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this pod has helped me in different phases of my life. when I thought I was the only one with these feelings in the church, the pod let me know I was not alone. it helped me stay active longer and helped me during my faith crisis

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Mormon Stories is an attempt to build understanding between and about Mormons through the telling of stories in both audio and video formats.

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1698: Losing Faith as a BYU Professor - Louisa Killian Pt 1
02:20:31

After her marriage to a "worthy" priesthood-holding Returned Missionary goes south when her husband is arrested for fraud, Louisa Killian finds love & equality in a relationship outside of the Church and a fulfilling career teaching dance at BYU. But when it's time to renew her Temple Recommend to keep her ecclesiastical endorsement (a requirement for employment at the Church school), Louisa finds that honesty has severe consequences.

Louisa Killian

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Nov 28, 2022
1697: Thriving in Love after Mormonism - Gary & Ernie
03:51:30

Content Warning: Suicidal Ideation

Gary and Ernie were both raised members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. They only had one major problem - they were gay. While Ernie tried marrying a woman and having children to "make the gay go away," Gary pursued graduate school, tried to date women, and eventually pursued a life of celibacy. At some point, both of their lives broke down.

Join us today for a true love story for the ages - how Gary and Ernie found love together, and how they are thriving today.

Gary & Ernie: Go Forward

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Nov 23, 2022
1696: Marriage on a Tightrope Interviews Margi & John Dehlin
02:11:14

Join Kattie & Allan from Marriage on a Tightrope as they interview John & Margi on the various aspects of faith transitioning as a couple.

Marriage on a Tightrope started as a resource for mixed-faith couples (like themselves) after Allan lost his faith. Mixed faith marriages have their own unique complications and issues and Allan & Kattie hold vulnerable conversations about their mixed faith marriage in order to give the listener context and resources to navigate their own relationship. They have helped hundreds of couples and families stay together and learn to love, accept, and communicate with each other when one goes through a faith transition. 

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Nov 22, 2022
1695: Leaving the Mormon Church in Australia - Tani Berlo
03:22:21

Content warning: Suicidal ideation, Drug addiction

Tani Berlo was raised in Australia as a biracial Mormon of Maori descent.  Showing an early love for history, Tani asked many questions of her LDS seminary teacher regarding science and history that caused concern.  This included questioning the validity of the "Lamanite" identity (from the Book of Mormon) handed to her as a descendent of the Maori people.

Later in Tani's teenage years she was shamed by her LDS church leaders for normative sexual exploration, and was ultimately summoned to a disciplinary council where she was asked sexually explicit questions by multiple men, and was disfellowshipped by the church.  This led to significant sexual shame as a temple married Latter-day saint.  After having children, Tani experienced significant post-partum depression and an opiate addiction, which when combined with her questioning of Mormon truth claims, led to a full-on faith crisis.

Today Tani hosts a TikTok channel on history with over 1.1 million followers.

This is Tani's Mormon story.

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Nov 21, 2022
1694: Mormon Church Supports Same-Sex Marriage?
01:28:39

Join us for a discussion on the Mormon Church coming out "in support" of the Respect for Marriage Act, which many Mormons are mistakenly interpreting as support for LGBTQ people, and for same-sex marriage.

LDS Newsroom Statement on the United States Congress Respect for Marriage Act

Co-host: Gerardo Sumano

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Nov 19, 2022
1693: Book Club - Jerald & Sandra Tanner - Despised and Beloved Critics of Mormonism
02:40:50

Join us for our first Mormon Stories Book Club episode covering LIGHTHOUSE - Jerald and Sandra Tanner, a biography written by Ronald Huggins.

Co-host: Rebecca Bibliotheca

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Sandra Tanner

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Nov 18, 2022
1692: Gender Discrimination in the Mormon Church w/ John Larsen
02:40:47

Despite reports of progress, the Church today remains a highly discriminator organization. In this episode the panel will identify and discuss specific, concrete examples of how the Church explicitly discriminates today.

Co-host: Sam Shelly

Special Guest: Channel Achenbach

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Nov 18, 2022
1691: Polygamy Apologetics, Spiritual Wifery, etc w/ LDS Discussions - 29
03:08:28

Join John, Mike & Elisha Lee as they discuss common problematic apologies around the practice of polygamy in early Church History. From lies being called “carefully worded denials” and attempts to differentiate between “plural marriage” which God approved of or “spiritual wifery” which was not, and the fact that this is still current doctrine and what women have to look forward to in eternity and the harms caused past and present from this doctrine.

Special Guest: Elisha Lee

LDS Discussion Essay on Polygamy Apologetics

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Nov 17, 2022
1690: Gender Dysphoria & Mormonism - Amanda & Shaye Scott Pt. 2
02:37:05

Content Warning: Suicide Ideation

For Part 2 we come back to Shaye and Amanda's story after Shaye returns home from his mission. We learn how Shaye got involved in film with Mormon music group "The Piano Guys," their early issues with infertility, Amanda's schooling and career and the class (and book) that started her slowly on the path to finding out the real history of her belief system.

We also take a deep dive into Shaye's growing dysphoria into their marriage how that developed into severe internalized transphobia, which extended to the whole LGBTQ community as a whole as even allyship felt too "close" and "dangerous" to the secret he was trying to keep buried.

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Nov 15, 2022
1689: The Tyranny of Mormon Patriarchal Blessings - Amanda & Shaye Scott Pt. 1
02:44:41

Content Warning: Gender Dysphoria & Suicidal Ideation

Amanda and Shaye already have a following on their YouTube Channel "Great Scotts" but their video "Why we left the Mormon Church - coming out story" made an even bigger splash. Join us as we hear their stories growing up in Mormon families, their early testimonies and experiences with the Church, Shaye's gender dysphoria and thoughts of suicide, how they met, Shaye serving a mission, and their subsequent marriage after returning.

YouTube Channel: Great Scotts

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Nov 14, 2022
1688: The Happiness Letter (Joseph Smith's Proposition to Nancy Rigdon) w/ LDS Discussions - 28
02:56:21

In part 5 of our 6-part series on polygamy within the LDS Discussion project, we discuss "The Happiness Letter," which was the letter Joseph Smith wrote to Nancy Rigdon to try to convince her to become one of his plural wives.

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Nov 10, 2022
1687: Mormon Leader Ahmad Corbitt Condemns Activism Towards the LDS Church
03:23:24

Join us as we analyze a Mormon leader's private talk given to a small group of Church leaders that has stirred up the Mormon community. In his talk Ahmad S. Corbitt, first counselor in the LDS Church Young Men general presidency, vehemently condemns activism toward the Church.

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Nov 10, 2022
1686: Healing from Mormon Marital Sexual Dysfunction  - Larissa and Jeff Kindred Pt. 3
03:35:30
In Part 3 of 3 on this riveting story of Jeff & Larissa, we join them again as they bravely share their stories of sexual dysfunction due to LDS purity culture doctrines, Larissa's battle with breast cancer, Jeff's experiences with porn/masturbation, and BOTH Jeff and Larissa suppressing their sexuality.
 
They share their journey of healing and growing together in intimacy, as well as other changes post-Mormonism. What is parenting like? How have their beliefs changed and what do they believe now?

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Nov 09, 2022
1685: Unraveling the Progressive Mormon Dream - Larissa & Jeff Kindred Pt. 2
02:23:56
In this Part 2 of 3, we return to Jeff & Larissa's story. Now married, Larissa gives up her University Studies to help Jeff through Med school. They share their struggles with infertility, the adoption process, and adopting black children as orthodox Mormons.
 
Larissa faces difficulties in early motherhood and building resentment as they settle into traditional LDS gender roles. Larissa feels she is losing herself wrapped up in her husband's life, while at the same time trying to silence that part of her that is unhappy, seeing it as "wrong."
 
Larissa is called as a RS President, even as she becomes more vocally progressive/feminist and has hope for the Church to change, but it doesn't last.
 
Jeff realizes the Gospel can't fix Larissa's unhappiness as the root cause is Patriarchy. He serves in Bishoprics for 7 years before discovering more about Church history from the CES Letter, and Rough Stone Rolling, with the Gospel Topics Essays being the final straw.
 
Jeff & Larissa finally recognize the level of harm of systemic racism & sexism in Mormonism and no longer wish to be a part of it.
 
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Nov 08, 2022
1684: A Japanese-American Mormon Story - Jeff and Larissa Kindred Pt. 1
02:53:59

Join us as we meet Jeff & Larissa Kindred and follow their stories growing up as Latter-day Saints. Jeff's story includes a grooming scoutmaster, his love of sports, attending Snow College, and serving a mission in Jackson, Mississippi where he dealt with scrupulosity, unhealthy diet and exercise, becoming AP, and wrestling with racism in the Church culture & scripture.

Larissa's story involves her Japanese-American heritage, and gives a brief introduction on the history of anti-Japanese sentiment in Utah, including having been home to a Japanese "Work" Camp in Topaz. Larissa tells of the struggles her grandparents faced assimilating into Utah Culture and dealing with the loss of their own. Larissa also describes racism she experienced growing up in American Fork, UT and Mormon culture's ideals matching white beauty standards.

And this is just the beginning! Jeff and Larissa have a lot of experiences that many current and former Mormons will relate to and experiences that will be new for many to hear.

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Nov 08, 2022
1683: Mormon Church Tax Scandal in Australia
01:52:31

Join Simon Southerton and Neville Rochow as they discuss the breaking news story of potentially fraudulent behavior by the LDS Church in Australia.

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Nov 04, 2022
1682: Joseph Smith's Plural Marriage Proposals Pt 2 w/ LDS Discussions - 27
01:57:28

Join Mike (LDS Discussions), Elisha, and John as they continue in Part 2 to look at the techniques of influence that Joseph Smith used to propose to his plural wives.

LDS Discussion Essay on Polygamy

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Nov 03, 2022
1681: Rebuilding My Life after Returning Early from Mormon Mission - Brinley Jensen Pt. 2
01:52:03

Content Warning: Suicidal Ideation

Join us as Brinley returns to share what rebuilding her life was like after returning home from her mission and how she finally found her voice & happiness.

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Nov 02, 2022
1680: The Dark Side of a Mormon Mission - Brinley Jensen Pt. 1
03:01:57

Content Warning: Suicidal Ideation & Planning

Join John & Margi as they interview young and spunky Brinley Jensen, a Gen Z returned missionary, as she shares her experiences growing up in the Church and the consequences she's faced at various times as she's spoken up for herself and grown into the person she is.

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Nov 01, 2022
1679: Joseph Smith's Plural Marriage Proposals Pt 1 w/ LDS Discussions - 26
02:01:39

Join Mike (LDS Discussions), Elisha, and John as they look at the techniques of influence that Joseph Smith used to propose to his plural wives.

