The Jay & Tony Show Show - Vertically Challenged
By Jay Blumenfield, Tony Marsh, Geoff Bell
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The Jay & Tony Show Show - Vertically Challenged
Two partners. One podcast. Zero patience for stale TV.
Hollywood talks a big game about "disruption," but the real shift is happening overseas, where short-form dramas, aka Verticals, aka Micro Dramas, are pulling in billions of eyeballs. These snack-sized soap operas are addictive, unstoppable, and reshaping how stories are told.
We're digging into why Verticals are both Hollywood's blind spot and its golden ticket, what creators and execs need to understand fast, and why the next generation of creators is building a whole new playbook.
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| Episode | Date |
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156 - Blink Like You Mean It: Acting For Verticals
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Sep 15, 2026 |
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155 - The Vertical Drama Hype Machine: What's Real and What's Bullshit
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Sep 08, 2026 |
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154 - Throwback Tuesday: Don't Kill The Cast (Our Very First Podcast from 2014)
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Sep 01, 2026 |
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153 - The Production Domino Effect
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Aug 25, 2026 |
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152 - In the Trenches of Vertical Drama: Heat, Hacks, and Moleskine Notes
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Aug 18, 2026 |
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151 - Thugs, Timers and TikTok: Live from Set
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Aug 17, 2026 |
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151 - The Raw Truth of Vertical Production: Thugs, Timers, and TikTok (reloaded)
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Aug 16, 2026 |
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150 - Inside the Mind of a Micro-Drama with Meagan Johnson - Part 2
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Aug 04, 2026 |
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149 - Inside the Mind of a Micro-Drama Superfan with: Meagan Johnson - Part 1
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Jul 29, 2026 |
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148 - Ali Albazaz CEO of CandyJar spills the ai beans - Part 2
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Jul 21, 2026 |
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147 - Ali Abazaz CEO of CandyJar spills the ai beans...
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Jul 14, 2026 |
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146 - Priests, Paywalls & Panic: Where Vertical Dramas Go Next
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Jul 07, 2026 |
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145 - AI Creators Are Coming for Hollywood's Lunch Money - Part 2
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Jun 30, 2026 |
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144 - AI Creators Are Coming for Hollywood's Lunch Money - Part 1
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Jun 23, 2026 |
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143 - Hollywood Lost the Crown (But Jay Found a Nude Beach)
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Jun 16, 2026 |
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142 - Why Is Tom Cruise's Producer Doing Verticals? - Tommy Harper Part 2
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Jun 09, 2026 |
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141 - Why Is Tom Cruise's Producer Doing Verticals? - Tommy Harper Part 1
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Jun 02, 2026 |
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140 - Silence of the LLMs - Eddie Yoon Part 2
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May 26, 2026 |
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139 - Overheard at the LA Vertical Market
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May 19, 2026 |
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138 - Silence of the LLMs - Eddie Yoon Part 1
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May 12, 2026 |
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#137 - The Woman Who Built The L.A. Vertical Drama Market - Dana Protsyshak
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May 05, 2026 |
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#136 - The CEO Who Doesn't Believe in Ego (But Built a Media Empire Anyway) - Bogdan Nesvit Part 2
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Apr 28, 2026 |
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#135 - The CEO Who Doesn't Believe in Ego (But Built a Media Empire Anyway) - Bogdan Nesvit Part 1
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Apr 21, 2026 |
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#134 - Emergency podcast. Ai has killed Chinese production hubs. The AIpocalsye is here.
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Apr 14, 2026 |
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#133 - Who Really Runs Media Now? – Interview with Evan Shapīro, Part 2
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Apr 07, 2026 |
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#132 - Who Really Runs Media Now? - Interview with Evan Shapīro, Part 1
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Mar 31, 2026 |
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#131 - Is A Crap Look Part Of The Allure?
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Mar 24, 2026 |
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#130 - The Actress and The Mogul – Part 2
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Mar 17, 2026 |
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#129 - The Actress and The Mogul – Part 1
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Mar 10, 2026 |
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#128 - The Dark Arts of the Micro-Drama Paywall - Part 2
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Mar 03, 2026 |
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#127 - The Dark Arts of the Micro-Drama Paywall
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Feb 24, 2026 |
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#126 - Hollywood Is Broken, So We Took It to City Hall
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Feb 17, 2026 |
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#125 - She Wrote on The Book on Micro-Dramas and The "Secrets" Aren't What You Think - Part 2
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Feb 10, 2026 |
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#124 - She Wrote on The Book on Micro-Dramas and The "Secrets" Aren't What You Think - Part 1
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Feb 03, 2026 |
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#123 - Answering the Questions Everyone's Afraid to Ask
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Jan 27, 2026 |
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#122 - The Sexiest Man In Verticals Is Pushing The Genre Forward - Part 2
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Jan 20, 2026 |
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#121 - The Sexiest Man In Verticals Is Pushing The Genre Forward - Part 1
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Jan 13, 2026 |
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#120 - Who Controls Culture When No One's in Charge?
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Jan 06, 2026 |
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#119 - Check Your Hollywood Ego or Get Fired - Interview with Wayne Ren Part 2
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Dec 30, 2025 |
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#118 - Check Your Hollywood Ego or Get Fired - Interview with Wayne Ren Part 1
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Dec 23, 2025 |
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#117 - Emotional Junk Food & The Art of The Hook
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Dec 16, 2025 |
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#116 - Who the F&*k is watching these things? – Vertical micro drama Fan expert Jen Cooper spills the tea. Part 2
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Dec 09, 2025 |
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#115 - Who the F&*k is watching these things? – Vertical micro drama Fan expert Jen Cooper spills the tea. Part 1
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Dec 02, 2025 |
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#114 - Don't Confuse Cheap with Smart
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Nov 25, 2025 |
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#113 - The Micro-Drama Industrial Complex
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Nov 18, 2025 |
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#112 - Don't Say 'Gold Rush' Unless You're Holding A Shovel
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Nov 11, 2025 |
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#111 - Don't Miss. Less Money, More Drama
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Nov 04, 2025 |
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#110 - Inside the Mind of Timothy Oh: The Vertical Visionary Who Outran the Mob Part 2
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Oct 28, 2025 |
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#109 - Inside the Mind of Timothy Oh: The Vertical Visionary Who Outran the Mob Part 1
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Oct 21, 2025 |
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#108 - Trash, Treasure, or Just TikTok with Cliffhangers?
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Oct 14, 2025 |
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#107 - Verticals Weren't Born Yesterday
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Oct 07, 2025 |
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#106 - The Future of Storytelling (Or Just Another Exec Buzzword)
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Sep 30, 2025 |
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#105 - This Episode Will Outlive Your NFTs
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Sep 23, 2025 |
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#104 - Crimes Against Storytelling
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Sep 16, 2025 |
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#103 - Dinosaurs Don't Fit in 9:16
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Sep 11, 2025 |
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#101 - Quibi's Ghost and the Rise of Vertical Micro Dramas
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Sep 09, 2025 |
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#102 - Robots Don't Need Visas: AI, Gatekeeping, and Global Distrust of America
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Sep 09, 2025 |