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By Dr. John Dehlin

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 Sep 11, 2021

informative, open, history
 Feb 21, 2020
this podcast has been great to learn more about history and current events of the mormon church


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 Aug 4, 2019

know your religion
 Jan 9, 2019
this pod has helped me in different phases of my life. when I thought I was the only one with these feelings in the church, the pod let me know I was not alone. it helped me stay active longer and helped me during my faith crisis

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Mormon Stories is an attempt to build understanding between and about Mormons through the telling of stories in both audio and video formats.

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1768: When the Mormon Church Protects Your Child's Abuser: Jared and Ashley Jones Pt. 2
02:55:44

In Part 2 of this eye-opening interview, Jared and Ashley Jones courageously share their experiences with child abuse within the Mormon community and the disturbing lengths to which leaders will go to protect abusers, even at the expense of victims. They recount the heart-wrenching journey that ensued after discovering sexual abuse allegations involving the teen son of a Bishopric member. Despite their efforts to seek justice and protect others, they faced resistance from church leaders who prioritized the reputation of the church and the experiences of the abuser's family over the safety and well-being of the families of his many victims time and time again. As Jared and Ashley shed light on the systemic failures and manipulations they encountered to silence and discredit them, they offer insights into the urgent need for change within the Mormon church. Don't miss this thought-provoking conversation that delves into the complexities of abuse, power dynamics, and the call for accountability.

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May 25, 2023
1767: When Your Mormon Child is Abused by a Church Member - Jared and Ashley Jones
03:36:07

Discover the heart-wrenching story of Jared and Ashley Jones as they bravely shed light on the sensitive issue of child abuse within the Mormon community. In this eye-opening interview, they delve into Jared's Mormon upbringing and the damaging effects of constant messages about pornography and sexual sin. Uncover the cycle of shame and guilt that Jared experienced, including the inappropriate questioning by Bishops and the downplaying of their own childhood sexual abuse. Gain insight into the failures of the church and family system in addressing and protecting victims. Explore the profound impact of Mormon sexual shame on their marriage and the punitive measures they faced when seeking help. Don't miss this powerful discussion on the far-reaching consequences of spiritual abuse within Mormonism.

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May 22, 2023
1766: Conspiracy Theories, Religion, and Mormonism - w/ Michael Shermer
02:08:43

Join John, Rebecca and Michael Shermer to discuss his book, Conspiracy: Why People Believe the Irrational.

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May 19, 2023
1765: LDS Donations Misuse on 60 Minutes w/ Mark Pugsley
01:59:33

Mark Pugsley is back in the house with John Dehlin and Gerardo Sumano to discuss the recent 60 minutes coverage of the current investigation into the Mormon Church's financial dealings. Do members deserve to know where their dollars go? Or do those details deserve to be kept secret?

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May 16, 2023
An Evening with Bill Reel - May 30, 2023 at 7pm (6pm for VIP Dinner)
05:12
Please join John Dehlin as he hosts an evening to honor Podcast Host Bill Reel (and possibly his wife Amanda).  As you know, Bill is the host of Mormon Discussions podcast, and the co-host of Mormonism Live podcast.
 
At the main event (7pm in Alpine), Bill will provide a short speech, and a fun/live Q&A will be held as well.  A VIP event will be held at 6pm (with food) as well, for those wanting a little more personal time with Bill and John.  This is your chance to meet and thank Bill (and Amanda) for their roles in your Mormon journey!!!
 
All proceeds from this event will be donated to Bill and Amanda Reel.  Base ticket price is $10/person, but the system allows you to donate extra to Bill and Amanda if you so choose.  The VIP dinner is $30/person.
 
Please spread the word!  I would love nothing more to have a full room give Bill and Amanda a standing ovation for the important role they've played in Mormonism.
 
Click here to register for the event.  And please spread the word!
May 16, 2023
1764: Mormons React to the Lori Vallow Guilty Verdict - Including Lori's Cousin Megan Conner
02:09:24

Join Lori Vallow's cousin (Megan Conner), John Dehlin, Gerardo Sumano, and Hidden True Crime's Lauren Mathias as they react live to Lori Vallow's verdict.