LDS Discussion Essay on Plural Marriage Proposals

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Oct 27, 2022
1678: Tommy “THETOMSTERS” & Madison Johnson
04:21:27

Join us for two unique Mormon Stories as John Dehlin & Samantha Shelley interview Tommy & Madison Johnson. Tommy made fans and haters on both sides of belief when he hit the TikTok scene during COVID with funny skits on the peculiarities of Mormonism. What viewers couldn't see was that Tommy was struggling to know how to deal with many of the messier topics in Church History as well as the darker sides of modern Mormon doctrines such as the stance against the LGBTQ+ community, which includes his own sister, while ALSO navigating his mixed-faith marriage with Madison who stopped believing entirely after their Temple Marriage. Madison describes her life as having been "born into a faith crisis" due to stigma and family shame around being conceived out of wedlock by a teen mother. Madison's struggles with the faith continued through most of her life despite her levels of activity/involvement in the Church, even through her Temple Marriage with Tom. Madison leaves the Church upon finding the CES letter and she and Tommy work through what this will mean for their marriage, and even end up on an episode of the podcast "Marriage on a Tightrope" with Katie & Allan Mount. They finish off with where the couple is at today and how life is going since all of the changes they've been through. Guests:


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Oct 25, 2022
1677: John Larsen - Your Friend, the Church
02:37:56

Supreme Court Amicus Curie briefings are a way for organizations to influence and become involved in significant Court cases. For many years the church has used its high-powered attorneys to file briefs in major cases. We will discuss which cases and what the church truly values. 

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Oct 21, 2022
1676: D&C 132 - Joseph Smith's Polygamy "Revelation" w/ LDS Discussions - 25
03:05:05

Today’s episode continues the discussion on Polygamy with the (in)famous revelation still canonized in Mormon/LDS scripture as Section 132 of the Doctrine & Covenants. Mike sets up the historical & personal context of the timing of this revelation and the problematic ideas presented in it as coming from God including how God views women, redefining adultery and other moral issues, and the various rules and justifications given by God to practice polygamy. 

Mike goes on to show that Joseph admits himself that polygamy is something he wanted, and despite being the receiver of the various specific rules defined by God, he nevertheless proceeds to break every one of them. 

Finally, Mike goes over the many apologetics around this section of the Doctrine & Covenants and the problems with most of the arguments attempting to justify the revelation, Joseph’s polygamy, and the resulting polygamy among many of the branches of Mormonism, some continuing to this day. 

LDS Discussion Essay on Polygamy

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Oct 20, 2022
1675: Navigating a Faith Crisis as Brothers-in-law: Chris Lee and Mitch Hadfield Pt. 2
02:35:10

Going through a faith crisis can be a lonely and isolating experience, especially in a believing family, so imagine the relief to find someone else is going through the same thing! Join John & Margi as they interview Chris Lee and Mitch Hadfield about their Mormon Story, their struggles with the faith, their relief to find understanding, support & solidarity with each other, and where their lives are now.

In Part 2 of 2, Chris and Mitch explain the sources of their individual faith crises and how they processed it. Chris’ was a slow burn with a long amount of time spent in progressive Mormonism, while Mitch went from fairly conservative to a nonbeliever overnight. They explain the results of sharing their faith loss with each other, their wives, and other believing family members and where Chris and Mitch find themselves today. 

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Oct 18, 2022
1674: Struggling to Complete a Mormon Mission: Chris Lee and Mitch Hadfield Pt. 1
02:12:26

Going through a faith crisis can be a lonely and isolating experience, especially in a believing family, so imagine the relief to find someone else is going through the same thing! Join John & Margi as they interview Chris Lee and Mitch Hadfield about their Mormon Story, their struggles with the faith, their relief to find understanding, support & solidarity with each other, and where their lives are now.

In Part 1 of 2, Chris and Mitch tell their respective stories growing up in Mormon families and share their individual struggles serving missions for the Church. Chris struggles deeply with depression and anxiety resulting in going home early though at the cost of guilt that will last for years. Mitch experiences shame over “unrepented sins,” difficulties of the mission, and deals with suicidal ideation, though his does finish the full two-year term.

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Oct 17, 2022
1673: An Introduction to Mormon Polygamy w/ LDS Discussions - 24
01:54:54

Mike and John discuss the timeline and cultural context surrounding Joseph Smith at the time he claims to receive the revelation on polygamy which became canonized and is still considered scripture for many modern Mormon branches, some who still practice it today, and even ones who don't, like the largest Mormon branch headquartered in Salt Lake City, Utah.

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Oct 13, 2022
1672: Being Gay at BYU - Daniel Spencer Pt . 2
02:07:03

Content Warning: Mention of sexual acts, suicide, & suicidal ideation

Join us for a very special episode & guest, Daniel Spencer (@DanBamBam on Social Media) to share his heartwarming story with us. From growing up as a closeted gay Mormon teenager in a country where being gay isn't just illegal, but dangerous, to his mission experiences and discovering his talent not just for comedy but for starting important conversations at BYU and beyond! Daniel Spencer (@DanBanBam)

Trigger Warning: Suicides & Suicidal Ideation

In this part 2 of 2, Daniel returns to share what the remainder of his mission was like, his studies at BYU, dealing with his homosexuality, learning more about the Church's history and truth claims, and his attempts to learn to speak his truth out loud after decades of hiding who he was. Daniel attempts to use social media to bring attention to important issues as well as give people a chance to speak their truth, even if anonymously.

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Oct 11, 2022
1671: Growing Up Mormon in Zimbabwe - Daniel Spencer Pt . 1
02:24:55

Content Warning: Mention of sexual acts, suicide, & suicidal ideation

Join us for a very special episode & guest, Daniel Spencer (@DanBamBam on Social Media) to share his heartwarming story with us. From growing up as a closeted gay Mormon teenager in a country where being gay isn't just illegal, but dangerous, to his mission experiences and discovering his talent not just for comedy but for starting important conversations at BYU and beyond! Daniel Spencer (@DanBanBam)

Content Warning: Mention of sexual acts

In Part 1 of 2, Dan tells us about his Mormon upbringing in Zimbabwe, from how his parents met each other, ended up in Zimbabwe, and what may be different for Zimbabwean Latter-day Saints from the more common US & Utah-based stories. We learn what his teens were like, including sexual mores and education where Dan grew up and he shares his own experiences. We also learn when and how Dan began to gain his testimony of the Gospel, his decision to attend BYU and serve a mission, and what his experiences were like going through the Temple for the first time and his early mission experiences.

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Oct 10, 2022
1670: October General Conference - Panel Discussion
02:54:50

Description: Join us for our very first General Conference Panel of Discussion on Mormon Stories Podcast. John, Samantha, Gerardo, Nemo, and John’s dad, David will analyze a few statements made during the October 2022 Mormon General Conference. You can't miss this one! Official Channel for General Conference Guest Panelists:

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Oct 06, 2022
1669: LDS Temple Endowment & Masonry w/ LDS Discussions - 23
01:56:59

Join Mike and John as they discuss Mormonism’s early connection with Masonry through Joseph Smith and the unique problems it creates for members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to grapple with today.

Covered topics include the timeline of Joseph becoming a Master Mason before introducing the similarly-themed rituals of the Temple Endowment Ceremony, why many members and apologists claim Masonry to be of ancient origin despite evidence to the contrary, the many parallels between the secret rituals of both organizations, and whether or the Temple Endowment involved false doctrines.

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Oct 06, 2022
1668: Mormon Stake Presidency Counselor Confronts General Authorities - Evan and Weston Smith Pt. 3
02:42:37
Trigger Warning: Suicidal Ideation
 
Evan Smith rose through the ranks of Mormon leadership ultimately becoming a Stake Presidency member. While serving as an LDS Bishop, Evan struggled with the Church’s positions on LGBTQ+ issues and later found out that his son Weston was gay. Even after coming out, Weston decided to serve an LDS Mission as an openly gay man, leading him to high levels of depression and heartbreaking experiences during and after coming back early from his mission.
 
Evan became an advocate for LGBTQ people in the Church. His position as a Stake Presidency Counselor led him to a few confrontations/discussions with General Authorities and a later meeting at Church Headquarters where they discussed Evan’s progressive beliefs on LGBTQ matters.
 
In Part 3 of 3, Evan describes getting called as a Stake Counselor, his attempts to be an ally for LGBTQ individuals and his subsequent faith crisis. Evan has a few debates/confrontations with Area Seventy Elder McCune (higher than Stake Presidency in Mormon leadership) over his gay son. Evan emails Apostles and other leaders on how the Church can change to be more loving and accepting of LGBTQ members resulting in a meeting with General Authority Allen D. Haynie. Evan continues faith deconstruction when his wife begins her faith crisis, and they both come to see the issues with sexism in the Church, biblical scholarship opening up new issues, and the family’s ultimate decision to leave the Church. 
 

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Oct 05, 2022
1667: Coming Out as the Gay Son of a Mormon Bishop, Serving a Mission - Evan and Weston Smith Pt.2
02:50:18

Trigger Warning: Suicidal Ideation

Evan Smith rose through the ranks of Mormon leadership ultimately becoming a Stake Presidency member. While serving as an LDS Bishop, Evan struggled with the Church’s positions on LGBTQ+ issues and later found out that his son Weston was gay. Even after coming out, Weston decided to serve an LDS Mission as an openly gay man, leading him to high levels of depression and heartbreaking experiences during and after coming back early from his mission.
 
Evan became an advocate for LGBTQ people in the Church. His position as a Stake Presidency Counselor led him to a few confrontations/discussions with General Authorities and a later meeting at Church Headquarters where they discussed Evan’s progressive beliefs on LGBTQ matters.
 
In Part 2 of 3, we start off where we left with Weston’s story growing up as a gay Mormon kid, discovering his sexuality, his suicidal ideation, and his decision to serve a mission as an “out” gay Mormon. Upon experiencing suicidality again on his mission Weston has a “spiritual experience” which leads to his resolve to leave the church and live a happy life. Meanwhile, Evan gets a call to become a 1st counselor in the Stake Presidency.

 

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Oct 04, 2022
1666: Becoming a Progressive Mormon Bishop, Son Comes Out as Gay - Evan and Wes Smith Pt. 1
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Evan Smith rose through the ranks of Mormon leadership ultimately becoming a Stake Presidency member. While serving as an LDS Bishop, Evan struggled with the Church’s positions on LGBTQ+ issues and later found out that his son Weston was gay. Even after coming out, Weston decided to serve an LDS Mission as an openly gay man, leading him to high levels of depression and heartbreaking experiences during and after coming back early from his mission.

Evan became an advocate for LGBTQ people in the Church. His position as a Stake Presidency Counselor led him to a few confrontations/discussions with General Authorities and a later meeting at Church Headquarters where they discussed Evan’s progressive beliefs on LGBTQ matters. Join John and Gerardo as they interview Evan and his son Weston about their fascinating Mormon Story. 

In Part 1 of 3, we learn of Evan’s relatively normal LDS (Mormon) upbringing in Utah, early testimony-building experiences, and troubling issues on his mission regarding difficult Church topics including the Church’s racism & homophobia. Evan attends BYU and meets his wife, Cheryl, and works through law school with three children. He becomes a Branch President (leader of a local congregation-similar to a Bishop, but over a smaller congregation) and begins learning Gospel teachings and experiences weren’t as simple as they initially seemed, culminating in his son, Weston, coming out to him as gay.

