9to5Mac Happy Hour

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Alan (UK)
 Sep 14, 2018
Have loved your podcast for so long even after having moved away from Apple products to Android last year. Unfortunately, whilst understanding the need for sponsors, the length of "adverts" is putting me off listening.

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A weekly podcast discussing the latest in Apple and technology. Hosted by 9to5Mac's Benjamin Mayo and Zac Hall.

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New 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro unleashed at the October Apple event
6182

This week on Happy Hour, Benjamin and Zac break down everything that was announced at the October 2021 Apple event, including the bizarre Apple Music Voice Plan, new AirPods and HomePod mini colors. But the stars of the show are the new 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro sporting the latest-generation Apple Silicon chips.

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HomePod mini and AirPods 3

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Oct 22, 2021
New MacBook Pro expectations unleashed, Apple Watch Series 7 reviews
4834

Benjamin and Zac discuss the initial reaction to the Apple Watch Series 7, HomeKit announcements, some TV+ news, and — most importantly — get hyped for the new MacBook Pros coming at the ‘Unleashed’ Apple event next week.

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Oct 15, 2021
Apple Watch goes on sale, Find My AirPods, iOS 15.1 beta 3
3833

This week on Happy Hour, Benjamin and Chance discuss this week’s Apple news including the latest antitrust case with the EU, the surprisingly fast availability of Apple Watch Series 7, new AirPods Find My features and a rumored roadmap for CarPlay. Plus, we cover what’s new in iOS 15.1 beta 3.

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Oct 08, 2021
Hands-on with iPhone 13 Pro, new iPad mini impressions, iTunes DRM struggles
6328

This week on Happy Hour, Zac gives his thoughts after a week with the iPhone 13 Pro and trying a new iPad mini at Best Buy. There’s also some news about Apple TV+ and a ‘High Power Mode’ for Mac. Plus, Zac and Benjamin explore how antiquated DRM of the iTunes Store continue to rear its ugly head on the modern Apple experience.

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Oct 02, 2021
iPhone 13 and iPad mini reviews, iOS 15 released, Epic trial conclusion
4953

This week on Happy Hour Zac and Benjamin break down the features and quirks revealed by the iPhone 13 reviews dropping, and consider the personal appeal of the new iPad mini. iOS 15 is here … and we catch up on the Epic Games lawsuit decision from a couple weeks ago.

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Sep 24, 2021
iPhone 13, iPad mini, and Apple Watch Series 7 first impressions
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This week on Happy Hour Zac and Benjamin break down all the announcements from the September Apple event, featuring the iPhone 13 and iPhone 13 Pro, Apple Watch Series 7 with larger display and the all-new iPad mini.

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Sep 17, 2021
iPhone 13, Apple Watch Series 7 and more September Apple event expectations
4615

This week on Happy Hour Benjamin and Zac discuss the latest leadership changes in the Apple Car teams, and get hyped for next week’s Apple event with last-minute rumor roundups for iPhone 13, Apple Watch Series 7 and more. California dreamin’.

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Sep 11, 2021
iPhone 13 satellite communication, Apple Watch production delays, App Store settlements
4357

This week on Happy Hour Benjamin and Zac break down the App Store settlements of the week, and the policy changes they have caused, as well as some fascinating rumors about the iPhone 13’s satellite communication abilities and the Apple Watch health sensor roadmap.

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Sep 03, 2021
Steve Jobs legacy, Apple Watch design changes, TestFlight on Mac
4919

This week on Happy Hour Zac and Benjamin take a retrospective tone this week, remembering the short-lived Cards app, the passing of Steve Jobs on the tenth anniversary of his retirement as CEO, all the incredible new features in iOS 15 beta 7, and the not-so-great-deal that is the Apple News Partner Program.

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Aug 27, 2021
iOS 15 Safari design reverted, Apple Watch Series 7 rumors, SharePlay delay
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This week, Benjamin and Zac reflect on the design safari that was the iOS 15 beta period for Apple’s browser, as well as cover the features that won’t quite make the cut for the .0 release. Also, there are more Apple Watch Series 7 rumors, an update on Apple TV+ movie pipeline, and more.

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Aug 20, 2021
iPhone 13 video features, Apple in the living room, more on iCloud Child Safety
4105

This week on Happy Hour, Benjamin and Zac follow up on the iCloud Child Safety backlash and look forward to the iPhone 13 with new reports from Bloomberg about expected new video and photo features. Plus, a wacky way to reset AirPods in iOS 15 and the state of Apple’s presence in the home.

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Aug 13, 2021
Apple Store Online, iCloud Photos adds new protections for child safety, titanium iPhone 14
5025

This week on Happy Hour Benjamin and Chance break down this week’s news including the new child safety initiatives for Messages and iCloud Photos, the possibility of a titanium iPhone in future, surprise updates to the Mac Pro and speculating on its future, and the implications of SiriKit intent deprecation.

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Aug 06, 2021
Always-on display for iPhone 13, iOS 15 beta 4 Safari changes, new Pro Display XDR rumors
4095

This week on 9to5Mac Happy Hour Zac and Benjamin discuss the latest Apple hardware rumors including a new smart Apple external display, an always-on iPhone 13, and the proliferation of Face ID across Apple’s product line. This week also saw the latest round of changes to Safari in iOS 15 beta 4, and Apple’s quarterly earning results give some insight on the planned fall release cycle. 

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Jul 30, 2021
MagSafe battery pack hands-on, zero-click iPhone exploits, TV+ rumors
4530

This week on 9to5Mac’s Happy Hour Zac and Benjamin discuss the practicalities and inconveniences of of the MagSafe Battery Pack, the fears surrounding the Pegasus zero-click malware affecting iPhones around the world, and some new possible new services initiatives include TV+ live sports and Apple Pay Later financing.

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    Jul 23, 2021
    Apple TV spatial audio, MagSafe battery pack, iOS 15 beta 3
    6573

    This week on 9to5Mac Happy Hour, Zac and Benjamin discuss the Spatial Audio and UI updates coming in tvOS 15, adapting to an iPadOS 15 lifestyle, the newly-announced MagSafe Battery Pack, and the latest changes to Safari in iOS 15 beta 3.

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    Jul 17, 2021
    iPadOS 15 productivity, state of Apple TV+, LiveWire review
    5847

    This week on Happy Hour 9to5Mac's Benjamin and Taylor assess the difference iPadOS 15 makes for iPad productivity, and tackle the state of Apple TV+. Plus, a bonus review of the LiveWire motorcycle.

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    Jul 09, 2021
    Big screen iPads, a decade of selfies, iOS 15 (public) beta 2
    3702

    This week on Happy Hour 9to5tMac’s Benjamin and Taylor discuss a bevy of recent iPad rumors, look back on a decade of the selfie, evaluate the new lineup of Apple Watch International bands, and discuss the new features and changes in iOS 15 beta 2.

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    Jul 02, 2021
    Antitrust bills, Safari struggles, iPadOS 15 keyboard shortcuts
    5059

    This week on Happy Hour, 9to5Mac's Benjamin and Taylor give their thoughts on the redesigned Safari across iPhone, iPad, and Mac after a few weeks of getting accustomed to the new versions. There’s also a lot of antitrust regulatory news to cover … and iOS 15 beta 2 interrupts the show.

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    Jun 25, 2021
    Spatial Audio, Beats Studio Buds, and Apple hardware rumors
    5088

    This week 9to5Mac's Benjamin and Zac discuss the long-awaited release of Apple Podcast Subscriptions, Spatial Audio in Apple Music, the new Beats Studio Buds, and rumors about upcoming new Apple devices.

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    Jun 18, 2021
    iOS 15, watchOS 8, macOS Monterey and tvOS 15 impressions
    8378

    This week 9to5Mac's Benjamin and Zac break down everything that happened at this week’s WWDC keynote, with first impressions of iOS 15, watchOS 8, tvOS 15, and macOS Monterey — as well as Apple’s latest announcements in the health, fitness, and smart home space.

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    Jun 11, 2021
    WWDC hopes, dreams, and expectations
    7037

    This week on Happy Hour 9to5Mac's Benjamin and Zac explore this week’s news including the delay of Podcasts Subscriptions, AirTags stalking, Apple’s new remote work policies for employees, and the ‘homeOS’ job listing. They then get hyped for WWDC next week.

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    Jun 04, 2021
    Hands on with the new Apple TV and M1 iPad Pro
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    Zac and Benjamin close out the Apple/Epic trial, marvel at some amazing upcoming Apple Watch accessibility features, analyze the rumored thinner M1X Mac mini mockups, and give their hands-on impressions with the new M1 iPad Pro and the new Apple TV remote. 

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    May 28, 2021
    Lossless Apple Music, iPadOS wishes, Apple Silicon rumors
    6355

    This week on Happy Hour Zac and Benjamin break down all the announcements out of Apple Music this week, with Lossless and Spatial Audio. Plus, there’s a new 2021 Pride Band, rumors about upcoming Apple Silicon Macs, new truly wireless earbuds from Beats, and wishes for iPadOS 15 as we approach WWDC.

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    May 20, 2021
    Apple hires, AirTag hacks, watchOS 8 feature requests
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    This week on 9to5Mac's Happy Hour, Apple welcomes a new corporate communications chief, as the company draws criticism for a new high-profile hire. Zac and Benjamin also cover the latest in smart home Matters, AirTag hacks, and look forward to watchOS 8.

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    May 14, 2021
    Apple Music HiFi rumors, AirTag hands-on, Epic court battle commences
    4910

    There’s a flurry of rumors this week about a new premium 'HiFi' tier for Apple Music and some disappointing news about the iPad mini. Zac and Benjamin also go hands-on with the AirTag, and Apple execs head to the courtroom.

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    May 07, 2021
    First iOS 15 rumors, App Tracking Transparency, Apple earnings
    4529

    This week 9to5Mac's Zac Hall and Benjamin Mayo apologize for Apple Podcast's issues, explore the launch of App Tracking Transparency and the big new features in Apple's just released software updates. Then, they discuss the rumored software updates coming at WWDC.

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    Apr 30, 2021
    April Apple event impressions, new iMac, AirTag and more [Repost]
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    Developer Transition Kit update

    Zac Hall: [00:00:00] This week on 9to5Mac Happy Hour. We're going to talk a little bit about Apple car. A lot about IO is 14.5 features and some Apple glasses streamers. And then some Apple TV plus stuff has come up this week. So let's start out with the developer transition kit update. We spoke last time. Yeah. I mean, I broke the news to you about how like, you know, halfhearted the deal was, and, and then you broke the story to me on, on how they fixed it.

    So what, what, what are the details there? Yeah. 

    Ben Mayo: [00:00:47] Like. There was a very muted response, I think, to DTK thing. And, and look, we, you know, we're privileged people to even get the development of first place, so to be able to afford it right. But everyone was based on the precedent of what they did for the Intel to for the past PC to Intel position where, when the DTK went back, what got replaced was an iMac of equivalent value.

    And then this. Pregnant comes along. Obviously they never promised it. Right. So you can't get too mad. Right? They, you said that the, the, the, the transaction was stated, you pay $500, you get to use this thing, and then we want it back done. But there was like, you know, is that what they're going to offer us a nice little bonus.

    And I sit with, thank you. And what we got slapped with last week was a $200 credit that you had to use by the end of may. Which just feels terrible, like, especially as a, not me. Cause I didn't actually get any M one compatible stuff out yet, but a lot of the developers that do get that kit, they're the most dedicated people in the community they're rushing to support, you know, Apple's latest platforms on day one, often with the bad quality apps as well, right.

    Just the bad, you know, just the bad quality developers or the people getting that care. And they're like, You coming off Aqua's biggest quarter ever. And what do they give you? They give you a tangible credit on something you paid $500 for. And you've got used by the end of may, before it could be an immediacy before WWC.

    Any of the cool rumor stuff actually comes out and it's like, do you want to get this map book that you might've already bought? Well, incredibly. They actually had a change of heart. I can't believe they actually changed the moment, but on February 6th they sent out a new email and the new email basically said, we understand, we heard you, and this is what we're doing instead.

    So rather than a $200 credit that expires at the end of may. Now all of us fancy developers can get a $500 credit. Which is the same price as what we paid for the drug in the first place and the credit doesn't expire until the end of December. So it runs through the end of this year, better than you'll get a dreamed of.