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May 12, 2023
1763: Patriarchal Blessings - A Discussion | LDS Discussions Ep 40
01:29:57

Discover the truth behind Mormon Patriarchal Blessings in this eye-opening interview with hosts Mike, Nemo, and John. From reflections on their own blessings to the harmful effects of this mechanism of control over members, the hosts delve into the nuanced nature of these individualized messages from God. With insights on how even past prophets have framed patriarchal blessings, and the agelessness of their messages, you won't want to miss this deep dive into revelation in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

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May 12, 2023
1762: When Your Adult Mormon Children Stop Believing - Rod & Nan Osborne Pt 2
03:00:27

Join Nan and Rod Osborne on a journey through their lives as devoted Mormons, parents, and spouses, and discover how their faith shaped their family culture. From Nan's early years in the LDS community to Rod's conversion and mission, to the challenges of raising a large family, no topic is off-limits in this captivating interview. Along the way, they share their experiences with temple worship, gender roles, and the pressure to keep their children on the "Mormon train." However, when their children start to question their faith, Nan and Rod's world is turned upside down. Will their family survive these faith crises, or will it tear them apart?

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May 10, 2023
1761: When Your Adult Mormon Children Stop Believing - Rod & Nan Osborne Pt 1
02:28:05

Join Nan and Rod Osborne on a journey through their lives as devoted Mormons, parents, and spouses, and discover how their faith shaped their family culture. From Nan's early years in the LDS community to Rod's conversion and mission, to the challenges of raising a large family, no topic is off-limits in this captivating interview. Along the way, they share their experiences with temple worship, gender roles, and the pressure to keep their children on the "Mormon train." However, when their children start to question their faith, Nan and Rod's world is turned upside down. Will their family survive these faith crises, or will it tear them apart?

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May 09, 2023
1760: Growing Up Mormon With Lori Vallow Daybell - Cousin Megan Conner
04:25:05

Today accused murderer Lori Vallow’s cousin, Megan Conner, shares what it was like to grow up as a cousin to the Cox family. She also discusses the Mormon ties to the Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell murders and discusses her own Mormon faith transition.

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May 02, 2023
1759: The Lori Vallow Daybell Trial - Week 2 & 3 - Castings, Deaths, and Temples
02:55:46

Join Gerardo, Lauren, Mindy, and John for an all-new episode as they discuss the second and third weeks of Lori Daybell's trial. This is your chance to catch up on one of the most bizarre trials of the year, as the panel guides you through the latest jaw-dropping testimonies, and intriguing Mormon themes unfolding in Ada County's courthouse.

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Apr 30, 2023
1758: The Problems with Mormon Personal Revelation | LDS Discussions Ep 39
01:32:32

In this thought-provoking interview, Mike, Nemo, and John Dehlin delve into the controversial topic of personal revelation in Mormonism. The discussion covers a range of doctrinal problems and contradictions that challenge the idea of personal revelation, from the dangers of blind obedience to leaders, confirmation bias, silencing dissenters and emotional manipulation. The conversation ultimately questions who has the authority to decide what constitutes valid personal revelation.

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Apr 28, 2023
1757: Is the Mormon Church an Unhealthy Organization? w/ John Larsen
02:34:17

Sometimes we find ourselves involved in organizations, governments and communities that might be psychologically unhealthy to us or our communities. John Larsen has collected a few points you can use to check to see if an organization might be considered dangerous or unhealthy.