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1665: Race & Mormon Scripture Pt 2 w/ LDS Discussions - 22
02:27:36

Join us for Part 2 of our discussion on Race and the Book of Mormon. Today Mike and John go over the various apologetics for the apparent racism in the Book of Mormon and early Church leaders, from denying those particular scriptures are literal, to saying “everyone was racist back then” and of course, breaking down the various problems each creates for a Church said to be built on the basis of revelation to modern prophets.

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1664: Boy Scouts Bankruptcy and the Mormon Church - An Update w/ Tim Kosnoff
58:12

TRIGGER WARNING: Mentions of Sexual Assault, Rape, Child Abuse

Tim Kosnoff is back to share an update about the Boy Scouts of America Bankruptcy Filing and urgent deadline at the end of 2022 for anyone in California who was abused by a Boy Scout Leader outside of official BSA activities to be able to join a class-action lawsuit before the window is closed forever.

Anyone with questions or think this might apply to themselves or someone they love are encouraged to contact an attorney (ideally one with experience with child abuse claims) to learn more. Tim Kosnoff is a US attorney who has spent the last two decades representing victims of abuse and has graciously volunteered to talk with anyone who may have questions about this case. Contact info provided below.

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Sep 28, 2022
1663: Race and Mormon Scripture Pt 1 w/ LDS Discussions - 21
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Join Mike from LDS discussions.com and John as they discuss race and Mormon scripture. This is part 1 of a 2-part series. We are also grateful to have a few call-in guests for this episode.


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Sep 22, 2022
1662: Losing Faith as the Grandson of an LDS Apostle (Joseph B. Wirthlin) - Greg Gerritsen Pt. 2
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Join us for Part 2 of our 2-part interview with pilot Greg Gerritsen

Join us for Part 2 of our 2-part interview with pilot Greg Gerritsen - grandson of the late and much believed Mormon or LDS Church apostle Joseph B. Wirthlin. In this series, Greg shares with us more of his own journey in the Church including:

  • Greg's mission experiences, many made more difficult by knowledge of his relationship with Elder Wirthlin
  • What Greg learned at Weber that began affecting his testimony
  • How often General Authorities miss out on family activities and events in service to the Church
  • How the Church deals with aging apostles once they begin to lose lucidity
  • How Greg lost his LDS testimony in spite of descending from the Mormon "elite," and what led him to want to tell his story.

Also, Greg shares his opinion on whether his grandfather actually "saw" Jesus Christ as an LDS apostle. We hope you enjoy!!!

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1661: Growing Up As a Grandson of a Mormon Apostle (Joseph B Wirthlin) - Greg Gerritsen Pt 1
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Join us for Part 1 of our 2-part interview with pilot Greg Gerritsen - grandson of the late and much believed Mormon or LDS Church apostle Joseph B. Wirthlin. In this series, Greg shares with us many fascinating stories about his experiences with his grandfather including:

  • The tendency of LDS church members to overly worship General Authorities, along with the unhealthy obsession some Mormons have with "access" to General Authorities.
  • The undying love Elder Wirthlin had for his wife (Elisa), his family, and for football.
  • The extent to which nepotism, cronyism, and patronage play a part in the selection of LDS church General Authorities.
  • The downsides/sacrifices of being an LDS church Apostle/General Authority.
  • The existence of divisions and "cliques" in the LDS church quorum of the 12 Apostles.
  • The unhealthy pressures and expectations put on the children and grandchildren of LDS General Authorities, that often lead to a familial emphasis on "public appearance" over healthy relationships.
  • The "code" that exists within families of LDS General Authorities to never do or say anything to bring dishonor to the family name or church, including speaking out about a loss of faith, which leads many descendants of LDS apostles to lie about and/or hide their loss of faith.

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1660: Why do Ex-Mormons Appear So Angry? w/ John Larsen & Carah Burrell
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[TW] Abuse, suicide

Carah B, John L, and John D go over the tropes and stereotypes of "hateful" ex-Mormons.

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1659: Word of Wisdom w/ LDS Discussions - 20
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John and Mike discuss the origins and influences around Joseph Smith and the Creation of the Word of Wisdom.

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1658: Tough Questions for John Dehlin - Patrick Mason Pt 3
01:22:21

Patrick Mason returns to flip the script and put John under scrutiny!

Patrick Q. Mason holds the Leonard J. Arrington Chair of Mormon History and Culture at USU. He has written or edited several books, including Proclaim Peace: The Restoration’s Answer to an Age of Conflict (Maxwell Institute and Deseret Book, 2021); Mormonism and Violence: The Battles of Zion (Cambridge University Press, 2019); What Is Mormonism? A Student's Introduction (Routledge, 2017); Out of Obscurity: Mormonism since 1945, co-edited with John Turner (Oxford University Press, 2016); Directions for Mormon Studies in the Twenty-First Century (University of Utah Press, 2016); and The Mormon Menace: Violence and Anti-Mormonism in the Postbellum South (Oxford University Press, 2011). He was a Fulbright Scholar in Romania in 2015 and is a past president of the Mormon History Association. Professor Mason is frequently consulted by the national and international media on stories related to Mormon culture and history. He teaches courses on Mormonism, American religious history, and religion, violence, and peacebuilding.

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1657: A Scholarly Defense of Faithful Mormonism - Patrick Mason Pt 2
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Join us today for part 2 of our interview with faithful Mormon scholar Dr. Patrick Mason. In part 2 John and Margi discuss with Patrick his approach to thoughtful, faithful Mormonism as a scholar of Mormon Studies. Patrick Q. Mason holds the Leonard J. Arrington Chair of Mormon History and Culture at USU. He has written or edited several books, including Proclaim Peace: The Restoration’s Answer to an Age of Conflict (Maxwell Institute and Deseret Book, 2021); Mormonism and Violence: The Battles of Zion (Cambridge University Press, 2019); What Is Mormonism? A Student's Introduction (Routledge, 2017); Out of Obscurity: Mormonism since 1945, co-edited with John Turner (Oxford University Press, 2016); Directions for Mormon Studies in the Twenty-First Century (University of Utah Press, 2016); and The Mormon Menace: Violence and Anti-Mormonism in the Postbellum South (Oxford University Press, 2011). He was a Fulbright Scholar in Romania in 2015 and is a past president of the Mormon History Association. Professor Mason is frequently consulted by the national and international media on stories related to Mormon culture and history. He teaches courses on Mormonism, American religious history, and religion, violence, and peacebuilding.

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1656: Becoming a Faithful Scholar - Patrick Mason Pt 1
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LDS Scholar, author & apologist, Patrick Mason, shares his (brief) Mormon Story, including his childhood & teenage years before serving a Mission in Seattle, Washington. Patrick studies history at BYU, then Peacebuilding and Conflict Resolution at Notre Dame. Patrick explains how became nuanced and how he navigates difficult issues with the Mormon Church. He currently holds the Leonard J. Arrington Chair of Mormon History and Culture at Utah State University.

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1655: Changes to the Doctrine & Covenants w/ LDS Discussions -19
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John & Mike discuss changes made to the Doctrine & Covenants, part of the Mormon Canon.

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1654: Taking Down Warren Jeffs - Elissa Wall Pt 3
03:55:39

Elissa Wall is internationally known as the "woman who brought down Warren Jeffs." Never before has she been able to tell her full story, in an un-edited way. This is part 3 of her story, focusing on her efforts to put Warren Jeffs in prison, and how she has rebuilt a life since.

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1653: My Life as an FLDS Child Bride - Elissa Wall Pt. 2
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Elissa Wall is internationally known as the "woman who brought down Warren Jeffs." Never before has she been able to tell her full story, in an un-edited way. This is part 2 of her story, focusing on her forced marriage to her first cousin at age 14 by FLDS prophet Warren Jeffs.

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1652: Growing up in the Shadow of Warren Jeffs - Elissa Wall Pt. 1
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Elissa Wall is internationally known as the "woman who brought down Warren Jeffs." Never before has she been able to tell her full story, in an un-edited way. This is part 1 of her story, focusing on her upbringing in the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

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1651: Priesthood Restoration w/ LDS Discussions - 18
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Join John & Mike as they discuss the timeline for the restoration of the Priesthood compared to the current Church narrative.

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Sep 01, 2022
1650: John Dehlin's Thoughts on Christianity - w/ Steven Pynakker of Mormon Book Reviews
02:00:41

John's in the hot seat AGAIN as Steve Pynakker from YouTube Channel Mormon Book Reviews interviews John on his Spiritual Journey after being excommunicated from the Mormon Church.

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1649: John Dehlin in the Hot Seat - An Interview with Rick Bennett of Gospel Tangents
03:59:29

John takes the hot seat this time as Rick Bennett from YouTube Channel Gospel Tangents does the interviewing. Gospel Tangents is a channel looking to represent a 360 degree view of Mormonism and welcomes guests representing various views and experiences of the Restoration Gospel started by Joseph Smith. 

Rick calls John Dehlin the "grandfather" of Mormon podcasting. Not that he's old, but rather internet-old! Rick asks John about his journey in and out of the Church, dating an Oscar-winning actress in high school, some of his dealing with general authorities, and his excommunication and aftermath. They also discuss his tangles with apologists & neo-apologists, the Swedish Rescue, and whether he really wants people to stay LDS.

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1648: Joseph Smith's First Vision w/ LDS Discussions - 17
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John and Mike discuss historical & theological issues surrounding the accounts of Joseph Smiths "First" Vision.

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Aug 25, 2022
1647: The Neophyte Problem in the Book of Mormon - Dr. Thomas Murphy Pt. 3
02:22:28

Dr. Thomas Murphy presents his fascinating findings regarding 19th Century Native American Christian converts that closely resemble important personages in The Book of Mormon. Join John and Gerardo as they are captivated by these stories and discuss the probability that these are the stories that inspired Joseph Smith’s creation of Book of Mormon characters.

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Aug 22, 2022
1646: Is the Book of Mormon Racist? - Dr. Thomas Murphy Pt. 2
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The Mormon Church has struggled with the engraved racist passages in its most holy book of scripture such as the divine curse that came upon the Lamanites turning them into loathsome people with a skin of blackness. Anthropologist Dr. Thomas Murphy joined John and Gerardo to discuss racism in The Book of Mormon and how Joseph Smith stole native culture, mixed it with racist ideas of his time, published it, and sold it as theirs. We also discuss how these racist ideas contained in the Book of Mormon have transcended into modern Mormon Culture and beliefs.

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1645: Anthropology & Mormonism - Dr. Thomas Murphy
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Renowned anthropologist Dr. Thomas Murphy comes back to update us on his journey engaging with Mormon scholarship and decolonization efforts. Join John and Gerardo as they enter into a fascinating discussion with Dr. Murphy about Book of Mormon apologetics and criticisms through the lens of a Mormon anthropologist's life.

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1644: Mormon Church Discouraging Sex Abuse Victims from Reporting - Survivor Stories
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TRIGGER WARNING: Mentions of Sexual Assault, Rape, Child Abuse

In light of the recent Associated Press article about the Mormon church abuse hotline, we decided to ask our podcast listeners if any of them had ever been discouraged by Mormon leadership from reporting abuse to the police. Hundreds of listeners responded with concrete, and heart-wrenching examples. In Friday's episode, John and Jenn will be reading many of the accounts (scrubbed of identifying information), so as to highlight the longstanding and ongoing problem of abuse cases NOT being reported to police within the Mormon church.

