A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica

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Hosts Claire Mazur and Erica Cerulo, who you might know as the co-founders of the website Of a Kind (RIP!) or the co-authors of the book Work Wife, are all about discovery and enthusiasm. We've heard this weekly podcast described as a 'unique mix of urgent discussions of non-urgent things and thoughtful discussions of important, and often otherwise ignored, things,' and we're very much on board with that take.

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The Consumption-Wary Stylist Lakyn Carlton’s Thingies and Scooped-Out Foodstuffs
36:40

We’re giving you the styling and Thingies scoop with our special guest Lakyn Carlton! Bonus scoop: the pros and cons of scooped-out foods.

 

Introducing the scooped-out pizza, ℅ Minnesota’s Hazelwood Food & Drink. And leave it to the New York Post to provide scooped-out bagel commentary in 2010 and 2016.

 

Get more Lakyn via her fantastic newsletter True Style and her virtual and in-person styling sessions.

 

Lakyn’s Thingies include Muddy Paw Coffee in L.A. for a dog-friendly coffee experience (and proximity to one of her go-to vintage shops, The Curatorial Department), her Bown of London robe (additional robe content: ones from Block Shop and Ulysses and the romance novel Georgie, All Along by Kate Clayborn), and a custom doormat from TheDoormatory on Etsy.

 

Share your take on pizza with salad and/or personal style at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq—or join our Geneva! Try out a Secret Menu membership for more recommendations.

 

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Jan 30, 2023
CRINGE
39:41

Buckle in, listeners, because we’re diving head-first down the rabbit hole of *cringe*. What does cringe look like these days? How do we embrace it—the good kind? How do cut everyone (ourselves included) some cringe slack?

 

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Today’s prompt: Nell Diamond’s repost of a tweet from @isabelunraveled. (For more on Nell, founder of Hill House Home, dip into these profiles from New York Magazine and Harper’s Bazaar.)

 

The Justin Long post. Discuss!

 

For some cringe backstory: Kaitlyn Tiffany’s story “How Did We Get So ‘Cringe’?” for The Atlantic.

 

We had to revisit Elizabeth Gilbert’s Big Magicbecause avoiding cringe and chasing perfectionism are related…no? See also: Ninth Street Women by Mary Gabriel, David Brandon Geeting’s installment of the Perfectly Imperfect newsletter, and the edition of Kaelen Haworth’s Kael Mail newsletter about ins but no outs

 

Check out Her Country by Marissa R. Moss. Among the themes: how Kacey Musgraves, Maren Morris, and Mickey Guyton gave up on wanting people to like them to find success.  

 

On finding affection for your younger self: this Anne Helen Petersen newsletter, Jonah Hill’s doc Stutz, the podcast Mortified, Justin Cooley on his role in Kimberly Akimbo, and Mo Willems in the NYT.

 

A definition of post-cringe; an example of post-cringe: Kaitlin Phillips.

 

How are you embracing cringe? Who’s your cringe-spiration? We need your thoughts at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq—or join our Geneva! For a whole lot more recommendations, try out a Secret Menu membership.

 

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Jan 23, 2023
Winter Beach Chic, Pegboards, and Some Movie-ish Thoughts
40:42

We are rejuvenated-ish from our holiday breaks and are ready to fill you in on winter-wedding dress codes, the pegboard discourse, sexy high school, and, ope!, more Midwest updates.

 

Our discussion about wedding dress codes brings us back to Kayleen Schaefer’s story for The Cut “The Bride and Groom Formally Request That You Dress Up.” And for actual winter beach dressing, see this 2017 Vogue cover and Harrison Ford’s shorts with sweaters

 

We loved this 2019 NYT story about how brand names become generic.   

 

Re: pegboards, Julia Child’s is obv the ultimate, but for mini ones, look to Quark and Little Anana

 

If you’re also disillusioned by movie trailers, read this Vox story by Alissa Wilkinson. (Also, we endorse She Said the movie…but She Said the book more.)

 

Next time you're in the Midwest, get kringle from O&H Danish Bakery or a *kringle single* from Racine Danish Kringles.

 

What foods are you sneaking into the movies? Let us know 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq—or join our Geneva! And try out a Secret Menu membership for a whole lot more recommendations.

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Jan 16, 2023
Stove Disrupters, Photo Explainers, and TikTok MD
36:26

This week’s conversation knows no bounds! We’ve got key limes, medical answers via TikTok, makeup-buying IRL, a photo-minded Instagram follow, induction stoves, and a solution to the silicone storage bags issue (because there is one).

 

Have you made Alison Roman’s take on key lime pie? It involves yogurt/sour cream, a win if you ask us. Related-ish: Leaked Recipes: The Cookbook: A Collection of Over 50 Recipes Found in the World's Biggest Email Leaks and the Stories Behind Them, Neiman Marcus’s “leaked” cookie recipe, and Bill Smith's Atlantic Beach Pie.

 

Um, medical updates, coming through! Thanks to @roseytimestwo for bringing slipping rib syndrome to our attention. Also: Our pitch for Capsule for your prescription needs still stands (and check out Alto Pharmacy if Capsule doesn’t serve your city). 

 

Shopping in-person brought the impressive Westman Atelier Vital Skincare Complexion Drops into Erica’s life (paired with a brush from Vapour).

 

If you’re over storage bags soaking up the scent of your dish soap, try HoldOn for compostable kitchen (and garbage!) bags.

 

For an incredible lens into imagery’s impact on society, Emily Keegin and her IG is blowing Claire away. 

 

To learn more about induction stoves, dig into this Fast Company article and Melissa Clark’s NYT story and follow what Copper (thanks for sharing, Sofia!) and Impulse are up to. 

 

Have thoughts on any and all of this to share? Reach out to us at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq—or join ur Geneva! For a whole lot more recommendations, try out a Secret Menu membership.

 

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Jan 09, 2023
Crowd Favorite: Nora McInerny on Supporting People Through the Hard Stuff (and a Gift Idea Too)
59:18

The holidays can be *hard*, and if you need some guidance on figuring out how to show up for the people in your life, Nora McInerny knows what she’s talking about. Fire up this rerun from 2021, and crack open her latest book, Bad Vibes Only, which makes for an excellent way to kick of a strong year of reading.

 

In case of emergency gifts for grown-ups: consumables (candles, condiments, beauty products!). For babies: Lewis swaddles and Sophies. For kids: Twee chalk, Sunprint Kits, and Omy coloring posters.

 

Dig into everything Nora McInerny puts out into the world, including the tremendous podcast Terrible, Thanks for Asking and her books It's Okay to Laugh (Crying Is Cool Too), No Happy Endings, and Hot Young Widows Club (and created a Facebook grief support group of the same name).

 

The NYT piece on the sex educator Justine Ang Fonte and the platinum rule.

 

The Ring Theory, which we really buy into and talk about a lot! 

 

A Kids Book about Empathy...that’s potentially useful for adults, too.

 

Friends, this TikTok series from Carly Aquilino on Y2K fashion.

 

Hit us with your guest noms—or anything else—at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq. Or join our Geneva! And try out a Secret Menu membership for a whole lot more recommendations.

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Jan 02, 2023
Crowd Favorite: BECs, Celebrities Reading Memoirs, and Other Things We Love Talking About
46:11

One of our most popular (winning??) episodes of 2021, coming at you!

 

The usefulness of the term bitch eating crackers (BEC) (for context: Someecards).

 

Celebrity memoirs as audiobooks: Inside Out by Demi Moore, Acid for the Children by Flea, and Yearbook by Seth Rogen (see also: this profile by Jonah Weiner for NYT Magazine). Next up: My Life So Far by Jane Fonda, Faithfull by Marianne Faithful The Last Black Unicorn by Tiffany Haddish. Oh, and: the podcast Celebrity Book Club with Steven & Lily. Also: Please read Open by Andre Agassi and J.R. Moehringer!

 

Important breaking news: There is now Spelling Bee merch.   

 

Let’s hear Claire’s QVC pitch for the Pattern mist spray bottle!! Somewhat related: Mario Badescu Facial Spray with Aloe, Herbs and Rosewater...as a hair product?

 

Erica’s 11 a.m. tea go-to: Soul Chai. Another (slightly sweetened rec): Dona.

 

A workspace-changing Philips Hue light strip. You may also like: Gorilla mounting tape, Storage Theory Power Perch, and the Pretty Handy Girl video for changing your doorknobs.

 

Jewelry renovation with Spur = talk about amazing.


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Dec 26, 2022
Conflicted Boots, Toddler Gossip, and Vending-Machine Salads
44:44

Get ready for an extra-magical grab bag episode—partly because we’re recording in person! Its stars: a question we loved so much, our conflicted boots, gossiping about toddlers, an impassioned pitch for Farmer's Fridge, setting calendar alerts for topics of conversation, and the most revelatory jeans that have ever crossed our fitting-room doors.

 

Movie we’re itching to see: Women Talking (thanks for the pitch, Fran.) based on this Miriam Toews book.

 

The winter boots we have mixed feelings about…but wear the crap out of: Claire’s No.6 clog ones (covered by The New Yorker *and* The New York Times) and Erica’s Doc Marten zip chelsea style.

 

Should you find yourself in an airport: Eat Farmer's Fridge! Try the baja bowl, green goddess salad, or pineapple coconut chia pudding.

 

Dr. Harvey Karp’s Happiest Toddler on the Block, source of toddler gossip advice.

 

Anne Helen Petersen on calendar culture.

 

For some WOW-inducing jeans, check out Ganni’s Figni style (and perhaps watch the vid of how they work?). For more on statement flies, see Tibi’s double-waisted Sam jean and this Vogue story. Another good denim source: Totême.

 

Have thoughts about jeans/winter boots/airport food? Let us know 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq—or join our Geneva! And try out a Secret Menu membership for a whole lot more recommendations.

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Dec 19, 2022
Thingies c/o the Design Gurus Behind Sight Unseen, Normal People, and a Perfect Hate Gift
43:46

Let’s talk Thingies with Monica Khemsurov & Jill Singer! They’re the masterminds behind Sight Unseen, our go-to design resource since 2009, and the authors of the new book How to Live with Objects that has helpful tips aplenty (along with ample inspiration). Plus: a hate-gift idea and a belated love letter to Normal People

 

How about a donation to Moms for Moms, pitched to us as an A+ hate-gift by a listener?

 

Monica and Jill’s book How to Live with Objects is out now! Wow, is it great—and what an ideal present for the “person who has everything” type.

 

Their Thingies, coming through: oversize decor, miniature fountains (Monica’s is from Lily Clark.), only buying the best version of a consumable something (Jill loves the Marie Veronique Barrier Lipid Complex, rice from The Rice Factory New York, and Glaser Organic Farms Almond Butter.), microwaves (David Chang Cooking at Home and Anyday cookware fans unite!), and saved search terms when exploring vintage objects. 

 

Are there entertainment-y things you’re SHOCKED we haven’t talked about on this show? Leave us a voicemail at 833-632-5463, email us at podcast@athingortwohq.com, DM us at @athingortwohq —or join our Geneva and share! 

 

This episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode.

 

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Dec 12, 2022
Build-a-Bear After Dark, Dua Lipa, and the Most Midwestern of Sayings
41:22

Ope! We’re back with a grab bag of questions: What does “After Dark” mean to you? How does one explain what consulting is? Are you signed up for Dua Lipa’s newsletter? What does it mean to actually *build* a bear? All this and more in your ears now!

 

For some discomfitting Build-a-Bear products for adults, enter The Bear Cave. For other “but what does it MEAN?” After Dark content, check out National Parks After Dark and this edition of Emily Henry’s Book Lovers

 

Check out this YouTube video from Charlie Berens for on ope usage and Midwest vs. Everybody’s great ope merch. Also: on the rise of the Midwestern vibe.

 

Takeaways re: "A ‘Landmark’ as Women Will Coach Against Each Other in Men’s Soccer," which also made us think about this episode of Throwing Fits.

 

Join us in subscribing to Dua Lipa’s newsletter Service95 and listening to her podcast At Your Service

 

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Dec 05, 2022
Resale Doyenne Kate Lindello's Thingies and Corn Nuts (Brought to ya by Noihsaf Bazaar!)
38:58

For this glorious ep, we partnered with Noihsaf Bazaar, the Duluth, Minnesota–based resale site curated by real people with excellent taste. Wow, how excited we are to talk secondhand shopping and Thingies with the very in-the-know founder Kate Lindello…and we’ll also take this (any?) opportunity to go nuts for corn nuts. 

 

Kate’s Thingies include Monastery Attar Concentrate (perhaps start with—or gift—the discovery kit), Tibi Style Class, the Dik-Dik from Matek (which makes us think of dickey situations from Nanamica and Mijeong Park), Better Things, Peter Witrak’s mobiles, the wool cloud from Scarf Shop, and, of course, Minnesota in general (and Grandma’s Marathon specifically). 

 

Hit us up at at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq to let us know your dream Thingies guests, and for even more recommendations, try out a Secret Menu membership and join our Geneva


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Nov 28, 2022
Gift Guide Part 2: Siblings, Kids, Colleagues, Friends, and Everyone Else
58:24

We’re wrapping up (heh) this year’s gift guides with ideas for siblings, kids, aunts and uncles, colleagues, and the randos in your life you wanna treat extra nice. Have holiday-shopping thoughts of your own you *need* to share? Join our shiny new Geneva and spread that intel! 

 

For all our ideas, check out the archive of gift guides past—and keep those VMs and DMs coming at 833-632-5463 and @athingortwohq!

 

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Sisters!

 

For my sister and me because we both had/are having babies this year, and we are culturally christian literally only for the christmas cheer. Baby's first christmas holiday ornaments that aren't absolutely dreadful. So much cheesy stuff, doesn't have to be baby themed but looking for a cool way to commemorate.

 

Step-sister; 18 and just got engaged. Likes to hunt. We are quite different.

 

My sister who is a palliative care nurse with a broadway and true crime obsession

Brothers!

 

25-year-old brother, aspirational and practicing writer/actor/director, v into self-improvement (Tim Ferriss vibes), not into receiving gifts, would rather just buy what he wants when he wants, the curveball is he did say I could make him some art or buy him some art as apartment decor.

 

Early 20s brothers who still live at home.

 

Sons!

25 year old son who buys the nicer things because they last, but who is also a minimalist.

 

Kids and Teens!

 

5-year-old who bounces off the walls and loves telling stories and recapping movies.

 

4-year-old who loves twirly dresses but mom's aesthetic is minimalist Brooklyn hipster.

 

13year old girl who claims she discovered preppy fashion and also loves hair product

 

Aunts and Uncles!

 

A generous aunt whose language is giving other people gifts, but hard to buy for herself. She's a real estate agent, into some woo-y self-help stuff, and buys anything she needs right away. Have tried gift certificates for experiential things, but she's a busy lady and these often don't get redeemed.

 

Colleagues!

 

Beloved senior colleague retiring: works in a museum, fun dog, rocks a funky necklace. 

 

Coworkers/direct reports - ideally one idea for all. We are remote so a digital gift is ideal. 

 

My boss - owns a company that runs farmer markets. I’ve been with the company since may. He is currently starting a farm (he has been a farmer before). I am honestly not sure if he is a Christmas guy. He doesn't seem jazzed about it, idk. I know he cares enormously about sustainability, our food system, etc. but is also a business man. I have literally zero ideas for him. The additional piece is that we should get him a gift as a group (we are a pretty small team) but should I also get him a sep gift? No, right? Agh. I assume he's in his mid to late 40s. White. He has small kids that I haven't met.

 

Friends!

 

Best friend (36 female) loves wine and who my 5 yo thinks has chosen being an aunt as her career. 

 

Female friend. Preppy/classic style. Likes fancy crafts (i.e., embroidery). Vegan. ~$40

 

One of my best friends who has two boys under 4, is writing a thesis on how policing was formed out of military-imperialist activities, and is a great chef and baker (vegetarian and gluten-free). She did all our friends' wedding hair and makeup (me included) and took us to the Usher residency in Vegas for her 36th birthday. Lastly, and most importantly, her family is very wealthy (and generous - they have taken me on MANY incredible once-in-a-lifetime trips). Lastly, she is a BIG SHOPPER but still hunts for a deal. If you're wondering, I have already given her a custom Katie Kimmel pet vase.

 

Recovering cool girl that doesn't want any more vinyl, just something useless + gorge. 

 

Everyone Else!

Brother's girlfriend who loves to read, has 2 cats, hates clutter, and many food allergies.

 

Gymnastics moms who plan trips, organize fundraisers and figure out carpool.

 

Millennial who loves gardening and just started a high powered public job in the city.

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Nov 21, 2022
Gift Guide Part 1: Partners, Parents, and Grandparents
01:06:12

It’s that time of year: the unveiling of the best gift guide in the podcast multiverse (we like to think). Part 1 stars your most charming—and trickiest—partners, parents, and grandparents. Next week, tune in for part 2, and, in the meantime, dig into the ol’ present-paralysis back catalogue.

For the full episode recap—with ALL THE LINKS!—head to the A Thing or Two site.

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Husbands and Boyfriends!

42-year-old male. Recently started dating. Lawyer. Dad. World traveler. Cyclist. Just bought a new house. Moved back to the area (Philly) from upstate new york. photographer. reader. avid home cook. knows a Parisian knot. loves a good meal out. linen shirt wearer. loafers/boat shoes with shorts kind of guy. Enjoys wine and cocktails. catholic raised. city dweller. nerdy and thoughtful.

 

Husband who thinks he's outdoorsy but hasn't been camping in decades.

 

Husband who owns a ceramics company and has an eye for design.

Wives and Girlfriends!

 

Chronically ill wife with long-covid 2.5 years, doesn't like surprises, and in bed most days. loves sports, her friends, sitting in the park, and a great deal.

 

Grandparents!

My 90-year-old grandma who refuses hearing aides because we don't visit enough and lives off of chipotle and chips.

 

My mostly home-bound grandma. Loves her tomato plants, vitamins, and Bob Barker.

 

Moms, Stepmoms, and Mothers-In-Law!

 

My mom is my white whale: needs nothing, no guilt in buying herself things she wants. Hates Christmas but derives joy from getting to complain about it. Good cook with a global palette (has all the gadgets she approves of and a long list of gadgets she does not endorse), news junkie, reads a lot. 61, both of my parents are retired, lives in the Pacific Northwest. Has taste but no style, hates clutter. Buys her clothes at Costco. Drinks nice wine that she also buys at Costco. Thinks art is stupid (I am an artist). She's very funny but she really leans into her brand of "antisocial curmudgeon." Successful gifts in the past were an NYtimes subscription and a fancy amaryllis bulb that she can text me about and shame it for blooming the wrong time of year. I try to veer towards consumables. She can also appreciate a handmade ceramic (functional, not decorative).

 

My mom: She always asks for electronics and then ends up not being able to figure them out - or just doesn't use them. Want to get her something meaningful she will use.

Stepmother-in-law who is a spiritual counselor in Colorado. Obviously vegan.

 

Mother In Law - has more clothes than Nordstrom. Lives alone but her party line is always ringing.

 

This one is for my five-foot-tall Italian American mother in law who has the thickest New York accent I've ever heard and could be described as "a tiny tank" in both stature and personality. she lives on Long Island and has access to everything; also tends to buy herself whatever she wants. so she's extremely hard to gift for. Whatever we give should probably be a physical gift vs. an experience. she is very judgmental and critical and not warm and fuzzy - but she has also had the difficult task of being a single parent to two kids, one of whom, my SIL, is living at home with significant physical and intellectual disabilities and who my MIL devotes all her time to - my SIL is so well taken care of. Looking for a gift that somehow recognizes/responds to all of this.

 

Mom and her husband just bought a boat. So something nautical or for small space living.

 

Mother-in-law who is the solo living grandparent to our 4-year-old and Buddhist priest who wants nothing but time with us. However, she is always a generous and thoughtful gift-giver so I can't just give her time. She is a tea lover but you can imagine how much tea I've already given her. She has a dog, loves the color periwinkle, and spends a lot of time on Zoom with her Sangha. She's forever 'writing a book' and loves getting on board with a system (for writing, for organizing, whatever). Help!

 

Dads, Step-Dads, and Fathers-in-Law!

My dad, who is a retired chef (he still has knives from 40 years ago that he painstakingly cares for and finds most home kitchens to be very pretentious), can build/fix anything, loves to read non-fiction, and was suspended from Twitter frequently for tweeting insults at Donald Trump

 

Mid 60's Frenchman who lives in Alsace with his wife and they travel a lot in their RV. they are also coming to the states next spring on a cross-country RV trip so I really think it should revolve around that. but more about him- he doesn't drink or smoke (some Frenchman he is) when we would drive to Florida once a year he would always be so excited to get to put on Latin American music on the radio. last year we got him a record player and records that I am 100% sure he doesn't use. he loves scrabble and card games, and he builds these badass card holders out of wood that he then does wood-burning personalized deco on. he has everything he wants and he wears lee jeans.