  • There are elections with only one candidate up for each office.
  • All members are expected to vote in unison.
  • The term “beloved” is applied to a living leader by other leaders of the organization.
  • Loyal members calling for reform or change are purged or otherwise silenced.
  • There are no means for membership to appeal a decision.
  • The group is willing to break up families or other social structures to further or preserve its own organizations.
  • Members are encouraged to look and dress the same. Uniformity is encouraged or required in clothing, haircuts, jewelry, etc.
  • Life events are controlled by the organization. For example, you cannot marry without leadership approval.
  • There is an organizationally controlled media including television, radio and newspapers. All outside media is cast as suspect.
  • The organization is overly focused on winning over vulnerable populations such as the youth, those who are grieving, or those in financial distress.
  • The group is involved in many business or monetary transactions wholly unrelated to the central mission of the organization.
  • Members are encouraged or required to never say anything negative about the leadership.
  • The organization uses litigation as a means to silence dissident membership or outside organizations speaking against the group.
  • Community leaders are chosen by the central organization. Local communities have no say in who their representatives will be.
  • The governance structure of the central organization is ambiguous, hidden or unknown.
  • Obedience to the central organization is encouraged over all other values.
  • All finances are kept secret.
  • The leadership of the organization is preoccupied with the most intimate details of member’s lives including finances, sex and personal relationships.
  • Leadership tends to speak of the victim-hood of the organization even in endeavors where the organization has a majority or controlling influence.
  • Organizational history is overly sentimentalized and unflattering information is edited out of official documents.
  • The organization insists that it has primacy or is more important than all other organizations.
  • The group has an almost obsessive focus on the outward appearances of organizational buildings and properties, grass is meticulously cut, no litter is ever found, grounds are always perfect. A great deal of time and effort is spent on this resource.

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Apr 20, 2023
1756: Rebuilding Life as a Mormon Widow - Janae Thompson Pt. 2
02:27:31

In Part 2 of her interview, Janae Thompson shares her journey as a young widow navigating the Mormon doctrine of eternal families and the challenges of dating and remarriage. She discusses the disparities in church policies and teachings that caused her to question her faith and ultimately led her down the rabbit hole of learning about the history of Mormonism. Janae talks candidly about exploring her sexuality and finding new rituals and practices to connect and uplift her after leaving the church. Her story is a powerful testament to the resilience of the human spirit and the possibilities for happiness and health after leaving a religious institution.

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Apr 18, 2023
1755: When Your Mormon Husband Dies – Janae Thompson Pt. 1
03:22:20

In this emotional and gripping interview, Janae Thompson shares her journey as a Mormon woman and the struggles she faced in a religion that demanded perfection and conformity. From her early years in the Mormon church, to her time at BYU and beyond, Janae recounts the challenges of fitting into a narrow mold while dealing with her own personal struggles, including an eating disorder and the pressure to find an eternal companion. But it was the sudden death of her husband Grant that truly tested Janae’s strength and resilience. Through her raw and honest reflections, Janae offers a powerful insight into loss, grief, and the search for meaning and purpose in the face of tragedy.

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Apr 17, 2023
1754: The Lori Vallow Daybell Trial - Week 1 - Money, Power, & Mormonism
02:46:23

Get ready to dive into one of the most bizarre trials of the year. Join Gerardo, Lauren (Hidden True Crime Podcast), Mindy, and Brenton (LinkedIn, Tiktok) as they guide you through the first week of Lori Daybell's trial. Buckle up as they highlight the most jaw-dropping testimonies, riveting opening statements, and intriguing Mormon themes unfolding in Ada County's courthouse. The panel will explore some of the most compelling moments of the trial, breaking down the evidence and analyzing how Lori's beliefs align with early Mormonism, from Joseph Smith's treasure digging to some of the more obscure religious doctrines that have shaped the LDS faith.

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Apr 16, 2023
1753: Disaster at BYU-Hawaii - David Glen Hatch's Devotional
01:16:32

Carah Burrell and John review the recent, deeply troubling devotional delivered earlier this week by David Glen Hatch at BYU-Hawaii.

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Apr 07, 2023
1752: April 2023 LDS General Conference Panel Discussion
02:09:15

Join us as we discuss surprises, let downs, best talks, worst talks etc in this year’s April General Conference, where members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons) listen to messages from top leaders in the Church. What were the real intentions and messages behind this year’s talks? Did they address the recent scandals & controversy regarding the SEC fine for fraudulently creating shell companies to hide its wealth from members and the public? Was anything missing that we would normally expect to hear?