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Aug 19, 2022
1643: The Trinity & the Book of Mormon with John Larsen
01:42:39

Join John Larsen, John Dehlin and Carah Burrell as they discuss how prior to the 1837 edits, The Book of Mormon was squarely trinitarian in its approach to God and Jesus christ. Some trinitarian elements remain in the book today. We will discuss and analyze each Passage to determine what Smith's theology was in the early days of Mormonism.

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1642: Deutero-Isaiah w/ LDS Discussions - 16
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Join John and Mike, from LDS Discussions for an introduction to the multiple authors of Isaiah and what that means for the Book of Mormon.

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Aug 18, 2022
1641: Help Make Utah Mormon Bishops Mandatory Reporters - Protect Kids Rally
01:00:06

Join John as he interviews Utah Representative Angela Romero, Lindsey Lundholm, and Dr. Julie Hanks about the upcoming Protect Kids rally, in favor of requiring clergy to report abuse.

ALL adults across the state, without exception, should be mandated to report child abuse. Representative Angela Romero has championed this legislation over the past two years. She is sponsoring the rally and will be the keynote speaker. Lindsey Lundholm is the grassroots organizer for the Protect Kids rally, and passionate about giving children one more safe line of defense against abuse. As a therapist and member of the LDS faith, Dr. Julie Hanks, stands in support of eliminating the clergy loophole. Please join us at the south steps of the Utah State Capitol this Friday @ 6:30pm. WEAR TEAL in support of SA survivors.

More details here: https://fb.me/e/2G8FC1foR

For those unable to attend in person, the event will be streamed live. In case of inclement weather, the event will be held fully online via Facebook live at 6:30pm on Friday, August 19th. Currently in Utah law, clergy are exempt from mandatory reporting of child abuse. Recent news stories have highlighted how this exception can lead to serious harm for children, and a grey area for clergy.

Let’s make the law clear: protecting children from abuse is the first priority. We are rallying to educate and encourage the state to pass laws that close the clergy loophole. We believe this is the year we can get it passed, to provide a safer Utah for children.

How you can help in the meantime:

🔹 RSVP to the Facebook event, and invite your circle of influence: https://fb.me/e/2G8FC1foR

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🔹 Sign this petition (40k+ signatures): Make LDS Clergy Mandatory Reporters: https://chng.it/6DvQJS5rLF

🔹 DM or email us at mandateclergyreporting@gmail.com to lend support, offer to volunteer, etc.

🔹 Share your story. If you would like to express how you or a loved one has been impacted by the clergy exemption, please follow this link for more details:

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Aug 15, 2022
1640: Boy Scout Abuse and the Mormon Church with Attorney Tim Kosnoff
02:17:14

TRIGGER WARNING: Mentions of Sexual Assault, Rape, Child Abuse

Join John and Gerardo as they interview attorney Tim Kosnoff about the relationship between the Boy Scouts of America abuse epidemic and the Mormon church.

Tim Kosnoff is a US attorney who has spent the last two decades representing victims of abuse.

His introduction to the LDS Church and their lawyers was when he represented Jeremiah Scott who was sexually abused by a serial paedophile Frank Curtis. His work, in this case, appears in Lisa Davis’ legal thriller, The Sins of Brother Curtis.  This case has led to a practice in which he has come to represent over 150 Mormon abuse victims bringing him face to face with the Mormon law machine repeatedly.

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Aug 12, 2022
1639: The Mormon Church Abuse Hot Line with Attorney Tim Kosnoff
02:40:26

TRIGGER WARNING: Mentions of Sexual Assault, Rape, Child Abuse, Suicide

Join John and Gerardo as they interview attorney Tim Kosnoff about the history and evolution of the Mormon church abuse hotline.  This hotline has resurfaced recently in the news in response to an Associated Press news story about the Mormon church (through its abuse hotline) telling two Arizona Mormon bishops not to report abuse to authorities, leading to seven years of child abuse in the abuser’s family.

Tim Kosnoff is a US attorney who has spent the last two decades representing victims of abuse.

His introduction to the LDS Church and their lawyers was when he represented Jeremiah Scott who was sexually abused by a serial pedophile Frank Curtis. His work, in this case, appears in Lisa Davis’ legal thriller, The Sins of Brother Curtis.  This case has led to a practice in which he has come to represent over 150 Mormon abuse victims bringing him face to face with the Mormon law machine repeatedly.

Tim Kosnoff:

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https://www.kosnoff.com https://twitter.com/SexAbuseAttys

https://abusedinscouting.com/

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Aug 12, 2022
1638: The Mormon Abuse AP Article and The Church's Response
03:19:07

TRIGGER WARNING: Mentions of Sexual Assault, Rape, Child Abuse

When a father of a 5-year-old girl who was in counseling with his Mormon Bishop admitted to abusing his daughter, the Bishop followed the guidance of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and called a so-called "helpline" and he was advised by Church Lawyers to tell no one. The man continued to abuse his daughter for 7 more years and went on to assault her newborn sister. The AP has done a deep investigation into the Mormon Church's mishandling of child abuse and their article from last week has spread like wildfire. 

The LDS Church has put its PR department and news media outlets on high alert and they issued an official response and at least two articles trying to respond to the egregious revelations by the Associated Press. 

Join John, Gerardo, and Utah criminal defense attorney Brenton Erickson as they do a deep dive into the AP article and analyze whether the Church adequately explained the alarming allegations in the article. 

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Aug 11, 2022
1637: How the Mormon Church Handles Abuse: A History
03:13:26

TRIGGER WARNING: Mentions of Sexual Assault, Rape, Child Abuse

The bombshell article by the Associated Press about the LDS Church’s abuse cover-up in Arizona and West Virgina has taken the Mormon community by storm. As the kickoff episode to our series covering the Mormon church’s handling of abuse John, Jenn, and Gerardo will react to a shocking 2018 interview by Gina Colvin with attorney Tim Kosnoff about his experiences representing over 150 Mormon sexual abuse victims that have brought him face-to-face with Kirton & McConkie and the Mormon law machine.

On Friday we will be interviewing Tim Kosnoff in studio to discuss the AP article in more detail, provide an update on the church's handling of abuse cases, and to discuss the Boy Scouts of America case. A link to Gina's original interview is in the show notes below.

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Aug 10, 2022
1636: Finding Peace with Infertility - Jessica Parker
02:26:55

Join us as we welcome Jessica Parker to the Thrive Stories podcast to discuss her journey of accepting and finding peace in infertility. As a woman who was raised in a faithful Latter-day Saint home, Jessica absorbed all the messages about the role of women and her divine purpose to bear children. She served a mission, got married in the temple, and gave her time and energy to the church for years. All of this came into question when Jessica began her faith journey--which then led to deconstructing and rebuilding her innate sense of value, identity, and purpose as a human being.

Thrive Stories is a podcast series where Margi (alongside John or Jenn) interviews a member of the community once per month. The interviews are shorter (2-3 hours), story-based, and are focused on a particular aspect of healing and growth AFTER a Mormon faith crisis (thus the THRIVE name). They generally happen on Tuesdays at noon (MST). Some examples of areas of thriving include: Family Relationships, Healthy Boundaries, Finding Community, Finding Meaning/Purpose, Dealing with Grief/Death, Religion after Mormonism, Health Sexuality, Parenting, Improving Physical Health, Identity, Health Marriage/Relationships, Secular Spirituality, Word of Wisdom 2.0, and Women Finding Their Own Voice after Mormonism.

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Aug 10, 2022
1635: The Great Mormon Missionary Decline
02:46:39

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is known globally for its massive missionary force. Over the past year we have received several independent reports suggesting serious distress in the Mormon missionary program, including:

  • A sharp decline in the number of LDS missionaries overall.
  • A sharp decline in the number of young men willing to serve missions.
  • A significant increase in the number of LDS missionaries returning home early.
  • Troubling new rhetoric/teachings from Mormon church leadership suggesting (out of seeming desperation) that Mormon missionary service for young men is mandatory/compulsory.

On Thursday at 4pm (mountain) we will be exploring this issue. If you have any data or stories regarding these (or other) developments regarding Mormon missionary work, please post them as comments below, or email us at: mormonstories@gmail.com and we can include your input in the show (anonymously if requested). Also, please plan to join us live for this show, wherein we hope to accept live video call-ins from viewers.

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Aug 04, 2022
1634: Losing Faith at BYU - Ally Christiansen Pt 2
02:38:26

Ally, a returned-missionary and member of BYU’s elite choir, BYU Singers, describes her struggles with perfectionism, mental health, harmful aspects of BYU culture, and discovering her asexuality in the context of marriage-centric Mormonism.

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Aug 02, 2022
1633: Struggling with Mormon Perfectionism - Ally Christiansen Pt 1
03:15:27

Ally, a returned-missionary and member of BYU’s elite choir, BYU Singers, describes her struggles with perfectionism, mental health, harmful aspects of BYU culture, and discovering her asexuality in the context of marriage-centric Mormonism.

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Aug 02, 2022
1632: The Long Ending of Mark in the Book of Mormon w/ LDS Discussions - 15
52:02

Description: A look at how a late addition to the New Testament ended up in the Book of Mormon and what that tells us about the Book of Mormon's credibility as an ancient text.

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Jul 28, 2022
1631: The Church vs the Gospel: The Infamous Poelman Talk with John Larsen
02:20:46

In 1984 Elder Ron Poelman gave a conference talk that was modified and re-recorded. What was done and why was it done?

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Ronald Poelman – Censored General Conference Talk – Nov 16, 1984

The Gospel and the Church – Sunstone Article

Elder Poelman’s Famous Speech (Sunstone Blog)

Dr. Brown’s 7 Honest Questions for Atheists – My Reply

MS Episode Elbert Peck

Metaphors We Live By, Lakoff & Johnson

Packer’s “Unwritten Order of Things”

MS Native American Women and the Lamanite Myth

Free/Moral Agency and Missions Talk

Book: This is My Doctrine, Charles Harrell

MS Episode: BYU Professor Charles Harrell & Evolution of Mormon Doctrine

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Jul 27, 2022
1630: Toxic Mormon Family Systems - Ari and Adam
04:01:02

Ari talks about growing up in the picture perfect Mormon family, and how it all crumbled when she was excommunicated from that family for speaking out against abuse. In this episode, we discuss how Ari lost her faith in the church when she realized that it, too was rooted in abuse and lies, and set on excommunicating those who spoke out against those things. In her discovery, she concluded that the church creates toxic family systems and even abuse cycles. Ari and Adam are parents to 9 kids, and are now cycle breakers.

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Jul 25, 2022
1629: The Sermon on the Mount in the Book of Mormon w/ LDS Discussions - 14
01:13:45

We dive into the Sermon on the Mount and look at why it appears in the Book of Mormon along with what the changes tell us about the author of the Book of Mormon.