    So now my forthcoming. Cool. M one X six inch mapper pro would have been $500 cheaper because I paid phones and I was a bit last year prepaid a little bit. I prepared. Yeah. 

    Zac Hall: [00:03:00] That's very good at that because it especially feels good. Like if they would've just on that had been like, Okay, cool. But because it was so half-hearted before, you know, it was more than half, but it was less than half the, the value that was like, Oh, this really is a good value compare because it was so low 

    Ben Mayo: [00:03:17] before.

    Yeah. And now we feel great about it. And they also clarified that for people that have actually already bought M one staff and they didn't need it, they'll be able to use the credit on any purchase in the Apple store that helps them with development. But I think it just basically means you can buy whatever you want with it.

    No. Okay. So get you some AirPods, max, pay an extra $50 and get some AirPods, 

    Zac Hall: [00:03:36] man. They really, they help with development. I mean, they do a lot of things with them. Yeah, 

    Ben Mayo: [00:03:40] definitely. I'm going to make everybody, I'm going to make an edit buddy compare and go against Rambo. 

    Zac Hall: [00:03:44] I'm going to make an everybody's to come back.

    Ben Mayo: [00:03:48] No, but I'll be saving mine for the property. Okay. $3,000 end up having to spend or whatever on the 16th mapper pro at the end of the year. Good call. Like it's a nice, it's at least the, at least they listened to the community, right? Like there's been no, quite a lot of, you know, roundabouts of does Apple really care about the community?

    Do they really care about the big PayPal? Did any come out the people that are giving them subscription revenue every five seconds, or did they actually care about like, you know, the small people, the indie developers and at least the fact that they saw this response and they. Did something about it? You know, it's got to make people feel good versus the kind of like sour taste in the mouth.

    So I have indeed prepared the packaging as the email asks me to call now I await my email turf to send it back. Are you ready? 

    Zac Hall: [00:04:29] Are you allowed to mail things in the UK right now? 

    Ben Mayo: [00:04:32] That is a good question actually. Like, I mean, technically if they do a courier service, I can like drop it off at the door.

    If they expect me to go to the post office, then I guess I'll have to negotiate with the British government that sending back at him. One developer kit is a, an essential 

    Zac Hall: [00:04:47] service. Does he have to be the theater to do this? Basically? All right. 

    Ben Mayo: [00:04:51] Let's go with, you have to return it promptly. I think like you get the voucher to use, but by the end of the year, but they want the thing back sent back.

    What should it be? 

    Apple Car Talks

    Zac Hall: [00:04:58] This should be a reality, reality show. It's planet. What is it called? Planet of the apps? Here's season two. Let's talk about some Apple car stuff, because we spoke over the last few weeks about how Apple is talking with they slash Kia about manufacturing, the Bali of their car, just doing the, making the Apple cart for Apple 

    Ben Mayo: [00:05:22] Foxconn of the iPhone, but for the cab.

    Zac Hall: [00:05:24] Yeah. And Hyundai was pretty chatty about it. And then they were like, we're not actually working with them. Just really bizarre stuff. It seems that there's at least reporting this week that that all talks between Apple and Hyundai slash Kia have stopped. You know, we don't know if it's because of the chattiness in the press or, or what, but just this is all weird to me.

    That's all I'm going to say. 

    Ben Mayo: [00:05:48] I mean, maybe in the Steve jobs era, if a company said something slightly too early, They get caught off and never spoken to ever again. But yeah, it's a bit beyond the childishness of that nowadays. Like 

    Zac Hall: [00:06:01] whatever. Well, it was reportedly buying beads and it was going to be for 3.3.

    Billion dollars. 3.2. Yeah. 3.2 million. And then it ended up just being three flat because of Dr. Dre celebration video. Yeah. 

    Ben Mayo: [00:06:16] That was actually the reason, but that was like float around as the reason it's 

    Zac Hall: [00:06:19] good head Canon. 

    Ben Mayo: [00:06:20] Why not outside? Well, that's $3.6 billion investment that kids get, or you just spent half, not only getting 1.8.

    No, but that's obviously not how it works. Right? Like, you know, Apple can't back down like. It felt, you know, cause Foxconn leaks stuff about the iPhone quite often, like we see those internal presentations where they're like the iPhone 12 is going to have 5g and they have a do a little PowerPoint slide for everybody and it leaks and you know, they never get repercussions of that stuff cause they haven't got a choice like they have to.

    And if Apple wants us manufacturing of their car, They only have a very limited number of options. And if they've already basically signed the dotted line for, you know, a $4 billion deal with Highlander, they're not going to back out of that just because it leaked out to the price it's just unrealistic.

    But I think what the truth here is because the news is basically like a client, Diane, the affiliate Kia basically. Did a legal fight in this week that said they had that they aren't in discussions with Apple and corporate and driving a car. So that kind of like flattened the idea, right. Even though crazily, we were just talking, the reason it popped up in, you know, even on the podcast so much was like, you know, CNBC and ruse were like saying, is it as if it was like a signed deal and it's going to be announced on February 17th, if you remember that.

    Like, so the fact that those massive publications have got the wrong end of the stick, that's kind of crazy, but I don't know. I 

    Zac Hall: [00:07:31] haven't due on that date. Yeah, 

    Ben Mayo: [00:07:34] you're wa it's just a boring out February 17th. Now there's Apple car announcement. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what, obviously Apple is going to be making a car like, or at least they are currently again, looking to make a car based on this latest rumor.

    It seems like the enthusiasm and the hype train is probably a bit premature. I think they're still gonna do it. Right? Like, but maybe it's not announced in February. Maybe it will be later in the year. Maybe they've found all those suppliers they're negotiating with maybe, maybe the high end icon and Kia deal was like on the table, but it wasn't like signed.

    So then they'd been looking around talking to other people and now they'd like, you know, maybe found someone else for instance. So that's how I read it. Obviously it's like, you know, the automotive industries and our special specialty, but just in terms of like the Apple rumors fair, that's how I kind of see it.

    But. Like, like as soon as there's a, if you're only in the anti-Apple car camp, as soon as there's a report, that's like, Oh, now they're not there to Africa. Everyone's like, Oh, I told you, so this is the Apple television set all over again that never going to make one. It's just all flummery and made up words and, you know, Chinese whispers, like it's not real.

    You can't say that, like, you know, we just talked about that. Hide the poor chassis had a, you know, had a body and chassis, right? Like they're building this team out and they're going to probably not to make the next iPhone. Yeah, they're going to be making hardware, some hardware contribution to the car market at some point, maybe in five years, maybe in 10 years.

    And I know as we still know just about all this there's, the autonomous driving aspect is still way underway. There was that. Did you see the filing that they released with the California government, that the number of hours or the number of miles driven by the Apple cart? You know, like prototypes basically doubled over 2020.

    So they're obviously, you know, ramping it up and they're disengagement went down. So like they get in there. Right. And I assume they're trying to time it so that when the autonomous system is ready to go, it will be perfectly timed with the hardware being ready to actually ship the car. Yep. 

    Zac Hall: [00:09:32] And even though we don't have anything for February 17th anymore, they send that one crazy river.

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    Setting Spotify as default music service for Siri

    Zac Hall: [00:11:37] Thanks. TextExpander. IOS 14.5. We discussed this last week that this software update that's in beta right now for developers and public beta testers things like the redesigned podcast app.

    The ability to unlock your, your, your iPhone with your Apple watch on your wrist. If you're wearing a mask very, very useful, which last 

    Ben Mayo: [00:11:55] week you hadn't used. Cause you didn't turn it on. Yeah. It's very 

    Zac Hall: [00:11:57] useful when you turn it on. Yeah. Approached pretty well. It's a little bit weird whenever it says that your watch is not close enough to the phone, even though you're holding your phone and your watch wrist hand.

    But yeah, last. But we still have new things to talk about. And I was fortunately five, some, some new things that have been discovered. So let's begin with Spotify. What's what's new at Spotify as it comes to iOS for two point. Oh 

    Ben Mayo: [00:12:21] yeah. So obviously the HomePod supported third-party music services on it natively.

    Very recently, right. And Pandora have adopted that. We're still waiting for others to do it like Spotify. And then if you go back to iOS 13 Apple added the Siri kit, media intense, which let you control third party music apps. Like you can do the, the Apple music app through Siri on the iPhone.

    But there was no facility. And I was 13 up to now to be able to specify like, I don't want to use Apple music. I want to use Spotify predominantly. So if you just asked a generic music request to Siri, like, you know, play Taylor Swift, it would always. Go to Apple music. You'd have to explicitly say play Taylor Swift on Spotify for it to instead route the request to the Spotify application on the iPhone.

    Right? What now? Well, wasn't actually announced, this is like a feature or thing. It's just kind of turned up in the, in the Bayer. So maybe it's like premature and they're going to take it out or they haven't decided it's going to ship yet or not. But what people have discovered in foreign 0.5 is that when you interact with Siri for the first time after updating with music, it'll actually prompt you.

    To pick a default music service. And what it does is it brings up a little list on the screen of Apple music, Spotify, Pandora, all the, all the apps that you have installed that support the Siri kit, media intense. So all the apps that previously you could use via Siri by saying, you know, play this song on Spotify, I'll play a song on Pandora, or would those apps now appear on a.

    It will list as part of the series. Have you experienced any happens one time, no cheesy D for music service. And so if you pick Spotify from then on, when you just a unqualified requests, like play this album, play this playlist, play this artist it weren't a full-time music anymore. It will, it will be as if you said on Spotify at the end of it.

    So you're basically getting a default music service through Siri for the first time, which is pretty cool. It's also kind of strange. It just kind of popped out the blue, like it's like, Oh, here we go. Like, Oh wait, we're not going to read it. You announced it as a feature. I mean, already with Aras 14, they announced, you know, you can set your default web browser or default email app.

    Right. And yeah, they work to a limited extent, but they do work, but you know, they've sneaked in here and offered it for music. The thing is they could offer this for like every Siri kit, domain you know, there's like messaging reminders, mapping, and navigation, and. So far in filling this Ivy only offers you default options for music, which spell it, but 

    Zac Hall: [00:14:48] there you go.

    I would love if it worked with the reminders. I mean, with the things that you could just use things as your reminders app, 

    Ben Mayo: [00:14:56] and it would be to say on things every single time 

    Zac Hall: [00:14:59] with things, you know? Yeah. Yeah. And also there's a really good example of this being used already with what Amazon does. With echo products and the Alexa app, because you set the category for your preferred.

    Music streaming service and your preferred music radio service. So you could say, I want my on demand stuff to come from Spotify, but my streaming stuff to come, or my radio and an algorithm radio to come from Pandora. You know, I think there's probably more likely that you've got the same for both, but that's how far.

    The, the ecosystem goes it it's an obvious next step, perhaps when UI for this, especially. So it's discoverable because it's of how do you invoke it now? You just talk, you talk to Siri and then it, you, you ask it to use Spotify and then it, then it. Suggested 

    Ben Mayo: [00:15:46] for you. Yeah. Basically I think the way it works is first time you update the phone book five, whenever you next, make a music requests, it would say pick a default service, and then you choose it from the list.

    Or afterwards you can like specifically ask Siri to change your default music service. And then it will give you the options. Or this is meant to give you the options. But yeah, like you're right. It's not very discoverable because if you, if you choose Apple music the first time, and then you forget, there's no like.

    You UI to change it with the web browser and Safari stuff. If you go into settings and you go onto Safari, it says like default browser. And it says, you know, if you pick Chrome or something, instead as of the current beta, if you go into the music app where you've selected, like Spotify, it doesn't have any interface, they changed it back.

    So they should definitely add that. And if they're going to keep adding more and more of these like default preferences, they need to like, Make us a dedicated section of settings where it just has all the stuff listed and you can tweak it to your heart's content. 

    Zac Hall: [00:16:34] Yeah. They have a series settings 

    Ben Mayo: [00:16:35] section.

    So by the way, I think this has still has the same limitations as the HomePod music thing, where. Like, if you pick a third party service, it will try and use that for podcasts or audio books and music. Like it only knows this, the audio domain, it doesn't have subcategories beyond that. So it's a bit of an issue there.