 

Dad who enjoys perfecting logistics and explaining credit card point strategy.

 

Former CIA and green beret but loves appletinis and bubble baths.

 

I need help finding a gift for my picky and hard-working lawyer Dad. He loves outdoor adventures, Neil Young, doing puzzles with my Mom, and reading. My parents recently became part-time New Yorkers and keep buying art museum memberships. He loves to do research before purchasing anything and tends to buy whatever he wants. My Mom is a chronic shopper, so he usually has multiples of whatever he confesses to liking - Ugg slippers, Jack Black face wash, William Henry knives. He is a big guy and doesn’t fit into standard S-L sizes. He also doesn’t drink alcohol or coffee. In the past, he has disliked gifts that involve more labor (i.e. a smoker, a drone). I am not opposed to making a donation in his name, but my family’s love language is gifts and I would need to accompany a donation with something for him to unwrap. Per Claire’s request for dental records, he lost his front teeth as a kid playing Pee Wee football. He broke his fake set in a fight the day of his junior prom and attended the dance sans front teeth. He is so fun and deserves a great gift. Last year, I got him a Storyworth membership and he loved it (thanks for the recommendation!) I am hoping for a repeat success. Also, he is a January birthday, so I could use multiple ideas. Please help!

 

Wisconsin Father in Law who likes sports. End of list.

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Nov 14, 2022
Jamie Beck's Thingies...and Hate-Gifting?!
42:40

We’ve got the French-culture report AND a bunch of glorious Thingies from Jamie Beck, whose book An American in Provence: Art, Life and Photography is out tomorrow, just in time for holiday wish-listing. Related: We take a min. to talk about hate-gifting, sparked by some of the requests we’ve gotten in recent years. 

 

You really have to see Jamie’s book An American in Provence to believe it (and to live vicariously through it, obviously).

 

Jamie’s Thingies include Dries Van Noten refillable lipstick in Antwerp Vermeil, good lighting (via a soft ring light, natural sunlight, or a fridge) and a chic phone case, cooking over a fire with an Alice Waters–approved egg spoon, Westman Atelier’s Super Loaded Tinted Highlight in Peau de Rosé and Chantecaille’s Liquid Lumière, and Savon de Marseille for stain-removal (related: Jenny Walton on IG). For some very French gift-giving, she loves anything from Buly 1803

 

For all your gifting quandries, hit us up at at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq. And try out a Secret Menu membership for more recommendations! 

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Nov 07, 2022
Jamie Beck's Thingies...and Hate-Gifting?!

We’ve got the French-culture report AND a bunch of glorious Thingies from Jamie Beck, whose book An American in Provence: Art, Life and Photography is out tomorrow, just in time for holiday wish-listing. Related: We take a min. to talk about hate-gifting, sparked by some of the requests we’ve gotten in recent years. 

 

You really have to see Jamie’s book An American in Provence to believe it (and to live vicariously through it, obviously).

 

Jamie’s Thingies include Dries Van Noten refillable lipstick in Antwerp Vermeil, good lighting (via a soft ring light, natural sunlight, or a fridge) and a chic phone case, cooking over a fire with an Alice Waters–approved egg spoon, Westman Atelier’s Super Loaded Tinted Highlight in Peau de Rosé and Chantecaille’s Liquid Lumière, and Savon de Marseille for stain-removal (related: Jenny Walton on IG). For some very French gift-giving, she loves anything from Buly 1803

 

For all your gifting quandries, hit us up at at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq. And try out a Secret Menu membership for more recommendations! 

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Nov 07, 2022
Halloween Candy, Crowded Travel, and Embracing Our Fandom
31:51

Happy Halloween from two people who nailed the theme! Today we’re celebrating the joy of dressing up for *any* occasion and sharing some more thoughts on travel when it just feels like everyone is going to the same places. 

 

The inspiration behind our conversation about travel: Rebecca Jenning’s article “The Instagram capital of the world is a terrible place to be” for Vox

 

If you want some outfit inspo for your next concert, Harry Styles or otherwise, check out this New Yorker Photo Booth feature or Paola Mathe’s GRWM. 

 

For more on the impact fandom has on popular culture, check out Everything I Need I Get From You by Kaitlyn Tiffany.

 

Come at us with your hot takes! Share them with us at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq. And try out a Secret Menu membership for many more recommendations.

 

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Oct 31, 2022
Recho Omondi's Thingies and "Know Regrets"
39:34

We’re chatting with Recho Omondi, a fashion designer and the host of the incredible podcast The Cutting Room Floor, and you’re going to want to hear her Thingies (and everything else she’s interested in, honestly). Also: a tattoo that got our wheels turning.

 

If you’re looking for a follow-up to our convo about living with longing, check out this this New Yorker article about choose your own adventure books by Leslie Jamison. See also: Lois Lowry on the 70 Over 70 podcast.

 

Hit play on Recho’s podcast The Cutting Room Floor; do all your chores! A recent cool guest: Mina White. A few dream guests: Mel Ottenberg and Piergiorgio Del Moro.

 

And if you’re YouTube-curious, Colin and Samir is a Recho-recommended channel. 

 

Recho’s Thingies include Kinn fine jewelry, Camber hoodies (more ℅ a recent GQ story) Anthony Bourdain: Parts Unknown (specifically the Massachusetts ep), Parachute linen bedding (our other recs: Linoto, and Merci), and her Jenni Kayne Home bed.  

 

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Oct 24, 2022
Margo Price’s Thingies and Fanny Packs
33:11

Introducing our first rockstar guest, Margo Price! She shares her Thingies and talks about writing her memoir, Maybe We’ll Make It, which is a story of perseverance, tell you what. 

 

The fanny-pack discourse: We have an update on the Bandolier, a discussion of pockets ft. Véronique Hyland’s book Dress Code, and a pitch for goofier kids’ clothes inspired by this crewneck with a built-in fanny pack from All Small Co. 

 

What inspired Margo’s Maybe We’ll Make It? Patti Smith’s incredible Just Kids

 

Margo’s Thingies include T3 hair dryers and curling irons, Greater Goods CBD/CBN Evening Tincture, Thieves Oil, Acid for the Children by Flea, and two Nashville faves: A Shop of Things and The Continental

 

If you’re new to Margo’s music and want a place to start, hit play on "Pay Gap"...and get ready for a new album in January.

 

Do you have a dream Thingies guest? Thoughts about fanny packs you need to share? We’re ready for them at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq. And for more recommendations, try out a Secret Menu membership.

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Oct 17, 2022
High School Reunions and Snack 'n Condiment Updates
47:17

We're coming to you fresh from our high-school reunions, and there are lots of reflections ahead. On old friendships, yes…and also on dips, chips, and the controversial baby carrot.

 

Some condiments we’re excited about include Cabi sweet yuzu vinegar, umami dashi soy sauce, and zesty sansho peppercorn miso. We’re also loving Chicas tortilla chips, Burlap & Barrel black lime and Reem’s spice blends, Gjusta Goods marinated olive oil and herbed salt, Ella’s Flats, Zingerman’s pimento cheese, Gotham Greens pesto, McClure’s little pickles, and Breadblok almond thins. For more tremendous munching, head to Portugalia Marketplace in Fall River, Massachusetts (or, you know, online).

 

An iconic book of our teen years: Swell: A Girl's Guide to the Good Life by Ilene Rosenzweig and Cynthia Rowley

 

Do you have thoughts on reunions (or hot snack tips)? Let us know at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq. And for more recommendations, try out a Secret Menu membership.

 

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Oct 10, 2022
Jessi Hempel's Thingies and Reporting from the TikTok Frontlines
41:29

We have an amazing Guest Thingies episode today with Jessi Hempel, prolific tech writer and host of the podcast Hello Monday whose new memoir The Family Outing you have to check out. Also: details about our blossoming relationship with TikTok. 

 

A TikTok follow for your pop-culture PR needs: @mollybmcpherson

 

The Family Outing! A memoir! If this description doesn’t suck you in: “By the time Jessi reached adulthood, everyone in her family had come out: Jessi as gay, her sister as bisexual, her father as gay, her brother as transgender, and her mother as a survivor of a traumatic experience with an alleged serial killer.”

 

A book that gets at the challenges of memory: David Carr’s The Night of the Gun.

 

An A Thing or Two rec that Jessi cosigns: this inflatable travel pillow for flying with a kid…but probably for lots of other purposes, too. 

 

Jessi’s Thingies: Potette (as she’s on a potty-training journey that rivals Claire’s), Cliq portable camping chairs for sitting…everywhere, Anne Helen Peterson’s Culture Study newsletter, and adding your pronouns to your email signature. 

 

Our conversation about returning to the office—RTO, y’all!—made us think of Delia Cai’s great piece in Vanity Fair.

 

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Oct 03, 2022
The Jibbitz Origin Story, “Affordable” and “Expensive,” and a Good Gift Q
44:01

Updates AND new topics? Wow, this episode really has it all. We issue a correction about Jibbitz, share some third-birthday gift recommendations, and present some alts for words like “affordable” and “expensive,” which are loaded (<< money pun).

 

PSAs! Secret Menu subscribers now have access to searchable archives: You can now dig into the back issues of our Monday newsletter and each ‘n every installment of What Are the Cute. Also, we received so many amazing responses to our second-kid conversation that we saved a bunch to an Instagram highlight.

 

Our sources re: the backstory of Jibbitz: NBC News, Business News Daily, and The Times

 

Molly Young’s article “The Cookie Jar Grows Up” in The New York Times that’s about so much more than a locked box for your phone. Also, we still think about Shonda Rimes's Year of Yes…and have starting thinking more about Brandy & Whitney’s Cinderella.

 

Our recs for a gift for a three year old include a Yoto Player, a karaoke mic, a Loog guitar or this Kid’s Concept one, a DJ Mixer, Magnatiles, a custom coloring poster with the kid’s name, costumes like this firefighter one or a customized superhero cape, If there’s room and it’s in the budget: Haus. And something we should all know: USPS now makes Buzz Lightyear stamps

 

If you have recommendations for kid-friendly space movies—beyond Muppets from Space— or substitutes for “affordable,” “expensive,” and the like, let us know at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq. And for more recommendations, try out a Secret Menu membership.

 

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Sep 26, 2022
Ellen Van Dusen's Thingies and Creativity Insights from Elder Celebrity White Men
46:54

We’re so excited about this week’s Guest Thingies with Ellen Van Dusen of Dusen Dusen—great recommendations await! But first, some nuggets of wisdom from famously creative famous dudes.

 

We’re definitely taking inspiration from Rod Stewart’s model railway side project and Tom Hanks's advice to Austin Butler

 

Ellen’s Thingies include being comfortable inside and outside the home (please see: her delightful robes…and brand-new slippers!!), @Favetiktoks420 on Instagram, and cool silverware (especially David Tisdale’s Picnic Flatware, which makes us think of Ahimsa dinnerware for kids). She also loves tile right now—see: Heath Ceramics, her collab with Concrete Collaborative, Fireclay, and Oasis—and you have to, have to check out her backyard mosaic. Last but not least: Her love of bird-watching has us asking when she’s going to start selling the birdhouse she designed for Brooklyn Botanic Garden (in the meantime, the MoMA one we’re all into). Ooh, and as we told Ellen, Where'd You Go, Bernadette is a great book and a much better movie than it gets credit for being.

 

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Sep 19, 2022
A Romantic-Fiction Primer and Some Identity-Protection Intel from Allstate
46:10

Let’s go in-depth on romance novels! But first, we’re chatting with Madeline Nusser from Allstate Identity Protection, which oh-so-graciously sponsored this episode, to dig into something equally sexy: doing what you can to thwart identity theft. 

 

Go to AIP.com/AThingOrTwo today to see if Allstate Identity Protection is available through your employer. If not sign up there to get a 30-day free trial..

Check out The Washington Post article on the rise of romance in the U.S. and this Twitter thread from Helen Rosner on the weirdness of publishing categories. 

 

Some books that are not romance novels but kind of are: 

Normal People by Sally Rooney

Call Me by Your Name by André Aciman

Eleanor & Park by Rainbow Rowell

The Sun Is Also a Star by Nicola Yoon (but her book Instructions for Dancing counts!)

Love in the Time of Cholera by Gabriel García Márquez

Never Let Me Go by Kazuo Ishiguro

 

Books we endorse for romance newbs:

The Idea of You by Robinne Lee

The Roommate by Rosie Danan

How to Fake It in Hollywood by Ava Wilder

Something Wilder by Christina Lauren

Seven Days in June by Tia Williams

Book Lovers by Emily Henry

The Heart Principle by Helen Hoang

Take a Hint, Dani Brown by Talia Hibbert (see also: our podcast ep with Tallia)

Evvie Drake Starts Over by Linda Holmes

Honey and Spice by Bolu Babalola (who’s a great Twitter follow)

Red, White & Royal Blue by Casey McQuiston

Every Summer After by Carley Fortune

 

More romance authors with many books to dive into: 

Jasmine Guillory 

Abby Jimenez

Tessa Bailey

 

Have a romance novel you want, neeeeeed to recommend? Let us know at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq. And for more recommendations, try out a Secret Menu membership.

 

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Sep 12, 2022
Crowd Favorite: Michigan Star Restaurants, Patient Advocacy, Covid Weddings, and A+ Apps
41:18

​​You know what we have a lot to say about in this best-of-2011 ep? A lot of things, from high praise for neighborhood restaurants and actually useful apps to sharing weddings FAQs and advocating for yourself at the doctor’s office.

If you want to sell others on the Michigan Star restaurant, maybe send them this quickie podcast pitch we did on The Best Advice Show

 

Behold, the Covid wedding template of our dreams:

Our beloved friends & family,

It's only 30 days until our wedding! We're so glad that you are coming and celebrating this special day with us. 

A few announcements regarding the wedding: 

Serious stuff

  • You must be fully vaccinated to attend the event. Please send your proof of vaccination to EMAIL ADDRESS.
  • For children and adults with underlying medical conditions preventing them from getting vaccinated, we ask that you obtain a negative PCR Covid-19 test result within 48 hours prior to the event.
  • Your health is of utmost importance to us, and we have therefore decided to cancel ANY CHANGES TO EVENT SCHEDULE.

Fun stuff

  • X, Y, Z!

 

Apps worth your limited phone storage space: Weather Strip, Libby, and PictureThis (related-ish: Merlin Bird ID). 

 

We’re here for your feedback!  Share it with us at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq. And for more recommendations, try out a Secret Menu membership.

 

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Sep 05, 2022
Stroll Don’t Scroll, Organized Whimsy, and Grandma Sayings
37:06

Join us! We’re revisiting how we approach creativity and talk about people who refuse to be hemmed in by expectations and the algorithm. 

 

For some insight about opening up to what interests you at a time and trusting that it will serve you, check out Steve Martin’s memoir, Born Standing Up, and read Pamela Adlon’s essay for Harper’s Bazaar.

 

After watching the newest Julia on HBO Max, we’re doing a Judith Jones deep-dive—next up: reading her memoir The Tenth Muse: My Life in Food. Another book that’s making us think about creative possibility: Margiela: The Hermès Years

 

People who spread their (creative) wings: Stacey Abrams and her romance career as Selena Montgomery, Serena Willaims and her nail technician story, Venus Williams founding her design firm V Starr Interiors the same year she was ranked No. 1, David Lynch and his woodworking, and Bella Hadid, who has a new glassblowing hobby.  

 

Rachel Tashjian’s Opulent Tips newsletter—sign up via DM!—introduced us to the idea of STROLL DONT SCROLL, and her recent Harper’s Bazaar pieces on Christopher John Rogers and Schiaparelli are great reads that show ya how her brain works. 

 

Tune into Details Matter, from Jenni Kayne Home, a podcast we’re producing that has also been giving us a whole lot of inspiration, including the IG algorithm bit we mention ℅ Amanda Gunawan.

 

Do you have any top-tier grandma sayings? Share them with us at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq. And for more recommendations, try out a Secret Menu membership.


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Aug 29, 2022
Kavi Ahuja Moltz’s Thingies and a Good Ol’ Potty-Training Update
49:04

It’s Guest Thingies Day! We’re so excited to chat with Kavi Ahuja Moltz, the CEO of the exceptional scent co. D.S. & DURGA and the sort of person who knows cool stuff, always.

 

But first: potty-training and a related story from Romper about camping with kids

 

Our favorite D.S. & DURGA perfumes include Italian Citrus, Coriander, and Rose Atlantic…and don’t sleep on the candles and genius auto fragrances, either. Ooh, also: This one-minute quiz is surprisingly delightful.

 

Kavi’s Thingies include traveling with playing cards, Fenty Beauty Cheeks Out Cream Blush in Daiquiri Dip, looong walks, and potato chips (Charles Chips in the tin especially—and shout-out to this Eater story about why we don’t have masala chips at our grocers). She also loves fun socks! Her faves are from Simone Rocha and Tabio (see also: Darner and Hysteria), and her standard go-tos are Adidas black with white stripes.  

 

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Aug 22, 2022
Best of the Monday Newsletter and Hamlet, but with Karaoke
44:10

It’s time to chat about all the stuff we’re obsessed with lately, most of which has been included in our Monday newsletter—do you get that thing??

 

Keep an eye on Fat Ham, a play we think will definitely have a second life, ideally on Broadway. 

 

We both got a lot out of Burn Rate by Bonobos founder Andy Dunn, which tells the story of founding, running, and ultimately selling his company all while grappling with severe bipolar disorder. For another excellent memoir about bipolar disorder, read Kay Redfield Jamison’s An Unquiet Mind

 

Huge endorsement of the walnut larb at Good Night in Woodstock New York. The closest recipe comp we have surfaced is the one from walnuts.org

 

For a perfect after-dinner candle, it’s all about Big Night’s Dinner Party one. See also: Epicurious’s story about dinner-party-appropriate scents, No.10 Aboukir by Maison Louis Marie, and Park Life by Boy Smells.

 

Want to make sorbet at home? Everyday Food from Martha has a vid withThomas Joseph that involves floating an egg to achieve the ideal sugar content and texture.

 

Cam’s forest camp introduced us to the amazing Muddy Buddy, we’re getting more our of our walks listening to Marcos Trinidad's Human/Nature podcast, and we’re on top of hyper-local news thanks to Patch.com.

 

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Aug 15, 2022
Gardening, Second Kids, and Slackers
39:20

Buckle in, folks! This week, we’re talking about our garden-curator journeys, second-kid thoughts, and the slacker–to–chaos goblin line cook pipeline. 

 

Looking for Fast-Growing Trees? Thank goodness there’s a company that sells exactly those.  Love the Bloomerang lilac shrub, and you clearly need to know about the smoothie kit. If you wanna grow the ~cool~ flowers, check out Plantgem. A few faves they sell: ProCut plum sunflower, crocus saffron bulbs, and Irene Parrot tulip bulbs. Peony fans should investigate Styer’s, David Austin is as good at roses as at customer service, and for regional wildflower seed mixes, look to Wildseed Farms

 

How’s you decide whether or not to have a second kid? Please share any and all thoughts you have on this topic with us at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq.  An article related to this conversation: Emily Gould’s NYT piece "More Kids? After the Last Two Years? No Thanks.

 

For thoughts about the present-day incarnation of the slacker, check out this tremendous tweet by @yeehaw_meg. (Of course, we’re thinking about it in the context of The Bear.) 

 

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Aug 08, 2022
Noah Kalina's Thingies and Destination Sandwiches
49:40

This is a jam-packed episode: We’ve got destination sandwiches. We’ve got photographer Noah Kalina’s Thingies. We’ve got baby-wipes expertise from grown-ups. Ready? Great.  

 

If you’re in NYC, please scurry to & Sons Buttery for their salami cotto sandwich (please also eat at the restaurant—a ham bar!) and Court Street Grocers for their vegitalian. Special shoutout to The Bobbie from Capriotti’s in Wilmington, Delaware, too. For further destination-sandwich reading, check out Helen Rosner's New Yorker story about the plane sandwich and the Turkey and the Wolf cookbook by Mason Hereford with JJ Goode. 

 

Check out Noah Kalina’s Instagram, his curiosity-filled newsletter, his podcasts JPEG 2000 and Do you hear that?, his incredible portraits of chickens, and, wow, so much more.

 

Noah’s Thingies include the Samsung Frame that turns into art (art!) when it’s off, Cometeer coffee, the Toto Washlet, Water Wipes for when you’re away from your Toto Washlet, (bonus rec from Claire for toddlers: Coterie Wipes), Ego power tools, and Crocs (<< Erica has feelings.). 