Show Notes: 

LDS Discussions article: 

Track Changes: The Sermon on the Mount – Book of Mormon vs. New Testament: 

Book of Mormon Central explanation: 

Brent Metcalfe MS episode 

MS Episode with Bart Ehrman 

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Jul 21, 2022
1628: The German Mormon Artist Who Went Viral - Jonas Jödicke
04:25:08

Dive into the fascinating story of Jonas Jödicke with John Dehlin and Nemo the Mormon. Born in the church in Germany, Jonas discovered an artistic talent which would lead his work to be adored all over the world. At the same time, Jonas had begun to discover his sexuality and what that would mean for his place in Mormonism.

Show Notes:

Jonas Jödicke (Fantasy Art) (@jojoesart) • Instagram photos and videos

Nemo the Mormon - YouTube

Thrive Beyond Religion

Musikalischer Abend Der Verlorene Sohn am 8. Dezember 2018 in Berlin

Moroni and the Swastika: Mormons in Nazi Germany: Nelson, David Conley 

https://mormonstories.org/?s=scrupulosity

1144-1146: A More Effective Approach to Masturbation and Pornography: For Teens and Adults - Mormon Stories

National Suicide Prevention Lifeline or dial 988 (US)

http://Cesletter.org

MormonThink

 

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Jul 21, 2022
1627: Waking Up from the Mormon Dream - Linda Barney w/ Margi Dehlin
03:18:11

What happens when a true believing mormon mom discovers that two of her “future missionary” sons are gay/queer/nonbinary? Just when Linda Barney thought she had the perfect life planned for her family, she discovered that letting her kids be exactly who they are and loving them unconditionally was a far happier and healthier path to follow than the one she had always been taught to believe in. Join us for this compelling Thrive Stories episode about Parenting LGBTQIA children.

 

Thrive Stories is a new podcast series where Margi (alongside John or Jenn) will be interviewing a member of the community twice per month.  The interviews will be shorter (1-2 hours), story-based, but will be focused on a particular aspect of healing and growth AFTER a Mormon faith crisis (thus the THRIVE name).  They will happen on Tuesdays at noon (MST). Some examples of areas of thriving include:  Family Relationships, Healthy Boundaries, Finding Community, Finding Meaning/Purpose, Dealing with Grief/Death, Religion after Mormonism, Health Sexuality, Parenting, Improving Physical Health, Identity, Health Marriage/Relationships, Secular Spirituality, Word of Wisdom 2.0, and Women Finding Their Own Voice after Mormonism.

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Jul 20, 2022
1626: The Tower of Babel and Mormon Scripture w/ LDS Discussions - 13
01:00:24

We review the historicity of the Tower of Babel and how the story is written into the Book of Mormon and directly leads to the stones that Joseph Smith claims were buried with the gold plates.

Show notes:

http://ldsdiscussions.com/babel

David Bokovoy MS episodes

MS Bart Ehrman episode

Noah’s Flood – w/ Simon Southerton

Adam and Eve MS episode with LDS Discussions

BOM translation episode with LDS Discussions

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Jul 15, 2022
1625: Ellee Duke and Auz Engemann Part 2 - Going Deeper After Mormonism
02:48:33

Singer songwriter Ellee Duke and her husband Auz Engemann share what life was like growing up in affluent (even idyllic) Mormon communities (Provo and Draper, Utah) and why they decided to eventually distance themselves from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Ellee explains how she got her start in music, why she turned down American idol, and what challenges she had to overcome to finally bring her career into alignment with what she truly wanted—without losing herself in the expectations of others.

Other topics include Auz’ connections to big names like Larry David and the Osmonds, his struggle with Adderall addiction, the dangers of bishop roulette, and Ellee losing her gay uncle to suicide. 

We also premiere Ellee’s newest single about her Mormon faith crisis entitled “Deeper” - available on Spotify.

Ellee’s TikTok & Instagram: @elleeduke

Ellee Duke Web site

Paul Cardall MS Episode

Jessie Funk MS Episode

Mindy Gledhill MS Episodes

Tyler Glenn MS Episode

Wayne Sermon MS Episode

Sarah Sample MS Episode

Ellee Duke the Singer Who Said No to American Idol

"Deeper" by Ellee Duke 

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Jul 15, 2022
1624: Ellee Duke and Auz Engemann Part 1 - Our Mormon Story
03:08:22

Singer songwriter Ellee Duke and her husband Auz Engemann share what life was like growing up in affluent (even idyllic) Mormon communities (Provo and Draper, Utah) and why they decided to eventually distance themselves from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Ellee explains how she got her start in music, why she turned down American idol, and what challenges she had to overcome to finally bring her career into alignment with what she truly wanted—without losing herself in the expectations of others.

Other topics include Auz’ connections to big names like Larry King, David and the Osmonds, his struggle with Adderall addiction, the dangers of bishop roulette, and Ellee losing her gay uncle to suicide. 

We also premiere Ellee’s newest single about her Mormon faith crisis entitled “Deeper” - available on Spotify.

Singer songwriter Ellee Duke and her husband Auz Engemann share what life was like growing up in affluent (even idyllic) Mormon communities (Provo and Draper, Utah) and why they decided to eventually distance themselves from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Ellee explains how she got her start in music, why she turned down American idol, and what challenges she had to overcome to finally bring her career into alignment with what she truly wanted—without losing herself in the expectations of others. Other topics include Auz’ connections to big names like Larry David and the Osmonds, his struggle with Adderall addiction, the dangers of bishop roulette, and Ellee losing her gay uncle to suicide.

Pt 2: https://youtu.be/mzepGTUAdXY

Ellee’s TikTok & Instagram: @elleeduke

Ellee Duke Web site

Paul Cardall MS Episode

Jessie Funk MS Episode

Mindy Gledhill MS Episodes

Tyler Glenn MS Episode

Wayne Sermon MS Episode

Sarah Sample MS Episode

Ellee Duke the Singer Who Said No to American Idol

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Jul 15, 2022
1623: The Global Flood and Mormon Scripture w/ LDS Discussions - 12
01:30:41

How the story of Noah, the arc, and the global flood is necessary for the veracity of Mormon scripture/doctrine, and a closer look at the historicity of the Biblical accounts of Noah and the flood.

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1622: Samantha Shelley - Self-Healing after a Mormon Faith Crisis w/ Margi Dehlin
04:29:02

Join Margi and John for our next episode of Thrive Stories. Samantha Shelley (co-host of Zelph on the Shelf) will be stopping by the studio to share her journey from childhood growing up in England in an atheist/agnostic home through her teen years where she converted to Mormonism and into young adulthood when Sam left the church and began to rebuild her life and sense of self. We will talk about the wounds that emerged during those years as well as how Sam coped. If you have ever wondered about what it means to heal ourselves, this is the conversation for you! If you are interested in hearing more about reparenting, conscious coping, healing, or if you just want to hear some wisdom from Samantha--we would love to have you join us!

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1621: Suffering Abuse in the Shadow of Mormon Prophets - Christine Burton
03:46:26

Christine Carol Robinson Burton is the niece of the late Mormon prophet Gordon B. Hinckley, and the daughter of Oliver Preston Robinson and Christine Hinckley Robinson.  Christine's father, Preston or "Pres" was a prominent professor of advertising a the University of Utah, general manager of the Deseret News Publishing Company and editor of the Deseret News, and a personal mentor to the late Mormon prophet Thomas S. Monson.  Preston was mentioned seven different times in the LDS Church-approved biography of Thomas S. Monson.

In Christine's heartbreaking and inspiring story, she relates several tragic Mormon-related stories, including:

  • Experiencing psychological, physical and sexual abuse at the hands of her parents.
  • Feeling deep confusion trying to reconcile her parents' abuse with her own self-worth, given that her parents/family were publicly lauded on multiple occasions by several Mormon prophets as being exemplary.  This included her father being called as mission president in England, and both of her parents receiving their Second Anointing after the abuse.
  • Her attempts to tell both Gordon B. Hinckley and Thomas S. Monson (as sitting prophets/apostles) about the abuse she experienced at the hands of her parents - wherein she was told by both that she needed to "put it behind her."
  • The death by suicide of her gay son.
  • Her loss of Mormon faith.
  • Her commitment to helping others heal and grow after Mormonism.

We hope you find value in this heartbreaking and inspiring episode.

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1620: Adam & Eve and Mormon Truth Claims w/ LDS Discussions - 11
01:25:55

A look at the historicity of Adam and Eve and the impact that scholarship has on the scriptures of Mormonism.

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1619: The Plight of a Young Mormon Bishop in the U.K. - YouTube's "Priesthood Dispatches"
05:01:15

Called as an LDS/Mormon Bishop in the U.K. at just 23 years old, we will explore the effect such a calling has on someone so young. Join John Dehlin and Nemo the Mormon as they take time to get to know the man behind “Priesthood Dispatches”! PD is a man of many stories, and we can’t wait to explore them with you all!

If you or anyone you know is affected by abuse, please reach out to the numbers below:

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For help in the USA 800.656.HOPE

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  • Priesthood Dispatches: https://youtube.com/channel/UCx5yNRufseSR_JxYC8GJ2iA

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Jun 30, 2022
1618: Growing Up in Polygamy - Sam and Melissa Zitting Wyson Part 2
03:43:15

Join John and Jenn as they hear the unique Mormon Story of Sam and Melissa Zitting Wyson. Sam grew up in the FLDS church in Short Creek. After leaving the FLDS at age 18 he converted to the mainstream LDS church. He then met and fell in love with his beautiful wife, Melissa.

Listen in part two as Sam and Melissa begin to question doctrine of the LDS faith and their transition together out of the mainstream LDS church.

Listen in part two as Sam and Melissa begin to question doctrine of the LDS faith and their transition together out of the mainstream LDS church.

You can find them on their amazing YouTube channel Growing Up In Polygamy! https://www.youtube.com/c/GrowingUpinPolygamy

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Jun 27, 2022
1617: Growing Up in Polygamy - Sam & Melissa Zitting Wyson Part 1
02:52:26

Join John and Jenn as they hear the unique Mormon Story of Sam and Melissa Zitting Wyson. Sam grew up in the FLDS church in Short Creek. After leaving the FLDS at age 18 he converted to the mainstream LDS church. He then met and fell in love with his beautiful wife, Melissa.

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Listen in part two as Sam and Melissa begin to question doctrine of the LDS faith and their transition together out of the mainstream LDS church.

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Jun 27, 2022
1616: Mormons Respond to Keep Sweet: Pray and Obey on Netflix - Warren Jeffs vs. Joseph Smith
03:35:35

To what extent are Joseph Smith & Warren Jeffs similar vs. different?

The new Netflix documentary called "Keep Sweet: Pray and Obey" deals with the history of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and its current prophet Warren Jeffs.

In today's episode, John and Jenn are joined by:

  • Sam and Melissa from the super popular "Growing Up in Polygamy" YouTube channel.  Sam was raised in the FLDS church under Rulon and Warren Jeffs, and Melissa was raised in the mainstream LDS/Mormon church.
  • Joanna, also raised in the FLDS church.

The focus for today's episode will be the similarities and differences between Mormon church founder Joseph Smith and FLDS church prophet Warren Jeffs.

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Jun 24, 2022
1615: How the Book of Mormon was Composed w/ LDS Discussions - 10
02:16:37

A recap of how scholars can show the Book of Mormon is a 19th century text and a look at how Joseph Smith could have produced it.