    Like if you're using Spotify for music and podcasts, when it's fine, right. Or if you only ask for music, like personally, for me, if I did use it, I use Apple podcasts at the moment, but if I did use a third party podcast app and I wanted to use Spotify, it wouldn't actually bother me. Cause I don't know. I never asked Siri to.

    Play podcasts. If you see what I always ask her to play music, but I never I to play podcasts. I don't know why is it just a rally because it's not reliable. Yeah. I mean, that's probably one of them. No, I mean, right. Like it's so it, you know, it's better than nothing obviously, but ideally down the road they'd have like, you know, it doesn't need to be complicated.

    You just have every single category and it says whap, you want to use by preference and you can still use the other ones just by saying their name. But it's a nice, they've done it. And obviously there's the antitrust thing having over here that this probably helps them assuage some of that criticism.

    Maps getting Waze-style accident/speed trap reporting

    Zac Hall: [00:17:41] Yeah. Something else that I, I discovered this week with Siri is I was on my motorcycle and I was using AirPods for audio navigation and a series set over the AirPods. Did you know, or you can now tell me about accidents along your out. And I was like, Oh, okay, cool. So then I tried it in the moment and I said, Siri, there's an accident.

    And then gave me the definition of accident and asked me if I wanted it to read more. And I said, no, but it was okay. It it's the, the voice activated version of this new user interface that's in maps and maps has a little bit of a redesign in terms of the current you're you're. Now you're currently navigating screen.

    I think everything's just, there's like more rounded buttons and it's just tweaked a little bit. But what they've definitely added in there is the ability to get feedback. Along the route to say. There is a, there's an accident that I had. There's a speed trap ahead so that if you're going to come around the corner and there's a police officer taking, you know, taking radar, then you can Mark that in the same fashion as what, as what the app ways does.

    And ways it was a dependent and then it was bought by Google. And so now it's a Google property. Apple now has full control of their map data in, in many parts of the world. So this is, I guess, just one more example of, of where they go from, from there by owning their own data. And it's. Yeah. I, I don't, I don't expect it to be as robust as what yeah.

    It's just because of the whole networking thing. I mean, it's just a beta right now, but maybe, you know, come iOS 15, Iowa, 16, this isn't in the wild and other people know about it. And the ability to do this. With Siri is useful because I believe to do the, do the report, an accident with ways you have to tap through the user interface or make a Siri shortcut for it, which who does that.

    And so they have it, the ability to have it as a Siri command and say, Hey Siri, there's a, there's an accident I had is, is useful. I, once you get down the, the wording the right way, excuse that I didn't quite do it for some reason. 

    Ben Mayo: [00:19:52] Yeah. So the, the categories that you can report for is accident, hazard and speed check.

    That's what they call it. And so you've got a red icon, you got a yellow icon, you've got blue icon You like, this is cool and it's great. They're doing it. Cause you know, we've seen that when they control the data for their maps, they can offer better experiences. Right. And they've delivered that with a rural map data.

    And if they can build on that with, you know, navigation, directions and smarter. Stuff there. It'd be great, but like, there is a kind of social networking chicken and egg aspect to this, where to actually the reason why he's valid, always not because you can report accidents it's because other people report accidents and then it routes you around them.

    Right? Like, so for this to work well, this stuff actually has to be used. People have to report it. And so then when you go to you know, do a map, do a rooting with Siri on. Apple maps in the future. He actually gives you a better route because it can be informed by the upcoming accidents or the hazards.

    Or even like, I dunno, I dunno how they're going to fully expose this yet. Cause this is just a beta for reporting, but like, cause for stuff like hazards and accidents. Yeah. Obviously it's going to just like route you around them. Right. And that's hopefully what you would do, but for something like the speed check stuff, is it going to like, I guess, I guess they have speed camera.

    You like smokers on the map as a vice 14 anyway. Yeah. There's police 

    Zac Hall: [00:21:12] markers for speed, for track, for speed cameras and then red light cameras. And then they also tell you, like, if you're actively navigating, CA will tell you as part of your directions red light camera had, so yes, I guess it may be, Oh, I don't know that that way is quite, does that I think weighs it has some of it.

    It will give you an alert. Yeah, it, it notifies you. So th th but this will be good was once that it's actively in a non beta version of iOS and people are heavily using it 

    Ben Mayo: [00:21:43] out of character for them to offer you to like, report speed cameras. 

    Zac Hall: [00:21:46] I didn't set out 

    Ben Mayo: [00:21:47] to me like, cause I feel like in the past, and maybe I've got the impression that that was the kind of thing Apple maps was never going to do because you know, Apple wants you to follow the law in all circumstances, but.

    I mean, if they're going to show you the speed cameras on the map, they might as well let you have to use the report. It's big cameras as well. Yeah. 

    Zac Hall: [00:22:05] I mean like, well, remember when Apple went head to head with the FBI over encryption, you know, I know this is different, 

    Ben Mayo: [00:22:13] but funny thing where it's like, because he's not on a mission to like break the law, but it's kinda like.

    This helps you break the law. Do you know what I mean? Like, it's, it's a weird thing like Apple's brand to have, but the reality is every other mapping app that has, you know, user contributed data, crowdsource data offers the speed check stuff, so they couldn't not do it right though. 

    Zac Hall: [00:22:32] Mainly maybe I'll get pulled out of the band and we'll hear your story about how it was, it was in Rogan turn, who included this stuff, 

    Ben Mayo: [00:22:40] but yeah, like it'd be, it's cool that they've added the reporting and then we'll have to wait and see how they actually like expose it on routes to, you know, to actually be useful.

    Yep. That's all 

    New fraudulent website warning behavior

    Zac Hall: [00:22:48] right. And then the last thing that we've noticed this week, and now it's 14.5 is how fraudulent website warning the setting works and I was watching the 0.5 because it's already there in previous versions, but how it behaves a different is that right? 

    Ben Mayo: [00:23:04] Yeah. So I bet you remember the story, the background of this, because, but do you remember like, was it a year or so ago?

    There was a big up that Apple was reporting. Web browsing hits to Baidu in China. Okay. And basically, so the safe browsing feature, this is existed for ages and this is on every browser, right? When you visit a website, it checks against a database to see if it's like. You know, bad, right? Or it's like a scam or whatever.

    And if it's in the database, it can show that alert on the screen instead of actually taking it to the website. But to do that, you know how to do it, it's somewhat on private, right? Because it's basically having to send the website that you're on to a third party to validate it and send you back. The response now is more complicated than that because they like hash the around and they only send parts of it.

    And, you know, they try and make it good. But at some level, You're sending every page, you visit somebody else. And this happens in the U S and most of the world through Google's fraudulent safe browsing service. It's used by Firefox. I think it's used by those browsers. It's used by Safari and then in China, because Google is blocked in China, they use the Baidu version and about a year or so ago, there was like a semi privacy scandal because it was like, Apple sending every website you visit to China, you know, that kind of, that kind of story.

    What they've done in 14.5 is they basically taken the privacy protections to another level because now rather than. Safari browser contacting like the Google service directly. It first contacts like an Apple endpoint and the Apple endpoint contacts, Google abide you on the back end. So basically your IP address now no longer gets sent to Google or Baidu or whoever else they use for fraudulent search in the future.

    So it's slightly more privacy preserving in that way, because. Your IP addresses any of it, getting to share to Apple because then they go and make the request for you for, to Google and to think anything. So it's an improvement. And as they continue to tout you know, they're focused on privacy and security.

    It should be their prerogative to do this wherever they can, like tying down the hatches in every, in every single way. Like, if you want to talk the talk, you gotta walk the walk and this is a way to do it. 

    Zac Hall: [00:25:12] Well, that makes sense to me. Do you think any other podcasts, Apple podcasts, podcasts for the iPod max every week?

    Ben Mayo: [00:25:19] Talk about AirPods max every week, no podcast with poke us whip. It was nice every day. Yeah. So fine. Now I only know that you're the one that does it. So yeah, 

    Zac Hall: [00:25:31] I just wanted to mention it because it's every week I'm consistent here. All right. Let's take a sponsor break. 

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    Ben Mayo: [00:27:26] you've got your own, I've seen the American office, then you have your own version over there.

    I actually prefer the American office to the British one. Okay, cool. 

    Details on Dan Riccio’s secret project

    Zac Hall: [00:27:34] All right. Good to know. Let's talk about Dan Richie. O's secret project. We discussed this whenever Apple made their. No vague mysterious pressure leads to say that the Dan ratio is no longer going to be what the VP of hardware. And he was now going to be working on a, a secret project.

    I think, I think the guesses were, were two things, you know, Apple glasses or Apple car, and then you can narrow it down and say, well, which one's more likely to happen, you know, sooner you know, domestic gas. And there's also w w w you know, our, our former colleague Mark Harmon at Bloomberg, he had reported this week that, that.

    That reports on what it is now, just a guess, but, but based on reporting. So what is Dan working on? 

    Ben Mayo: [00:28:16] Man? Go into Bloomberg. Dan Richo is transitioning to oversee the AR headset, the AR slash VR headset. He's on the team that's developing future Apple and VR headsets. There's obviously the reamer that is going to be kind of like a developer version or a super high end, like $3,000 headset coming in 2022.

    You know, that's going to have super high resolution displays and it's going to be expensive. And, but the idea is this will come out and then down the road, they're going to do one that is like, actually, what's going to be as big as the iPhone. So, you know, like the Apple watch or larger ambitions, like the $3,000 headset is not going to have Apple watch ambitions.

    And you know, that blue book report from a couple of weeks ago said they aim to sell one per store per day or something. So which is like 200,000 units a year, which then know that that is 

    Zac Hall: [00:29:00] cheaper than some of the original Apple watch models. 

    Ben Mayo: [00:29:03] It's true. Yeah. They're not going to come out where they are with the AR headset in solid gold.

    Yeah. So Bloomberg says the Apple is hitting roadblocks and developing its AI has so, and that's the first one. So I guess Russia Rickio is gonna, you know, step back from his day-to-day responsibilities of doing or with Apple, hydro engineering. So we can help ship the. You know, the developer buy a prototype wherever you want to call it, industry focused one out the door.

    And then after that's done, be able to move on to get the, you know, the mass consumer one on the way. Yeah. It says the app has informed staff that they also transitioned in the group. That's Connie work on in-house displays and camera technology under Johnny  control. So, so Ruggie is obviously the one that's managing Silicon design and the a team leader for, you know, the M one chips, the eight, 14 series, all that stuff, and motive, modems, currently charged practices and modems.

    We haven't yet seen. The Apple modem come out, but that's obviously in development, that was last room. It's becoming like 20, 23, 20, 24. What's the hold up for 

    Zac Hall: [00:30:08] max getting cellular is 

    Ben Mayo: [00:30:12] if they wait too, if they really do wait to 2024 to give you a say about it, that'll be 

    Zac Hall: [00:30:17] good. The, the low traffic. Cause there's like nothing in licensing fees.

    Cause it's so, so low volume. 

    Ben Mayo: [00:30:23] Yeah. The Goodwill of the  architecture transition will have more than died out. But yeah, that's interesting. Cause they're moving under his domain as the rumors that Apple are developing their own micro led displays. Right. They're going to ship fully custom displays, probably starting with the Apple watch.

    At some point there's been on an offering that they've got a little like headquarters near, near like a dedicated building Apple park where they're like growing. Cause Marco lady's like organic. So you're like. Growing the screens, and then you work out to make one or two of them and it's like, Oh, this is great.

    And then you've hit the problems of how do you make a million of them. So that's, that's kind of where micro led is sitting at the moment. It's like, you can make some in a lab and they look really cool. And then how'd you get you is up to actually be practical. But if that's going to reach his head, that probably means that probably signals this closer to being done because generally a lot of the time Apple like incubate something.

    And then when it's like getting close to prime time, they then go and give it to lo. The head of the, the head of the group. 

    Zac Hall: [00:31:22] Otherwise you're not going to waste that executives time on something that's R and D. 

    Ben Mayo: [00:31:26] Yeah, like R and D projects, aren't going to get that kind of attention. Right. I think we saw the same kind of thing with the Apple watch or like the iPad, like the VPs that they work on the iPhone.