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Aug 01, 2022
Corrections, Follow-Ups, and Milan
46:41

It’s about time for an addendums episode! AKA an ep where we dump our additional thoughts (and your feedback) on topics we’ve discussed—because there’s always more to say about styling, aging, and, apparently, catalogs. 

 

Looking for a method to define your personal style? Check out Allison Bornstein’s Three-Word  Method on TikTok: part 1, part 2, part 3, part 4, part 5, and part 6 for your clicking pleasure. (Call us with your wooords!!) More about her philosophy in this Harper’s Bazaar profile.

 

Re: styling, a follow-up on Amy Smilovic, including the outfit that stopped Claire in her tracks and her shirt-tying innovation. When it comes to button-downs, Claire loves her custom oversize Chava one—it’s great with elastic-waist pants (as is this Roucha tank top.) 

 

In response to our discussion of marbling, we learned about some family-owned places to get monogrammed marbled gifts in Florence: Alberto Cozzi and Riccardo Luci

 

Speaking of Italy, we both recently visited and fell hard for Milan—it lives up to the promise of Jenny Walton’s Instagram and Sight Unseen’s Design Week coverage. Keep an eye out for a future Secret Menu installment starring our favorite Milan spots. 

 

Also on the docket: push-up tips, Being Mortal by Atul Gawande for grieving and coping with aging parents, and The Flamingo Estate catalog for zaniness…and as a resource for anyone in L.A. who might want to receive  a bag of manure as a gift.

 

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Jul 25, 2022
Lauren Sherman's Thingies and It's a Trip, Not a Vacation
51:03

Who better to talk Thingies with than Lauren Sherman, the chief correspondent at The Business of Fashion and the host of their wonderful—and quick!—new podcast The Debrief?! NOBODY. She fills us in on the third-wave coffee movement (We have a lot of questions.), a great investment T-shirt, and the trick that keeps her kid well-rested while traveling. Speaking of travel: There is a difference between a trip and a vacation, and we’d like to manage some expectations.

 

Listen to The Debrief—it has as feeling more fashion-industry-informed than we have in years.

 

Lauren has a LOT of insight on third-wave coffee and natural-process coffee beans. Some of her favorite places to get them: Andytown in San Franciso, Heart Coffee Roasters in Portland, Oregon, Tandem Coffee Roasters in Portland, Maine, 49th Parallel in Vancouver, Cafe integral in NYC, Dune Coffee Roasters in Santa Barbara, and Kumquat Coffee & Tea in Los Angeles. She’s also passionate about Three Trees almondmilk and making coffee with an AeroPress.

 

If you’re looking for a stand-out T-shirt, Lauren loves Dries van Noten’s. If you find yourself in Europe, scoop ‘em up there for better prices—or keep an eye on Yoox and The Outnet for deals. Other especially good brands for tees: James Perse and the men’s dept. of Comme des Garçons

 

When hitting the road with a baby, Lauren highly recommends bringing a SnoozeShade for Pack 'n Plays.

 

How do you order stuff that doesn’t ship to the U.S.? Lauren uses Reship.com for that, and KoreaBuddy is a good option for items from Korea specifically. 

 

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Jul 18, 2022
A Bouquet Hack, a Brunch Cookout, and What to Wear When It’s Hot—It’s a Grab Bag!
45:23

Today in mishmashes: We’re sharing some of the tricks and treats we’ve discovered recently, featuring Claire’s flower-wrapping upgrade, Erica’s brunch cookout recipes, and what to wear when it's hot, hot, hot. 

 

Erica’s rooftop brunch agenda included ordering donuts (from Doughnut Plant if you’re in NYC), finding a reliable friend to be in charge of grilling sausages (or, um, sausage strips!), and  whipping up two frittatas: the mustard-asparagus one from Cookie + Kate and the mushroom-ricotta one Julia Turshen’s Now & Again cookbook. 

 

And for dinner, Erica’s favorite canned cherry tomatoes from Mutti are great for many things, including her go-to summer tomato sauce c/o Alison Roman.

 

Claire’s revisiting this Mo Willems interview often, and on the diaper-bag front, she recommends Longchamp's Le Pliage (or any flat bag like it!). 

 

As we slip back into shorts, we like these knit guys from Kordal, a pleated linen pair from Alex Mill, grown-up cut-offs from Agolde, and these rolled jorts from Raey

 

Some options on our quest for a great summer dress include ones from Mille, Mirth, Sunspel, Organic by John Patrick, Kule, Falke, Loup Charmant, and Anaak

 

And on the topic of summer jeans, we like these from Agolde, and these from Roucha Pala. But also, these Jenni Kayne trousers!

 

Finally, if you’re looking for a dopamine hit, we highly recommend you search #sheldonshrimp to see the wonderful world of Sheldon Shrimp the Jellycat stuffed animal and his friends Herman Hermit, Crispin Crab (and, course, Bashful Bunny). 

 

Have anything related to this grab bag you’d like to share with us? Please do at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq. And for more recommendations, try out a Secret Menu membership!

 

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Jul 11, 2022
Crowd Favorite: Obligation, People-Pleasing, and Pillows (Yes, Pillows)
49:55

This episode—a 2021 crowd-pleaser!!—is all about the pressures we feel on our lives and our time (and, to a lesser extent, our necks and our tailbones). Don’t sleep on this one, is what we’re saying.

 

Live that ComfiLife! Side-sleep with a Hullo pillow!

 

The “Things We Want to Leave Behind and How to Start a Running Routine” ep we reference.

 

The Four Tendencies by Gretchen Rubin—there’s also a quiz for that

 

A handful of reads related to parenting (and, sigh, house work): All Joy and No Fun by Jennifer Senior, Year of Yes by Shonda Rhimes, Drop the Ball by Tiffany Dufu, and More Work For Mother by Ruth Schwartz Cowan.

 

An enthusiastic endorsement of Four Thousand Weeks: Time Management for Mortals by Oliver Burkeman.

 

Dirt’s “The season of tabs” newsletter by Alex Aciman. WE RELATE.

 

"The Myth of the Productive Commute" installment of Anne Helen Petersen’s Culture Study newsletter.

 

Talking about protecting your time with Mimi O Chun and “what happens if you don’t?” with Caroline Moss.

 

For last-min. presents, might we suggest Secret Menu gift subscriptions

 

Please share your obligation feeeeeelings! 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq!

 

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Jul 04, 2022
Aging and Longing (Um, the Wisdom Episode?)
39:08

We’re wise enough to know it’s about time for a ~wisdom~ ep. We share our feelings about feeling our age and some excellent advice we caught about living with a little longing.  

 

Some readings that impacted how we’ve been navigating aging include Being Mortal by Atul Gawande, Casey Johnston’s Swole Woman program, Cheryl Wischover’s “What Changed When I Started Lifting Weights” in the Gloria newsletter, and Kayleen Schaefer’s “How 50 Pushups A Day Helped Me Cope In An Uncertain World” for Elle

 

If you have thoughts on longing or musings about aging share them with us at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq. And try out a Secret Menu membership for more recommendations.

 

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Jun 27, 2022
Getting Dressed and Making Small Talk—SO HARD
41:02

Today we’re answering a listener question that we’ve been asking ourselves our whole lives: How TF does one get dressed (and, you know, feel good about what they’re wearing)? Also: We grapple with the big challenges we’re having with small talk.

 

For those looking for a tailor in NYC, Mend Tailoring and Alteration Specialists do house calls, and Silhouettes & Profiles on the UWS is great. In L.A., it’s all about Elias in Santa Monica.

 

Check out Amy Smilovic, Katie Sturino, and Jenna Lyons-era J.Crew for styling tips. Another stellar rec from our editor Maddie: Allison Bornstein’s TikTok

 

If you have any small-talk tips (and advice for what to wear with Issey Miyake Pleats Please pants) we want them at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq. For more recommendations, try out a Secret Menu membership.

 

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Jun 20, 2022
How We Vacation-Plan and Y2K Trends, the Second Time Around
40:46

So you picked a travel destination…and then what? We’re sharing the (only somewhat insane!) steps we take and the resources we love for planning a vacation. Also: Let’s spend a moment discussing the late nineties/early aughts trends that are re-catching our eyes and the ones we think we won’t wear again. 

 

Some reflections on the Miu Miu skirt ℅ this NYT article “Brief Encounters With a Micro Miniskirt.” 

 

When thinking about trip-planning, this Harvard Busiess Review article on "The Hidden Traps in Decision Making" and this installment of Val Monroe’s newsletter came to mind.

 

We love scoping out hotels on Welcome Beyond, Tablet Hotels, iescape, and Mr. & Mrs. Smith (hot tip, their write-ups of what to do nearby will also point you toward good sites, shops, and restaurants). We also check out the press section on a hotel’s website, see if they’ve won any awards (which led Erica to amazingplaces.cz for Czech Republic recs), and use TripAdvisor and Instagram location tags to see some realistic photos of each hotel. For rentals, we search Airbnb and Vrbo reviews for terms like “noisy,” dig into host profiles for other properties, and remind ourselves that you can reach out to hosts with Qs.

 

Our favorite guides come from Goop, Curbed (like "The 21 Best Things to Do in Milan If You Love Design") Eater, Sight Unseen, Remodelista, Afar, Here, Fathom, Stranger’s Guide, and New York mag’s “Steal My Vacation", and Cabana. The physical Wallpaper* City Guides are great, and 1,000 Places to See Before You Die by Patricia Shultz is a satisfying book to have + mark up.  

 

Share your planning tips and the trends you’re retreading (or rejecting) with us at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq. For many more recommendations, try out a Secret Menu membership.

 

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Jun 13, 2022
Guest Thingies with Emma Straub and Negotiating Advice That’s Stuck
47:10

Guest Thingies from Emma Straub—what a treat! If you haven’t read her many charming novels, start with her latest, This Time Tomorrow, and if you haven’t patronized her beloved Brooklyn bookstore Books Are Magic, we know you’re aching to remedy that. First up: business/money advice we’ve gotten that’s as quippy as it is useful. 

 

Emma’s Thingies: skincare, tea, allergy meds, and big underpants—starring facials from Rescue Spa, Biologique Recherche Lotion P50 toner, and Peter Thomas Roth 24K Gold Pure Luxury Lift & Firm Hydra-Gel Eye Patches. Her tea-drinking routine includes Helen Levi mugs and Twinings English Breakfast hot or iced (and she might have to give Claire’s tea rec Nunshen a shot, too). Emma also shares her love for Flonase and ARQ’s hugely cute underpants.

 

When you’ve got the author of This Time Tomorrow and the co-owner of Books Are Magic on the Zoom, you have to talk reads. Emma’s recent favorite is Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow by Gabrielle Zevin, especially for fans of The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier & Clay by Michael Chabon and The Interestings by Meg Wolitzer.

 

Do you have negotiation thoughts? Guest Thingies ideas? Share ‘em with us at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq. And for more recommendations, try out a Secret Menu membership.

 

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Jun 06, 2022
Crowd Favorite: Fighting Perfectionism and Remembering People’s Names
52:13

Revisiting a crowd fave from last year! Happy Memorial Day!

Has perfectionism jumped the shark? And how do we remember names when we start meeting new people again?! Clearly, we have a lot of questions (and some answers).

 If you like this, you’ll probably really like Secret Menu.

A couple books that made us ponder perfectionism: Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert, Yolk by Mary H.K. Choi, and Drop the Ball by Tiffany Dufu.

Related convos: our ambition ep, this episode of Jam Session, and the Wit & Delight posts here and here.

Come and get us at @athingortwohq, podcast@athingortwohq.com, and 833-632-5463! 

 

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May 30, 2022
"Um, What Watches?!" and Other Gifting Qs Answered
48:44

It’s that sneaky second gifting season of the year (dads, grads, retirements, anniversaries…you get it!), and we’re here to answer your calls for help. Ooh, speaking of calls: Want to leave us a voicemail at 833-632-5463 and share any thoughts/feelings that demand our podcasting attention?

 

If it’s time to gift someone a watch: Max Bill for Junghans and Baume & Mercier Classima are classics and about $1k. Uniform Wares has minimalist vibes and top out around $500. Check out Fewer Finer for some vintage options! We also recommend looking into a sporty/casual vintage watch from Casio or Seiko—Foundwell and eBay are great places to explore (this one, this one!). Also: Swatch does custom. If you’re looking for a watch for a little, Flik Flak’s still got it (see: their recent Hodinkee collaboration), and Parchie and Mini Kyomo are cute for kids, too. For true watch experts, turn to Hodinkee and Dimepiece.

 

For men turning 40 whose watch taste is too $$$: We love the idea of a signet ring, and Kathryn Bentley does great ones. We also recommend a record player (and personally endorse Plus Audio and Technics by Panasonic Direct Drive Player System via eBay). To add to the record collection, maybe gift a subscription to Vinyl Me Please or round-up albums that came out during their birth year. Related gift: fancy speakers like the ones by Oda. Nice luggage is also a good call—we love Want Les Essentiels, Porter-Yoshida, and classics like Rimowa, Tumi, and Calpak. For hobby gifts, how about a surfboard, a film camera from Photodom, ceramics classes (s/o to Artshack near us!), or pickleball gear from Recess or Nettie (on the topic of pickleball, this New York mag profile of Connor Pardoe). Last but not least, NORMALIZE GIVING MEN FLOWERS

 

For retirement gifts: Ask close coworkers to participate in something personal—maybe use Tribute or Padlet or go old-school and collect pictures and letters to make a scrapbook. We also love Storyworth! Or how’s about helping them get oriented with a new hobby: For the dad in our VM, maybe a Backroads Bike Tour or a Bianchi bike (find them and other snazzy bikes used on Bike Exchange). There’s also personal training: For a virtual option, check out Future (a good review). 

 

When someone’s having a baby but not their first one: Set the parent up with a massage (maybe an at-home one through Zeel) or food delivery from Ipsa, Three Owls, or The Culinistas. Treat them to a robe, slippers, a weighted blanket from Bearaby, or a bed tray (Chairish and 1stdibs for cool vintage ones and West Elm, and Offi for new ones) Or: Get something to keep the sibling busy! Non-messy craft projects like needlepoint/sewing kits (love Unwind Studio and LittleExplorersPlay) or a subscription to The Picture Book Club. For the new baby, what about a not-hand-me-down, home-from-the-hospital look from Makie or Lewis? Or something keepsake that second (and third and fourth) kids tend to get less of like a handknit blankie or a puzzle name stool from Damhorst Toys.

 

What to maybe, possibly ask for when you move into a new home: A return-address stamp from Paper Source or custom house numbers from House Number Lab or Casson. Outdoor stuff can be pricier than expected, so ask for plants from Fast Growing Trees, Plant Gem, and David Austin Roses, a local-nursery gift card, or gardening tools from The Floral Society or Terrain. What about a Solo Stove or a Barebones Living Portable 30" Fire Pit? Or a grill! We like the Weber Spirit II E-210 LP and the Lodge Sportsman’s Pro Cast Iron Grill. Get into composting with an indoor bin from Bamboozle. Entertaining stuff is a good call—think an Insalata Serving Bowl or platters from Conran Shop, Bitossi Home, Christian Lacroix, Farmhouse Pottery, vintage spongeware from The Six Bells, and vintage Limoges on Etsy. Ooh, and framing, c/o your local frame shop or Framebridge! Finally, stools: Artek, TipToe, Bed Bath & Beyond, Metal Lab, and ChezRai ones specifically. For other relevant recs, check out our Secret Menu wedding-registry guide.


Share your gift ideas or quandries with us at ​​833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq. For many more recommendations, try out a Secret Menu membership.

 

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May 23, 2022
What We Always, Always Pack and How to Travel with a Toddler
47:48

We’re dipping our toes back into going places, and there’s been a real learning curve, tell you what. We’re talking toddlers ‘n travel and unpacking our packing lessons. Now to just remember to put this stuff in a carry-on next time…

 

Our forever packing list: Birkenstock EVAs (the Madrid style especially) and ‘tween pants like the Outdoor Voices jogger, a multi-functional kanga/wrap/scarf, a chambray shirt, a Baggu tote, a flat clutch (Clare V. and Madewell make some good ones), an umbrella, the Jade Yoga Voyager mat, an OXO on-the-go lint brush, a paper fan, a Patagonia Down Sweater Hoody for the winter, a Patagonia Houdini in the summer, and bedside-comforts bag (featuring Zicam, Advil, Pepto Bismol, allergy meds, and Band-Aids).

 

For the journey, we love a Muji plane pillow, a separate cords pouch, packing cubes (rec Baggu, Muji, and Paravel!), a fold-up bag (great ones from Muji in-store and Paravel), and Comrad compression socks, possibly tucked into a Thingies-winning Lo & Sons The O.G. 2 carry-on.

 

Seven minutes of great content: the “Rachel Jacobson Tries to Act Like She's on Vacation All the Time” ep of The Best Advice Show.

 

Share your travel-planning tactics and queries at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq. And for more recommendations, try out a Secret Menu membership.

 

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May 16, 2022
Collier Meyerson’s Thingies (Hello, Femme Sandals!) and a Breast-Feeding PSA
42:08

How excited are we to talk Thingies with Collier Meyerson? So. Her most recent project Love Thy Neighbor is a podcast about a 1991 event known as the Crown Heights riot and what it says about about racism, antisemitism, and police violence here and now. Collier comes bearing books, outdoor couches, and alt uses for photo-printing sites. But first: a bit of breast-feeding intel.

 

Some further reading from our breastfeeding/weaning discussion: Joanna Goddard’s piece about her first episode of depression and how it happened right after abruptly quit breastfeeding (and be sure to read the comments!) and Meaghan O’Connell’s "Life on Planet Weaning" in The Cut (also Meaghan’s book And Now We Have Everything: On Motherhood Before I Was Ready, and, yes, her Twitter feed). Different but related: “It Feels Like Every Mom I Know Is Medicated” from Romper—plus Best C-Section Ever and Romper in general!—and, uh, Moody Bitches

 

Listen to Love Thy Neighbor, Collier’s five-episode podcast about the riots that took place over four days in 1991 in the Crown Heights neighborhood of Brooklyn. So good, so personal.

 

Collier’s Thingies include Dr. Scholl’s Molefoam Padding Strips for pesky bra wires, the Eliot Patio Loveseat from Target, and Bad Sex: Truth, Pleasure, and an Unfinished Revolution by Nona Willis Aronowitz (out in August). If you’re inspired by Collier’s femme sandal pursuit, here’s her Kyma pair (They arrived; she loves them.). She also recommends a Tosaryu hinoki incense and holder duo from Jinen for a housewarming gift and Artifact Uprising baby board books for gifts in general—not just for babies.

 

Do you have weaning/new-parent experience to share? Hit us up at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq. And for more recommendations, try out a Secret Menu membership.

 

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May 09, 2022
Records, Catalogs, and Business Hygiene—That's Right, It's a Grab Bag
43:02

Ready for a grab bag? ALWAYS, right? We surprise ourselves by endorsing record players, we bemoan how few catalogs are getting it right, and we share some coming-of-age retail thoughts. Oh, and we break down the term “business hygiene,” which doesn’t involve deodorant at all. 

 

Two record-player recs: Technics by Panasonic Direct Drive Player System (Craigslist is a good place to shop for this!) and The+Record Player for an all-in-one option. 

 

But how ‘bout the records themselves?! Check out a Vinyl Me, Please subscription—and maybe make vintage ones a vacation souvenir? Also, hello, Sesame Street Fever.

 

The catalogs we love right now are from Zingerman’s, David Austin, and Tracksmith. If you’re still nostalgic for dELiA*s (<< We’re sorry, but it has to be written like this!!!), click on over to deliascatalogs.tumblr.com, and follow the model Janelle Fishman on IG

 

What do our record collections neeeeeed? Tell us at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq. And for more recommendations, try out a Secret Menu membership.

 

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May 02, 2022
Guest Thingies We’ve Tried and Loved
44:44

We’ve road-tested a whole slew of the Thingies recent guests recommended, and we have much to share! Join us for this and some extremely entertaining voicemails responding to our question “What’s the sorority version of ‘praise and polish?’

From our episode with Rumaan Alam, Claire was inspired to listen to the audiobook version of Empire of Pain by Patrick Radden Keefe, and Erica has been using Fitbod (but only doing the exercises she wants to). 

Thanks to Harling Ross Anton’s recs, Erica’s gotten indigestion aid from Deglycyrrhizinated Licorice (DGL)

Claire took Kelly Wright’s suggestion and subscribed to Ronny’s Seltzer (which is a great supplement to her at-home Aarke seltzer maker). 

Erica’s been very into Jessica DeFino’s The Unpublishable newsletter, which Val Monroe raved about. A great installment to start with: Bella Hadid's Old Nose. Related content: The Glossy Podcast and the newsletter After School.