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Jun 23, 2022
1614: Mormons and the Increasingly Toxic Great Salt Lake Lake with John Larsen
02:32:49

The Great Salt Lake is currently facing an environmental disaster that threatens the seat of Mormonism. What is the responsibility of the church and how will they respond? Join us for an episode with John Larsen, Carah, and John about this fascinating discussion.

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Jun 22, 2022
1613: Persecuted by The Mormon Church - A Modern Case of Lying for the Lord - Douglas & Brennen
07:14:01

Join us for an epic but daunting story of the Mormon Church going out of its way to persecute and discipline a same-sex married and non-endowed member who was trying to live a happy life outside the fear and shame of Mormon orthodoxy. With audio recordings of phone calls, meetings, and the Disciplinary Council itself, we will show the constant misrepresentations, deflections, and gaslighting perpetrated by the Bishop and the Stake President to protect the good name of the church. A modern case of lying for the Lord.

After moving out of his home-Stake, not attending church for 4 years, and 6 months after posting on Facebook about getting married to the love of his life, Brennen was handed a letter at his door. He was utterly stunned and confused as he read the document signed by his childhood bishop who was summoning him to a Disciplinary Council on the basis of his same-sex marriage.

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Jun 22, 2022
1612: Evangelical to ex-Christian - Rachel Wunderli pt. 2
01:57:12

Join us as we continue Rachel’s story through her LDS faith crisis to Evangelical Worship Leader to Ex-Christian.

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Jun 20, 2022
1611: From Mormon to Evangelical Christian - Rachel Wunderli pt 1
03:13:40

Join John and Jenn as we hear Part 1 of Rachel’s Mormon Story! From growing up on the east coast, the difficulties of moving to Utah in high school and the pressure of a temple marriage.

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Jun 20, 2022
1610: The King James Bible Problem in the Book of Mormon w/ LDS Discussions - 09
01:24:58

Join John and Mike as they discuss the mistranslations in the King James Version that end up in the Book of Mormon and the problems it presents.

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Jun 15, 2022
1609: Anachronisms in the Book of Mormon w/ LDS Discussions - 08
02:15:53

Join John and Mike from LDS Discussions as they discuss the Anachronisms in the Book of Mormon!

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Jun 07, 2022
1608: Parenting After Mormonism with Rachel - Margi & John Dehlin
02:05:22

Join Margi and John for our next episode of Thrive Stories this coming Tuesday at noon (MST).

Rachel of PostMormon Parenting on Instagram will be joining us in the studio!  Rachel was born and raised in a Mormon family on the east coast. She spent her youth preparing to be a “mother in Zion.” She had three children before her faith transition, and her parenting style was modeled after the examples she found in the scriptures and at church. During and after her faith transition, she realized that this style was doing more harm than good, and things needed to change.  Hear her story and  WHAT has changed in her parenting style on Thrive Stories!

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Jun 07, 2022
1607: Growing up with Teal Swan - Diana Hansen Ribera
03:36:54

Teal Swan is a highly controversial New Age guru with millions of online followers.  Teal specifically markets her services to vulnerable, often suicidal individuals, and advances highly controversial and/or damaging beliefs and techniques including:

  • Encouraging graphic suicidal ideation.
  • Nurturing false memories and false accusations of ritual abuse by family members through thoroughly debunked recovered memory techniques.
  • Waterboarding as a trauma treatment.
  • Downplaying the severity of death by suicide by likening it to “hitting the reset button” into a future reincarnated life.

Teal’s practices are covered more thoroughly in the recently released Hulu series entitled “The Deep End.” Several deaths by suicide have been attributed to Teal’s practices.

In today’s episode we interview Diana Hansen Ribera, who was one of Teal’s closest childhood and adolescent friends.  In her interview, Diana provides thorough detail to challenge Teal’s false claims of being a victim of satanic ritual abuse and sex trafficking as a child, and explains how Teal developed her coercion skills and harmful techniques with Diana — that Teal would eventually employ on a broader scale.

Warning: This interview contains graphic and disturbing content.  Viewer and listener discretion is advised.

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Jun 06, 2022
1606: Mormon Cosmology - Science vs. Mormonism - w/ Dr. Simon Southerton
02:52:51

Join Simon, John, and Gerardo as they discuss Mormon Cosmology as it relates to the origin and development of the universe based on LDS teachings and scriptures.

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Jun 04, 2022
1605: Responding to Mormon Apostle David Bednar's National Press Club Conference - Pt 2
04:09:41

Join us for the last part of our response to Elder David Bednar's most interesting section of his National Press Club Conference in which he is questioned about the declining LDS membership in the US, same-sex marriage, and the $100 billion Church fund.

John, Jenn, RFM, and Gerardo will be discussing Elder Bednar's remarks and what he left out!

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Jun 02, 2022
1604: Joseph Smith's Surrounding Influences in the Book of Mormon w/ LDS Discussions - 07
01:59:34
May 31, 2022
1603: The Tower of Babel w/ John Larsen
02:23:31

Join John Dehlin, John Larsen and Carah Burrell tonight at 7:00PM MT as they discuss the Tower of Babel as only John Larsen can!

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May 31, 2022
1602: Responding to Mormon Apostle David Bednar’s National Press Club Presentation
03:21:06

Please join us today at 2pm mountain as we respond to Mormon Apostle David Bednar’s recent National Press Club conference in Washington DC. We will be welcoming call-ins from our audience.

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May 31, 2022
1601: Becoming a Post-Christian Improv Comic - Holly Laurent Pt. 2
03:44:57

Follow Holly's journey as John, Jenn and Holly discuss her faith crisis and building her comedy career beyond religion.

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May 26, 2022
1600: Growing up as Evangelical Christian - Holly Laurent Pt. 1
03:27:09

Join John, Jenn and Holly Laurent from MEGA Podcast as we hear her high demand upbringing from an Evangelical religious space.

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May 25, 2022
1599: Tight vs Loose Translation of the Book of Mormon w/ LDS Discussions - 06
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May 24, 2022
1598: Overcoming Religious Shame and Scrupulosity - Marc Oslund
02:07:01

Join Margi and John for our next episode of Thrive Stories tomorrow, Tuesday May 24th, at noon (MST). Marc Oslund will be joining us in the studio! Marc spent most of his young adult life and the entirety of his time in the Mormon church trying to fit in. After converting to Mormonism, Marc’s tendency to be hard on himself grew into scrupulosity--a form of religious OCD that made his self-worth plummet. Marc began to believe that he was never good enough--a belief that took a steep toll on his mental health. After years of suffering, Marc acquired skills that aligned with principles of innate worth, shame resilience, mindfulness, self-compassion that allowed him to overcome his scrupulosity. This episode conveys Marc’s experience ending the hustle to find worth and the lessons learned in the process of coming home to himself.

Disclaimer: although Marc is a mental health professional and therapeutic principles are conveyed in this episode, this not meant to be considered mental health treatment or professional advice.

Thrive Stories is a new podcast series where Margi (alongside John or Jenn) will be interviewing a member of the community twice per month. The interviews will be shorter (1-2 hours), story-based, but will be focused on a particular aspect of healing and growth AFTER a Mormon faith crisis (thus the THRIVE name). They will happen on Tuesdays at noon (MST). Some examples of areas of thriving include: Family Relationships, Healthy Boundaries, Finding Community, Finding Meaning/Purpose, Dealing with Grief/Death, Religion after Mormonism, Health Sexuality, Parenting, Improving Physical Health, Identity, Health Marriage/Relationships, Secular Spirituality, Word of Wisdom 2.0, and Women Finding Their Own Voice after Mormonism. If you would like to nominate someone you know who would be a great candidate for a THRIVE interview, please nominate them (or yourself) HERE.

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May 24, 2022
1597: Becoming Maven - Pt. 2
02:51:18
May 19, 2022
1596: Maven's Mormon Story - Pt. 1
03:58:19

Tune in today at 1pm MST to join John, Jenn and Maven, from Mormonism Live, for part one of Maven's Mormon Story. Her story begins in rural Utah, next door to Fundamental Mormons, and later serving an LDS mission.

In part 2, join John, Jenn and Maven as we explore the Making of Maven. She takes us through her faith crisis and reconstruction with touching stories, beautiful insight and hope.

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May 18, 2022
1595: Mormon Church Defends Minnesota Leader of Sexual Assault
02:27:27

What would you think if your Church Leaders were on the defendant's witness list of your child's sex abuser? In this episode, we will discuss a disturbing Mormon sex abuse case in which the Branch and Stake presidents submitted affidavits that would have aided the dismissal of new charges brought against Elders Quorum President and registered sex offender Michael Adam Davis.

Join us this Tuesday evening as LDS Member Michael Benjamin walks us through the details of this alarming case in which The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, once again, chooses to protect the institution over sexually abused children.

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May 18, 2022
1594: DNA and the Book of Mormon w/ LDS Discussions - 05
01:59:51
Join John, Mike, and Gerardo, as they break down DNA and the Book of Mormon, and how these tell two different stories.

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May 17, 2022
1593: Mormon Faith Crisis Journey TEDx w/ Anthony Miller
01:13:33

Join John and Anthony Miller as he shares about his Mormon Faith Crisis TEDx talk with us LIVE this coming Monday, May 16th, at 2:30 PM MST.

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May 17, 2022
1592: Leaving the LDS Church as a Youth in The Netherlands w/ Nemo
03:06:13

Join our new European Producer Nemo the Mormon as he interviews Christina, who left the Mormon Church as a Youth in The Netherlands.

Christina will share with us how an encounter with Dieter F. Uchtdorf planted the seed of her faith transition, what the state of the LDS church in The Netherlands is, and share the LDS experience from a Dutch perspective!

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May 12, 2022
1590: Lost 116 Pages w/ LDS Discussions - 04
02:26:27

Join us for another fascinating conversation with LDS discussions on the lost 116 pages of the Book of Mormon.

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May 10, 2022
1589: What to Offer Your Children After a Faith Shift - w/ Jon Ogden
02:04:48

Join Margi and John for our next episode of Thrive Stories this coming Tuesday at noon (MST).   One of the most pressing questions parents ask after a faith shift is, “What do I do about my kids?” Without orthodoxy, the way forward feels disorienting. In this interview, Jon Ogden, co-founder of UpliftKids.org, suggests that a strong foundation already exists in the form of science and wisdom. With this foundation, we don’t have to feel like we’re starting with nothing.

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May 10, 2022
1588: Noah's Flood w/ Dr. Simon Southerton
02:12:19
Join us for an epic episode on the Mormon teaching of Noah and the worldwide flood with Dr. Simon Southerton and renowned geologist Dr. David Montgomery, professor of geology at the University of Washington in Seattle. We will discuss the probability of Noah’s flood being a factual event in history and how the Mormon Church has dealt with this issue. Dr. Southerton will share an interesting Australian perspective regarding the flood.

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May 06, 2022
1587: Critical Thinking After Mormonism with Randy Bell and RFM
02:21:35

Join John, Jenn, Randy Bell and RFM as we go through Randy’s 15 steps of critical thinking for Mormons. What steps did you skip as an active believing Mormon?

