Structural barriers for working class artists begin early and compound over time. In this podcast, James Payne and Leslie Primo combine lived experience with cultural analysis to unpack the role of class in Art. Through the lives and works of working-class artists, James and Leslie explore the conditions that shaped their careers and legacies. By examining the art world's unspoken codes of conduct, cultural gatekeeping, and inherited access, the Primo and Payne: Great Art Explained podcast reframes some of history’s greatest art as a question of class rather than merit alone.