Whose Thingies picks do you want to hear? Let us know at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq. And for more recommendations, try out a Secret Menu membership.

 

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Apr 25, 2022
Our Best Party Tricks (Yes, for Actual Parties) and the TSA's Social-Media Prowess
51:08

It’s party (discussion) time! We get into games, snacks, drinks, desserts, and—but of course—tricks. Also, you know we love the airline culture and lifestyle beat: We have to dig into the NYT profile of Janis Burl, the brains and puns behind the incredible TSA Instagram account

 

Our fave party games include quizzes about the guest of honor, custom crossword puzzles Mölkky, and whatever this filling-up-a-cup-with-water game is called.

 

We have a lot of thoughts about the snacks to which we are accustomed, which include The Good Crisp Chips, Torres Chips, YuBuns, Yossy Arefi’s Vegan Onion Dip, Smitten Kitchen Corn Salad, Corn Salad with Feta and Walnuts from Real Simple, Fromage Fort from Julia Turshen’s Small Victories cookbook, Cacio E Pepe Kale Salad from Lemon, Love & Olive Oil cookbook. Also: Don’t sleep on cute cocktail toothpicks and vintage oyster/relish forks—and Sophia Roe’s advice on how to do a crudite situation.

 

For dessert, we love an ice cream cake, Blueberry Cornflake Crisp from Bill Clark’s fantastic A Piece of Cake newsletter, Strawberry Rhubarb Crisp from Barefoot Contessa, Ipsa frozen cookies, Levain frozen cookies, Magnolia Bakery Banana Pudding, and Jeni’s Street Treats.

 

When it comes to drinks, how about a big batch Palomas, Bloody Marys with McClure’s or Stonewall Kitchen mix, non-alcoholic Ghia or De Soi, and/or Lunar hard seltzer?

 

Share your favorite party tricks with us at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq. For more recs, sign up for our Secret Menu.

 

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Apr 18, 2022
Thingies with Laura Stylez (an Icon!!) and Consuming Peripheral Content
48:59

Time for another Thingies ep with a dream guest: We’re graced by Laura Stylez, co-host of the best radio show in all the land, Ebro in the Morning. We talk music, hangover cures, and baby toys—you know how we like a good mix.

 

Laura’s Thingies: Mombella Mimi Mushroom teether, which both little ones and their parents love, and the ultimate, travel-friendly hangover cure: coconut oil, turmeric, and activated charcoal, all in pill form. On the music front, Rihanna's Anti, Beyonce’s Lemonade and Beyoncé, Kelis's everything, and Lil’ Kim's Hard Core. Laura also recommends God Save the Queens: The Essential History of Women in Hip-Hop by Kathy Iandoli (who also wrote Baby Girl: Better Known as Aaliyah, and Lil’ Kim: The Queen Bee, which is out 2024) and My Voice: A Memoir by Angie Martinez. 

 

Your notes on the TV shows  you're consuming without actually watching them, please!! Get us at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq. And for more recommendations, try out a Secret Menu membership.

 

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Apr 11, 2022
Our Wedding Rundowns and One Very Special Dinner
49:12

Per a listener request—which: We welcome them!—we’re talking about weddings. Specifically, our weddings, from our favorite and least favorite parts of the planning process to how it all went down day-of. Plus: a stand-out dining experience (two, if we’re rounding up).

 

Check out Dept of Culture Brooklyn for excellent Nigerian food and the opportunity to talk to strangers! Also, when in Joshua Tree: La Copine.

 

If you’re considering an NYC City Hall wedding, Fox Fodder Farm has the flowers

 

If you have wedding questions ‘n thoughts to share, let us know at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq. For more recs, sign up for Secret Menu.

 

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Apr 04, 2022
Our Buying-Things Update
54:30

For your consideration, we’re sharing some thoughts about buying things, including a letter of recommendation for shopping in person and takes on sourcing made-in-America products, participating in One Fit February, and acquiring things while traveling. If you have tactics or conundrums, we want to hear them: 833-632-5463!

 

If you’re interested in the idea of One Fit February (or the less alliterative One Fit April), score yourself some cool points and check out this installment of the Blackbird Spyplane’s newsletter by Jonah Weiner.

 

A rundown of some cool made-in-America brands here, and, if you’re looking for something specific, check out stillmadeinusa.com.

 

A couple standout MiA brands include the only whisk manufacturers in the U.S., Best Manufacturers based in Portland, Oregon, (more on them), and Libman mops and brooms based in Arcola, Illinois, since 1896 (the mayor Jesus Garza's story also!).  

 

Do you have opinions about buying things? Share them with us at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq.

 

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Mar 28, 2022
Thingies and “Unmentionables” with Mia Clarke and Eden Laurin of Nyssa
43:32
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This ~bonus Thursday ep~ is brought to you by the heroes at Nyssa, a company providing products that support women through the most transformative times of life, from puberty to post-menopause. (Hit their site and use the code ATHINGORTWO for 15% off everything, including absolutely ideal postpartum gifts for a friend who had no idea she might need this stuff!) We’re diving into a discussion of “unmentionables” and, duh, Thingies with two of Nyssa’s charming and game-changing cofounders Mia Clarke and Eden Laurin. Oh, and just a quick note: Miscarriage and pregnancy loss come up at the end, in case those are topics  you want to skip today. 

 

The one that started it all: Nyssa FourthWear Postpartum Recovery Underwear.

 

Mia and Eden’s Thingies: Betty’s Co., which kicks off women’s healthcare at a young age, Nyssa VieWear Period Comfort Underwear and Nyssa VieVision Between Legs Mirror, Dame (see also: “Sexual Wellness Brand Dame Settles Lawsuit With MTA, Debuts First Subway Campaign” from Adweek), the book Designing Motherhood by Michelle Millar Fisher and Amber Winick that features the story of Margaret Crane (who invented the first pregancy test!), the menopause-care hub Elektra Health, "My Miscarriage, in Photos" by Becca Leitman with photographs by Casey Kelbaugh for The Cut.

 

How great is this free, downloadable teen period guide-slash-checklist?!

 

Share your Thingies at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq. If you’re looking for more recommendations and more fun, a Secret Menu membership is for you.

 

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Mar 24, 2022
Even More Home Trends and the JLo Content That’s Luring Us In
45:58

Why haven’t we been talking about JLo more here? Well, we’re about to remedy that—and fill ya in on more, more, more design trends that are speaking to us right now.

 

The women artist biographies/books Claire will be picking up include Ninth Street Women: Lee Krasner, Elaine de Kooning, Grace Hartigan, Joan Mitchell, and Helen Frankenthaler: Five PaAnne Truittinters and the Movement by Mary Gabriel, Daybook: The Journal of an Artist by Anne Truitt, and Everything She Touched: The Life of Ruth Asawa by Marilyn Chase.

 

If you’re also looking to do a JLo deep-dive, we recommend reading How to Fake It in Hollywood by Ava Wilder, Funny You Should Ask by Elissa Sussman, the story of the full-page ad Ben took out back when, Vulture’s Peoria, Illinois, analysis re: Marry Me, and this GQ article about THE dress. Also, listen to Just Like Us: The Tabloids that Changed America hosted by Clare Malone and watch the music video that Ben made to “On My Way To You” for Jen for Valentine’s Day.

 

In the home-design realm, some inspiration comes from two incredible New Orleans hotels, Hotel St. Vincent and Hotel Peter and Paul

 

Fellow lovers of yellow furniture should bask in Billy Cotton space for Grace Morton, Sophie Ashby’s giant yellow velvet couch, and this kid’s room

 

If you’re thinking of doing some furniture-painting on your own (inspiration: Matilda Goad’s London home!), see Erin Boyle of Reading My Tea Leaves make-over a dresser on IG and read her guides for refreshing trim and kitchen cabinets

 

Wood paneling—SO COOL. See: Sound View Hotel, ​​Les Arcs ski resort, Jane Hallworth for Tinder co-founder Sean Rad and his Wife Lizzie Grover Rad, and Wall for Apricots

 

On the Swedish tile stove front, we love painter Mary Nelson Sinclair’s dining room, Victor Hugo’s fireplace, Lindholm Kakelugnar, and this explainer from Messy Nessy Chic.

 

Your favorite niche JLo stories need an audience! Share ‘em at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq.

 

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Mar 21, 2022
Guest Thingies with Véronique Hyland and, Ugh, Cooking
01:05:30

Ooh, what a joy it is to talk Thingies with Véronique Hyland, the fashion features director at Elle who coined the term millennial pink and has a brilliant new book, Dress Code: Unlocking Fashion from the New Look to Millennial Pink, that checks so many boxes for us. But first, can we discuss cooking motivation…or lack thereof?

 

A smattering of dinner-making inspo if you need some too: 1) Brothy soup recipes—vegetarian lemon rice soup, beans and greens soup with harissa, and Helen Rosner’s Roberto specifically 2) The Magic of Tinned Fish: Elevate Your Cooking with Canned Anchovies, Sardines, Mackerel, Crab, and Other Amazing Seafood by Chris McDade 3) @glucosegoddess.

 

Véronique’s Thingies, coming through! Joe Iconis & Family, beach noir films + TV shows (including but not limited to Inherent Vice, Night Moves, Cutter’s Way, Veronica Mars, Terriers, and Moonlighting), and entertainment podcasts like I Saw What You Did, Junk Filter, and Nostalgia Trap. Key Twitter follows: @the_80s_man and this one account that recaps Paul Schrader’s Facebook posts. Her music recs: atmospheric YouTube videos (see: Music in an Empty Mall) and Mother Earth’s Plantasia. And when it comes to fashion, she needs you to know about Dauphinette by Olivia Cheng—amazing coats and other incredibleness also.

You can find Véronique at @niquepeeks veroniquehyland.com, and, of course, in the pages of Dress Code: Unlocking Fashion from the New Look to Millennial Pink

 

Book events—something we love and have missed! See Véronique in conversation with Robin Givhan in D.C. on March 19 and chatting it up with Marisa Meltzer in NYC on March 25.

 

Share your Thingies at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq.

 

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Mar 14, 2022
How We're Thinking About Creativity and Shoeless Households
53:11

It’s time for an update on how we’re doing with our (non-work-related) creative practices, and—hey, while we’re at it—we’ll go ahead and share some thoughts on what it's like to live in a shoe household vs. a shoeless one. 

 

Claire’s creative resources: Wendy MacNaughton’s DrawTogether podcast, The Artist's Way (plus this New Yorker interview with the author Julia Cameron), and Four Thousand Weeks: Time Management for Mortals by Oliver Burkeman.

 

Erica’s creative resources: Jami Attenberg’s #1000wordsofsummer and Refuse to Be Done: How to Write and Rewrite a Novel in Three Drafts by Matt Bell.

 

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Mar 10, 2022
Beauty Stuff We're Loving—Plus Themed Entertainment
40:46

Introducing an ode to the beauty products and concepts we’ve been very into. Plus! The odd joy of creating entertainment syllabi to curb streaming (and reading) indecision.

 

If you’re also looking to take a Kirsten Dunst deep-dive, you’re gonna want to read this New Yorker piece.

 

The beauty products we’re all about: Escentric Molecules Molecule 01, Freck Cheekslime in Fielding, Westman Atelier Baby Cheeks Blush Stick in Petal, Trish McEvoy Long-Wear Lipliner in Barely Nude, Charlotte Tilbury Lip Cheat in Iconic Nude, Jenni Kayne Oak Essentials Cleansing Balm, Clinique’s Take the Day off Cleansing Balm, and Shani Darden Retinol Reform

 

And if you’re looking to learn more about dry skin vs. dehydrated skin, dig into this Byrdie article

 

Let’s not forget to acknowledge accidental plopping after a Sunday-night shower.

 

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Feb 28, 2022
Author Rumaan Alam's Thingies and the Cross-Body Phone
01:01:28

This week, we muse on cross-body phone holders—time will tell if the trend wins us over—and talk Thingies with Rumaan Alam, author of Leave the World Behind, That Kind of Mother, and Rich and Pretty…books that are Thingies in their own right.  

 

His Thingies: The Fitbod app, audiobooks of dad books via Libro.fm, uniform dressing, Cate Le Bon, and some real page-turners including Mouth to Mouth by Antoine Wilson, Luster by Raven Leilani, Last Resort by Andrew Lipstein, and Mrs. Palfrey at the Claremont by Elizabeth Taylor

 

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Feb 21, 2022
The Home Trends That Have Us Wanting to Redo a Room
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Recording live from a frictionless day, we’re talking all about the home trends that we’ve been loving right now, from Murano glass to canned-tomato decor.

 

If you’re also having a Murano glass moment, check out this NYT article and this YouTube video showing the process and then dig into some of our favorites in the Murano and Murano-inspired world: Sogni Di Cristallo, Ichendorf Milano, LagunaB, Susan Alexandra, Edie Parker Flower, Face Vessel by Degen, Casa Celva, and Serena Confalonieri

 

For fans of marble everything, No One Alike goes hard at the decor, Concrete Cat makes epic lazy susans, Voutsa x Lambert McGuire Design has incredible wallpaper, and if you’re ever in Italy, Il Papiro in Florence makes incredible marbled paper goods as does Conti Borbone in Milan.

 

For floral motifs and more Italian vibes, check out Lisa Corti, Miho, and Issimo

 

For turning your space into a GD garden, we love Bill Rebholz’s canned tomato print, Erin Jang’s asian pear print, and the oh-so-classic Enzo Mari apple print. Nonna’s Grocer carries some hyper-real citrus candles, and Handmade Soap Emporium has outrageous grape soaps. And we can’t talk about produce decor without mentioning Bordallo Pinheiro's cabbage dishes (also: the pepper storage box and the cabbage lamp).

 

For some magical hand-painted walls and furniture, check out the hotel Mesón Hidalgo in San Miguel de Allende, this Jake Arnold dining room, Beata Heuman kid’s room and this bar in another Beata Heuman project, and these bedside tables from Studio Ashby.

 

For some lots more design inspo, check out Annamarie Tendler’s profile in Harper’s Bazaar, Jayna Maleri’s home tour in Domino, Maire Coulson’s house in Architectural Digest, Brett Heyman’s home tour in Domino, Margherita Missoni home tour in Architectural Digest, and Beata Heuman’s mom’s house

 

Let us know what home stuff you’re into (or any glass-blowing class experience you have!) at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq.


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Feb 17, 2022
Val Monroe’s Thingies and the Weirdness of Signatures
56:49

Let’s talk about signing your name (hello, strange custom) and dig into Val Monroe’s Thingies! This genius woman—the former beauty director of O, The Oprah Magazine—writes the extremely thoughtful and epically named newsletter How Not to F*ck Up Your Face, and we’re fairly obsessed.

 

Sign up for Val’s newsletter at valeriemonroe.substack.com immediately. This is the moving installment on Facetiming with her granddaughter.

 

Val had a bunch of reading (and audiobook-listening) recommendations: the Wolf Hall trilogy by Hilary Mantel, How to Change Your Mind by Michael Pollan, Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl, Astrophysics for People in a Hurry by Neil deGrasse Tyson, Tom Stoppard: A Life by Hermione Lee, Mike Nichols: A Life by Mark Harris (see also: Pictures at a Revolution: Five Movies and the Birth of the New Hollywood by Mark Harris and Rewrites: A Memoir by Neil Simon), The News Sorority by Sheila Weller, The Overstory by Richard Powers, The Hare with Amber Eyes by Edmund de Waal, and All the Light We Cannot See by Anthony Doerr.

 

For a companion newsletter to Val’s, subscribe to Jessica DeFino’s The Unpublishable

 

Beauty-ish things Val raves about: her aminolevulinic acid treatment experience, Colorescience Sunforgettable Total Protection Brush-On Shield SPF 50, the French perfumer Francis Kurkdjian, Laura Geller Baked Foundation, and Tocca Florence Laundry Delicate.

 

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Feb 14, 2022
Our Best Shopping Memories—and Our (Many) Thoughts on Robes
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This week, we’re getting wrapped up in a conversation about robes, the practice of towel time, and our favorite shopping memories featuring dated (but iconic!) tie skirts and timeless wrap dresses. 

 

Some of the robes we love, for your lounging pleasure and leisure: Parachute’s Classic Turkish Cotton Robe, Skin’s Sierra Robe and Basic Double Layer Wrap Robe, Eberjey’s Rosalia Robe and Alpine Chic Super Sherpa Robe, and all the fun ones Block Shop and Print Fresh make. And how ‘bout this wings + horns Ace take?

 

Share your robe and towel-time rituals! 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq.

 

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Feb 10, 2022
Grappling with Planning and Revisiting Nostalgic Scents
43:11

Get ready to take a trip down (your nose’s) memory lane because we’re talking about the scents of our youth. Oh, and: We’re making a plan to prevent contingency-planning from becoming a full-blown hobby.

 

Scent-sational reading: this 1988 New York Times article, written during the dawn of the age of the perfume ad, the book The End of Fashion by Teri Agins on how perfume and stockings became luxury-brand cash cows, and this BBC article about the heyday of celebrity fragrances. 

 

Scentmatchers.com—go for the URL, stay for the extensive dropdown menu. 

 

Check out our near-obsession Four Thousand Weeks by Oliver Burkeman for a welcome perspective on time-management. 

 

Did you have a signature scent? Is there some discontinued fragrance you’re sniffing around for? We need to know—@athingortwohq, podcast@athingortwohq.com, and 833-632-5463! 

 

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Feb 07, 2022
Content We Feel Great About Right Now
39:55
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We’re in need of things to enjoy—no, relish: Bring on the comfort content! Please! If you have recs, share ‘em with us at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq.

 

Read more about CUNY’s anonymous cash donor in the New York Times.

 

Check out Lewis Miller’s Flower Flash book, his Instagram, all of it.

 

To watch All That Jazz (not on a Delta flight), it’s all about the Criterion Collection.

 

Listen to  Once Upon a Time…at Bennington College podcast for all the hot 1980s undergrad goss about literary icons. (Check out the oral history that inspired the podcast, too.)

 

Everything Mindy Kailing touches is gold, and we’re especially sweating The Sex Lives of College Girls (what a name).


As for things we’re excited for in the future? Season 2 of Starstruck, Season 2 of White Lotus, and a Marcel the Shell with Shoes On movie!

 

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Jan 31, 2022
Guest Thingies with Harling Ross Anton and “Everything Is Nice in Here”
55:30

This week, we talk Thingies with the writer, creative consultant, and theorist behind the 3 p.m. outfit expiration, Harling Ross Anton. She also breaks down her rubric for what makes a good recommendation. All this to say: Everything is nice in here.

 

Harling’s Thingies! Fleece-lined black tights (all of them, really), Merit's The Minimalist Perfecting Complexion Foundation and Concealer Stick (Harling uses the shade bisque.), Chinya’s milk frother, Mighty Sesame Co.’s Tahini in a Squeeze Bottle, a made-just-for-her button-down shirt from Chava, DGL licorice extract for heartburn, D-Mannose for UTIs, and fantasy novels like A Court of Thorns and Roses.

 

Plz, plz follow Harling for so many more recs! She’s extremely good at them.

 

Share your favorite thingies at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq.

 

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Jan 24, 2022
The It’s Not That Deep Woman, Acknowledgement Sections, and Next-Lev Work Hacks
38:53

It’s the first episode we’re recording in 2022, and we have THOUGHTS! TO! SHARE! We discuss the It’s Not That Deep archetype, the wackiest (slash most ingenious)  “work smarter and not harder” moments, and acknowledgement sections—unskippable, if you ask us.

 

Related to the It’s Not That Deep mentality: Tune into our perfectionism ep (and maybe pick up Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert, too.).

 

Two essays on the acknowledgment section: "With a Little Help From Their Friends (and Agents and Librarians and Fact-Checkers ...)" by Jennifer Senior and "Against Acknowledgments" by Sam Sacks.

 

One of our favorite acknowledgement sections of late was from Black Buck—and don’t worry, we asked the author Mateo Askaripour about it when we interviewed him.

 

Have thoughts (or a story about an extreme case of working smarter and not harder)? We want to hear them at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq!

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Jan 17, 2022
Guest Thingies with Kelly Wright of Yuns and Romance Reads Ya Need
01:02:40

If you need a Week Two 2022 pick-me-up, how about an all-consuming romance novel and some Thingies from our guest Kelly Wright, founder of the internet’s coolest hardware store, Yuns

 

For romance novels featuring autistic leads, pick up The Kiss Quotient, The Bride Test, and The Heart Principle by Helen Hoang (<< someone profile this woman!)! For a straight romance by a queer couple, read The View Was Exhausting by Mikaella Clements and Onjuli Datta. For one that features our beloved University of Chicago, check out People We Meet on Vacation by Emily Henry (and also her books Beach Read and Book Lovers, which is out in May). And for something Harry Styles fanfic–adjacent, grab If This Gets Out by Sophie Gonzales and Cale Dietrich. 