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May 05, 2022
1586: The Mormon Plan of Salvation - Extended Edition with John Larsen
03:06:25

Join John Larsen, Carah Burrell, and John Dehlin for an extensive exploration of the implications of the LDS Church’s Plan of Salvation.

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May 04, 2022
1585: Book of Mormon Translation w/ LDS Discussions - 03
02:59:39

Join John, Jenn and Mike from LDS Discussions as we break down the “translation” of the Book of Mormon.

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May 03, 2022
1584: Coming Out at BYU Graduation - Jillian Orr
03:01:15

Jillian Orr became a national news story last week when she flashed rainbow colors sewn into her graduation gown during her graduation from Brigham Young University - coming out as bisexual. This is her story.

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Apr 30, 2022
1583: Golden Plates and the Book of Mormon w/ LDS Discussions - 02
02:06:52

Today John is joined by LDS Discussions and Nemo to review the history of the "Golden Plates" as they relate to the creation of the Book of Mormon.

The discussion is based on the essay entitled "Book of Mormon: Gold Plates of the Book of Mormon" which was created on the LDS Discussions website.

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Apr 28, 2022
1582: Redefining Gender Roles after Mormonism - Dre Robinson's THRIVE Story
02:03:39

Join Margi and John for our next episode of Thrive Stories this coming Tuesday at noon (MST). Come listen and participate in the conversation as we talk to Dre Robinson, cofounder of BeautyLab.  Dre will  talk a bit about her life growing up as a smart, assertive, and driven woman existing in a structure and culture that had a very limiting beliefs about women and their roles in the home, life, and the world. As things began to fall apart, Dre came into her own and began embracing and redefining herself in ways that have allowed her to show up in her relationships and in life in an integrated and honoring way. .Join us in a conversation about gender roles and the limiting structure of the gender binary! Thrive Stories is a new podcast series where Margi (alongside John or Jenn) will be interviewing a member of the community twice per month.  The interviews will be shorter (1-2 hours), story-based, but will be focused on a particular aspect of healing and growth AFTER a Mormon faith crisis (thus the THRIVE name).  They will happen on Tuesdays at noon (MST). Some examples of areas of thriving include:  Family Relationships, Healthy Boundaries, Finding Community, Finding Meaning/Purpose, Dealing with Grief/Death, Religion after Mormonism, Health Sexuality, Parenting, Improving Physical Health, Identity, Health Marriage/Relationships, Secular Spirituality, Word of Wisdom 2.0, and Women Finding Their Own Voice after Mormonism.

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Apr 26, 2022
1581: From TBM to RFM Pt. 2 - How Radio Free Mormon Lost his Faith
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Join John and Jenn for part two of our interview with popular Mormon podcaster Radio Free Mormon, wherein he shares with us the story of how he lost his Mormon faith.

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A Special Evening with Radio Free Mormon - 4/26/2022 in American Fork, UT
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Mormon Stories Donors,

We are super excited to let you know that we have organized a special event for you next week in Salt Lake City.

Beloved Mormon podcaster Radio Free Mormon (RFM) (Radio Free Mormon podcast and Mormonism Live Podcast) will be in town, and so we have scheduled an intimate evening with him...and YOU (our beloved donors)!

The event will be held on April 26th at 7pm in American Fork, Utah.  There will be some treats, RFM will be preparing some remarks, and then we will invite you to ask RFM any question you want.

It should be a fun evening, and most importantly, it will be your/our chance to let RFM know how much he has meant to you/us over the years.

Please join us if you are able. Seating will be limited (150 max).  Cost is $15/person and proceeds from the event will go to cut RFM a big fat check to thank him for his amazing work.  You can register for the event here.  The exact address for the event will be emailed to you register, a few days before the event.

We hope to see some of you there!  And thank you for donating to support Mormon Stories Podcast.  We couldn't do it without you.

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Apr 20, 2022
1580: Finding the Fire Within - Holly Ashton Wallin's THRIVE Story
02:33:20

Join Margi and John for our next episode of Thrive Stories this coming Tuesday at noon (MST). Come listen and participate in the conversation as we talk to Holly Ashton Wallin. Holly will talk about the role of passion in her life, beginning as a young girl where she was a dreamer, a lover and a fighter. She will take us through how she lost herself along the way--and with that, her passion. Holly eventually came to experience the loss of her marriage, her faith, her career path, and her health. Witness how Holly rebuilt her identity and her life after loss by connecting back to that fire within. What does it mean to live “a life on fire?” Join us to find out!

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Apr 19, 2022
1579: Natasha Helfer's Sex-Communication - One Year Later
02:13:28

John John, Jenn, and special guest Aimee Heffernan as we check in with Natasha Helfer on the one year anniversary of her excommunication from the Mormon church, largely in response to her work as a licensed sex therapist to Mormons and ex-Mormons.

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Apr 19, 2022
1578: Sandra Tanner’s Journey with the Book of Mormon - An Interview with Chris Thomas
01:38:58

In this interview, Sandra Tanner talks about her journey with the book of Mormon from an LDS member who believed the Book of Mormon to be scripture, to a born-again Christian who continued to use the Book of Mormon as scripture, to her doubts about the Book of Mormon, to her ultimate rejection of the book as Scripture, and finally to her later work as a critic of the book.

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Apr 18, 2022
1577: The TRUTH About Joseph Smith's Polygamy w/ Sandra Tanner - pt 3
02:14:42

Legendary researcher Sandra Tanner joins us for our third episode on Joseph Smith's polygamy and how the LDS church deals with this controversial subject. In this final episode, we will discuss the final part of Doctrine and Covenants 132, which tends to go unnoticed by members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

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Apr 15, 2022
1576: Cara Santa Maria’s Mormon Story
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Cara Santa Maria is a Los Angeles Area Emmy and Knight Foundation Award winning journalist, science communicator, television personality, author, and podcaster. Cara is the science correspondent on National Geographic's popular television series Brain Games as well as the creator and host of the weekly science podcast Talk Nerdy with Cara Santa Maria. In addition to co-hosting the long-standing Skeptics' Guide to the Universe podcast, she also coauthored the Skeptics Guide to the Universe book.

Cara was also raised Mormon. This is her story.

*Content Warning: This episode includes discussion of suicidal ideation. If you need help, reach out:

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Apr 14, 2022
1575: Joseph Smith and Treasure Digging w/ LDS Discussions - 01
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Over the last decade the Mormon Church has officially admitted that Joseph Smith and his family believed in and practiced treasure-seeking using folk magic and occult methods. However, many people overlook how these illegal and disreputable practices are closely related to the stories that Joseph would tell later, including the creation of the Book of Mormon. In this episode, Mike from LDS Discussions talks to us about Joseph Smith’s treasure digging and how it relates to the Book of Mormon story and the Church as a whole.
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Apr 13, 2022
1574: How Mormonism Saved an Evangelical’s Life - Steven Pynakker Pt. 5
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1573: An Evangelical Consults the Mormon Church: Steven Pynakker Pt. 4
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Join us for part 4 of our interview with Steven Pynakker, host of Mormon Book Reviews.

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Apr 07, 2022
1572: What an Evangelical Loves about Mormonism - Steven Pynakker Pt. 3
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Join us for part 3 of our interview with Steven Pynakker, host of Mormon Book Reviews.

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Apr 06, 2022
1571: How the Book of Mormon Was Created - Evangelical Steven Pynakker Pt. 2
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Have you ever wanted a credible explanation for how the Book of Mormon was created?

Steven Pynakker knows more about Mormonism and Mormon history than 99.9% of all Mormons…. combined. Join us today as Steven shares his views on how the Book of Mormon was created.

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Apr 05, 2022
1570: An Evangelical Christian Encounters Mormonism - Steven Pynakker Pt. 1
01:28:42

Steven Pynakker, host of the Mormon Book Reviews YouTube channel, shares with us his story of how he gained an avid interest in Mormonism growing up as an Evangelical Christian.

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Apr 04, 2022
1569: From Mormon Prepper to Ex-Mormon - Emma Pt. 3
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Since the founding of Mormonism in 1830 there has been a core belief in the imminent 2nd coming of Jesus Christ (thus the "Latter-day Saints" portion of the Mormon church's official name). Within modern Mormonism over the past few decades there has been an increasing trend towards "end times" preparedness - wherein ultra-orthodox Mormons begin preparing for the 2nd coming of Jesus by selling their 401k's and retirement plans, moving to rural areas, attending "Prepper" conferences like "Preparing a People," building fortresses, stockpiling food/weapons/ammunition/tents/trailers, denying traditional health care to children, etc., and preparing (i.e., "prepping") for the arrival of Jesus. This movement has been at best benign (for a few), but for many has led to extreme behaviors, divided families, financial ruin, a host of emerging "prophets" (e.g., charlatans) who prey on this mentality (e.g., Julie Rowe), and in some cases murder (e.g., Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow story).

Emma was raised in a Mormon Prepper household. In Part 3 of our 3-part series with Emma, she discusses "coming out" as lesbian while as BYU student, and how her emerging LGBTQ identity, along with family rejection and problems with her family's "Prepper" beliefs, led her to lose faith in the Mormon church, and to become alienated from her orthodox Mormon family.

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Mar 30, 2022
1568: A Mormon Missionary in the Philippines - Emma Pt. 2
01:53:06

In Part 2 of our 3-part interview with Emma about being raised as a Mormon "prepper," Emma discusses what it was like to serve an LDS mission in the Philippines, which included a corrupt wherein missionaries were encouraged to baptize impoverished Filipinos at any cost and by any  means necessary, largely out of a desire to inflate mission statistics. See Parts 1 and 3 of this series with Emma to learn about the Mormon "Prepper" movement.

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Mar 29, 2022
1567: Growing up as a Mormon Prepper - Emma Pt. 1
02:22:03

Since the founding of Mormonism in 1830 there has been a core belief in the imminent 2nd coming of Jesus Christ (thus the "Latter-day Saints" portion of the Mormon church's official name).  Within modern Mormonism over the past few decades there has been an increasing trend towards "end times" preparedness - wherein ultra-orthodox Mormons begin preparing for the 2nd coming of Jesus by selling their 401k's and retirement plans, moving to rural areas, attending "Prepper" conferences like "Preparing a People," building fortresses, stockpiling food/weapons/ammunition/tents/trailers, denying traditional health care to children, etc., and preparing (i.e., "prepping") for the arrival of Jesus.  This movement has been at best benign (for a few), but for many has led to extreme behaviors, divided families, financial ruin, a host of emerging "prophets" (e.g., charlatans) who prey on this mentality (e.g., Julie Rowe), and in some cases murder (e.g., Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow story).

Emma was raised in a Mormon Prepper household.  In Part 1 of our 3 part series with Emma, she discusses what it was like to grow up in a Mormon Prepper household.

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Mar 28, 2022
1566: Improving Mental Health After Mormonism - Jake Bellenfant's THRIVE Story
02:00:48

Join Margi, John, and Gerardo for our next episode of Thrive Stories this coming Tuesday at noon (MST). Come listen and participate in the conversation as we talk to Jake Bellenfant. Find out how Jake has processed the damaging experiences of his youth and young adulthood growing up gay in the church and how he has reclaimed his own mental health. In addition, listen to how Jake has navigated grief and loss in witnessing both the death of his mother and the loss of his community. Jake is now a mental health advocate, studying at the #1 ranked Psychiatric Mental Health Nurse Practitioner program at Vanderbilt University. He aspires to improve the mental health of populations across the lifespan and in marginalized groups that are struggling with mental illness-- particularly those who have suffered the mental health effects of undue influence, high demand belief systems, abusive family dynamics, and religious trauma.