    And then as the iPad got close to ship, they pick, you know, some of their favorite VPs to go and head up the iPad project to actually get out of the door. Same with the Apple watch. And obviously the same things playing out here where they are Those inside Apple hope that Ricky owes hardware expertise will help move past the issues that they're having.

    But did you say work on the project is still being led by Mike Rockwell? So he's still leading what bimbo describes as well over a thousand engineers working on the AR and VR headsets, but. They hope that re that Ricky has influence is actually going to make a difference in getting the thing out the door.

    And finally Bloomberg basically says that around last March Rickio had handed oversight of many, many of his responsibilities already, like electrical engineering, product design and project management for the iPhone. And most of Apple was other major products to John Turner's who don't obviously John Tony's and now they have the SVP of hundred engineering, but it seems like this, this transition has been long in the works and it started last year and now it's been formalized basically.

    Very cool. 

    Apple Glasses displays to use micro OLED

    Zac Hall: [00:32:33] And, and there is this well, where are we in Apple glasses? I mean, what, what's your timeline that you think this is going to be more than just the $3,000 thing that 

    Ben Mayo: [00:32:44] we, the problem with the, the real glasses, right? Is that. Current technology can't make them like, you just have battery problems.

    Like if you want something to have a decent battery life, like if you want to, if you're gonna, if you, if you need to product that you're going to wear all day long, it needs to have all day battery. Is that the same? Probably with the Apple watch, right? Like. And people complain about the Apple watch battery life.

    Like there is a limit on how much stuff people are gonna accept to be able to charge on a regular basis. And the very minimum for all that gas is, is you wanna be able to wear them all day long? Like you can't, you can't have AR glasses. Do you wear for like three hours and then even the trucks? Yeah.

    Yeah. Like that's just stupid. Like people cause people that obviously, if you don't need glasses to see, it's like, okay, you've put in your bag, but people are gonna, they're not gonna carry two pairs of glasses around. Do you know what I mean? Like you just going to need. They're going to need to last a long time.

    But to last a long time, you need bigger batteries, but then that means you kind of a slim and slender design, which they looks bad, so they can't be made. Right. That's the current issue with the air gas it's thing, like the headsets it's going to like HoloLens. Right. And that's just a big thing that, you know, you look like a a submarine controller with a, you know, the whole, the mask on and everything like, and that's fine if you're doing industry work or you're just playing games in the comfort of your own home.

    Although I don't, I doubt that the $3,000 headset is going to be a big hit in terms of gaming at that price point. Just cause it's so expensive. Right. And, but if you're trying to make a lifestyle AR Garcia's product, no, I had set. There's a reason. None of them exist. Right? The closest you saw was like Google glass, but that wasn't anything close to the actual AR experience.

    It was like a little screen that was in the top of the heads of display. Yeah. Heads up display. Yeah. The Google glasses. It was like an Apple watch that you could see by looking forward rather than looking at your wrist. Right. And maybe Apple does ship a portal like that sooner than anything else, but that's not going to be like, obviously what they want to do with like a proper AI and mixed reality AR experience.

    So I think, I think they are project is like, Still years away. So when did Lynch join for the Apple watch? That was like 2012, 2013, basically. I, 

    Zac Hall: [00:34:47] I, I, it had to be after 2013 because I started at 95 back in April, 2013, I think we both said, and, and 

    Ben Mayo: [00:34:58] after that, so it was probably 2013, 2014, basically in the airport shipped.

    No, he's gotta be longer than 24 because the airport was announced at the end of the year. Like, yeah. So it's gotta be, it's probably around 2013, probably sometime in 2013. So, I mean, if you work on the airport's timeline, you've got two more years, but yeah, but you can't just copy and paste that over to this cause it's good.

    Different, different ball game. Right. But yeah, I think you've at least got two years. Let's put it that way. 

    Zac on motorcycle helmet with CarPlay

    Zac Hall: [00:35:23] Yeah. A friend Chaos Tiana on Twitter. Yeah, a few weeks ago he sent me a link to. A motorcycle helmet that I think in his words apparently works with CarPlay and the apparently is pretty strong there because it looked at it and it's called highlights.

    I ride and the whole Apple glasses thing. Got me thinking about this again. What it is. Yeah, it's a six, it costs about $600 us dollars. You add it to any helmet I already have, and this is whole system that there is like Bluetooth and voice control. And speakers, which you can already do all those things with the helmet, but it also has one of those little tiny prism lenses that you have, I guess, angled so that you can see through it as you're writing and projected on Google glasses.

    Exactly. Like Google us. And they, they work out in some way to project apps, like ways Google maps and they even show CarPlay projected. No, I'm not so sure how they achieve that. You know, I know that there's aftermarket ways to have wireless CarPlay on an existing car play system. And it's like, it runs a version of, of ILS on that little dongle and in a way that's not very trustworthy, but it works.

    This thing, I don't have one to test it out yet, but it just, the, the premise alone to have a heads-up display, like, like this, or not, not even AR glasses, but this thing that attaches to your, to your helmet is just you put your helmet on and then you can see, you know, with translucency. So you, you see through it, but it's also on the road.

    There's that? And that's something that you can. Apparently by today, I don't want to risk $600 on trying to get it, but that's out there and it made me think this is a thing that would be useful for, for, you know, the Apple glasses in the future. You know, definitely not the HoloLens version, but, but the long-term goal Because right now I'm navigating, you know, if you're in the car, not your phone or have a screen and your car screen.

    I Mount my, my, my phone on the, on the handlebars and that works out really well, but sometimes the phone's in my pocket and I'm using the watch and that's a little bit too far from my comfort zone. And so this would be neat to have, and it certainly isn't the full CarPlay experience, you know And the other thing I, I, I stumbled upon today and looking at looking for the first thing that I lied.

    I ride product. It's something called life map and it's still not really AR I mean, it, it tries what this does is it's, it's, it's a full motorcycle helmet. So the first thing you put on your helmet of any type, this thing is the helmet itself. And it's got this, you know, project, your bolts in the Google glass style.

    And it overlays, I guess it looks at the road and overlays. Lane guidance on the road and that's this big thing. And it costs $2,500, which I thought about. So that was interesting to be the single obligation use of something like this. And then they promise availability in Q3 of 2022. 

    Ben Mayo: [00:38:21] No, it's a bit, a bit of a wide off.

    Then you could buy an Apple cart by that time. 

    Zac Hall: [00:38:24] Yes, this says specific Q3, you know, usually you see like the first half, second half, or like two, one, you know, but say Q3 the first half of the second half of the year, we think we'll start this thing. But 

    Ben Mayo: [00:38:37] that's what I hope they do on the Apple cart, by the way, when they eventually do make one, like as the.

    Not just a heads up display, but like, you'd be a proper overlaid light. So you almost get like a mixed reality AR experience projected onto the road. We'd like, cause I always talk about how we need it on the Apple maps on the IFO, where you get the little augmented reality thing to point you left and right.

    Which I still haven't shipped, but they should totally do like do that on the actual car. And then maybe if you're like sitting in traffic, you can like press a button and it zooms forward to the what do they, what do they call their Google street view? What's it code? Look around, look around. Yeah.

    So, you know, you get stuck in traffic and you just want to see what you're getting to. You press a little button and then you know what you're looking at instead zooms forward. And you can almost pretend like you're already there. Like, that's what I want from the applicant. It's gotta be that cool. Like, yeah.

    Zac Hall: [00:39:21] A friend, a friend of mine has a BMW SUV that projects out onto the road. We're not really under the road, but just on the windshield. And you see things like your, your. Miles per hour. And I guess they do there is that you don't have to look down at the dash. You'd just look ahead and you see those things, but it's not intrusive.

    And it's just, it's kind of a neat, it's kind of a neat gimmick kind of a neat demo, but yeah. Yeah. I've 

    Ben Mayo: [00:39:45] seen them, maybe those two they're there as a parallel, they're more like the Google glass experience, right. Where you get a little projection in the corner. Sure. And then the real deal was like, Yeah, it can actually just intellect it, superimpose over anything on the, on the screen, like interacting with the environment.

    Yeah. Yeah. The all the investments we're seeing them do in Apple maps, whether it's their own map day, a look around car accident, reporting all of that stuff that all feeds into the eventual car product, right? Like, I don't think there'd be half as interested in developing these Apple maps features if they didn't have hardware ambitions to actually ship a car in the future.

    Cause it's all gonna, it's all gonna go in there. And you're like, do they keep adding new features to CarPlay, which is great, but all that stuff's going to be rolled into like the actual Apple car eventually. Yep. 

    Apple TV+ news

    Zac Hall: [00:40:28] And on the topic of AR a couple of things for the Apple TV plus. So first I published my review of for all mankind this week.

    So I've seen, I've seen all of season two. I can't say much about it, except that I very much enjoyed it. And then you can read my view review, which has no spoilers but just general sentiments about the season. And the bottom line for me is that if you like season one, You might've seen the trailer for it and thought this is going to be vastly different, but the trailer is.

    You know, it's an action trailer and the show is, is a scifi drama. And so if you'd liked all the character development and interactions and stories and season one you get that same thing, but, but you know, in 10 years later in season two so I, I thought it was very enjoyable and I got to do some 

    Ben Mayo: [00:41:14] interviews with him.

    Can I ask you a question about that? You can if you're not there to answer, that's fine, but Is there. Cause the only thing I didn't like about forum kind season one is that quite a lot of it felt like a, a drama in the ground. Right. And it almost felt like it, it w it, you know, it didn't have to be related to space.

    It was just like family, I, which is fine. And intuitions the story on season two. I know you're saying it's like, you know, the actions in the trailer and then there's the thing, but is it still like family stuff or is it more like, you know, like space, cold wall bowels? Do you see what I mean? Like, even if it's just talking about it, I would, I would 

    Zac Hall: [00:41:45] say that there's as much like family drama on the ground again, but the further they go into the show, the deeper they're integrated within this is the space program.

    These people work in this space program and that the drama is because of the space program. Not just because they're. You know, a family of three or four. And, and, and there's, there's certainly more space because they're further along 

    Ben Mayo: [00:42:08] and they're yeah. The train has gone, like with guns walking across the moon, I want the moon conflict with the Russians life, big shoe out, you know, based on your description, it doesn't sound like that's quite, I would also say 

    Zac Hall: [00:42:18] that that is something I mentioned in the review.

    You know, the, the cold war was largely. Tension building up of what's going on, what could happen with nuclear weapons and that, that didn't and, and it's kind of this season is a bit like that too, where the tension builds up throughout the season. And then I also mentioned in the review that if there's one thing that I could critique about it, it's that it, it.

    Well, a couple of concerns is if you do a 10 year jump every season, are you really going to have the same cast every year? You know? And, and the, as you can see, probably from the trailer, I imagined the way that the character at Baldwin, his age, wasn't very it, it, it caught, it took you out of the scene.

    When he was, you know, had like fake gray hair and like way too dark of a tan I mean that's realistic, but also it's distracting. But so there's the concern of, you know, are, are the characters that we're following and care about now? Are they going to be in future seasons? No, we'll see. And then the other thing is because it is tension building up the season and then near the finale that there's, there's so much happening all at once.

    That it, you definitely get pay off, but it becomes hard to keep track of some of the things that's happening in your life. You know, it kinda, they, they, they don't spread it out across the show. It's, you know, they could have been like three or four arcs that they, that they had and that's the season. And instead it was cold war style buildup.

    It really models the cold war, you know, as, as history. But it's, it's nice. And then the first, this won't even be a spoiler that, you know, I can totally see this in the first You know, a few minutes in the first episode, there's a new drill. Montage is only in that first episode, but it's just very entertaining.

    If you're a fan of history to see all the things that happen differently, including John Lennon, narrowly escaping assassination. So it's, it's neat to see how many things are different. And of course, in the series a, in the season, Ronald Reagan's president, I think it was kind of an undertone, but in the first season, I think Ted Kennedy was president, which never happened.

    He ran, but it didn't wasn't elected as president. And now we're back to reality. Maybe the timing of the years are off, but then the events are what shifted, but it's. I also think it's it's, you know, you don't have to care about space stuff to really appreciate it. It's it's the drama all on its own.