 

If you want to *listen* to your next romance, check out Bone, Marry, Bury this February from Rachael King and Becca Freeman of RomComPods.

 

Time for Kelly’s Thingies! Edith’s Iced Cafe, Ronny’s Seltzer, Bonk Planners, "The Untold Story of Sushi in America" via The New York Times, Viennetta, and Oda Speakers.  

 

As for Kelly’s DIY advice, her favorite tool at the moment is a pair of slip joint pliers, and she also thinks a hammer, a Phillips-head screwdriver, a flathead screwdriver, and a tape measure should be in your toolbox regardless of experience (all available at helloyuns.com, duh).

 

Are there Thingies you're dying to share? Hit us at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq. 

 

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Jan 10, 2022
Obligation, People-Pleasing, and Pillows (Yes, Pillows)
53:33

This episode is all about the pressures we feel on our lives and our time (and, to a lesser extent, our necks and our tailbones). Don’t sleep on this one, is what we’re saying.

 

Live that ComfiLife! Side-sleep with a Hullo pillow!

 

The “Things We Want to Leave Behind and How to Start a Running Routine” ep we reference.

 

The Four Tendencies by Gretchen Rubin—there’s also a quiz for that

 

A handful of reads related to parenting (and, sigh, house work): All Joy and No Fun by Jennifer Senior, Year of Yes by Shonda Rhimes, Drop the Ball by Tiffany Dufu, and More Work For Mother by Ruth Schwartz Cowan.

 

An enthusiastic endorsement of Four Thousand Weeks: Time Management for Mortals by Oliver Burkeman.

 

Dirt’s “The season of tabs” newsletter by Alex Aciman. WE RELATE.

 

"The Myth of the Productive Commute" installment of Anne Helen Petersen’s Culture Study newsletter.

 

Talking about protecting your time with Mimi O Chun and “what happens if you don’t?” with Caroline Moss.

 

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Dec 20, 2021
Thingies and Dumplings: a Delicious Combination
46:45

We’re steaming (and pan-frying!) a lot of frozen dumplings, and we’re recommending a lot of Thingies. Come along with us, huh?

 

But first: latke cookies

 

A dumplings-as-an-aesthetic episode of this very podcast.

 

Frozen dumplings we’re into: Fly by Jing and Nom Wah.

 

Stunning rainbow dumplings we’re into: Sandita’s rainbow dumplings.

 

Three things that make a big difference when cooking up dumplings at home: a bamboo steamer, Chinkiang black vinegar, and these Wing on Wo soup spoons. Another helpful resource: Lucky Peach Presents 101 Easy Asian Recipes.

 

Ok, Thingies!! Kevyn Aucoin Beauty The Volume Mascara (Claire) and Lily Lolo Natural Vegan Mascara (Erica), Saint Olio cleaner (plus hand sanitizer), Wolford tights (start with Velvet De Luxe 50 or 66), Zicam lozenges, Maldon salt (see: this Bon App article), Kewpie Deep-Roasted Sesame Dressing, Lo & Sons The O.G. 2 carry-on (plus a charming video), Kinto kids’ dishes, and Trader Joe’s Roasted & Salted Marcona Almonds with Rosemary.

 

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Dec 13, 2021
Holidays and Giving with Caroline Moss (and the New Illustrated Us!)
56:40

Caroline Moss, host of the podcast Gee Thanks, Just Bought It!, brings joy to everything she does, and we’re jazzed to ride her wave of holiday-giving enthusiasm straight through December and into 2022. Another thing we’re taking into next year is our new mantra: What happens if you don’t?

 

Julie Houts did the wonderful new illustration of us ya see in our podcast art! You’ve gotta check out her Instagram! Ooh, and shop her prints!

 

Related content: Erica waiting for Claire in fitting rooms.

 

If you don’t listen to Caroline’s podcast Gee Thanks, Just Bought It! yet, you’re in for a treat. Our Black Friday ep with her could be a good starting point. Don’t sleep on her gift guides either—or the book she co-wrote Hey Ladies!: The Story of 8 Best Friends, 1 Year, and Way, Way Too Many Emails.

 

Caroline’s go-to Hallmark holiday movie: The Christmas List.

 

A few holiday giving initiatives Caroline supports and you can too (like, this year—not at all too late!): Operation Santa (there’s a doc, Dear Santa, about it, even) and Transanta.

 

Vulture on the Christmas ep of Ted Lasso.

 

Re: Venmo and taxes, this Forbes piece.

 

“What Mutual Aid Can Do During a Pandemic” by Jia Tolentino for The New Yorker.

 

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Dec 06, 2021
BECs, Celebrities Reading Memoirs, and Other Things We Love Talking About
54:43

What an episode we have in store! We’re going deep on some of our favorite recent discoveries from our Monday newsletter—which: If you aren’t signed up for that thing, now's your chance to fix that.

 

The usefulness of the term bitch eating crackers (BEC) (for context: Someecards).

 

Celebrity memoirs as audiobooks: Inside Out by Demi Moore, Acid for the Children by Flea, and Yearbook by Seth Rogen (see also: this profile by Jonah Weiner for NYT Magazine). Next up: My Life So Far by Jane Fonda, Faithfull by Marianne Faithful The Last Black Unicorn by Tiffany Haddish. Oh, and: the podcast Celebrity Book Club with Steven & Lily. Also: Please read Open by Andre Agassi and J.R. Moehringer!

 

Important breaking news: There is now Spelling Bee merch.   

 

Let’s hear Claire’s QVC pitch for the Pattern mist spray bottle!! Somewhat related: Mario Badescu Facial Spray with Aloe, Herbs and Rosewater...as a hair product?

 

Erica’s 11 a.m. tea go-to: Soul Chai. Another (slightly sweetened rec): Dona.

 

A workspace-changing Philips Hue light strip. You may also like: Gorilla mounting tape, Storage Theory Power Perch, and the Pretty Handy Girl video for changing your doorknobs.

 

Jewelry renovation with Spur = talk about amazing.

 

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Control your coffee and tea temp with Ember. It’s 10% off for first-time purchasers with our link.

Snuggle up with Printfresh’s perfect-for-gifting sleepwear—and get 15% off your first order with the code ATHINGORTWO.

Score Ana Luisa jewelry during their biggest sale of the year—60% off on the second item you purchase with our link. 

YAY.

 

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Nov 29, 2021
Rolling Calls and a Round of Guest Thingies with David Cho
54:26

You know what we love? When someone makes a thing we’re really desparate to use. Which means we can’t wait for the launch of Postcard, a tool to help us share our travel recommendations in an intuitive and aesthetically pleasing way. We’ll let David Cho tell ya all about it...and share his Thingies. That’s right: a guest Thingies ep. Tell us how you feel about that??


Two relevant celebrity memoirs: Why Not Me? by Mindy Kaling and Yearbook by Seth Rogen.

 

Oh, the joy of a website called findcelebrityjobs.com.

 

Be Postcard guinea pigs! Make some lists! Send them to us!

 

David’s Thingies! Orion Turtle Chips Choco Churros Flavor (and Sweet Corn if you’re us), Rose Delights, therapy!!!, Golden Fertile Eggs, Sun Ha Jang in L.A., and “A Home Movies Thanksgiving Special with Alison Roman” (also her spring chicken with crispy leeks recipe).

 

Do you have Thingies noms? Hit us at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq.

 

For so many more of our favorites, get yourself a Secret Menu subscription.

 

Scoop up Ana Luisa jewelry during their biggest sale of the year. 

Keep that coffee and tea at the perfect temp with Ember. It’s 10% off for first-time purchasers with our link.

Grab tickets for Redeeming Love and get your romance-movie fix.

Snag Printfresh’s perfect-for-gifting sleepwear—and get 15% off your first order with the code ATHINGORTWO.

YAY.

 

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Nov 22, 2021
Gift Guide Round 3: Siblings, Teens, Co-Workers, Friends, and Grandparents!
58:15

Gift Guide Round 3: Siblings, Teens, Co-Workers, Friends, and Grandparents!

 

Our third gift guide ep already?! We know. There’s so much ahead—and behind if you missed part 1 and part 2—but if you’re still on the present hunt, subscribe to Secret Menu for many more holiday-shopping thoughts ‘n feelings.

 

Kids and Teens!

 

Almost 14 year old girl Brooklyn kid

 

Angsty teenage nephews who already have everything

 

10 year old niece who is obsessed with Japan (Japan trip isn't in the budget)

 

Nephews/Godsons who already have so much stuff. They are 6 months (read: only interested in food but not really able to eat it) and 4.  The 4 year old loves trucks, singing, Toy Story, and learning about everything. but he has all of the things! While I think donations are cool, I'm not really interested in that for a four year old who won't understand that i didn't forget to give him a gift. 

 

Brothers and Brothers-in-Law!

 

My 35 yo brother who exclusively wears shirts from regattas, has horrible taste in women

 

Brother who's living #vanlife

 

Sisters and Sisters-in-Law!

 

Sister - has main character energy. Runs an apple cider vin business. Into funky style.

 

My sister: hyper-intellectual, single, gay, social justice dr., autoimmune issues so stuck home.

 

Sister in law who is mostly great and has very good taste but veryyy self absorbed, always has long term relationships but then doesn't commit because she doesn't believe in compromise, likes good food wine coffee, and also clothes (everlane/& other stories), likes to be luxe but in a slightly (not completely) subdued way.

 

My fiance's family does a gift exchange with the extended family with the idea that you can get a bigger/better gift for the one person instead of having to buy something smaller for everyone. I got assigned his cool cousin who lives in NYC.  She's in her late 30's, got married 2 years ago, no kids, and she's a really successful lawyer.  We only see her so often and she's usually on her computer keeping up with work when we do see her, so I don't have a great idea of her interests...besides they have a tiny dog that they love.  I always love an experience gift for people, def something there with NYC?  One other possibility is my fiance got her older sister in the gift exchange, so there's a possibility that we could do something that the both of them could enjoy together?  Her sister lives in a Philly suburb and has a family with 2 kids so different point of life.

 

Aunts, Uncles, Grandparents, and Other Adults You Know!

 

Next door neighbor, 94 year old Italian woman who loves the Pope and New England sports

 

Older curmudgeonly uncle with lots of stories and jokes. Cooks but scorns fancy equipment. 

 

My smart feminist ex-social worker grandma who likes G&Ts and is a hoarder

 

Friends!

 

29 y/o BFF who just got dumped and fired, she loves Rebecca Solnit, POOG, and yoga

 

Best friend! loves old furniture and travel and old churches and beauty, less than $100

 

Co-Workers and Bosses!

 

My boss who is a die hard AKA sorority sister (same as Kamala Harris), v much part of the Bey-hive, and wears all of the hats (boss, mentor, counselor, mom, wife).

 

People I work with - design studio so they all already have access to nice things. Our team is small enough that the vibe is to give everyone something? Under $40

 

For last year’s gift guides, head here and here.

 

What are your last-minute gifting go-tos? We wanna know at 833-632-5463 and @athingortwohq!

 

Download the Zocdoc app—it’s free!—and book that doctor’s appointment you’ve been putting off.

Explore all of our favorite gift picks at MoMA Design Store—so much amazing stuff, and it’s 10% of now through November 24 with the code ATHINGORTWO online or in store.

Try professional counseling with BetterHelp—10% off your first month with our link.

Gift the coffee- and tea-drinkers in your life Ember. It’s 10% off for first-time purchasers with our link.

YAY.

 

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Nov 15, 2021
Gift Guide Round 2: Extra Design-y Edition, with MoMA Design Store!
43:49

If you just CAN’T with the gifting stress, drama, and intrigue this year and are looking to do some one-stop shopping, well, welcome to our second gift guide of the season, in partnership with the glorious, aesthetically driven team over at MoMA Design Store. Use the code ATHINGORTWO online or in store for 10% off your purchase now through November 24 (fine print below)—and know that every purchase supports the museum's collection and education programs. Talk about a GWP!

 

Heyo: Dig into all of our MoMA Design Store gifting picks.

 

Healthcare practitioners who I see regularly but don't know on a personal level

 

My new colleagues who I want to love me. Something cheap, cute, and maybe useful.

 

I have to buy gifts for approximately eight thousand kids.  Is there anything that I could buy that all of them would like?  They are various ages between 0-10 years old.

 

Dating for 3 mo by the time xmas is here. Wants to ride tandem bike. Dairy & nut free.

 

My husband who loves fancy Japanese mugs, Swedish menswear, and guitar pedals

 

 

90 year old Grandma who lives in Scottsdale. She loves golf, crafting, playing cards, shopping, and hot weather. She has a condo full of tons of stuff - she collects trinkets and has multiple collections of China, glassware, etc. so I avoid giving her something that's just an item that will sit on a shelf. She is sometimes lonely and really likes activities but is easily intimidated by things that seem too hard. I gave her a 500 piece puzzle last year and at first she thought she could never do it but she ended up finishing it and got it framed. She's the absolute cutest but also very set in her ways. I like to give her something that can be consumed or created so I don't add to clutter but she is very thrifty as a depression era woman and will savor things forever. Sometimes things like lotions or candles never end up getting used. She also loves jewlery and clothing. She walks to church every day in a sensible heel.

 

65+ crowd that have everything! Bring in the MOMA recs!

 

My brother and his stylist boyfriend who has intimidatingly good taste

 

FIL loves smoking meats, nice wine, and mansplaining the weather.

 

Dad who loves gadgets and has a home theatre with a projector

 

MIL likes soft things, needs for nothing

 

My mother who likes luxe things but doesn't like it when we overspend.

 

My veteran sister who only wears zip off pants & carves wood in her free time. 

 

13-year old girl who's very creative and into music 

 

The code ATHINGORTWO gets you 10% off your purchase online or in store now through November 24, 2021. The fine print: Cannot be combined with membership discount or other offers. Not valid on the purchase of memberships, past purchases, and select products. Redeemable at store.moma.org and at US MoMA Design Store locations. 

 

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Nov 11, 2021
Gift Guide Round 1: Moms, Dads, and Significant (or Formerly Significant) Others
55:38

Gift Guide Round 1: Moms, Dads, and Significant (or Formerly Significant) Others

 

It’s gift-guide season around these parts, and here we are with the first of three—three!—installments to help you along with the hardest-to-shop-for people in your life (hopefully). If you need more ideas, subscribing to Secret Menu might be just the answer.

 

Moms and Mothers-in-Law!

 

Single mom by choice to an amazing little girl. Since it's just the two of us and she's a toddler, I need to help her buy her a gift for me. I realize that buying a gift for one's self shouldn't be difficult but I'm saving to buy us a condo and this will be my one quality and/or impractical spend for the foreseeable future. So I want to make it count and I'd love your help. I am willing to spend up to $400.00. I appreciate smart function in design and I have lost zero baby weight, so anything that involves sizing has the potential to make me cry, which feels like it would defeat the purpose. I work about 75 hours a week and am currently doing so remotely. Would love to hear your thoughts. Thanks!

 

76 yo mom, super practical, can't throw stuff away, just lost her husband of 60+ years.

 

My new step mom who has very good taste and loves thrifting

 

Frumpy MIL that you can't stand

 

My southern mom who thinks NYC made me snobby 

 

Dads and Fathers-in-Law!

 

My dad! A very intelligent man. Passionate about baseball but has season tickets. Very covid cautious. Has read all books. Doesn't drink. Isn't handy (no tools). Plays scrabble and has all the boards, no other games. Very fashion apathetic and I always get him clothes. Likes to bike but has a very nice bike and all accessories. Has snow shovel service. Really only cares about his grandkids but spends tons of time with them. Still works (lawyer) and tends to buy anything he needs which is very little! Always a conumdrum.

 

My dad! Buys himself everything he needs, likes rock and roll bios and mushrooming. and wine!

 

FIL: widower, engineer, spotless home, not into design, kinda into fitness & cooking

 

Romantic Partners (and Former Ones)!

 

A NFT-obsessed new dad who wants to be a lumberjack but actually buys Aimee Leon Dore

 

I need help with my 49-year-old, male, partner. He's a commercial architect, but is super judgey about architect stuff. He constantly scrolls Zillow and vintage car sites. He drinks bourbon, but doesn't want whisky stones and we have an excellent set of glasses. He likes luxury, but won't wear a logo ever. He loves art - folk, sculpture, modern (sometimes the weirder the better) and he created about half the pieces in our house. We live in Atlanta, watch garbage TV and eat/cook good food. Help!

 

Old soul male significant other who manages to find all the wilderness in nyc (birding in prospect park, surfing in the rockaways) in his 20s.


Girlfriend who is super Catholic but also super woo and into crystals, energy, etc.

My ex husband who doesn't deserve a gift but we share a daughter together 

  • Something for them to do together—tickets to a basketball game or a museum, a video game, etc.

 

A friend who I had a thing with (years ago) and has a jealous girlfriend

 

For last year’s gift guides, head here and here.

 

Keep those VMs and DMs coming at 833-632-5463 and @athingortwohq!

 

Shop all of our favorite gift picks at MoMA Design Store—so much stunning stuff, and it’s 10% of now through November 24 with the code ATHINGORTWO online or in store.

Escape with Dipsea’s hot ‘n heavy audio stories—you get a free 30-day trial when you use our link.

Get cookin’ with Made In’s professional-grade cookware. 15% off your first order with the code ATHINGORTWO.

Dabble in CBD with Cure Crate and take 20% off your first order with the code ATHINGORTWO.

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Nov 08, 2021
Mimi O Chun’s Delightful Art and Revisiting the Department Store
55:34

What a treat it is to talk to one of our favorite artists, Mimi O Chun, who just mounted her first gallery show! Deeply impressive, we know. Speaking of impressive, there’s one department store that’s doing it for us lately, and we (predictably) have a lot to say about that.

 

Friends, a contest. Submit your best stab at a description for this podcast via voicemail to 833-632-5463, email to podcast@athingortwohq.com, or IG DM to @athingortwohq. There’s Professional Enthusiast merch in store for the winner…

 

The lore of the set of tires being returned to Nordstrom: It's true.

 

If you’re in the Phoenix area—or will be between now and January—go see Mimi O Chun’s show It’s all cake at the Scottsdale Museum of Contemporary Art. 

 

Watch this video for a taste of Mimi’s work and, dear god, please follow her on IG.

 

“Museum of Oat Dreams (for One)”—wowowow. 

 

Stuffed Hipster Emblems!

 

Mimi’s sister Miro is an amazing ceramicist, too: Check out Miro Made This for her work.

 

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Nov 01, 2021
A Butter Sculptor Retires and Kicking Off Oven-Season Baking
46:24

Today, we bring you love and affection for a renowned butter sculptor, complicated feelings about baking, and some pretty sweet recipes for Q4 2021.

 

The retirement of the Minnesota State Fair butter sculptor, per The StarTribune! Related: the Christopher Guest-ish movie Butter.

 

Andy Murray and the case of the stolen tennis shoes and wedding ring that were returned

 

Dorie Greenspan’s compelling argument for baking in a recent Garden & Gun interview.

 

Three baking cookbooks Erica loves: The Cake Bible, Cannelle Et Vanille: Nourishing, Gluten-Free Recipes for Every Meal and Mood, and The Four & Twenty Blackbirds Pie Book: Uncommon Recipes.

 

Some baking recipes we have up our sleeves: Claudia Roden’s Orange and Almond Cake, Julia Turshen’s Afternoon Cake, Smitten Kitchen Strawberry Summer Cake, Yotam Ottolenghi’s Flourless Coconut Cake, Julia Child’s Genoa Almond Cake / Pain de Gênes (page 78 here), Emily Luchetti’s Ginger Cookies (and Emily Luchetti’s Stareos), Ovenly's Salted Peanut Butter Cookies, Dorie Greenspan's 3-Ingredient Almond Crackle Cookies, skillet cookies (with Brutus Bakeshop Miso Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough—or perhaps the Real Simple’s Flourless Chocolate Skillet Cake With Coffee Ice Cream take), NYT’s Mint Chocolate Chip Ice Cream Cake.

 

Have you made Butter Mochi? Tell us more.

 

Holiday recipes specifically: NYT's Bourbon Pecan Pie, Lidia Bastianich's Ricotta Cookies, Butter(nut) Balls, Heavenly Hash, Molly Yeh’s Stollen Bars, Gourmet’s Spoon Cookies, Lidia Bastianich’s Pignoli Cookies (or Grossy Pelosi’s).

 

Whatcha got cookin’ over there? Let us know at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, and/or @athingortwohq.

