New Law Order is a podcast about the business of Big Law and the technologies remaking it. Hosts Joel Cohen (founder of TalksOnLaw) and Professor John Morley (Yale Law School) interview the lawyers, founders, academics, and judges quietly, and not so quietly, rewiring the legal industry. Each episode is a candid, on-the-record conversation about what is actually happening inside the world's most prestigious law firms, the rise of AI and legal technology in legal practice, the economics of the modern partnership, litigation finance, the future of associate work, and the structural shifts the legal industry would rather not talk about... but must. Recent guests include: - Brad Karp, Former Chairman, Paul, Weiss - John Quinn, founder, Quinn Emanuel - Chris Bogart, co-founder & CEO, Burford Capital - Mike Gerstenzang, former managing partner of Cleary Gottlieb - Jason Boehmig, CEO, Ironclad - Gretta Rusanow, Head of Advisory Services, Citi Law Firm Group - Jeffrey Toobin, legal analyst and bestselling author - Scott Shapiro, professor, Yale Law School - Hon. Paul Grimm, Duke Law - Richard Sander, UCLA Law Topics include: Big Law strategy, AI in law firms, legal tech, ClearyX, litigation finance, law firm profitability, the partnership model, generative AI for lawyers, deep fakes in evidence, affirmative action after SFFA v. Harvard, and how the legal industry is being restructured by software. CLE-eligible interview versions and additional legal analysis are available at TalksOnLaw.com. New Law Order is a TalksOnLaw production, supported by a grant from the Oscar M. Ruebhausen Fund at Yale Law School. For questions or comments, email the show at newlaworder@talksonlaw.com.