    Now that this year, I know more about space stuff than I did a year ago when the first season was, was available. And I picked up on some of the Easter eggs, the trivia you know, there's, there's things like LC 39 C being a launch launch complex 39 C that's at the Kennedy space center.

    There is one now. As a 2015 for very small rockets. And I think it's about to open soon, but in the seventies, eighties, there was not a C launchpad. There's just a and B. And the idea and the show is that they just, they just mentioned it. That there's about to be a shuttle taking off, right? No, from LCD United sea.

    And it's to say that the shuttle program is so successful, that they have more launchpads at that one watch complex. And so if you're. Space fan and you know, the kind of the history there, those things will stand out as, as, as the trivia, you also see an eighties Tesla equivalent and, you know, things like that.

    It's entertaining. So it's 

    Ben Mayo: [00:45:27] it's it's Oh yeah. They can say, yeah, they released like a second, like feature at trader thing and there's like, Oh, cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

    Zac Hall: [00:45:34] In the range of like comical, like 

    Ben Mayo: [00:45:37] it's 60 

    Zac Hall: [00:45:37] miles. Yeah. But so, so yeah, if you liked season one, I think this is it's the same chef from the same creators.

    It's just the story continues and I liked that about it. So 

    Ben Mayo: [00:45:47] seq, we can talk about your, you know, you've got your interviews and they go away our thing. Let's just do our last out of the show.

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    For All Mankind Season 2 interviews

    Zac Hall: [00:47:30] Thanks LinkedIn. Yeah. So but I've seen, I also did interviews with some of the casts and creators from, from mankind. And it was really cool experience. It's the first time I've ever done something like that before. And I had mentioned that a previous episode, but now they're now they're published.

    And I would promote like the things inside of them, but I haven't actually listened back to them besides. Doing it a little bit of editing for the video. My plan was to listen through and transcribe and include as quotes in the, in the article. But then, because the video is hard, but it turns out editing videos, clips together and is easier than transcribing and listening back to half an hour of interviews.

    So 

    Ben Mayo: [00:48:05] better on the 

    Apple TV AR App

    Zac Hall: [00:48:06] YouTube channel. I think it, I think it worked out well. And then lastly on for all mankind for this week, at least because I guess next week will be a couple of days away from the, the season premiere. Apple has released their first augmented reality app connected to Apple TV plus.

    So this was reported as, as, as a remember, like the last August or so from Bloomberg that Apple was working on some kind of director's cut materials, some bonus materials for Apple TV plus content. And the first version of it is, is from mankind time capsule. And it is an iPhone and iPad app uses AR kit.

    There's even a couple of parts of it that require the LIDAR sensor on the iPad pro. 

    Ben Mayo: [00:48:46] And I've asked why they added the LIDAR scanner, Apple TV plus bonus con Oh, all that 

    Zac Hall: [00:48:51] time. And the iPhone 12 pro and I from told pro max and what the app is, is th the name kind of suggests what it is. It's time capsule.

    You're the character I can raise again. I, I, you know, this is the comeback. I wish it were so that this is the alternative. This is alternative timeline aspects 

    Ben Mayo: [00:49:09] of it, a couple of your iCloud account information. It's 

    Zac Hall: [00:49:12] like iCloud for your Mac. That would be amazing. No, it's, it's set in, it's set between the two decades.

    So I think problem in kind isn't one ended in the. Well, early seventies, I think seventies. Yeah. And this picks up in the early eighties. And so it's, it's, it's the character, Danny Stevens. Who's the son of Gordon Stevens and Tracy Stevens, both astronauts. It it's, it's some of his teenage years because he's, he's a character who's in season two.

    Sort of prominently versus being, you know, a kid in the background and the first season based on that decade job. And it's a, it's a cool AR demonstration. You're going through a kind of a box of trinkets and, and there's some storytelling involved. There's theme music. They have the same person who made the same composer and made the music for the show.

    Do the under music for the, for the app. There's some, some music like some Bob Dylan licensed to kind of put it in the, in the time that it said. And and the AR kit. So it looks cool and it works well. And there's some, some keys on the screen that you interact with where you like slice up in a cookie or, you know, open this envelope, that kind of thing.

    There's a little Mac. I was gonna say there's a little bit of an Apple cameo. This happens in the season as well, where the Apple two makes an appearance as like the computer of the day and the eighties. And that's normal, but what's not normal is that there's email and they call it D mail. For digital mail and they say it's a predecessor to email.

    But I, and that makes sense to me an email. Okay.

    yeah, these are four E. Yeah, exactly. And you know, that's what happens when this base program flourishes, I suppose, is that you get email before you get email, so, okay. They're gonna have next, 

    Ben Mayo: [00:50:54] the end phone. And doesn't come before I have to it. Doesn't no, that's not right. Why can't it do the alphabet? 

    Zac Hall: [00:51:04] J K L M H I.

    Yeah. Yeah. It's yeah. He nailed that joke. 

    Ben Mayo: [00:51:14] He fell bad. Yeah. 

    Zac Hall: [00:51:15] But anyway, the app is available. It's in the U S only I think, I think people were saying it's in the UK as well. Now it's going to be available in more markets. Sarah and they say, but it's interesting. I mean, they, they, they. And a little bit of a panel discussion with Ron Moore the Cirque creator.

    And he, he said something that was interesting, which has that the news cast that they use in the show and for all mankind, you know, they're obviously fictitious, you know, newsreels. But they, they, they write a bunch of those and that's one of his favorite things as a history buff. And they only get to use a fee because otherwise it would be a show about newscast.

    And this was a way to recycle some of those because there's a newscast in the app experience and he likes, he likes those. So this was a way to use that. I asked if there's gonna be a more of these. You know, for season two, as it's available or feature seasons. And the answer was really, we'll see how it goes, how the reception is with this one.

    So I guess if it's a diet, no, but if it's popular yes. And, and putting it in more markets in the U S will certainly help. And, and you don't have to have seen. And you have the seasons to really enjoy the app. Cause it's, it's a cool demonstration of AR 

    Ben Mayo: [00:52:23] anyway. Cool. Like even if throwing content exists, it's just called a little thing to play around with.

    Right. It's like an AR demo. It's like playing table tennis or whatever, like, like might come with this latest, cool bonus content. Right. But. If it's like, because he's, he says, it's not, it's not, it's not integrated into the actual TV app. It's just like, you have to go download it from the app store. Right.

    Zac Hall: [00:52:42] And I imagine at some point they'll promote it, but right now it's, you know, the, the press got a link to it. And then you read the press story and click the link to it. I was looking at before the show and without, without reading my story to find that I couldn't find it on the app store yet, maybe that changes as they promote it.

    There's 

    Ben Mayo: [00:52:58] these listed on the Apple's developer account, at least. So it's helpful, but like, What you need to have is like in the TD app, when you scroll down to the bit where it says bonus content, that needs to be as well as the little extra videos they have there and used to have a link to the AR experience, or when you like finish an episode.

    So you've watched, you know, you've watched your finished the season even, right. You finished season wonderful mankind, and then they should have, look, now you can enjoy this extra AR experience. It's like the special features on a DVD, right? Like it has to be integrated into thing you're watching like.

    Apple has done a bit of this already with various kinds of multimedia bonus content. They've done wallpapers, Ted lasso. They've done. I met your sticker packs for Dickinson and Snoopy in space, but. They tweet about once and then they go on forever. Like they're on the street. Th the sticker packs don't even listen to rap was do I break out?

    They're made by some third party company and they're just lists. So you're never, literally never going to find them. Right. At least the foreign mankind one is under Apple's account. So that's an improvement, but they need to be like actually integrated into the TV experience. And it doesn't need to be like, You know, annoying or just in the way, but maybe, you know, in the right format kind of season two on the little, like, if you've watched for mankind before it could give you a little notification, it's like, you know, get ready for season two, enjoy the AR experience at Loretta or you do, or afterwards you just finished an episode.

    It's like, okay, now you've enjoyed this. You could watch the next episode right now. Or why don't you try this on your phone? Or, you know, Or if you've finished a concern, you know, now go and share with your friends and tweet, tweet us and chose Susan, and you stick it back in and stuff like that. Doing the extra bonus content, things are good, even though even the wallpapers, like the headlights hope was a great idea, but that needs to be like in the TV app.

    So you can scroll down, see the wallpapers and then. No, from within the TV app set the wallpaper, right? Like not this thing where it's like, Oh, we're just going to upload these photos to Twitter in the right font file format. So not only do you have to like, see the tweet once when they ship it, then you have to say the image of your photo library, then set it as your wallpaper.

    Like, you know, you've got to do all the steps put together. And the thing that worries me when they say, Oh, we'll see how the reception isn't, if we do more or whatnot. But obviously if you're never going to promote the things or you never can actually have integrated the core experience, they're never going to be popular.

    Like you have to do it's chicken and egg. Right. You've got to do the, you got to do the work upfront and then integrate it all together. 

    Zac Hall: [00:55:02] Yeah, hello. A little bit concerning there. And I would have asked him, I would have asked how they planned it, promote it, but it was a second grader. It's not Apple.

    Yeah. What are they gonna say? And they were, they were happy that it's, you know, it's on Apple's platform with the ability to, but it's all users. So that's neat. And I actually haven't checked out. I haven't used the app yet because and, and the couple of hours I had access to the, to the story before it came available we, we were just on the demonstration of it, but not the, not able to use the app.

    So because it requires a LIDAR for at least one or two scenes in the app experience.  I'm looking forward to that because there aren't a lot of things that require LIDAR. If you just want a good example of the LIDAR sensor on my iPad or iPhone, you know this is, this is one sure way to do that.

    Apple TV+ purchases Dolly movie

    So I'm looking forward to trying that out. So one of them mentioned this week is a movie that Apple has purchased for Apple TV plus called Dolly. Have you seen this story? 

    Ben Mayo: [00:55:57] I've seen the story. Yeah. Yeah. I can't actually remember what happens, but they, they, they acquired the rights to a package of a movie called Dolly.

    And the, the concept of the movie is basically it's a robotic assistant that's standing trial in core. Yeah. And it's not about Dolly pollen because whenever she, I saw the headline, it going to be a Dolly Parton biography, 

    Zac Hall: [00:56:19] because they've had so much, they've got the Suzanne news. They've got the time to walk thing, but it's, it's not it's it's.

    I mean, again, I guess the name is like a doll, but it's a robot, you know, I don't play on that. I just, it sounds weird. It just, it stood out to me is I think 

    Ben Mayo: [00:56:35] different this coming in, I robot the a will Smith movie. So on along those lines, kind of a little. Yeah. 

    Zac Hall: [00:56:43] Is it that the, that the robot kill someone though, and then it's like, I didn't do it or something.

    This is, this is from our story. Dolly is a scifi drama inspired by inspired by Elizabeth Elizabeth, their story in which he robotic doll kills us owner. And shocks the world will ask you for a lawyer claiming she's not guilty. The film has elements of both classic courtroom drama, and Saifai so as weird, he may be, it'll 

    Ben Mayo: [00:57:07] be really interesting and different defending Jacob, but with robots.

    Sure. Yeah, 

    Zac Hall: [00:57:11] definitely. Yeah. It's definitely, 

    Ben Mayo: [00:57:13] I like courtroom dramas and I Saifai. So if they can do well. Cool. Yeah. 

    Apple TV 3 losing access to CBS All Access

    Zac Hall: [00:57:17] All right. We'll see how it goes. And then there's news we've we've been discussing the Apple TV three that their generation Apple TV, that Apple sold. For a hundred dollars for a few years, and then for $1,600 at the very end of his life for a few months, and we discussed the last week or so when this box lost access to YouTube, but it's going to be losing access to YouTube in March.

    And we'll be airplay only for, you know, probably the biggest app on the platform. And obviously I bought the Apple TV four and five, the HD and the 4k versions now. And they've been out for a while, a 

    Ben Mayo: [00:57:45] long time, but Rosa 

    Zac Hall: [00:57:47] so long in the tooth but the, the latest casualty on Apple TV. Three is CBS all access users of that box and no longer have access to that.