 

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Oct 25, 2021
Sesame Street’s Social Media and Talking Recovery with A.J. Daulerio
57:42

Two content powerhouses we just can’t seem to get enough of these days: The Sesame Street crew on social media (looking at you, Count Von Count) and A.J. Daulerio in his newsletter The Small Bow and podcast Really Good Shares, both of which address recovery in really thoughtful, nuanced ways that speak to us as people who aren’t in recovery.

 

An Adweek story from 2010 about Sesame Street’s social-media presence when the strategy was run by Dan Lewis, the guy behind the Now I Know newsletter.

 

A few Sesame Street things you need to see: Count Von Count on Twitter, Big Bird x Oscar from 2018, Oscar the Grouch on #MetGala.

 

We’re such massive fans of A.J. Daulerio’s work—subscribe to The Small Bow! Listen to Really Good Shares!

 

“My Years in the Florida Shuffle of Drug Addiction” by Colton Wooten for The New Yorker

 

The Really Good Shares ep with former Jezebel and Hairpin editor Emma Carmichael about a truly terrible year.

 

Our crossover moment: A.J.’s newsletter about Sesame Street.

 

Another pitch for When Things Fall Apart by Pema Chödrön. And The Pocket Pema Chödrön, too.

 

If you want more of A.J.’s backstory, there’s an Esquire profile for that.

 

Download the Zocdoc app (for free!) and schedule a doctor’s appointment already.

Take a break with Dipsea’s hot ‘n heavy audio stories—you get a free 30-day trial when you use our link.

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Oct 18, 2021
Getting All of Our Graphic-Design Questions Answered (Thanks, Projector!)
48:44

Wowowowow, are we grateful to our pals over at Projector, the free web-based software for collaborative design, for partnering with us on this ep to bring you—and us!—the scoop on colors, fonts, trends, and even some loose rules, ℅ a couple of our favorite designers to work with and one we aspire to work with someday. Obviously you’ll need to deep-dive into everything Colin Smight, Rachel Herzig, and Andrew Kuo after listening…

 

Colin Smight of Cul de Sac Studio! Relevant clickage: Collage Culture, the font foundry ABC Dinamo, Rose Los Angeles, and By Humankind.

 

Rachel Herzig! Relevant clickage: It’s Nice That and Jieyi Lee.

 

Andrew Kuo! Relevant clickage: his basketball podcast Cookies Hoops and @earlboykins2.

 

Get ready to fall as hard for Projector as we have. It’s basically like Google Drive for design projects, and we use it daily. You don’t need any design experience to use it, and free—to sign up, to use, all of it.

 

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Oct 14, 2021
Cow Potty-Training and the Beauty Products of Our Youth
47:43

The perfection of the packaging of Clinique’s 3-Step System. The joy of convincing a dad at a drugstore that lipgloss is just a balm. The best possible name for a cow toilet, the MooLoo. Oh, what an ep we have in store for you.

 

Care of the Associated Press: “No bull: Scientists potty train cows to use ‘MooLoo.’” Related-ish: Oh Crap! Potty Training and the Potette.

 

A few beauty products from our youth that we’re interested in revisiting: Aveda Shampure (and, also Shampowder dry shampoo?!), The Body Shop’s Mango Body Butter (or perhaps Olive Body Butter), Clinique Almost Lipstick in Black Honey (which Erica still wears—and Claire wears as Superbalm), and Dolce & Gabbana Light Blue (Claire’s long-time sig scent).

 

Get professional counseling with BetterHelp—10% off your first month with our link!

Try Nutrafol for thicker, healthier hair. Your first month’s subscription is $15 off with the code ATHINGORTWO.

Download the Zocdoc app (for free!) and schedule a doctor’s appointment already.

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Oct 11, 2021
Michigan Star Restaurants, Patient Advocacy, Covid Weddings, and A+ Apps
44:02

You know what we have a lot to say about today? A lot of things, from high praise for neighborhood restaurants and actually useful apps to sharing weddings FAQs and advocating for yourself at the doctor’s office. 

 

Behold, the Covid wedding template of our dreams:

Our beloved friends & family,

It's only 30 days until our wedding! We're so glad that you are coming and celebrating this special day with us. 

A few announcements regarding the wedding: 

Serious stuff

  • You must be fully vaccinated to attend the event. Please send your proof of vaccination to EMAIL ADDRESS.
  • For children and adults with underlying medical conditions preventing them from getting vaccinated, we ask that you obtain a negative PCR Covid-19 test result within 48 hours prior to the event.
  • Your health is of utmost importance to us, and we have therefore decided to cancel ANY CHANGES TO EVENT SCHEDULE.

Fun stuff

  • X, Y, Z!

 

Apps worth your limited phone storage space: Weather Strip, Libby, and PictureThis (related-ish: Merlin Bird ID). 

 

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Listen to How To Do the Pot for practical advice about weed for women by women. Tune in wherever you get your podcasts!

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Oct 04, 2021
Thingies! And Getting Our Crossword/Spelling Bee Fix.
52:31

More all-time fave products, coming your way in today’s Thingies episode! If you want to catch up on past installments, dive right in. To kick us off, though: a word about word games.

 

Ladies and gentlemen, the NYT Spelling Bee.

 

Leon Neyfakh’s somehow-relevant Grub Street Diet.

 

Inkubator, crosswords by cis women, trans women, and woman-aligned constructors, and When We Cross Words to make your own crosswords.

 

Thingies!!! Zout, Laundress Mesh Washing Bags (related: a laundry drying rack), Kate’s Butter, Stonewall Kitchen Bloody Mary Mixer (try also: McClure’s Bloody Mary Mix), Breadblok GF bread (for glutinous bread in NYC: She Wolf Bakery Classic Batard), and Revlon ColorStay Lip Liner in Nude.

 

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Sep 27, 2021
Cereal, Periods, and Some Strong Middle-School Energy
54:33

Why is it that talking about cereal and periods brings on waves of nostalgia? If you feel the same, well, please do share: 833-632-5463 or @athingortwohq.

 

The birth of cereal restaurants in the early aughts! See: Cereality. See now: Kith Treats.

 

Newish cereals worth knowing about: Magic Spoon and OffLimits.

 

The Nyssa VieVision Between Legs Mirror would have really changed things for us as teenagers.

 

A timely Ziwe tweet.

 

A menstrual cup to check out: Noble Cup.

 

Period underwear, especially useful for those last couple days: Thinx (plus Speax for bladder leak) and Karla Welch’s brand Period.

 

A fascinating read from Elle “Do You Really Need Your Period?” by Lauren Sampedro. 

 

The Clue app and an interesting story from 2018 (also from Elle!) about its rise and the research potential of its data.

 

We’ve been getting such good voicemails! And yet we’re hungry for more! Get us at 833-632-5463.

 

Re: the awesome voicemail at the end of this episode about produce and condiment fridge swapping, a TikTok.

 

You know what you might be really into? Secret Menu.

 

Listen to How To Do the Pot for solid advice about weed for women by women. Find it wherever you get your podcasts!

Access professional counseling with BetterHelp and get 10% off your first month with our link.

Use the free online graphic-design platform Projector to spiff up all kinds of stuff.

Try Nutrafol for thicker, healthier hair. Take $15 off your first month’s subscription with the code ATHINGORTWO.

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Sep 20, 2021
How Photographer Gillian Laub Worked through Family Political Tension (Also: Vegan Hot-Dog Racing)
50:59

Gillian Laub’s photography makes us cry. And laugh! What we’re saying is, it’s magical, and just wait until you hear about her latest project Family Matters, a book and an exhibit exploring family (hers, specifically) in a politically divided America. Something we need to address first, though: racing hot dogs (vegan ones, specifically).

 

Courtesy of Eater: “PETA wants the big hot dog costumes at baseball games to be vegan, but surprise! They already are.”

 

Let’s please examine The Famous Racing Sausages at Milwaukee Brewers games and the racing pierogies at Pittsburgh Pirates games.

 

We’ll take any opportunity to give a little love to Trader Joe’s Soy Chorizo.

 

Pick up Gillian Laub’s outrageously compelling book Family Matters! See her show at the International Center of Photography in NYC from September 24, 2021, to January 10, 2022!

 

For more of Gillian’s work, check out her site and IG.

 

More on Pop-Up Magazine, where Gillian workshopped this project.

 

Another relevant book that Gillian loves (um, same): Good Talk: A Memoir in Conversations by Mira Jacob. Listen also: our interview with Mira about said book.

 

Gillian’s photos of Cindy Adams for New York mag...and her behind-the-scenes content.

 

Lovin’ your voicemails, friends! Keep ‘em coming at 833-632-5463. 

 

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Use Modern Fertility’s finger-prick test to get a handle on your fertility. It’s $20 off when you use our link.

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Sep 13, 2021
A Friendship Classified Ad, Intergenerational Friendships, and Group Chats (with All the Friends)
58:27

Pals, it’s a friendship grab bag! We’re chatting with Katie Seaver, a deep-thinker looking for a deep friendship who placed a classified ad in our newsletter seeking one, and then we’re diving into friendship age gaps and group chat dynamics (a whole thing!).

 

Yes, you want to know Katie Seaver, who ran a classified ad in our newsletter that linked to a Google doc titled “Wanted: A deep + meaningful friendship in Northeast Los Angeles.” She’s also a life coach with a newsletter that touches on, yup, friendship.

 

Shasta Nelson’s book Frientimacy: How to Deepen Friendships for Lifelong Health and Happiness.

 

A shout-out to Bumble BFF.

 

The story of the rude TikTok and the woman who deserved (and found) new friends.

 

An interview with Lakshmi Rengarajan, host of the podcast Paired by the People, about asking intentional questions on romantic or friend dates.

 

A timeline of Kourtney Kardashian and Addison Rae’s friendship.

 

“I Want What They Have, Friendship Edition: Tilda Swinton and Timothée Chalamet.”

 

"Why Befriending People of Different Ages is Vital in an Ageist Society" from the Sunday Riley blog.

 

From 2001: “GroupMe and the rise of group everything.”

 

Ahhh, group emails. Please see the book Hey Ladies!: The Story of 8 Best Friends, 1 Year, and Way, Way Too Many Emails.

 

Chris Black’s 2018 GQ piece “The Group Chat Saved My Life.”

 

“Sending Smiley Emojis? They Now Mean Different Things to Different People” from The Wall Street Journal.

 

Got friendship thoughts? Other thoughts? Share them at @athingortwohq, podcast@athingortwohq.com, and 833-632-5463. 

 

Want more? That’s where Secret Menu comes in.

 

Make stunning digital stuff with the free online graphic-design platform Projector.

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Get dreamy, chill waves with Conair’s Double Ceramic Triple Barrel Waver.

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Aug 30, 2021
Hair Length, Produce Refrigeration, and the Internet’s Best Product Descriptions
53:54

That’s right: today’s ep is a real grab bag, and we imagine you have thoughts? Share them! At @athingortwohq, podcast@athingortwohq.com, and 833-632-5463! If this is exactly the kind of content you’re in the market for, Secret Menu will be up your alley, too.

 

The full Nalata Nalata ecomm experience! The Our Story page, the Welcome to Our New Website statement, and every single one of the product descriptions.

 

Our favorite L.A. store in the Nalata Nalata vein: Tortoise General Store.

 

Shout-out to St. Louis Tag Co., world’s greatest maker of hang tags.

 

Two anti-fridgers: Sophia Roe and Molly McAleer. To make produce storage more complicated: The Kitchn’s Guide to Storing Fruits and Vegetables.

 

One hair product: Hairstory New Wash

 

Two long-hair heroes: Crystal Gayle and Totally Hair Barbie

 

A great NYC barber: Neighborhood Barbers.

 

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Aug 23, 2021
Oysters and Fast Food (Talk About Well-Rounded)
46:18

In which we reveal that our ideal meal might involve grilled oysters, McDonald’s fries, and a Dairy Queen Blizzard. Hey, they’re all tastes of summer, ok?

 

A case for oysters from Well+Good: “The More Oysters You Eat, the Better the Oceans Get” 

 

An oyster-heavy cookbook: Mosquito Supper Club: Cajun Recipes from a Disappearing Bayou.

 

Erica has low-key shucking gloves from Little Creek Oysters in Greenport on the North Fork of Long Island (a lovely place to learn to shuck if you’re in the neck of the woods).

 

Grilled oysters! A revelation! Hama Hama has a great guide and sells “grillers.” Eat ‘em with this NYT hot-sauce butter recipe.

 

We do need you to know about the copywriting happening over at Long John Silver’s.

 

The original Arby’s sign! And Rolando Pujol’s whole Instagram account, really.

 

“Letter of Recommendation: Why the Filet-O-Fish Is My Gold Standard for Fast Food”

 

Eater on the rise and fall of the Arch Deluxe.

 

The late Roger Ebert on his love of Steak 'n Shake (and David Letterman’s too).

 

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Aug 16, 2021
Nora McInerny on Supporting People Through the Hard Stuff (and a Gift Idea Too)
01:01:33

How do you show up for your people when they’ve grieving, dealing with loss, and/or just generally going through a really shitty time? What a genuine joy it was to talk about this with Nora McInerny, whose podcast Terrible, Thanks for Asking you obviously know (right?). And first: some JIC gifts.

 

In case of emergency gifts for grown-ups: consumables (candles, condiments, beauty products!). For babies: Lewis swaddles and Sophies. For kids: Twee chalk, Sunprint Kits, and Omy coloring posters.

 

Dig into everything Nora McInerny puts out into the world, including the tremendous podcast Terrible, Thanks for Asking and her books It's Okay to Laugh (Crying Is Cool Too), No Happy Endings, and Hot Young Widows Club (and created a Facebook grief support group of the same name).

 

The NYT piece on the sex educator Justine Ang Fonte and the platinum rule.

 

The Ring Theory, which we really buy into and talk about a lot! 

 

A Kids Book about Empathy...that’s potentially useful for adults, too.

 

Friends, this TikTok series from Carly Aquilino on Y2K fashion.

 

We really want to hear your friend-supporting thoughts. Share them at @athingortwohq, podcast@athingortwohq.com, and 833-632-5463. 

 

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Aug 09, 2021
Curious Home Items and That New New York Vibe
48:01

Introducing the chair and half! And reintroducing the greatest city in the world, New York! We’ve brought our enthusiasm, friends, and we’re hoping you’ll join us.

 

Claire’s dream chair and a half is from Maker & Son. Erica’s dream stool coat rack is by Guillen Ferran for Casa Constante (two others worth knowin’ about from Umbra and Room & Board, too). 

 

SinkPositive!!!

 

Ann Friedman’s newsletter about NYC energy.

 

NYC’s Thai restaurant renaissance! Nuaa Table, Fish Cheeks, Thai Diner, to name just a few.

 

The New York Post on “‘6 P.M. Is the New 8 P.M.’: Why Early-Bird Dining Is Here to Stay.”

 

The genius New York mag nightlife newsletter are u coming? by Brock Colyar

 

More on the TikTok phenom Tinx.

 

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Aug 02, 2021
Online Shopping Tricks ‘n Tips...and Ending Vacation Early
43:57

How do we wrap up vacation? How do we shop for clothes on the internet? Well! 

 

The Atlantic also says you should come home from vacation a day early in this piece about 8 rules for a happy vacation

 

Hit us with your online shopping hacks at @athingortwohq, podcast@athingortwohq.com, and 833-632-5463. And get more of ours from Secret Menu.

 

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Jul 26, 2021
The Idea of You Casting Drama and a Friendship Deep-Dive
01:08:22

If you’ve ever had questions about our (19 years of!) friendship, wade on into this episode, which was sparked by the heartwarmingly genius Summer of Friendship series from Call Your Girlfriend. And if you’ve ever wondered about our thoughts on making The Idea of You book into a movie...well, that too!

 

More on The Idea of You’s rabid following ℅ Michelle Ruiz for Vogue.

 

People, watch Friends with Kids! Somehow related: It was Patrick Dempsey who was (at one point) married to the makeup artist, Jillian Fink.

 

Do you want access to TIOY Facebook group? Have at it.

 

The author Robinne Lee cites her original inspiration for Solene as Leticia Herrera, the founder of Casa Tua hotels.

 

Jenna Wortham’s New York Times Magazine piece about the movie Zola and recasting pressure via Twitter.

 

Tune into the Summer of Friendship eps of Call Your Girlfriend! Our chat about our relationship is part of that joyful series.

 

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Find out where to get your COVID-19 vaccine near you at vaccines.gov.

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Jul 19, 2021
Solving Those Sleep, Energy, & Sex-Drive Mysteries with Base Founder Lola Priego
40:01

How many questions do we have for Lola Priego, the founder of the innovative at-home lab-testing company Base? So many that we partnered with the company to bring you all this ep and to get a better understanding of how the medical sector is evolving, the common findings the Base team is seeing in tests, and what factors that might be contributing to bleh energy, sex drive, and sleep—you know, those weirdly hard-to-solve health gripes. Also, re: ZZZs: Let’s kick things off with a talk about pajama habits, shall we??

 

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This Base quiz could prove very useful, whether you opt to join or not.

 

Call us! Add 833-632-5463 to your contacts, even?

 

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Jul 15, 2021
Thingies! And Famous Birthdays!
51:37

One thing we’re newly obsessed with: the wide, weird world of FamousBirthdays.com. Nine finds we’re oldly obsessed with and very ready to discuss: Welcome to the latest installment of Thingies, our unstoppable, un-top-able category faves.

 

Do you know FamousBirthdays.com? Do you know Courier magazine?! Well, there’s a great story about the former in the latter.

 

Today’s Thingies!!! New Skin Liquid Bandage, Chef’s Choice Diamond Hone Knife Sharpener, Temp Tee Whipped Cream Cheese, D.S. & Durga Auto Fragrances (sold as a set too—and, related, ones from P. F. Candle Co.), Norma Kamali Super Low Back Mio, Hollywood Fashion Secrets Silicone Coverups, Nailtiques Formula 2, Jade Yoga Harmony Mat, and (bonus?) Bug Bite Thing (plus, somehow related, Oh Crap! Potty Training).   

 

Previous Thingies eps one and two should you want to catch up.

 

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Jul 12, 2021
Baby Hummingbirds and Lauren Chan on Fashion Right Now and Size-Inclusivity
54:34

Are you ready to be charmed? Great, because today we’re discussing baby hummingbirds and hanging with Lauren Chan, who’s a size-inclusive fashion advocate, a model, and the founder-slash-CEO of Henning, which makes luxury, oh-so-cool womenswear in sizes 12 to 24. Soon, she’ll be a TikTok star, too—we have no doubt.

 

Related to Erica’s How to Do Nothing-esque baby hummingbird *experience*: this glorious Jamie Beck ridiculousness, the Minnesota State Fair’s CHS Miracle of Birth Center, this Travel + Leisure story “The World's Best Places to See Baby Animals,” David Schwimmer on Marcel the monkey, and a taste of hummingbird TikTok.

 

Shop Lauren Chan’s line Henning! Follow her on Instagram!

 

Other fashion companies that Lauren admires: Wray, Tamara Malas, Eileen Fisher, and Mara Hoffman.

 

What’s Lauren wearing? So glad you asked. For jeans and jorts, Citizens of Humanity (in size 33) and Agolde (in size 33 or 34). Speaking of shorts: Henning bike shorts, Aerie sweat shorts, and WSLY nylon shorts from Bandier. Up top: nostalgic T-shirts from Poshmark and flowy button-downs from Poshmark and her love, The RealReal

 

Her home go-tos (see also: this Domino feature styled by Elaina Sullivan): Chairish, Saatchi Art, and Craigslist.

 

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Jun 28, 2021
Demystifying CBD with Caliper Co-Founder Jeremy Goldstein
45:03

To anyone who’s asked “Um, can y’all dig deeper into CBD?” and/or “Does that stuff actually work?” we bring you an episode full of (extremely interesting!) nitty-grittiness on cannabinoids. We’ve partnered with the impressive team over at Caliper for this conversation with our old pal Jeremy Goldstein to talk science, credibility, regulation, and, yes, hype. If this has you itching to try Caliper, use the code ATHINGORTWO for 20% off your first order.

 

More on drug-sniffing K-9 retirees.

 

Deeper-dives into how Caliper approaches regulation and clinical trials

 

If you’re interested in the microdose THC company Jeremy and his co-founder Justin Singer started first, check out the line of Ripple products.

 

20% off your first Caliper order with the code ATHINGORTWO! 

 

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Jun 24, 2021
Flea and Wedding Registries (Slash Stuff We Want in Our Kitchens Forever)
54:37

What would we register for if we were getting married sometime soon? What would we buy if we just really wanted a tablecloth or new drinking glasses? Oh, we have thoughts. And, speaking of wish lists, how exactly do we get our hands on Flea’s Bees honey from the Red Hot Chili Peppers bassist?