Thrive Stories is a new podcast series where Margi (alongside John and Carah) will be interviewing a member of the community twice per month. The interviews will be shorter (1-2 hours), story-based, but will be focused on a particular aspect of healing and growth AFTER a Mormon faith crisis (thus the THRIVE name). They will happen on Tuesdays at noon (MST). Some examples of areas of thriving include: Family Relationships, Healthy Boundaries, Finding Community, Finding Meaning/Purpose, Dealing with Grief/Death, Religion after Mormonism, Health Sexuality, Parenting, Improving Physical Health, Identity, Health Marriage/Relationships, Secular Spirituality, Word of Wisdom 2.0, and Women Finding Their Own Voice after Mormonism.

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Mar 24, 2022
1565: Mormon Polygamy Apologetics w/ Sandra Tanner Pt. 2
03:45:41

We've whipped up another epic episode discussing the context left out of LDS church curriculum around early Mormon polygamy. Sandra Tanner joins Mormon Stories as a special guest to address comments made on the followHIM podcast by church historian Kate Holbrook. Join John, Sandra, and Gerardo live Monday at 4:30pm MT.

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Mar 23, 2022
1564: Rodney Meldrum and the Book of Mormon Heartland Model Pt. 3
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Join us for Part 3 of our interview with Rodney Meldrum, wherein we discuss his beliefs regarding the Book of Mormon Heartland model.

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Mar 17, 2022
1563: Redefining Sexuality and Body Autonomy - Faith Erickson's THRIVE Story
02:37:28

Join Margi, John, and Carah for our next episode of Thrive Stories this coming Tuesday at noon (MST). Come listen and participate in the conversation as we discuss sexuality, body confidence, and owning our own stories from this minute forward. Faith has found deeper meaning and exhilaration in celebrating sexuality and body autonomy in her life after Mormonism.

Thrive Stories is a new podcast series where Margi (alongside John and Carah) will be interviewing a member of the community twice per month.  The interviews will be shorter (1-2 hours), story-based, but will be focused on a particular aspect of healing and growth AFTER a Mormon faith crisis (thus the THRIVE name).  They will happen on Tuesdays at noon (MST). Some examples of areas of thriving include:  Family Relationships, Healthy Boundaries, Finding Community, Finding Meaning/Purpose, Dealing with Grief/Death, Religion after Mormonism, Health Sexuality, Parenting, Improving Physical Health, Identity, Health Marriage/Relationships, Secular Spirituality, Word of Wisdom 2.0, and Women Finding Their Own Voice after Mormonism.

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Mar 16, 2022
1562: Mormonism and Logical Fallacies Pt. 1 - w/ John Larsen
02:06:49

Join us for Part 1 of a multi-part series where John Larsen discusses Mormonism and logical fallacies. We talk about how fallacious arguments are natural to the human brain and how people in and outside of the Mormon church use bad reasons to keep their line of thinking alive.

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Mar 15, 2022
1561: When a Mormon Missionary Reads the CES Letter - Kolby Sorensen
04:45:04

Join hosts John Dehlin and Gerardo Sumano as they explore what happens when a Mormon missionary reads the CES Letter.

Kolby Sorensen was raised a devout Mormon in West Valley and West Jordan, Utah. In 2020, he was called to serve a mission as the COVID pandemic began, when missionaries were encouraged to use social media to proselytize.  

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Mar 14, 2022
1560: Loving & Leaving Mormonism - Lizzy & Spencer Bean pt. 3
04:09:32

Welcome back Lizzy and Spencer Bean for the third and final part to their delightful, authentic, hilarious Mormon Stories interview! We dive in head-on in this episode hearing about how marriage for these two young Mormons was not what they expected. But with an interesting reframe to spirituality from an LDS therapist, Lizzy and Spencer’s autonomous spirituality began to emerge like never before. After having enough of spiritual gatekeeping and finding a way to make marriage finally work from them, Spencer describes almost being kicked out of BYU and the situation he was put in by a bishop telling him he had one week to read the Book of Mormon or lose his ecclesiastical endorsement. There are too many topics to list that we cover in this epic final episode with Lizzy and Spencer, but among them are: How and why some Mormons decide to supplement LDS church teachings with New Age spirituality, how wearing garments and Mormon body standards affect women, how empathizing with friends in the LGBTQ community can wake a person up to the realities and harms of Mormon doctrine, and so many other great insights and analogies that help describe why a couple would love Mormonism and choose to leave it!

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Mar 11, 2022
1559: Loving & Leaving Mormonism - Lizzy & Spencer Bean pt. 2
02:08:42

Welcome back Lizzy and Spencer Bean for part 2 of their delightful Mormon Stories interview! In part two, we have Spencer tell us about his upbringing in Orem, Utah as the son of the bishop and what led him to develop a testimony of the church. We hope you like our chat as we let it take us into discussions on missionary work in the developing world, undue influence, death, and the Plan of Salvation. Stick around for some interesting insights from Spencer’s mission to Sweden and even a story about Midsummer with Hans Maddsen’s brother, Leif.

We named this series “Loving and Leaving Mormonism” to allow our guests to speak authentically to their all-around good experiences being raised members of the LDS faith and hope you’ll stick around to listen to part three as Lizzy and Spencer describe the events and information that made them think twice about their membership in the religion they love.

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Mar 10, 2022
1558: Loving & Leaving Mormonism - Lizzy & Spencer Bean pt. 1
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Mormon Stories viewers are in for a treat with this series of episodes as we interview married couple Lizzy and Spencer Bean. In part one, we dive into Lizzy’s story and unique upbringing as just one of two siblings in a Mormon family with convert parents in Upstate New York. We discuss the influence of her involvement with the Palmyra Pageant on her developing testimony as well as the Mormon propensity towards music and theater. Other topics include the culture shock after arriving in Provo when her dad’s career led him to teach music education at BYU, and acclimating to the very LDS saturated environment as she developed her musical and theatrical talents. We named this series “Loving and Leaving Mormonism” to allow our guests to speak authentically to their all-around good experiences being raised members of the LDS faith and hope you’ll stick around to listen to part three as Lizzy and Spencer describe the events and information that made them think twice about their membership in the religion they love.

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Announcing: The Open Arms Collective
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Join Jenn as she introduces a new addition to Open Stories Foundation. The Open Arms Collective is a group of women and gender non-binary individuals meeting monthly along the Wasatch Front, with open arms, to embrace our family and friends wherever they are on their faith journey!

We hold monthly events to empower, learn, create and build community together.

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Mar 09, 2022
1557: A Ukrainian Mormon Story - Ksenia Andrukhiv Everton
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Join us Monday afternoon for a special episode with Ksenia Andrukhiv Everton from Ukraine. Get ready for a fascinating story about her family's journey in the Mormon Church. She will also talk to us about Russia’s war on Ukraine.

European defenders are in huge need of military-grade Helmets and Armory Vests for Territorial Defense Battalions. The Ukrainian American Coordinating Council (financial coordinator), Razom for Ukraine (media partner), and International Charitable Foundation “Come back alive” (end user) with CO Foundation Serhiy Prytula (end user) are uniting their efforts to purchase this necessary equipment. Please consider a donation here.

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Mar 09, 2022
Should We Let THRIVE Die?
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Recently the THRIVE Beyond Religion Foundation has been under attack by the Mormon church’s apologists, the Salt Lake Tribune, some vocal TikTokkers, and a few other Ex-Mormons.  Such attacks have taken a heavy toll on many in the THRIVE Board, and on the THRIVE Community overall.

Please join members of the THRIVE Foundation board of directors this Monday at 9am (mountain) as we ask ourselves and the post-Mormon community whether or not we should allow the THRIVE Foundation to die.

Note: Our heartfelt support goes out to the people of Ukraine.  Please join us Monday afternoon for a special Mormon Stories Podcast episode about Russia’s war on Ukraine.

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Mar 07, 2022
1556: Adam, Eve, and pre-Adamites - Mormon Doctrine vs. Science w/ Dr. Simon Southerton #02
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Did a single first pair of humans (Adam and Eve) ever exist? Join us this Friday at 4:00 pm MT for an epic discussion with Dr. Simon Southerton about Mormonism’s core doctrine of Adam and Eve. We will analyze the conflicts between the undisputed fact of human evolution and the belief that all humans descended from a single couple of humans in Jackson County, Missouri. We will break down the different ways in which the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and its apologists have responded to conflicting scientific evidence and the ongoing debate regarding the existence of pre-Adamites. In addition, Dr. Michael Westaway will be joining us to speak about his groundbreaking research regarding the Mungo Man, the oldest and most famous human skeleton in Australia dated at 42,000 years, which was voted in the top 10 papers of the year by Science magazine in 2016.

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Mar 07, 2022
1555: Mormon Polygamy Apologetics w/ Sandra Tanner Pt. 1 - A Mormon Scoops Special!
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The one and only Sandra Tanner joins Mormon Scoops as a special guest to address comments recently made on the Follow Him podcast by church historian Kate Holbrook. Join Carah, John, Gerardo and Sandra for this epic episode starting Thursday at 4:30pm mountain time!

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Mar 04, 2022
1554: Rodney Meldrum Pt. 2 - On Mormonism and Racism
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Join us for our interview with Rod Meldrum, founder of the Book of Mormon Heartland Model. In this episode we explore Rod's Mormon faith.

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Mar 03, 2022
1553: Rodney Meldrum Pt. 1 - Founder of the Book of Mormon Heartland Model
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Join us for our interview with Rod Meldrum, founder of the Book of Mormon Heartland Model.

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Mar 03, 2022
THRIVE Day for Women - April 2, 2022
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We are super excited to announce our next THRIVE Day for Women, which will be held on Saturday, April 2, 2022 in Orem, Utah. The event will be emceed buy Julienna Viegas, and speakers will include:

  • Tiffany Roe
  • Natasha Helfer
  • Leah Young
  • Donna Kelly
  • Suzy Benson

The purpose of all THRIVE events is to promote healing, growth, and community for post-Mormons. THRIVE is a non-profit, and is priced only to cover the event costs, which includes lunch.

Click here to Register!

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Mar 03, 2022
1552: Mormon Scoops Weekly Report
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BYU Join us live as John, Carah and Gerardo discuss the news topics of the week at 7pm mountain time Thursday night! Tonight's topics include but are not limited to:
  • BYU Black Student Union confronts Brad Wilcox
  • BYU forces end to “gender-affirming voice care” for transgender students
  • Utah Kaysville Devotional for Sisters Featuring Mormon Apostle Dale G. Renlund

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Feb 26, 2022
1551: How a Mormon Bishop’s Sexual Abuse Affected our Faith - Kolby & Cami Reddish
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After an epic retelling of their time trying to protect the children in their Idaho home ward, Cami and Kolby give us a look into how that ordeal changed their faith in the Mormon church in this epic second part of their interview.

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