Everyone is talking about AI. But who is actually worth listening to, and not just pushing their own agenda? Carl is a veteran software engineer who has spent decades actually building systems. Casey is an analytic philosopher with ten years of ontology development. Neither has a book to sell or is funded by an AI thinktank. Together, they do something rare: think carefully and talk honestly about what AI is, what it can (and can’t) do, and how we should live in a world increasingly shaped by AI.