Compliance, security, privacy, AI risk. There's a lot of noise out there, and not much of it is useful when you're the one having to do the work. Phishing for Trouble is the business resilience podcast from IO (ISMS.online), the platform thousands of teams use to manage compliance and build resilience day to day. Rebecca Harper and David Holloway talk to the security leaders, specialists and business experts they actually learn from, the kind of guests who give you something to take back to your team on Monday. Honest, practical, sometimes a bit awkward. Always useful.