |
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Ep 80: Insights on Privacy with Ron De Jesus, the Industry's First Field Chief Privacy Officer
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Jan 28, 2025 |
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Ep 79: Understanding the Future of Patent Law with Patsnap's Matt Veale
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Jan 23, 2025 |
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Ep 78: Blueprint for the Ultimate Legal Ops Team with Steph Corey, CEO UpLevel Ops & Co-Founder LINK
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Jan 21, 2025 |
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Ep 77: Thriving Through Change: Insights from Ron Bell, Collective Health CLO and Former Yahoo! GC
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Jan 14, 2025 |
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Ep 76: Lawtrades Co-Founders on Creating a Gig Economy for Lawyers
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Jan 09, 2025 |
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Ep 75: Must-Read Books for Legal Professionals in 2025 | Bonus Episode
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Jan 03, 2025 |
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Ep 74: Advice to Young Lawyers | Bonus Episode
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Dec 30, 2024 |
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Ep 73: All Things Contracts with Laura Frederick, CEO of How to Contract
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Dec 23, 2024 |
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Ep 72: Lobbying for Better Telehealth Regulations with GC Adam Greenberg
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Dec 18, 2024 |
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Ep 71: Privacy, Facial Recognition, and Semi-Pro Football with DPO Paul Collier
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Dec 09, 2024 |
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Ep 70: Why GCs need to care about ESG with Christine Uri, Founder ESG for In-house Counsel
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Dec 05, 2024 |
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Ep 69: Leading Teams Across Borders with Manuel Martinez-Herrera, BetterCloud GM
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Nov 26, 2024 |
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Ep 68: From Litigator to Spin Instructor to Chief Legal Officer with Jasmine Singh
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Nov 21, 2024 |
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Ep 67: The Future of Crypto Regulation with Heath Tarbert, Circle CLO and Former CFTC Chair
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Nov 19, 2024 |
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Ep 66: Tennis & Media Law with Peter Steckelman, SVP, Tennis Channel
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Nov 14, 2024 |
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Ep 65: Why GCs Need to Understand Geopolitics with Sean West
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Nov 07, 2024 |
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Ep 64: How to build and scale legal teams?
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Oct 31, 2024 |
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Ep 63: From Prosecutor to GC at Enfusion with Matt Campobasso
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Oct 29, 2024 |
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Ep 62: From Serving in the Army to becoming a CEO with Ethena CEO Roxanne Petraeus
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Oct 24, 2024 |
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Ep 61: How to lead Legal without a JD with Zoe McMahon, HP, Head of Legal Ops
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Oct 17, 2024 |
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Ep 60: Sharing Legal Secrets Onstage with Playwright and ex-Etsy and Vroom GC Sarah Feingold
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Oct 10, 2024 |
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Ep 59: From Lawyer to Angel Investor, Advisor & Dealmaker with Sunjay Mathews
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Oct 03, 2024 |
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Ep 58: How a lawyer built an AI company with Cecilia Ziniti, founder GC AI
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Sep 26, 2024 |
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Ep 57: Bridging the gap between Politicians & Corps. with Jules Polonetsky, CEO, Future of Privacy
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Sep 19, 2024 |
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Ep 56: Poker helped me negotiate contracts, says Andrew Woods, GC @PubMatic
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Sep 17, 2024 |
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Ep 55: Why Upwardli CEO Aaron Gregory Took the Leap from GC to Founder
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Sep 12, 2024 |
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Ep 54: Lyft's Kristin Sverchek on Expanding Beyond Legal into Corporate Leadership
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Sep 05, 2024 |
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Ep 53: What it takes to lobby for Apple, Google & Intel with Matt Tanielian
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Aug 29, 2024 |
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Ep 52: How Vanessa Wu, GC @Rippling tackled Silicon Valley Bank's collapse
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Aug 22, 2024 |
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Ep 51: How Rachel Olchowka, balanced the role of GC & CPO @ Fetch
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Aug 15, 2024 |
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Ep 50: How beating cancer twice helped him become the "Zen" GC: Dan Haley, GC, Guild
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Aug 08, 2024 |
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Ep 49: Will AI change Legal Work Forever?: Joe Green, Chief Innovation Officer, Gunderson Dettmer
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Jul 31, 2024 |
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Ep 48: How a Pilot turned into a CEO: Ben Klein, CEO at Aero
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Jul 24, 2024 |
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Ep 47: Steering Companies Through Crisis: Chelsea Grayson, Managing Partner at Pivot
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Jul 17, 2024 |
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Ep 46: What You Wish You Had Known at the Start of Your Career | Bonus Episode
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Jul 10, 2024 |
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Ep 45: What Executive Recruiters Need from GCs: Joelle Khoury, Consultant at Egon Zehnder
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Jul 02, 2024 |
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Ep 44: How an Opera Singer Became a Legal Ops Pro: Cory Clines, Legal Operations Consultant
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Jun 26, 2024 |
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Ep 43: Why Foreign-Trained Lawyers are Essential: Flavia Naves, Of Counsel, Hathaway & Kunz, LLP
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Jun 19, 2024 |
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Ep 42: Legacy Legal Ops v. Start-Up Legal Ops: Susan Packal, Head of Global Legal Ops at Atlassian
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Jun 12, 2024 |
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Ep 41: Building Legal Ops at Google: DeAnna Papedis, Head of Legal Contracts & Operations, Google
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Jun 04, 2024 |