 

For more on Flea (because who doesn’t want more on Flea?): Dave Grohl’s doc What Drives Us, this GQ article about his relationship with the streetwear designer Melody Ehsani, his memoir Acid for the Children, a video of him playing guitar with Koko, a really moving essay for TIME about his opioid addiction, the org he started Silverlake Conservatory of Music, and, finally, Flea’s Bees. Also, of course, his Instagram and Twitter.

 

Picks for wedding registries—and just, like, living our best dining lives—coming right up! For the master, master list, sign up for Secret Menu and dive on in.

 

Flatware: Almoco Flatware, Mono Ring Cutlery, Sabre Bistrot Flatware, and Georg Jensen New York.

 

Dishes: Heath Ceramics, Dansk, Jono Pandolfi, and Pomelo Casa.

 

Cloth napkins, tablecloths, and placemats: Society of Wanderers, Lewis, Thompson Street Studio, and Ames for Goodee.

 

Wine glasses: Fferrone and Estelle Colored Glass.

 

Drinking glasses: Borosil Simple Glass Tumblers, Bormioli Rocco Stackable Bodega Glasses, and Duralex Picardie Glasses in clear or color or with the carafe.

 

Cutting and serving boards: Farmhouse Pottery Dipped Clay Plate, Fort Standard Walnut Plank, and Le Regal French Oak Serving Boards.

 

You know we want to hear from you. Get us at @athingortwohq, podcast@athingortwohq.com, and 833-632-5463. 

 

For our baby registry ep, head here

 

Secret Menu members can get access to the wedding-registry deep-dive over here.

 

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Jun 21, 2021
Public Affluence and Atoosa Rubenstein Talking Grown-Up Stuff
59:10

Longtime hero and first-time guest Atoosa Rubenstein is our plus-one today, and, whoa, is she delivering SO MUCH wisdom—you know, exactly the sort of stuff she was known for as the editor of CosmoGIRL! And Seventeen, but now built for adults. (Related: You’ve gotta sign up for her newsletter Atoosa Unedited.) Before we get into it, though, we need to talk about a term that’s as useful as it is aspirational: public affluence.

 

Public affluence further reading: “Every Child on Their Own Trampoline” by Jeremy Williams and the 1958 book The Affluent Society by John Kenneth Galbraith.

 

More on the Buy Nothing Project. See also: this post and this one from Reading My Tea Leaves. 

 

Sign up for Atoosa Unedited, Atoosa Rubenstein’s newsletter—you want in on this!—and read the breakup installment we reference. Oh, follow the Atoosa Unedited Instagram, too.

 

Tiny, baby Erica interviewing Atoosa in 2004 for Roadtrip Nation.

 

Some Atoosa go-tos: It Didn’t Start With You by Mark Wolynn, Goop, Armchair Expert, SmartLess, Tara Brach, and Page Six.

 

Direct your feedback to @athingortwohq, podcast@athingortwohq.com, and 833-632-5463. 

 

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Jun 14, 2021
A Snack Attack and Claire’s New Beauty Go-Tos
47:35

It’s testing central ‘round these parts. First, we dig into snacks (and fall hard for a fancy GF pop-tart comp), and then Claire shares the beauty products that have won her over recently. Obviously both sunless tanner and deep conditioner make a showing.

 

What are we munching? Well! Wild Fruits Jam Tarts, 12tides Puffed Kelp Chips, and Pipcorn Jalapeño Cheddar Crunchies, since you asked.

 

Claire’s latest hair favorites: Bread Beauty Supply Hair Mask Deep Conditioner, Hairstory New Wash, Christophe Robin Brightening Shampoo, and Briogeo Scalp Revival Stimulating Massager.

 

Her new go-to skin stuff: Muri Lelu Mauvaise Herbe Indica Oil, Sunday Riley Good Genes, Consonant Hydrextreme Sheet Mask, St. Tropez Self Tan Purity Bronzing Water Face Mist, Tata Harper Creme Riche Moisturizer, and Diana Ralys Melt Away Oil Cleanser.

 

And two make-up things that made the cut: Artis Brush (Oval 6) and KVD Beauty Tattoo Liner.

 

Send your thoughts on any ‘n all of this to @athingortwohq, podcast@athingortwohq.com, and 833-632-5463. For a whole lot more where this came from, check out Secret Menu.

 

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Jun 07, 2021
Opening the Windows and Making Time for Creativity
40:45

Feel that cross-breeze? Hard for us to tell if it’s fresh air or creative energy, to be honest. But much more on both ahead...

 

The opening the windows tweet that really spoke to us both.

 

The fan Claire recently, aspirationally acquired: this Zonix one in white.

 

You know Secret Menu? Because you should.

 

For some context around our creativity check-in, dive into our perfectionism ep (and maybe Big Magic?).

 

This NYT piece on future block!

 

Mary H.K. Choi inspired Erica’s writing approach, and Gina Hamadey and her new book I Want to Thank You helped shape Claire’s sketching routine.

 

Keep the feedback coming! @athingortwohq, podcast@athingortwohq.com, and 833-632-5463.

 

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May 24, 2021
Eating Less Meat and Drinking Less Booze
41:37

If you’ve been thinking more about your meat and/or alcohol consumption—or would like to—pull up a chair and dig in. And, as always, feel free to drop us voicemail at 833-632-5463. Hungry for your thoughts.

 

Our less-meat news items: Epicurious on not publishing any (new) recipes with beef, Eleven Madison Park’s return with a vegan menu, and Taco Bell’s Cravetarian Taco

 

One interesting beef source: Butter Meat Co.

 

Us-approved meat alts, should you want ‘em: Impossible (burgers with Omsom marinades, Helen Rosner’s Roberto soup, hard-shell tacos with Spicewalla seasonings), Trader Joe’s soy chorizo (for tacos, eggs, pastas with chickpeas!), and Lightlife Smart Deli Bologna for sandwiches.

 

The MSG essay by Shaad D'Souza (from Bon Appétit, not Eater—oops). Related: @know_msg, Red Boat salt, and Momofuku tamari.

 

The book name-checked by Chrissy Teigen about women + sobriety: Quit Like a Woman: The Radical Choice to Not Drink in a Culture Obsessed with Alcohol by Holly Whitaker, founder of the recovery program Tempest.

 

A great installment of the Quartz Obsessions newsletter about sober-curiosity.

 

Your feedback: more than welcome. Get us at @athingortwohq, podcast@athingortwohq.com, and 833-632-5463.

 

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May 17, 2021
Checking in With Amanda Hesser and Miffy, Hello Kitty’s Frenemy
52:32

Just a podcast ep featuring two old pals: Miffy, chic cartoon rabbit, and Amanda Hesser, icon, inspiration, and co-founder of Food52, the site you’ve (we’ve) visited just a few thousand times.

 

First, some Miffy merch: this light that Erica and Cam own, these napkins, this corduroy stuffed animal, and this Converse collab

 

A 2008 Daily Telegraph profile of Dick Bruna, the creator of Miffy.

 

The rumored Taylor Swift and Katy Perry collaboration.

 

Our Amanda Hesser fandom runs deep! We love all things Food52, of course, but we’ve been A.H. diehards since we read Cooking for Mr. Latte in the early aughts.

 

A few Amanda kitchen recs: Bien Cuit sourdough starter, Ortwo pepper grinder, and JK Adams two-tiered lazy susan.

 

The go-to recipe when Amanda’s kids are cooking: Zuni's Pasta with Preserved Tuna.

 

For deep-diving on Amanda and her co-founder Merrill Stubbs, check out our book Work Wife, and for more on Amanda’s backstory and business approach, check out this recent ep of How I Built This.

 

We love to hear from you, always. You can get us at @athingortwohq, podcast@athingortwohq.com, and 833-632-5463.

 

For more insidery-ness from us, check out Secret Menu.

 

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May 10, 2021
Things We Want to Leave Behind and How to Start a Running Routine
47:47

Less running around to meetings, more running routines! If this ep had a mantra, that would be it.

 

Other running and running-adjacent content: the C25K app, our podcast ep with Coach Bennett, Edith Zimmerman’s Drawing Links newsletter, and Nikki Ogunnaike and Aminatou Sow on IG.

 

Some “things we’re over” further reading: A BBC article on air travel + the environment, a tweet about overscheduled days, and a NYT article about disability and virtual accommodations. 

 

We want/need your thoughts at @athingortwohq, podcast@athingortwohq.com, and 833-632-5463! And, if you want more of our thoughts—on running and plenty more—come get ‘em at Secret Menu.

 

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May 03, 2021
Fighting Perfectionism and Remembering People’s Names
58:11

Has perfectionism jumped the shark? And how do we remember names when we start meeting new people again?! Clearly, we have a lot of questions (and some answers).

 

If you like this, you’ll probably really like Secret Menu.

 

A couple books that made us ponder perfectionism: Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert, Yolk by Mary H.K. Choi, and Drop the Ball by Tiffany Dufu.

 

Related convos: our ambition ep, this episode of Jam Session, and the Wit & Delight posts here and here.

 

Come and get us at @athingortwohq, podcast@athingortwohq.com, and 833-632-5463! 

 

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Apr 26, 2021
Deep-Diving Into Post-Pandemic Dressing and a Kombucha Who’s Who
01:00:10

When we can all go out in the world again, will we be getting dressed up? And what will “dressed up” even mean?! Oh, do we have questions—and some answers—about re-entry fashion...and also about kombucha titan GT Dave.

 

A hot topic, apparently: GT Dave of GT’s Kombucha.

 

A few shoe lines that have us ready to set aside our Birkenstocks for a minute: Alepel, Kkerelé, and Emme Parsons.

 

If you’re ready to dabble in hard pants after some time away, Claire loves these AYR jeans.

 

The centerpiece of Erica’s spring/summer mood board: this Marni tulip-print matching set.

 

Let’s gush for a sec about the statement-y jewelry from Lizzie Fortunato’s fall collection.

 

Are we doing bold eye makeup? Like this Violette liquid shadow and Marc Jacobs Beauty Highliner?

 

How are YOU gonna be dressing? Tell at @athingortwohq, podcast@athingortwohq.com, and 833-632-5463. 

 

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Apr 19, 2021
Talking Black Buck with Mateo Askaripour & a Gift for the Best Boss You Ever Had
43:37

We’ve got Mateo Askaripour, author of the extremely buzzy novel Black Buck, with us today—and, hey, we also showed up with our best going-away gift ideas for a stellar boss who perhaps deserves a travel mug thingy emblazoned with his catchphrase.

 

Gifting Q: Boss going-away gift. Best boss I ever had. Mentor. Mid-fifties. Male. Already gave booze. Our thoughts: Leatherology modern round coaster set, custom Yeti bottle, knives from Opinel or Laguiole, Souda business card holder, or flowers (always).

 

You gotta read Mateo Askaripour’s debut novel Black Buck! Tell you what!

 

Sales books that got Mateo started: Jeffrey Gitomer’s The Little Red Book of Selling and Sales Bible

 

Books Mateo would say are in conversation with his own: The Spook Who Sat by the Door by Sam Greenlee, The Sellout by Paul Beatty, and Heads of the Colored People by Nafissa Thompson-Spires.

 

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Apr 12, 2021
After Dark, Useful Tools, Embarrassing Recipes, and Great Breakfastations
44:28

You know what’s a grab bag? An episode on nineties screensavers, long breakfasts, box cutters, and recipes we’re embarrassed to share. Join us!

 

Just a short film of 281 After Dark modules and a very timely tweet.

 

The tools we wear by: box cutters, measuring tapes (see also: this ep of Gee Thanks, Just Bought It), kitchen scales (the Joseph Joseph TriScale one specifically), dough scrapers, kitchen spiders, and fish spatulas.

 

Claire’s (embarrassing) buffalo chicken chowder, her favorite coconut yogurt Cocojune, and the bfast tacos she wants to try.

 

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Apr 05, 2021
Our Pre Post-Pandemic Social Anxiety and Erica’s New Beauty Go-Tos
44:35

Not to get ahead of ourselves, but, well, we’re totally getting ahead of ourselves: Is anyone else a little clenchy about having social lives again...sometime soon? Another topic of discussion: the beauty products Erica has on rotation—top threes instead of HGs!—from sunscreens to deep conditioners.

 

“Late-Stage Pandemic Is Messing With Your Brain”—or ours, at least.

 

The energy we’re seeking: John Jannuzzi’s dance compilation videos.

 

Sunscreens: Coola Sun Silk Drops, EleVen by Venus Unrivaled Sun Serum (related: a must-see trophy room), and Ilia Super Serum Skin Tint.

 

Body moisturizers: Tata Harper Revitalizing Body Oil (related: this ep of The Glossy Beauty Podcast), Weleda Skin Food Body Butter, and classic ol’ coconut oil.

 

Deep conditioners: IGK Offline 3-Minute Hydration Hair Mask (a Harling Ross rec) and Briogeo Don’t Despair, Repair! Strengthening Treatment Oil (while doing the Tata Harper Resurfacing Mask).

 

Nail things: the Bare Hands kit and Olive & June polishes (EC, CV, and SC) along with the Poppy.

 

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Mar 29, 2021
Weird Coffee Habits & Writing Juicy, Inclusive Romance Novels with Talia Hibbert
52:05

Perhaps you’ve noticed that we won’t shut up about romance novels? Well, this week we’re chatting it up with Talia Hibbert, one of our favorite writers of the genre, about telling diverse stories, shaping conversations about consent, and writing good sex. But first: Does Erica have too many coffee devices? You be the judge.

 

The coffeemakers in Erica’s rotation: Bodum French press, Nespresso Pixie (with Woken pods—but Nespresso ones are recyclable in NYC now. See also from the NYT on recycling legislation!), Gemini Espresso Maker (or a single-serving alt from GSI), and Copper Cow Coffee pour-overs

 

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We’re all about Talia Hibbert’s Brown Sisters trilogy: Get a Life, Chloe Brown (her first traditionally published book), Take a Hint, Dani Brown, and Act Your Age, Eve Brown. Here for more, more, more of her writing.  

 

To dive into the conversation around the lack of representation in the romance-novel world: this NYT article, this initiative and reporting from The Ripped Bodice, and a big blow-up re: Romance Writers of America (who were accused of racism) last year.

 

Other romance recs from Talia: Nalini Singh’s Psy/Changeling series, Honey Girl by Morgan Rogers, the upcoming Kennedy Ryan release Reel, the work of KJ Charles, A Duke, the Lady, and a Baby by Vanessa Riley and its next installment, and The Jasmine Throne by Tasha Suri.  

 

One movie romance rec: the latest Emma adaptation—pretty and funny, both! 

 

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Mar 22, 2021
More Thingies Award Winners! And Peak Sprinkles Culture.
52:53

What bras, tahini, and shaving cream do we swear by? WELL! You’ve come to the right place. Before we get into our Thingies winners: a discussion of the absolute insanity of sprinkles in 2021. 

 

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Some sprinkles context: a 2016 NYT funfetti article and the 2019 The Power of Sprinkles: A Cake Book by the Founder of Flour Shop.

 

Some sprinkles resources: Sweets Indeed Sprinklefetti (lightning bolts!), Supernatural (Field Day!), Fancy Sprinkles (Hey Jude—lolz!), Williams Sonoma Sprinkles, 1985, and Cakes by Kristi (Chips n' Guac Sprinkle Mix AND Poker Face) and Etsy just in general. 

 

Round two Thingies winners!!! Negative Underwear non-wire bras (specifically in sieve mesh) and Chantelle underwire demi bras (read also: this rave from The Cut), Soom tahini (more on this podcast ep), Patagonia Down Sweater Hoody, RiseWell toothpaste, Gossamer CBD Dusk and Dawn (tune into this pod ep), Cremo shave cream, the prescription delivery service Capsule, Holy Schmitt’s horseradish (try the cocktail sauce and/or horseradish mustard, too), and the Thermapen Mk4

 

For the inaugural Thingies recipients, head this way.

 

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Mar 15, 2021
Those Uncerty Thirties (with Kayleen Schaefer!) and Fitness Influencer Vibes
49:08

Something we’re quite sure of: what makes a good in-app workout instructor. Something we’re quite unsure about: what our thirties are meant to look like in this day ‘n age. Kayleen Schaefer has many, many thoughts on the latter. Tune in and then dig into her new book But You’re Still So Young (yes, incredible title).

 

The on-demand fitness instructors who leap over the ridiculously high bar we’ve set: Melissa Wood of Melissa Wood Health, Coach Chris Bennett of the Nike Run Club app (a previous podcast guest!), Adriene Mishler of Yoga with Adriene (see also: this NYT Mag profile and this Reductress post about Benji the dog), and Robin Arzon and Matty Maggiacomo of the Peloton app.

 

Read Kayleen Schaefer’s wonderful But You’re Still So Young! And if you haven’t already gobbled up Text Me When You Get Home, maybe it’s your next book-club pick?

 

A few of Kayleen’s “You May Also Like” recs: The New Better Off by Courtney E. Martin, Anne Helen Petersen’s Buzzfeed piece on burnout and her book Can’t Even, and Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert (also endorsed by Bad on Paper).

 

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Mar 08, 2021
Still Not Having Kids and Our Latest Romance-Novel Crush
42:02

Breaking news: Erica is still not having kids—but she does have some fresh thoughts on the subject, especially as many of her pals tackle parenthood. And! If you’d like a shot before your chaser, let us tell you all about The Roommate, porny and praise-worthy. 

 

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If you need some STEAM, get yourself a copy of The Roommate by Rosie Dannan (and it’s spinoff The Intimacy Experiment, out in April).

 

Relevant having-kids eps of this very podcast: Our original “On Choosing—and Not Choosing—Motherhood” convo and Claire’s take on new mom life and motherhood, one year in.

 

The piece Erica wrote for Refinery29 about deciding not to have kids and the one Grace Atwood wrote for her site The Stripe.

 

The installment of Anne Helen Petersen’s Culture Study newsletter that we reference (so good in general, this newsletter).

 

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Mar 01, 2021
What Healthy Comfort Food Means to Julia Turshen. And a Snack Taste Test!
55:42

If you’re not already a devotee of Julia Turshen and her cookbooks—her latest, Simply Julia, is out next week!—well, consider this your initiation into the fan club. We’re talking with her about “healthy” and “comfort”—loaded food words, for certain!—and because we’re geniuses who knew this topic would make us hungry, we’re starting things off with a snack taste test.

 

Ready for our chip chat? We’re chomping on Annie Chun’s Seaweed Crisps Go-Chu-Jang (perhaps with this miso dip), Beanfields Vegan Cracklins Chile Limón (not to be confused with Snacklins), and Lesser Evil Power Curls Fiery Hot (see also: its Paleo Puff cousin).

 

Julia Turshen’s cookbooks—collect ‘em all: Simply Julia (her new hit), Small Victories, Now & Again, and Feed the Resistance. She’s also co-written gems like In Bibi’s Kitchen, with Hawa Hassan, and The Hot Bread Kitchen Cookbook, with Jessamyn Waldman Rodriguez.

 

Dive into her Equity at the Table database project and her Keep Calm and Cook On podcast, too.

 

A few of Julia’s favorite people in food: Mavis-Jay Sanders and Sicily Sierra Johnson, who run Food + People, Pati Jinich, who hosts the PBS cooking show Pati’s Mexican Table, and Yewande Komolafe, whose recipes Julia trusts always.

 

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Feb 22, 2021
Coping Tips from Dr. Ben Michaelis and Perfect Gifts for Your Snake-Sitter
46:34

What a pleasure it is to bring you all Dr. Ben Michaelis, who we think of as ⅓ management coach, ⅓ therapist, and ⅓ couples counselor (at least in our case). We’ve been seeing this guy—together!—for five-ish years, and he’s helped us to navigate much in our lives, professional and personal. Speaking of navigating, we’re kicking-off the episode by answering an age-old question: “What sort of thank-you gift do I get my snake-sitter?!” 

 

Oooh, boy, did we get a good gifting request: “Thank you for your friend who fed your pet snake weekly for 6 weeks. They like Phish.” Here’s where we landed: Fishman Donut Round Jigsaw Puzzle, Island Bamboo spoon sets and salt cellars, Na Nin incense cones, Boy Smells Kush candle, Debbie Carlos Curl Pipe (from Tetra), Edie Parker Flower stash case, Areaware Snake Block, Lorien Stern snake wall-hanging ceramic or plush snake sculpture (or bucket hat or hoodie), Ferm Living Mr. Snake cushion or fruiticana snake, Chen Chen and Kai Williams serpent lighter keychain, and Willa Heart snake prints and placemats.

 

Here’s that snake opening a door video you were hoping for.

