The Messy Middle Matters

By People | Process | Things — Indra Klavins

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Making sense of the hidden dynamics shaping modern organizations.

Organizations are always sending signals. Some are obvious. Most are subtle.

The Messy Middle Matters®  is where we explore the hidden dynamics shaping how organizations actually work—from invisible work and decision-making to leadership, change, and the patterns that emerge when people build together.

Through the podcast, her writing, and public speaking, Indra Klavins helps leaders, operators, and builders make sense of what they're already seeing but may not yet have words for.

Whether you're listening to the podcast, reading an essay, or exploring a keynote, the goal is the same: to help you see your organization differently.

Because once you begin noticing these patterns, it's hard to unsee them.

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Episode Date
Ep 53: Becoming Myself Again, One Episode at a Time
Mar 25, 2026
Ep 52: From Rioja to Holistic Home: The Power of Passion in Professional Journeys w/ Ana Fabiano
Mar 18, 2026
Ep 51: The Secret Memos of Agency Life: Unpacking Imposter Syndrome w/ Kat Logan
Mar 11, 2026
Ep 50: The Messy Middle of Agency Life: Pressure, Subjectivity, and Survival w/ Kat Logan
Mar 04, 2026
Ep 49: Listening to Your Inner Voice in a Noisy World w/ Jameelah Calhoun
Feb 25, 2026
Ep 48: The Grief Inside of Growth w/ Stephanie Simpson
Feb 18, 2026
Ep 47: Why I Use AI, Unapologetically
Feb 11, 2026
Ep 46: Navigating the Goo Stage: Embracing Transformation w/ Stephanie Simpson
Feb 04, 2026
Ep 45: Navigating Purpose, Identity and Career in the Messy Middle w/ Rachel Saslaw
Jan 28, 2026
Ep 44: From Corporate Scripts to Owning the Room w/ Megumi Calver
Jan 21, 2026
Ep 43: Navigating the First 90 Days w/ Amanda Jane Lee
Jan 14, 2026
Ep 42: Spot the Green Flags: Leveraging AI for Role Fit & Career Clarity
Jan 07, 2026
Ep 41: From Expert to Leader: The Emotional Journey to People Management w/ Laura Lillie Goodridge
Dec 17, 2025
Ep 40: Starting Over Again: The Humility of Career Change w/ Mikki Hoffman
Dec 10, 2025
Ep 39: It Sounds Like Empowerment, But It’s Actually Avoidance w/ Amanda Jane Lee
Dec 03, 2025
Ep 38: Scaling Culture While Everything’s in Motion (w/ Derek Kastner)
Nov 19, 2025
Ep 37: Changing Course. Bouncing Back. w/ Nancy E. Krulik
Nov 12, 2025
Ep 36: Aligning Human Behavior w/ Business Needs: Why People Push Back (w/Amanda Jane Lee)
Nov 05, 2025
Ep 35: When Perfectionism Holds You Back (w/Amanda Jane Lee)
Oct 29, 2025
Ep 34: Breaking Out of Corporate Life w/ Ashley Grace Jefferson
Oct 22, 2025
Ep 33: The Courage to Step Outside of Your Comfort Zone (w/ Juleen Mahabeer-Jackson)
Oct 15, 2025
Ep 32: Your Brand, Your Rules (w/ Ashley Grace Jefferson - Startup Baddie & F3)
Oct 08, 2025
Ep 31: Professional Identity: How Others See You vs. How You See Yourself (w/ Amanda Jane Lee)
Oct 01, 2025
Ep 30: Being Smart vs. Being Prepared (w/ Victor Malena - Ops on Tap)
Sep 24, 2025
Ep 29: Networking Without the Ick: How to Build Real Relationships That Last (w/ Amanda Jane Lee)
Sep 17, 2025
Bonus Drop: A Quick Update from Indra
Sep 15, 2025
Ep 28: Influence vs. Authority: How Change Really Happens
Sep 10, 2025
Ep 27: Incentives, Outputs, and Organizational Disconnects
Sep 03, 2025
Ep 26: Career Growth vs. Team Cohesion
Aug 27, 2025
Ep 25: When Everything is a Top Priority
Aug 20, 2025
Ep 24: Seniority as a Euphemism
Aug 13, 2025
Ep 23: What to Do When There’s Nowhere Left to Grow
Aug 06, 2025
Ep 22: Why Hire Smart People if You Won't Let Them Think
Jul 30, 2025
Ep 21: Rockstars, Unicorns, and Other Hiring Myths
Jul 23, 2025
Ep 20: More Than a Resume: Building Your Digital Presence
Jul 16, 2025
Ep 19: The Craft of Meeting Notes
Jul 09, 2025
Ep 18: The Meeting About the Meeting About the Meeting
Jul 02, 2025
Ep 17: Titles Matter
Jun 25, 2025
Ep 16: Not Everything is a Zero-Sum Game
Jun 18, 2025
Ep 15: Soft Skills: The Skills No One Teaches (but everyone needs)
Jun 11, 2025
Ep 14: Getting Stuff Done: The Value of Project & Program Professionals
Jun 04, 2025
Ep 13: Why Outsiders Can Say the Quiet Thing Out Loud
May 28, 2025
Ep 12: Icebreakers: Creating Space for Connection
May 21, 2025
Ep 11: The Serious Case for Not Taking Everything So Seriously
May 14, 2025
Ep 10: Context Matters: The Power of Clarifying Questions
May 07, 2025
Ep 09: Work Doesn’t Happen in a Vacuum: Navigating Challenging Times Together
Apr 30, 2025
Ep 08: Boxes, Biases & Breakthroughs: Navigating Self-Assessments at Work
Apr 23, 2025
Ep 07: Knowledge Hoarding vs. Sharing: Finding the Right Balance
Apr 16, 2025
Ep 06: People Management: Not Just a Step Up, A Career Shift
Apr 09, 2025
Ep 05: Feedback Fatigue
Apr 02, 2025
Ep 04: Making the Invisible Work Count (Glue Work)
Mar 26, 2025
Ep 03: The Overdiagnosis of Impostor Syndrome
Mar 19, 2025
Ep 02: Words Matter
Mar 12, 2025
Ep 01: Welcome to The Messy Middle
Mar 10, 2025