No lesson-plans. No aims. No exams. Just short lively chats about education, English language teaching, life, values … and any sideroads we discover along the way. Two teachers looking back and wondering what they may have learnt over the years? … or completely failed to learn … Adrian Underhill wrote Sound Foundations and created the Phonemic Chart. He's a past President of IATEFL. Jim Scrivener wrote Learning Teaching, Classroom Management Techniques, Teaching English Grammar and many other ELT books. ... We'd love your questions and comments: adrianandjimpodcast@gmail.com