 

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Feb 15, 2021
Baby-Registry Recs and Craigslist Scams
01:01:58

What an educational ep: Erica teaches Claire about Craigslist scams, and Claire schools Erica on the wild, wild world of baby registries. (Can you want a leopard-print carrier and not an infant??)

 

You want more? We got more! It’s called Secret Menu, friends, and signing up will get access to Claire’s baby-registry, er, motherload.

 

That cashier’s check Craigslist scam!! Vox has an excellent explainer “Why Cashier’s Checks Are Part of So Many Online Scams," and there’s a WalletHub guide to various cashier’s check scams and where to report them.

 

Consider donating to organizations like the National Diaper Bank Network or National Birth Equity Collaborative if you have the resources to be very persnickety about your baby registry.

 

Baby chairs and other places to put little people: BabyBjörn Bouncer (and its design-y comp: Betón Baby Bouncer), Charlie Crane Levo Rocker, Askr & Embla Sleep Pod (a prettier Dock-a-Tot), and Boppy with a custom cover (related: My Brest Friend).

 

Sleeping solutions: The Snoo (you can rent them!), Moses baskets (like one from Kind Label in a Jolly Jumper stand), cribs like the Ikea Sniglar or the Babyletto Hudson or ones from Nestig or the (very fancy) Kalon Caravan, and pack ‘n plays from Guava Lotus or Graco or BabyBjörn.

 

Baby carriers: Colugo Carrier, Sakura Bloom Ring Sling (an alt to a Solly Baby Wrap), BabyBjörn Baby Carrier Mini, and the very fashion-y Artipoppe.

 

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Feb 08, 2021
Media Right Now with Delia Cai and the Whole30 Whole Thing
50:05

The two of us think and talk a lot about ~the state of media~, and we figured it was about time we discussed it with a genuine expert. Enter stage left: the thoughtful and incredibly incisive Delia Cai, who writes the newsletter we always open Deez Links (and is a growth and trends editor at BuzzFeed by day—so clearly she’s on top of all the things.) We also figured it was ‘bout time to discuss Claire’s experience with Whole30, at least as it relates to their insurrection content.

 

You can find the Whole30 insurrection statement right over here (the Jan. 7 post).

 

The BuzzFeed article titled “The Small-Town America I Love Is The One I See At Football Games” that first led Erica to Delia (shout-out Dunlap High School—go eagles!).

 

You gotta, gotta sign for Delia’s newsletter Deez Links if you care about media (or good TikToks) at all. An adjacent, relevant newsletter: Today in Tabs.

 

For more on Substack, dive into Clio Chang’s “The Substackerati” piece for CJR (and its discussion of Patrice Peck’s Coronavirus News for Black Folks newletter) as well as Anna Wiener’s “Is Substack the Media Future We Want?” for The New Yorker.

 

Writers Delia always reads: Taylor Lorenz, Doreen St. Félix, and Hua Hsu.

 

Two Deez Links installments we discuss: Delia's piece about a profile of Nick Quah and Hot Pod and a very LOLZy one about fantasy media men beefs.

 

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Feb 01, 2021
The Comedic Gifts of R. Eric Thomas...and the Absurdism of Toddlerdom
01:00:37

To answer the question of many a comedy-club promoter in Times Square: Yes, we do love to laugh. And one sure-fire way to get us howling is reading anything written by R. Eric Thomas—or chatting with the man himself, turns out. But up first: some toddler funny business.

 

A few toddler-relevant pieces of content: Bunheads by Misty Copeland, PBS’s Remarkable Rabbits, and No-Drama Discipline by Daniel J Siegel and Tina Payne Bryson.

 

Please consume all the R. Eric Thomas you can! His memoir Here for It and the book he co-authored with Helena Andrews-Dyer about Maxine Waters, Reclaiming Her Time! His wonderful newsletter! All the past installments of his Elle.com column “Eric Reads the News!” (And stay tuned for much more, obviously.)

 

Some of Eric’s memorist icons: David Rakoff (Fraud specifically), David Sedaris (see also: this Hugh Hamrick profile), Samantha Irby, and John Paul Brammer and his forthcoming book Hola Papi.

 

What pop culture Eric’s consumed recently: Umbrella Academy, The Secret Lives of Church Ladies by Deesha Philyaw, Broadcast News, When Harry Met Sally (related: The Rewatchables podcast), Bridgerton, Veep, What We Do in the Shadows, The Office of Historical Corrections by Danielle Evans, and Nothing to See Here by Kevin Wilson. Claire and Erica would like to talk about Gremlins and Erin Brockovich also.

 

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Jan 25, 2021
Introducing the Thingies, What Your Awards Season Was Missing. Welks!
48:48

We are nothing if not (professional) enthusiasts, and we figured it was ‘bout time that we shared some products we think are best in category—from brow pencils to baby bouncers, dental floss to pasta. Join us for the Thingies! In the future, we hope our awards programming includes a red-carpet pre-show.

 

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Welks!!!!! What Urban Dictionary and Mindy Kaling have to contribute.

 

The divisive Danny Meyer tweet about Häagen-Dazs vanilla. (Sir did write the book Setting the Table that we like a lot.)

 

The Grub Street bucatini shortage article by Rachel Handler—the sort of coverage HDVB deserves.

 

The inaugural Thingies winners!!! Hellman’s, Heinz, HDVB (duh, duh, duh). The Stutterheim raincoat. Dr. Tung’s Smart Floss. BabyBjörn bouncer. Marvy Uchida Le Pen. Uniqlo HeatTech (the regular and ultra-warm leggings, the turtlenecks). Sania’s Brow Bar pencil (and service!). Garofalo gluten-free pasta (casarecce specifically). Feetures running socks. Artifact Uprising (see: the baby board book, the layflat photo album, the baby book). Soapwalla deodorant (original or sensitive skin). 

 

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Jan 18, 2021
A Mental-Health Check-In Feels Right Right Now
01:07:44

Let’s talk about depression—how we feel when it comes on and how we deal. Let’s talk resources, from books to therapy platforms to IG follows, for anxiety, grief, bipolar disorder, and postpartum disorders. Let’s just talk about mental health more in general, right?

 

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The things that have warmed our hearts a smidge during all of our time at home: a remote-control light dimmer and a calamansi tree (see also: calamansi seltzer from Sanzo + cocktails from Zuzu).

 

Podcasts featuring two people talking that feel kinda like having company: Jam Session, Who? Weekly, Home Cooking, Bad on Paper, Still Processing, and Taking Hugh for Granted.

 

Not-new fiction that’s provided Erica with a genuine escape recently: I Capture the Castle by Dodie Smith (1948), Mrs. Bridge by Evan Connell (1955), Kindred by Octavia Butler (1979), and Heartburn by Nora Ephron (1983).

 

Mental-health resources! Some books: The Mindful Way Through Depression by Jon Kabat-Zinn; Comfortable with Uncertainty, When Things Fall Apart, and The Pocket Pema Chodron by Pema Chodron; and An Unquiet Mind by Kay Redfield Jamison.

 

Articles: "The Hardest Two Months of My Life" from A Cup of Jo, "How to Help Someone With Depression" from New York mag, and "How Not to Say the Wrong Thing" from LA Times

 

Podcasts: Hey, Cool Life! with Mary H.K. Choi, Unlocking Us with Brené Brown, The Hilarious World of Depression, and Oprah’s SuperSoul Conversations episode with Jon Kabat-Zinn.

 

Instagram follows: Jessica Clemons, MD, Emily McDowell, Crystal Anderson, Sad Girls Club, Brown Girl Therapy, The Loveland Foundation, and The Nap Ministry.  

 

Meditation: the Insight Timer app, which is a marketplace of sorts, and UCLA Mindful Awareness Research Center Guided Meditations.

 

For therapy, check out Talkspace and BetterHelp for digital/telemedicine options and Alma and Real, which are about streamlining the process of finding a therapist you connect with.

 

If you or someone you know is considering suicide, call the National Suicide Prevention Hotline at 800-273-8255.

 

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Jan 11, 2021
Rice, Hospital Go Bags, and, Uh, What Exactly We Do for Work These Days
56:31

Let’s kick off 2021 with a true grab bag of an episode! Because who else will tell you allllll the things they’re making/eating with rice, why they’re fascinated by hospital go bag content, and how exactly they’ve been making money over the last year, all in one go??

 

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Rice—it’s nice! Right now, we’re feeling sushi rice for everything, Chrissy Tiegen’s coconut rice, Vigo saffron yellow rice, and Samin Nosrat’s Persian-ish rice.

 

And 2020’s awards for most fascinating and entertaining hospital go bag reveals go to…@nelliediamond and @hannahbronfman!! Also: Here’s the vid that inspired Claire’s, which even has a sequel

 

This Eberjey PJ jumpsuit (which we both love in just, like, regular life) is actually a worthy hospital go bag inclusion. 

 

The affiliate networks we use (you know, if you run a business that’s thinking about these things!): ShopStyle Collective, RewardStyle, ShareASale, and Bookshop.org.

 

A few other newsletter / micro media businesses we take inspiration from: The Ann Friedman Weekly, Why Is This Interesting?, and Courtney E. Martin

 

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Jan 04, 2021
Dumplings as an Aesthetic and Alisha Ramos on Staying In
44:31

We’ve been following the career of Alisha Ramos since she was in college—so, um before she technically had a career. If you haven’t spotted her two businesses Girls’ Night In, a newsletter ‘n community for women who love to stay in, and Whiled, a line of cheery, artsy puzzles, everywhere you turn recently, then your pandemic experience has been very different from ours. But before we get into it all with her: Let us discuss how dumplings (the sweatpants of food?) became such a vibe.

 

DUMPLINGS. In handbag form from Simon Miller, Elleme, and Emily Levine. In cartoon form thanks to Wonton in a Million. As sculpture in porcelain by Stephanie H. Shih and felt by Dumpling Mart. As a light, an ornament, and, hey, a potsticker pipe.

 

Alisha Ramos is up to so very much—she’s the founder of Girls’ Night In and Whiled, and she’s a very committed Swiftie and gardener on IG.

 

Speaking of Swifties: a conspiracy rabbithole for you—feel free to search Swiftgron on Tumblr.

 

The still-very-relevant Stay Home, Take Care resource the GNI team put together at the beginning of quarantine. 

 

For some TikTok ~curation~, follow Aminatou Sow and Zara Rahim...on Instagram.

 

“Our Shared Unsharing” by Stella Bugbee for The Cut

 

A few of Alisha’s head-clearing recs: Wolf Hall by Hilary Mantel, Floret, Monty Don, and The Gardens of Bunny Mellon. Plus one gardening-related one from Erica: Animal, Vegetable, Miracle by Barbara Kingsolver.

 

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Dec 28, 2020
Reading Reckless, Thanking Stacey Abrams, and Talking Grown-Up Books for Kids
46:37

We’ve dedicated a helluva lot of our 2020 brain space to 1) the election and 2) romance novels. Who sits at the intersection of those two realms? American hero Stacey Abrams, who has written eight—eight!—of the latter under the name Selena Montgomery. We’re talking about one of them, Reckless, today. Another thing we’re getting into: books that aren’t technically for kids but that kids can take a lot from. A real page-turner of an ep!

 

Three adult books that influenced us growing up: Our Bodies, OurselvesLife’s 100 Photographs That Changed the World, and The Cake Bible.

 

Books we endorse having around the house for kids to have access to: Black Futures, Every Person in New York, The Macmillan Visual Dictionary, The Times Comprehensive Atlas of the World, Map: Exploring the World, The Man Behind the Maps, In the Company of Women, D C-T!, and Do It Yourself

 

Do you need some Stacey Abrams / Selena Montgomery romance in your life? SURE YA DO. Read Reckless, its sequel Deception, and this very good recent Glamour article by Jenny Singer that explores her novel-writing and its reception over time.

 

Secret Menu—subscribe, gift a 6- or 12-month gift sub to Secret Menu, etc.?! 

 

Share 2021 episode topics you’d love to hear at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, and/or @athingortwohq

 

Give Hilma a go to treat those everyday aches and pains (headaches included!!). For 20% off the starter set and a free gift, use the code ATHINGORTWO.

 

Also, listen to the latest season of Even the Rich, Free Britney, on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or join Wondery Plus in the Wondery app.

 

YAY.

 

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Dec 21, 2020
Black Futures with Kimberly Drew and Jenna Wortham—Plus BIG Gifts
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If, like us, you’ve been following Kimberly Drew and Jenna Wortham’s work for years ‘n years, you’re going to really relish digging into Black Futures, the sweeping anthology they created together. This week, we’re chatting with the duo about celebrating Blackness, developing a friendship over the course of a creative collaboration, and, um, mispronouncing words. Oh, and before they join us, we’re discussing why really big versions of things make good gifts. 

 

You thought we were done with gift ideas? Heck no. 1) a 6- or 12-month gift sub to Secret Menu. 2) DONATIONS! 3) lots of something you know someone already loves. For us, we’re talking jumbo takes on Luxardo cherries, Maldon salt, Fruit Roll-Ups, Oribe Gold Lust Repair & Restore Conditioner, Ghirardelli brownie mix, Tate’s cookies, sriracha, that Kacey Musgraves x Boy Smells candle, and Red Boat fish sauce and salt.

 

Grab your copy of Black Futures (which, by the way: great gift). To keep up on Jenna and Kimberly’s book tour—and to feel very in-the-know in general—follow both of them on IG: @jennydeluxe and @museummammy respectively.

 

Black Futures inspirations: The Black Book edited by Toni Morrison, Black Women Writers at Work by Claudia Tate, Losing Ground directed by Kathleen Collins (and just the scope and scale of Kathleen Collins's work broadly), the F series at The Studio Museum in Harlem, and adrienne maree brown (and her book introductions specifically).

 

Of the SO MANY moments, undertakings, and talents Black Futures delves into, a few this episode touches on: Martine Rose, Black Mama’s Bail Out, and the birth of Black Lives Matter in the Facebook posts of Alicia Garza and Patrisse Cullors.

 

And visit www.hilma.co/ATHINGORTWO to get the Hilma starter set, with a free gift and 20% off!

 

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Dec 14, 2020
Gift Guide, Part 2: Teens, Bosses, Brothers, and, Duh, Your Mail Carrier
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Welcome to Gift Guide Podcast, the Sequel: Presents Requested. (Can you tell we’re a little slap-happy after recording these eps?) If you haven’t tuned in for part one, here’s the deal: We’ve got lots of ideas from small businesses, many owned by women and BIPOC, (and none from Amazon)—and we have thoughts on organizations to donate to in someone’s honor, too. Are you ready for all the thoughts? Great, let’s get into it. Oh, and if you just can’t get enough, our 2019 installments are here and here.

 

BROTHERS!

 

21 year old brother who has a new passion/major every week. Techie, creative, loves pasta.

 

Little brother, loves foreign affairs, about to graduate from college, very classic taste

 

21 y.o. Lil bro who is way cooler than me. Into the outdoors, vintage jackets, anime.

 

My 30 y.o. lefty anti-capitalist brother who secretly really likes buying things.

 

 

KIDS!

 

The 2-year-old that has everything—9 sets of Aunts/Uncles!

 

Kids! Not little but not teens. Bonus for stuff that isn’t tech-based. PLEASE

 

 

TEENS!

 

Late teen more responsible than me at 30 and already has the lined Birkenstocks.

 

17-year-old awkward tomboy who has NO opinions on anything she likes

 

 

BOSSES AND EMPLOYEES!

Design-minded bosses (one male and one female) 

 

Male boss you have a crush on. Should seem to cost about $50 (but ok if it costs more)

65-year-old male boss who’s super successful, obsessed with Tesla and health and wellness

 

18 co-workers. I’m their boss.

 

 

GRAB BAG!!!

 

37 weeks pregnant and just want to pick one thing to buy 25 of and call it a day. But what?!

 

My dog walker who dresses like a Tim Burton character and is 22. $50 - $100 

 

My mail carrier

 

I need special little things for neighbors/mail people/building managers!

 

Last gift idea, promise: a sub to Secret Menu.

 

Give Nutrafol a go for thicker, healthier hair—the code ATHINGORTWO gets you 20% off.

Live that bidet life with Hello Tushy. 10% off and free shipping!

YAY.

 

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Dec 07, 2020
Gift Guide, Part 1: Dads, Sisters-in-Law, and New Quar Romances
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You have gift questions, and we have gift answers! Welcome to part one of our second-annual gift guide, where you’ll find so much cool stuff from small businesses (many run by women and BIPOC!), no Amazon links (but you do you), and thoughts on orgs to donate to, too. Part two is coming next week, and last year’s still-relevant installments are here and here. Now, hope you’re prepared for an outrageously long episode recap...

 

PARENTS!

My mom has requested “a new hobby” for Christmas which has sent me spinning. Any ideas? She’s very artsy and already gardens and writes fiction. Knitting hasn’t worked for her due to her arthritis, and she’s a lifelong hater of kitchen activities, most of the cute gifty hobby kits I’ve seen fall into those categories. Stumped! 

 

Fic & non-fic books that will nudge my parents to the left without them realizing it.

 

I need gift ideas for my almost 60-year-old, tech-y, suburban dad. Hasn’t finished reading the books he got for Father’s Day but he loves history. Does a lot of biking on his indoor trainer. He has an Apple Watch but we aren’t allowed to get him AirPods because my mom thinks he’ll accidentally put them through the laundry. He likes food/eating/cooking but had a heart attack 3 years ago so we’re not allowed to do fun things (unless they’re low sodium/cholesterol). Usually I try to find an activity (movie, bike, ride to brewery, etc.) but covid makes that hard. So many restrictions!!

 

Mom and her husband who just bought a new cottage and are DIY fixing it up. The kitchen and garden are especially yucky! 

My Jewish parents who are IMPOSSIBLE to shop for and trying to stop eating sugar. 

My crunchy fire-fighting dog lady MIL.

 

Stepmom: hates being cold. She’s always cold. But is entertaining outside now in CA.

 

SISTERS-IN-LAW!

 

My sister-in-law is a chic New Yorker and I live in Missoula, Montana. I am a needs-based gifter and she is very much a wants-based gifter. I love to cook, she dabbles in cooking (she’s dairy free) and I think she finds me kind of quaint for my homey ways. She is (and strongly identifies) as an Aries. She is a platinum-rewards-level business traveler and boss babe entrepreneur in the music industry. We get along great, but we literally could not be more different and I am ALWAYS stuck on gifts for her. This year I already gave her a gorgeous coffee table book of NYC night photography that I feel pretty good about, but I need a lifetime stockpile of ideas. Budget is $50- $100

 

My very chic sister-in-law who lives in a shoebox in Paris and will need to clear TSA

 

Sister in law who loves to cook. $50 and under

 

 

HUSBANDS, BOYFRIENDS, AND OTHER UNDEFINED MEN!

 

A dude who I’ve been seeing since early October. We’re exclusive but not serious….helllp

 

Fiance! Together 8 years, postponed wedding. Xmas AND his bday SAME WEEK!

  • A piece of art—maybe decide to pick it out together for Xmas (and then you only have to shop for his bday): Picture Room or Absolut Art
  • You could even reach out to an artist you like on IG and ask about commissions!
  • Custom neon sign with something you two say or your initials : Yellowpop or Brite Lite
  • Something sentimental framed via The Heirloomist

 

A 35-year-old man who loves sports, his dog, his Jeep, the Cubs and classic music. 

 

A 37-year-old suburban dad who misses dance parties and loves the Book Review

 

 

FRIENDS!

 

My long-distance bestie and I turned 30 this year and we’d originally planned on going on a trip together and getting welded gold bracelets as some grown-up version of friendship bracelets. However, THESE TIMES(™). So now she’s moving from Toronto (same country) to New Zealand (different hemisphere! Different continent!). We thought we’d do some sort of big co-gift! Pertinent details for your brainstorming pleasure: She’s a Capricorn (reluctantly) and I’m an extremely Pisces Pisces (love 2 cry). Budget is up to $200ish. Needs to be mildly packable considering she has to get it to NZ somehow along with the rest of her earthly possessions. Needs to ship to Canada. LOVE YOU!

 

Group text friends

 

 

GRAB BAG!!!

 

My great-grandma who lives across the country and has never met my baby, because COVID

 

People whose hobbies are “going for walks in the neighborhood.” 

 

Someone who hates things/prefers experiences, but with Covid it’s hard to experience!

 

 

You know what else makes a great gift—a digital stocking stuffer, if you will? A sub to Secret Menu.

 

Do you have other ideas and just thoughts in general to share? Hit us up at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, and/or @athingortwohq

 

On 12/21, we’re going to be talking about the romance novel Reckless by Selena Montgomery (aka Stacey Abrams). Join us for a read-along! 

 

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Nov 30, 2020
Running a Record Label With Sam Valenti IV...and Eating Artichokes With Us
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