    And it will be airplay only. So that's one more for Apple TV, three with, with, I think your point is a good one in that there's no clear replacement for the a hundred dollars streaming box, or if you paid $70 for it, even that price you've got to look at you know, $35 streaming sticks as their replacement, Apple just doesn't have a replacement in this category yet.

    Ben Mayo: [00:58:16] Yeah. And, and when you know the Apple TV three still used by millions of people. When the little notifications pop up on your screen, saying YouTube is going to stop working in March CBS sites, you can start working in March. Do you think they are blaming YouTube? Do you think they're going to blame Apple?

    Like, so not only are they furious Apple for intentionally making their hardware obsolete or that's at least how they see it, right? Like technically it's a bit. Like this all stems from the fact that the third gen Apple, Apple TV never had an app store. Right? So all these, all these things that are stuck in the space that we, the foam, where of what they had back in the day.

    So they, when they do big, major new initiatives, they never get, they never, I like the 

    Zac Hall: [00:58:48] feature phone equivalent of a streaming box. 

    Ben Mayo: [00:58:50] Yeah, it's kind of like the old iPods, right? Like where they just kind of like they ship, this is what they have and then slowly the stuff doesn't work anymore. And that was a mistake of Apple.

    They should have done an app store on the opportunity way before 2015, when they did the original Apple TV. And they wouldn't be in this problem, but Hey, yeah. 

    Zac Hall: [00:59:04] Especially when they had like so many and you could only, you could show her hide, you couldn't like remove or add. 

    Ben Mayo: [00:59:10] Yeah. Like, and now. It's even worse because people are mad.

    They're like, Oh, you know, you'll make your making my box worse. And then they go and look at buying another one. They're like $150. This is ridiculous expensive. Cause they remember buying it for a hundred or 60 or whatever. I said, they go by Firestick very understandably. So it was just a bad situation.

    CBS All Access + Showtime bundle with Apple TV+ can no longer be accessed

    Zac Hall: [00:59:29] And also CBS all access related. A few months ago there was this really nice bundle that if you subscribe to Apple TV, plus. Then you can have, you can purchase a bundle from CBS that has CBS, Alexis, and Showtime for $10 a month. And so I, I think CBS all access is to knowledge month on his own.

    So you basically got Showtime at no extra cost, $10 as well. Yeah. So if you were an Apple TV plus Trevor, so it's pretty clever, you know, it makes you want to be an Apple TV plus subscriber, or if you already are, it's a award, it's a treat. And for me, I paid for an Apple TV plus. And CBS, CBS all access.

    So it was a no-brainer to do two opposite to the bundle because then I get time. I had no additional cost that bundle went away and it's not, it's not weird while there's this paramount plus coming to replace CBS, all access as their streaming service versus, you know, kind of a back how August CBS stuff, some of the new stuff.

    And then, you know, a few originals. So it's going to be kind of goes from being a channel to being a whole service of its own. And so it makes sense that the bundle goes away. It is funny though, that for me, I never got to actually pay for Apple TV plus because the free trial has been extended so many times that, you know, I do the bundle as you pay for Apple TV plus.

    And one of the two things, when you get the third one for free it's just been, I paid for $10 a month for CBS all access. And I got, you know, the other things just shut up there, so that's too bad. But you, you, your, your hunches that. We, we probably won't because CBS all access is it can be a channel, an Apple TV time.

    Internal, it can be a channel that you subscribed through Apple TV directly or through Apple TV. And you know, that, you know, deal a, a subscription through the other app or anything. And it plays directly in the app. It's a very good experience, but your hunch is that that's going to go away because paramount plus, because it's kind of Netflix level, it won't be a channel within Apple TV.

    It'll be its own. Sarah. 

    Ben Mayo: [01:01:22] Yeah, we saw this happen last year with HBO, right? Like HBO was like the flagship TV channel. And then when they launched HAPE spear max, they removed the channel and now no one new can actually sign up to HBO through Apple TV channels. You get the app integration, HBO, max. So it shows up in up next.

    But when you actually want to go and watch something, you then get your act out the TV app. And if you're going to the HB Mayo max experience, it's really annoying. Like you just won't be able to watch everything in one place. And. The TV that doesn't let you do that unless you're either watching an Apple, Apple content or channels content.

    Zac Hall: [01:01:54] My favorite thing about channels is on the map. There's not a lot of apps in me. If you have an M one Mac, you're not going to have a good HBO experience and you're not gonna have a CBS Alexis app at all Sanford time. So by doing Apple TV channels, it's in the TV app and you can save it. You can offline download it.

    And it's a good experience. Works with picture in picture is not. A web browser involved and that goes away whenever there's not, you can't pay it. Yeah. 

    Ben Mayo: [01:02:19] And it's a consistent UI that's with everything that you're using, right? Like it's not like, you know, a lot of different silos. But unfortunately, due to everyone wanting to like, you know, make their stand with their own services Apple TV channels are going away as fast as channels on their third generation.

    Apple TV are like, they're just dropping like flies, unfortunately. And this one was the result of a. A promotional deal between Apple, that they literally made a press release about. Right. Like I can't deal. And the it's going to last five months. Cause that was August and it's going to be going away. So it was kind of a stupid situation, but it's sad.

    Like, I don't know what they're going to do with this here, the app. Cause at the moment, like. It's like the place for everything put into one place, but it doesn't make you a good spirits. You don't get Netflix at all and all the channels are just disappearing. So they might as well just make it like Apple.

    Yeah. Yeah. The Apple, the actual Apple TV app, not like an aggregator thing 

    Zac Hall: [01:03:08] other than I think I agree with that. Fortunately there's that, but there are a bunch of small channels that are never going to go away. And, you know, the Nickelodeon thing is like that.

    MacBook Pro 2016/2017 battery replacement

    Oh, well last thing I wanna mention this week, before we go away is because it affects, I think your Mac could be affected as this MacBook pro battery replacement program for the 2016 and 2017 models.

    Is is yours effective because you've got a 

    Ben Mayo: [01:03:32] 2016. Is it 2016? My battery seems to be okay. Okay. Wow. Okay. And how it has been, because obviously it's now four years out to the battery jury depleted. So if you actually unplug it, you only lost her about an hour off battery on battery, but this, this is not exhibiting the problem that this replacement program describes, 

    Zac Hall: [01:03:53] which is that the battery can't charge past 1%.

    Is that right? That's probably a good thing. The better place to program, you know, when the M one Mac has as bad or wherever for years, just going to be like you only like five. 

    Ben Mayo: [01:04:04] Yeah. You already get five hours. This is a really funny bug though, because it's like, if you get affected by it, you have to send your.

    Laptop physically into Apple to get it fixed. But if you haven't been affected by it yet, Apple says you can just update to 11.2 0.1 and you won't be affected by it, which you 

    Zac Hall: [01:04:24] presumably 

    Ben Mayo: [01:04:25] did. I've done that. Yeah. So, so a software bug causes a permanent hardware fault. Breaks your battery. Yeah. And so if you, so if your battery was stuck at 1% and you update 11.2, but one, it would still be stuck at 1%.

    And that's why, so you have to have a, it's a hardware problem to cover up a software full. They don't say the reason for it. I have to assume there was some like weird logic error with the optimized battery charging stuff. Cause they introduced that on the map pretty recently. Right? Like it's gotta be something to do with that.

    And then. No, it's sent a way to message down to the battery. You control it. It doesn't let it charge past 1%. So then they have to go and like, they don't specify exactly what's wrong with it. It just says, you know, there's an experience with the battery, not charging. I shamed me when they take it into app and get it fixed.

    They're probably not replacing the battery. They're probably replacing like, you know, the little microcontroller that like cha you know, he's in charge of powering. The battery will charge you the battery. Right. That'd be my guess. But the 

    Zac Hall: [01:05:16] battery would be nice though. Yeah. And that's four year old machine.

    Ben Mayo: [01:05:20] Yeah. I mean, this dish, don't worry. I've had petty replacement programs. I have alleged before, or was allegeable for like the butterfly keyboard situation, which is now, cause that was, that was, that was four years. Wasn't it? They gave you four years to get that fixed. So I'm now filming outside the window of that.

    Zac Hall: [01:05:35] Th when they say don't buy for a generation products, like the 2016 pro. Is that example. Yeah. 

    Ben Mayo: [01:05:43] It's like this batch, like this 1% battery charge. It's like the smallest footnote on the list of problems with the 2016 mobile Crow. Yeah. 

    Zac Hall: [01:05:52] All right. Nice. Thanks everyone. Who tuned in live to listen on youtube.com/nfl back and on Facebook as well.

    And if you enjoy the show and you don't subscribe already, we, we are well podcasts, overcast, Spotify, Google podcasts, Amy, we appreciate you subscribing and joining us back every week. We, we bright guys live on Thursdays at 4:00 PM Eastern time. And then you can 

    Ben Mayo: [01:06:16] follow us in the Apple podcast app.

    Now that's 

    Zac Hall: [01:06:19] a, that's a new feature that's coming in the beta version. And now it's out of beta is subscribed, becomes follow. Which gives you room to subscribe monetarily in a different way, or it's just, maybe it's just differently way of doing it. But anyway if you have any feedback for the show, you can email both of us together at happy hour at podcast at night.

    What is it now? What's the email. 

    Ben Mayo: [01:06:43] I just need just happy 

    Zac Hall: [01:06:45] probably. Yeah. That's that's it we'll definitely, definitely work. It used to be different. Madigan. 

    Ben Mayo: [01:06:53] I know I 

    Zac Hall: [01:06:53] need a lunch or something and you can follow me on Twitter. And Instagram at apollozac Benjamin. You're on Twitter at bzamayo. And we will be back next week.

    Bye everybody. 

    Ben Mayo: [01:07:05] Bye-bye.

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    watchOS 7.3 now available with new Unity watch faces, ECG in more countries, more

    Apple officially launches new ‘Time to Walk’ feature for Apple Watch and Fitness+

    Apple unveils limited-edition Apple Watch Series 6 and more for Black History Month

    Apple releases HomePod Software Version 14.4 with new Handoff experience, more

    macOS Big Sur 11.2 RC now available with Bluetooth improvements, M1 Mac fixes, more

    macOS Big Sur 11.2 RC 2 now available as a public release nears

    Apple engineering SVP Dan Riccio transitioning to oversee ‘new project,’ John Ternus takes lead of hardware team

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    Jan 28, 2021
    Apple’s first AR device, iPhone 13 notch, Unity Apple Watch face
    4467

    9to5Mac's Benjamin Mayo and Zac Hall discuss what came out at CES this week, Samsung beatS Apple to AirTags, Apple's first AR device, 2021 iPhone rumors, and more on this week's episode.

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    Jan 22, 2021
    MagSafe and more coming in 2021 MacBook Pro, redesigned iMac and Apple external display rumors
    3618

    9to5Mac's Benjamin Mayo and Zac Hall unpack the latest 2021 rumors from Ming-Chi Kuo and Bloomberg including redesigned iMac, MacBook Pro, and Apple display hardware.

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    Bloomberg: Apple testing in-screen Touch ID for 2021 iPhone, AirTags coming this year

    Bloomberg: Apple testing in-screen Touch ID for 2021 iPhone, AirTags coming this year

    Apple again extends Apple TV+ free trials, subscribers now get free access until July 2021

    Bloomberg: New iMac with Pro Display XDR design coming this year, cheaper external display also planned

    Apple begins blocking M1 Mac users from side loading iPhone and iPad applications

    Comment: Can the 2021 MacBook Pro reports be right?

    Bloomberg: 2021 MacBook Pro to charge faster via MagSafe, ‘redesigned MacBook Air’ also planned

    Kuo details 2021 MacBook Pro: new design with squared-off sides, MagSafe connector and IO return, Touch Bar removed

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    Jan 16, 2021
    Apple Car shifts to reverse, 2021 product rumors, Fitness+ audio workouts
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    Jan 08, 2021
    Apple’s 2020 in review
    6205

    9to5Mac's Benjamin Mayo and Zac Hall discuss the latest with 5G UWB in the wild, iOS 14 Shortcut triggers, and Apple's 2020 in product releases and service updates.

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    Dec 31, 2020
    AirPods Max review, Apple TV+ anniversary
    5230

    9to5Mac's Benjamin Mayo and Zac Hall discuss changes in watchOS 7.2, new features in HomeKit, HomePod audio with the Apple TV, the first anniversary of AppleTV+, and Zac's impressions of the AirPod Max.

