Description

Beyond Chatbots: The Second Wave of AI is a deep-dive podcast about what happens after the “chat” era—when AI stops being a helpful interface and starts becoming real infrastructure.

Each episode breaks down the second-wave shift: AI agents that execute workflows, multi-agent systems that collaborate like teams, and the hidden realities that decide who wins—reliability in production, verification and trust, compute + energy economics, open-source tradeoffs, and the impact on jobs, education, and power.

No glossy hype. No “prompt tips.” Just clear, practical conversations that separate demos from durable systems—so builders, founders, and operators can understand what’s coming and position themselves ahead of it.

If you’re building with AI—or building a business on top of it—this show is your map of the second wave.