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Ep 40: Leveraging Social Media to Build a Legal Brand: Matt Margolis, Partner, Margolis PLLC
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May 28, 2024 |
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Ep 39: Legal Process Orchestration: Sagi Eliyahu, CEO & Co-founder, Tonkean (w/ cohost Akshay Verma)
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May 20, 2024 |
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Ep 38: Product Counseling at Nest, Apple, and a Climate Change Startup: Vineet Shahani, GC, Mill
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May 13, 2024 |
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Ep 37: IPO, Acquisitions & Board Membership: Nithya Das, Chief Legal & Administrative Officer, Diligent
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May 06, 2024 |
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EP 36: From Paralegals to Legal Ops Leaders: Tommie Tavares-Ferreira, Cedar, and Tom Stephenson, Legal.io
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Apr 30, 2024 |
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Ep 35: Growing Your Personal Brand and Legal Network on LinkedIn: Brittany Leonard, GC at Civix
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Apr 23, 2024 |
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Ep 34: From Prosecuting to Leading In-house at a Tech Startup: S. Michael Lee, GC & COO at Engaging.ai
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Apr 19, 2024 |
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Ep 33: Legal Issues in the Gene Editing Space: Lisa Taylor Ash, General Counsel at Shape Therapeutics
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Apr 16, 2024 |
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Ep 32: From Product Counseling at Apple & Meta to the Crypto World: Nguyen Vu, DGC, OKX
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Apr 12, 2024 |
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Ep 31: Peak Legal Efficiency: Siddharth Manchanda, IndusLaw Partner & Unacademy External GC
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Apr 09, 2024 |
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Ep 30: Leading Legal in Complex Regulatory Environments: Hardeep Singh, GC, CRED
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Apr 04, 2024 |
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EP 29: What's Next for Legal Ops: Jenn McCarron, President of CLOC
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Mar 29, 2024 |
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Ep 28: From Law Partner to Top Recruiter: Richard Hsu, Managing Director at Major, Lindsey & Africa
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Mar 26, 2024 |
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Ep 27: Taking Businesses & Legal Teams Global: Sarah Binder, General Counsel, Lime
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Mar 15, 2024 |
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Finding Empowerment in Disability: Raj Mahapatra, Senior Counsel at Wilson Sonsini
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Feb 28, 2024 |
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Data, Privacy, and Podcasting: Andy Dale, GC & CPO, OpenAP
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Feb 22, 2024 |
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Building, leading, and scaling legal teams | Bonus Episode
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Feb 08, 2024 |
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Expanding Beyond the GC Role | Bonus Episode
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Jan 31, 2024 |
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GCs in the Boardroom: Lisa Harrington, Board Director, Consultant, and CLO
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Jan 19, 2024 |
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From FBI Dreams to Big Tech Legal: Alice Bisgrove, VP & Associate General Counsel, Procore
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Jan 09, 2024 |
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Championing Inclusion, Ethics & Compliance: Junna Ro, Head of Strategic Legal Initiatives, UC Office of the President
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Dec 22, 2023 |
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Taking the Helm as an Interim Executive: Vanessa Gage, General Counsel, Cedar
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Dec 15, 2023 |
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Defining Ethical Use & Dealing with Law Enforcement: Mark Kahn, Partner and Head of Consumer at Protégé Search
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Dec 08, 2023 |
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Big Risks and Big Rewards: René Paula, GC & SVP of Legal & Business Affairs, Vaxxinity
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Nov 29, 2023 |
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Privacy, Ad Tech, and AI: Julia Shullman, GC and Chief Privacy Officer, Telly
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Nov 22, 2023 |
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Navigating Public Scrutiny & Adversity as a GC: Mark Marin's Candid Insights
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Nov 10, 2023 |
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Being a Business-Minded Lawyer: Kathy Zhu, Co-founder, CEO & GC @Streamline AI
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Nov 03, 2023 |
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Leading Teams in High Growth, High Pressure Environments: Seth Weissman, Executive Coach
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Oct 27, 2023 |
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Navigating Ownership Transitions From PE to Public Holdings: Brian Chase, GC, ServiceChannel
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Oct 05, 2023 |
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From NASA to HR Tech: Evan Ferl, Chief Strategy Officer & GC, Bambee
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Sep 28, 2023 |
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Becoming a True Business Partner as an In-House Lawyer
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Sep 06, 2023 |
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Going Beyond the GC Role: COO Genessa Stout on Organic Growth
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Aug 22, 2023 |
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Navigating IPOs and Acquisitions: GC Gary Spiegel Takes Us Behind the Scenes
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Aug 09, 2023 |
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Brand Building for Legal Teams: With Lydia Cheuk, GC at Away
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Jul 20, 2023 |
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Navigating the Legal-Security-Privacy Relationship: Celaena Powder's Experiences at Seismic
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Jul 06, 2023 |
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Riding Tech Booms and Busts as a Lawyer: Perspectives from David Lancelot
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Jun 22, 2023 |
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Mapping Your Career in Law: Akshay Verma's Blueprint for Success
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Jun 14, 2023 |
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Becoming a Customer-Centric GC: Adam Glick's Mindset
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May 25, 2023 |
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Unlocking Success in In-House Legal Roles: Lessons from Doug Luftman, ex-DGC @DocuSign
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May 04, 2023 |
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The Limits, and Limitlessness, of the Legal Function
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Apr 17, 2023 |
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