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    Dec 26, 2020
    Privacy nutrition labels, Apple Fitness+ launch experience
    4460

    9to5Mac's Benjamin Mayo and Zac Hall discuss Stadia for iOS, App Store privacy labels, Facebook's reaction to new tracking permissions, Apple TV+ in iOS 14.3, Tim Cook rejecting a series on Gawker after Apple bought it, and the launch of Apple Fitness+.

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    Dec 18, 2020
    MagSafe Duo experience, iOS 14.3, AirPods Max announced
    5078

    9to5Mac's Benjamin Mayo and Zac Hall discuss the launch of Apple's new MagSafe Duo charger, the upcoming launch of Apple Fitness+, new features in iOS 14.3, high-end Apple silicon Mac expectations, and the surprise debut of Apple AirPods Max.

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    Dec 12, 2020
    MagSafe Duo released, best apps of the year, Apple product mystery
    3678

    Benjamin Mayo and Zac Hall discuss how Apple's new leather sleeve for iPhone 12 works, MagSafe Duo launching, Apple Music Replay versus Spotify Wrapped, MacBook Pro and MacBook Air rumors for 2021, Apple's apps of the year choices, Apple Fitness+ launching soon, and a mystery Apple product possibly launching on December 8.

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    Dec 05, 2020
    macOS Big Sur review, redesigned MacBooks, Apple Black Friday
    4643

    This week Benjamin Mayo and Zac Hall discuss the latest Ming-Chi Kuo rumors of redesigned MacBooks and Apple Watches, our time spent with macOS Big Sur so far, Apple's plans for Black Friday, and much more.

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    Nov 26, 2020
    HomePod mini and M1 Mac hands-on
    5132

    Benjamin and Zac discuss the first few days with the all-new HomePod mini and M1 Macs, macOS Big Sur experience, and much more.

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    Nov 20, 2020
    Apple M1 Mac event impressions
    6439

    Benjamin and Zac discuss Apple's major M1 chip event where it unveiled the first Macs to switch from Intel processors to Apple Silicon.

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    iPhone 12 mini reviews: A small and powerful phone, but battery life is questionable

    iPhone 12 Pro Max reviews: Major camera upgrades, 6.7-inch display could be too big for some users

    HomePod mini reviews: Impressive sound quality and design for users in the Apple ecosystem

    Apple unveils M1, it's first system-on-a-chip for Mac computers

    Apple unveils all-new MacBook Air powered by Apple Silicon M1 chip

    Apple announces new Mac mini featuring Apple M1 chip, cheaper $699 price

    Apple announces 13-inch MacBook Pro with faster performance and longer battery thanks to M1 chip

    MacBook Pro and Mac mini still available with Intel chips for now

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    Nov 14, 2020
    Apple Silicon Mac event expectations
    4476

    Zac Hall and Benjamin Mayo discuss iOS 14.2, new HomePod features, what to expect from Apple's November 10 event, and much more.

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    Nov 07, 2020
    Apple One premiers, ARM Macs near, iPhone 12 reverse charging
    5508

    Zac Hall and Benjamin Mayo talk Apple One bundle, AAPL earnings, Apple Silicon Macs, iPhone 12 features, and much more.

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    Oct 30, 2020
    iPhone 12 Pro and iPad Air 4 hands-on
    4630

    Zac Hall and Benjamin Mayo discuss iPhone 12 / iPhone 12 Pro and iPad Air 4 day one launch, Apple TV on PlayStation, Apple Music TV, HomePod OS 14.1, and much more.

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    Oct 23, 2020
    iPhone 12, iPhone 12 Pro and HomePod mini impressions
    8504

    Zac Hall and Benjamin Mayo unpack Apple's iPhone 12 and HomePod mini event.

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    Oct 17, 2020
    Last minute iPhone 12 leaks and October Apple event expectations
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    Zac Hall and Benjamin Mayo preview Apple's upcoming iPhone 12 event on October 13.

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    Oct 10, 2020
    9to5Mac Happy Hour 297: AirPods Spatial Audio, iOS 14.2 emoji, Apple TV on Xbox
    4179

    Zac Hall and Benjamin Mayo talk AirPods and Spatial Audio in iOS 14, Apple Maps expansion in the UK, the latest updates to iOS 14.2 beta, Roku gaining AirPlay 2 and the Apple TV app, TV+ coming to consoles, and much more.

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    Oct 02, 2020
    iOS 14 mania, Apple Watch Series 6 experience, iPhone 12 naming
    5565

    Benjamin and Zac discuss the launch of iOS 14, best features, Home screen customization trends, new features in iOS 14.2 beta, Zac's experience with the all-new Apple Watch Series 6, and new rumors about a 'mini' iPhone 12.

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    Sep 26, 2020
    Apple Watch Series 6 & SE, iPad 8 and iPad Air 4 event
    7015

    Zac and Benjamin unpack everything announced at Apple's September 15 event where Apple Watch Series 6 and SE were revealed, iPad 8 and iPad Air 4 debuted, and Apple One bundle and Fitness+ premiered. Tune in at 4:30 p.m. ET/1:30 p.m. PT:

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    Everything Apple announced during its September event: Apple Watch Series 6, new iPad Air, and more

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    Sep 17, 2020
    Apple Watch Series 6 and iPad event expectations
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    Apple's September event is official, but iPhones aren't on the agenda this month. Zac and Benjamin discuss what we can expect from iPads to Apple Watches, when we'll see iPhone 12, and much more. Tune in at 4 p.m. ET/1 p.m. PT:

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    The lantern on the bay: Apple Marina Bay Sands illuminates Singapore

    Apple rolling out custom-designed ‘Apple Face Mask’ to corporate and retail employees

    Peloton launches new ‘Bike+’ exercise bike featuring Apple Watch GymKit support

    ‘Apple One’ subscription bundle confirmed by Apple Music for Android ahead of Sept. 15 event

    Apple officially announces Apple Watch and iPad virtual event for September 15

    Bloomberg: Apple September event focused on iPad and Apple Watch, iPhone 12 won’t be announced until October

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    Sep 10, 2020
    iOS 13.7 released, two new Apple Watch models, Apple TV+ AR
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    Join Zac Hall and Benjamin Mayo from 9to5Mac to discuss this week's top Apple and technology stories. Tune in at 4 p.m. ET/1 p.m. PT:

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    Sep 03, 2020
    iPad Air 4 design, Apple Watch GymKit, iPhone 12 rumors
    4305

    There's a new iPad Air 4 on the way, Apple Watch GymKit is real, and Benjamin and Zac unpack the week in iPhone 12 and iPad Air 4 rumors. Tune in at 4 p.m. ET/1 p.m. PT:

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    Aug 27, 2020
    Apple Music Radio rebrand, iOS 14 beta 5 changes, Epic’s App Store fight continues
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    Aug 21, 2020
    Fortnite provokes App Store fight and ‘Apple One’ services bundle
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    This week on 9to5Mac Happy Hour, Benjamin Mayo and Zac Hall unpack the rumored Apple One bundle, the App Store removing the popular Fortnite game from Epic, and much more.

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    Aug 13, 2020
    9to5Mac Happy Hour 289: Schiller retires, iMac design refuses to retire, iPhone 12 parts leak
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    This week on 9to5Mac Happy Hour, Benjamin Mayo and Zac Hall make sense of Phil Schiller's "Fellow" retirement, the new nano-texture (option) iMac, this week in iPhone 12 part leaks, and much more. Sponsored by Space Time — check out the 9to5 Network's new space news podcast!

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    Aug 06, 2020
    Face ID on Mac, Apple confirms iPhone 12 delays, antitrust hearing
    3682

    Apple has a unified gift card system, Face ID Mac evidence piles up, Digitimes backs Apple Watch Series 6 reporting, MacBook Air refresh clues, Apple's informative antitrust hearing, iPhone 12 release clues in Apple earnings, and much more.

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    Aug 01, 2020
    iOS 14 beta 3 changes, iPhone 12 specs, iOS apps on the Mac
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    This week on 9to5Mac Happy Hour, Benjamin Mayo and Zac Hall talk iPhone 12, iOS 14, ARM Mac apps, and much more. Sponsored by LinkedIn — check out our offer to support the podcast! 

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    Jul 23, 2020
    iOS 14 privacy, iOS 13.6 released, the state of the Apple Watch
    4504

    This week Benjamin Mayo and Zac Hall unpack privacy features in iOS 14, Apple's first tweet, iPhone 12 and the braided USB-C cable, the latest Apple Silicon Mac expectations, iOS 13.6, and much more.

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    Jul 17, 2020
    iOS 14 and macOS Big Sur impressions
    4676

    This week Zac and Benjamin discuss the iOS 14 public beta, two weeks using macOS Big Sur and the latest OS updates, favorite under-the-radar features so far, and much more.

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    Jul 10, 2020
    iPhone 12 charger rumors, Force Touch on watchOS 7, shifting Arcade strategy
    4102

    This week Benjamin and Zac discuss Apple’s Developer Transition Kit ARM Mac mini, rumors that iPhone 12 won’t include a charger in the box, Apple Watch losing Force Touch in watchOS 7, Apple Arcade’s shifting game strategy, and new Apple Card features.

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    Jul 03, 2020
    WWDC 2020 impressions: iOS 14, watchOS 7, macOS Big Sur and tvOS 14
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    This week Benjamin and Zac discuss Apple’s major WWDC 2020 keynote, including what’s new in iOS 14, iPadOS 14, watchOS 7, macOS Big Sur, and tvOS 14.

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    Jun 25, 2020
    WWDC Preview: iOS 14, watchOS 7, and more
    4344

    This week Zac and Benjamin preview WWDC 2020, iOS 14, and much more.

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    Jun 18, 2020
    iMac redesign, ARM Mac transition, WWDC plans
    4415

    This week Zac and Benjamin are joined by Mark Gurman to unpack the long-running rumors that Apple will switch from Intel to custom-designed chips in Macs, a new rumor that Apple has a redesigned iMac coming at WWDC, new changes in iOS 13.6 beta, Apple's plans for WWDC week, and much more.

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    Jun 12, 2020
    Rumored iPad upgrades, Apple News+ Audio hands on, more iOS 14 leaks
    3668

    This week Zac and Benjamin take 9to5Mac Happy Hour live on video for the first time to discuss the upcoming Apple News+ Audio feature, evidence of an Apple bundle in code, iPad Pro and iPad Air 4 rumors, and much more.

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    Jun 04, 2020
    Apple Store at the curb, macOS 10.15.5, Apple TV+ expansions
    5297

    This week Zac and Benjamin discuss the state of Apple Stores during the global pandemic, updates to Apple's Exposure Notifications API, macOS 10.15.5 and new battery features, new details about Messages for Mac on macOS 10.16, loads of Apple TV+ developments, and much more.

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    May 29, 2020
    iOS 13.5 release, iPhone 12 EarPods, Apple TV+ back catalog
    5105

    Benjamin and Zac unpack the release of iOS 13.5 and the Apple/Google Exposure Notification API app adoption, Apple Watch 2020 Pride bands and faces, Ming-Chi Kuo's prediction that iPhone 12 won't include EarPods in the box, Apple TV+ potentially buying a back catalog of content, a new Tom Hanks film coming to the service, and much more.

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    00:00:00 — iOS 13.5 now available

    00:23:50 — Apple Watch 2020 Pride faces and bands

    00:34:28 — iPhone 12 EarPods

    00:48:15 — Apple TV+ back catalog

    01:04:25 — Apple Podcast originals

    01:09:00 — Yobi B3 HomeKit doorbell

    01:18:30 — Apple Watch Activity Challenge

    01:21:35 — Wrap up

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    May 22, 2020
    AirPods Studio, new iPads rumored and iPhone 12 Pro exclusive features
    5049

    Apple closes deal to buy NextVR, Logic Pro X gains Live Loops, exclusive new details on AirPods Studio, Kuo on iPad size updates, iPhone 12 features, and much more.

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    00:00:00 — NextVR deal closes

    00:08:56 — WWDC TV

    00:12:26 — Magic Keyboard battery drain

    00:24:17 — Logic Pro X

    00:28:31 — AirPods Studio

    00:38:49 — Powerbeats Pro 2020

    00:45:03 — New iPad sizes, Apple Glasses

    00:56:46 — Apple News audio

    01:09:22 — iPhone 12 ProMotion, 3x zoom

    01:19:22 — SpaceExplored.com Space Pod teaser

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    May 15, 2020
    iOS 13.5 beta 4, the ’new’ 13-inch MacBook Pro, making a HomeKit house
    6728

    Benjamin explains a recent Facebook bug, iOS 13.5 beta 4 brings changes to Exposure Notification, Apple unveils WWDC 2020 dates, 13-inch MacBook Pro switches to Magic Keyboard, Zac recaps recent HomeKit updates, Apple TV+ reaches half a year, and much more.

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    00:12:48 — iOS 13.5

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    01:31:22 — Apple TV+

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    May 08, 2020
    iOS 13.5 beta addresses COVID-19, AirPods rumors, HomePod mini
    4030

    iOS 13.5 arrives in beta, Apple's Exposure Notification API is ready to combat COVID-19 risks, Face ID and Group FaceTime are making changes, Zac has more thoughts on the iPad Pro Magic Keyboard, iPhone SE has a missing feature, Ming-Chi Kuo predicts new AirPods, Apple announces earnings results, and much more.

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    00:00:00 — iOS 13.5

    00:09:49 — Face ID and masks

    00:15:21 — Group FaceTime zooming

    00:20:51 — Magic Keyboard followup

    00:31:32 — iPhone SE followup

    00:36:05 — AirPods Pro Lite

    00:41:47 — HomePod Lite

    00:47:01 — AirTags Expensive

    00:52:59 — AAPL Earnings

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    May 01, 2020
    Magic Keyboard for iPad, Apple Music on Samsung TVs, 23-inch iMac
    5032

    Zac has hands-on impressions with the Magic Keyboard for iPad, Benjamin has an update on the Logitech trackpad, Apple has a new Mac battery feature, and there's a 23-inch iMac update rumored.

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    Apr 24, 2020
    iPhone SE launch, magnetic headphones rumors, contact tracing explained
    4563

    Apple releases its Magic Keyboard for iPad Pro, Logitech starts selling its own, Mac Pro feet and wheels are rolling off the shelves, Apple has a brand new iPhone SE available to order, Bloomberg reports new details about Apple's high-end, over-ear headphones, and we explain how Apple's contact tracing works.

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    00:00:00 — Apple Magic Keyboard for iPad Pro

    00:04:52 — Logitech Trackpad Keyboard Case

    00:14:57 — Mac Pro feet and wheels

    00:18:49 — AirPods Pro tips

    00:19:51 — iPhone SE announcement

    00:36:05 — More on iPhone SE

    00:56:29 — Magnetic headphones

    00:59:02 — Contact tracing explained

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    Apr 17, 2020
    iPad Pro LiDAR, iOS 14 wallpapers and widgets, App Store clips
    4336

    Benjamin and Zac dive into LiDAR on the new iPad Pro, Magic Keyboard weight and availability, a new ARKit app called Pocket Rocket, iPad Pro's new hardware disconnect feature, new iOS 14 wallpaper and widget features, a new app clips feature, Watchsmith for Apple Watch, the new Quibi video app, and what's happening with HBO on Apple TV 3.

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    00:00:00 — iPad Pro LiDAR

    00:23:17 — iOS 14 wallpapers and widgets

    00:37:42 — App 'Clips'

    00:48:23 — Watchsmith for Apple Watch

    00:58:22 — What's Quibi?

    01:05:49 — HBO on Apple TV 3

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    Apr 10, 2020
    Amazon skirts App Store rules, Apple buys Dark Sky, iPhone 9 is iPhone SE
    6200

    Benjamin and Zac unpack the week of news including more features coming to iOS 14 and watchOS 7, Siri for Spotify on Apple Watch, Apple's COVID-19 app, the Amazon Prime Video App Store situation, new AirTag leaks, Apple buying Dark Sky, breaking 2020 iPhone SE news, and much more.

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    00:00:00 — Anniversary!

    00:02:30 — iOS 14 iCloud Keychain

    00:07:15 — Apple Watch activity tracking for kids

    00:11:35 — Apple's Logic leak

    00:13:55 — Wireless CarPlay Adapter

    00:19:22 — Spotify for Siri on Apple Watch

    00:20:31 — Messenger for Mac

    00:24:21 — COVID-19 app

    00:29:56 — Amazon

    00:53:39 — iPhone SE 2020

    00:58:06 — AirTag

    01:35:58 — Apple Watch Touch ID

    01:39:47 — iOS 13.4.5 beta

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    Apr 03, 2020
    iPhone 9 Plus, Apple CarKey, iPadOS 13.4
    4810

    Benjamin and Zac discuss Apple's first theatrical release film, iPhone 9 and iPhone 12 rumors, the latest 9to5Mac exclusives from iOS 14, iOS 13.4, and more.

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    00:00:00 — The Banker

    00:09:23 — iPhone 9 Plus

    00:22:40 — iPhone 12 camera

    00:31:15 — CarPlay wallpapers

    00:38:52 — New Find My features

    00:46:20 — CarKey and BMW

    00:55:10 — App Store and game services

    01:01:47 — iPadOS 13.4

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    Mar 27, 2020
    2020 MacBook Air, iPad Pro with trackpad, iOS 13.4
    4544

    Benjamin and Zac unpack new releases from Apple including a cheaper and improved MacBook Air, Mac mini storage upgrades, the new 2020 iPad Pro model, iOS 13.4 and trackpad support coming to iPad, the new Magic Keyboard coming in May, Beats Powerbeats debut, and more.

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    Mar 20, 2020
    iOS 14 and watchOS 7 leaks, iPad Pro cursor, Apple Watch Series 6 features
    6959

    Benjamin and Zac have a week of 9to5Mac exclusives to discuss including loads of iOS 14, watchOS 7, and Apple Watch Series 6 details, new details about iPad cursor support, and much more.

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    00:00:00 — Apple Watch Series 6 blood oxygen saturation

    00:11:54 — AirPods Studio icon

    00:24:32 — watchOS 7 SchoolTime

    00:47:57 — iPadOS cursor details

    01:01:38 — AR in iOS 14

    01:10:50 — Hardware clues

    01:15:48 — Apple TV remote???

    01:31:02 — HomeKit in iOS 14

    01:40:55 — Accessibility in iOS 14

    01:49:52 — watchOS 7 "International"

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    Mar 13, 2020
    14-inch MacBook Pro, mini LED displays, WWDC fate
    4107

    App Store has new review guidelines, Ming-Chi Kuo predicts new iMac Pro and 14.1-inch MacBook Pro, @coiiiiiiiin predicts new iMac and Mac mini, Apple has to deal with COVID-19 and SXSW, and Apple's first theatrical release film is coming Friday.

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    00:00:00 — Zac's AirPods Pro journey

    00:11:26 — App Store guidelines

    00:22:10 — 14" MacBook Pro

    00:34:54 — CoinX on iMac, Mac mini, iPad

    00:50:02 — SXSW, WWDC, COVID-19

    01:02:36 — Apple TV+ premiers

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    Mar 05, 2020
    iPad Pro Smart Keyboard Trackpad, ARM Macs, HomeKit routers
    6139

    Benjamin and Zac discuss the latest report that Apple is planning to release an iPad Pro Smart Keyboard with a trackpad, new Powerbeats4 leaks, the latest Ming-Chi Kuo prediction on Macs dropping Intel, HomeKit routers, and much more.

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    Feb 28, 2020
    Apple Music updates, iPhone 9 rumors, iOS 14 default apps
    3590

    Apple Music gains new features, coronavirus forces Apple to adjust earnings guidance (again), new iPhone SE and iPad Pro rumors continue, and Apple may finaly be considering third-party default apps.

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    Feb 21, 2020
    Swift Playgrounds on Mac, state of Catalyst, 5G iPhone rumors
    4378

    Apple Swift Playgrounds iPad app comes to the Mac, we talk about the ongoing state of Mac Catalyst apps, cheap iPhone and 5G iPhone rumors, and more.

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    Feb 14, 2020
    iOS 13.4 beta changes, unified App Store, Apple TV rumors
    5002

    Apple prepares to sponsor its first presidential debate, iOS 13.4 beta packs lots of changes, 9to5Mac discovers a new CarKey feature coming in the future, Apple takes steps toward unifying the iOS and Mac App Store, and more Apple TV rumors emerge.

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    Feb 07, 2020
    What’s new in iOS 13.3.1, Fantastical 3 and Filmic DoubleTake, Spring Apple Event rumors
    4087

    Benjamin and Zac discuss what's new in iOS 13.3.1 and other new software updates, Apple Maps 2.0 coming to Europe, new Fantastical and Filmic DoubleTake apps, the current state of HomeKit routers, and Apple hardware rumors including a new 13-inch MacBook Pro, iPad Pro, backlit iPad Pro Smart Keyboard, and possibly a spinoff of AirPower.

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    Jan 31, 2020
    An interview with Astronaut Reisman, ‘For All Mankind’ consultant for Apple TV+
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    Special guest Astronaut Garrett Reisman joins Zac and Benjamin to discuss his experience with 'For All Mankind' on Apple TV+. Dr. Reisman joined NASA in 1998, traveled to space on the Space Shuttle Endeavour in 2008 and Space Shuttle Atlantis in 2010, and performed three spacewalks from the International Space Station.

    Dr. Reisman is also a Professor of Astronautical Engineering at the University of Southern California, motivational speaker, Senior Advisor for SpaceX, technical consultant for the film Ad Astra, and technical advisor for the series 'For All Mankind' on Apple TV+.

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    Jan 24, 2020
    Apple security and the FBI, ‘Pro Mode’ for Macs
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    This week Benjamin and Zac discuss the iPhone XS Smart Battery Case repair program, the new Sensei app for Mac, Apple's AI startup acquisition, the new Apple security battle with the FBI, racked mounted Mac Pro launch, a new 'Pro Mode' coming to Macs, and the latest Apple TV+ developments.

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    Jan 17, 2020
    Apple at CES 2019, Services era, iPhone Night mode contest
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    Apple wins CES with AirPods emoji, Global Privacy Senior Director Jane Horvath talks privacy on behalf of Apple, PopSocket now works with wireless charging, HomeKit advances in 2020, Apple marks a new era of Services, iPhone 11 has a new Night mode photo contest this month, and much more.

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    Jan 10, 2020
    Red Apple Watch, Apple TV+ taps HBO chief, iPhone 12 rumors
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    Benjamin and Zac kick off 2020 with rumors about a Product (RED) Apple Watch Series 5, new perks for Apple Store staff, the first Made for iPhone external flash, HBO's former chief signing an exclusive deal with Apple TV+, Apple's surprise agreement with Imagination Technologies, and the latest iPad Pro and iPhone 12 rumors.

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    Jan 03, 2020
    Our first product memories and Apple's decade in review
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    Christmas week has arrived and so has the end of the decade. Benjamin and Zac walk down memory lane to recall their first Apple products including iPhone and Mac. The duo also explores the biggest Apple stories of the decade from each decade.

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    Dec 23, 2019
    HomeKit and ‘Connected Home’, Apple Podcasts on Echo, TV+ in 2020
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    This week Benjamin and Zac discuss a wide range of topics including Apple Podcasts, Arcade, News, and more service news, the latest iOS beta software updates, more Mac Pro and Apple Pro Display XDR details, and much more.

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    Dec 19, 2019
    Apple TV remotes, Mac Pro released, and the latest OS updates
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    Benjamin and Zac reflect on the Apple TV Siri remote, the first round of award nominations for TV+, what's new in iOS 13.3 and other software updates, the launch of the 2019 Mac Pro, and much more.

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    Dec 13, 2019
    Apple award season, 16-inch MacBook Pro experience, no Lightning port iPhone future
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    iPhone 11 has a privacy concern, Ming-Chi Kuo forecasts a whole new wave of iPhone releases with major changes, Zac takes the Apple Watch Series 5's always-on display for a half marathon, Zac and Benjamin talk more about the 16-inch MacBook Pro, and much more.

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