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Apr 06, 2023
1751: Mormon Church Assets - Ensign Peak, Real Estate, and Temples - Widow’s Mite Report Pt. 2
03:01:31

Join us for part 2 of our review of the Widow’s Mite Report, which investigates and reports on LDS Church finances. Today we will discuss Ensign Peak Advisors, the Mormon church’s real estate holdings, and their extensive construction of temples.

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Mar 30, 2023
1750: A Mormon Mom Tries Mushrooms - Stephanie Brinkerhoff
04:13:14

Join us as we explore the story of what would lead a super-faithful and believing Mormon mother of three to try psychedelic mushrooms (psilocybin) for the first time...and what happened next.

Mar 29, 2023
1749: Problematic Mormon Revelations after Joseph Smith w/ LDS Discussions Ep. 38
02:41:55

Today we discuss several problematic "revelations" by LDS prophets that succeeded Joseph Smith.  These include:

  • John Taylor's 1886 revelation on the continuation of polygamy.
  • The multiple "manifestos" allegedly ending the practice of polygamy (but not really).
  • The lifting of the 1978 priesthood and temple ban against Mormons of African descent.
  • Changes to the LDS temple ceremony over the years.
  • Russell M. Nelson's condemnation of the use of the "Mormon" identity after Gordon B. Hinckley and Thomas S. Monson's strong support of the "Mormon" identity.
  • The 2015 LGBTQ Exclusion policy, and the subsequent 2019 reversal of the policy/doctrine.
  • The Mark Hofmann forgeries.

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Mar 24, 2023
1748: SUU Students Protest Apostle Jeffrey R. Holland
03:02:36

Today we are inviting a panel of Southern Utah University students to discuss their objections to the invitation to have Mormon apostle Jeffrey R. Holland speak at an upcoming graduation ceremony, especially as a man who has used his status, privilege, wealth and power to platform anti-LGBTQ rhetoric, including violent metaphors, which have directly harmed so many in that community.

Follow @SUU_commencement_protest on instagram for updates and ways to help.

If you'd like to build up the platform for these brave students from SUU representing themselves and other marginalized peers, there are a number of ways you can help:

1. Please like & share this episode to give it more visibility and traction

2. Sign the Change.org petition

3. Email SUU's Chair, Vice Chair, and the Board of Trustees:

  • trustees@suu.edu
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  • ericschmutz@suu.edu
  • president@suu.edu

4. Fill out SUU's Feedback form on the 2023 Commencement Speaker

5. Follow @SUU_commencement_protest on instagram

6. If you know any queer students at SUU, please reach out and let them know you support them.

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Mar 21, 2023
1747: When Your Mormon Kids Fall Away from the Church - Lance & Brandee Heppler Pt 2
02:26:27

Lance and Brandee Heppler began to question and ultimately leave the Mormon Church after their son Lake experienced mismanagement and mistreatment during his missionary training and service. This experience, along with their daughter Darby coming out as gay and being rejected by the Church, led them to start questioning Church teachings and practices. They also began to educate themselves about Church history and controversies through sources like the "Mormons & Masons" documentary, "Mormon Stories," and the CES Letter.

Further cracks in their faith emerged when Brandee became aware of a child abuse incident at their local stake center that had been covered up by Church leaders. Despite these concerns, the Hepplers continued to attend Church and pretend to believe for a time. However, they eventually reached a breaking point and decided to leave the Church altogether. They found that prioritizing their family and their own happiness outside of the Church was more important than following Church rules and teachings that were not serving them.

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Mar 21, 2023
1746: Mormon Family Struggles with Mental Health - Lance & Brandee Heppler Pt 1.
02:20:42

Join Lance and Brandee Heppler as they share their personal journeys in Mormonism and delve into mental health challenges they faced as they tried to be good Mormon parents. In this episode, Lance talks about his orthodox upbringing in Oregon, serving his mission in South Carolina, and his panic of finding someone to marry before graduating from BYU. Meanwhile, Brandee shares her struggle of not fitting in at church due in part to her parents being converts and her undiagnosed ADHD, making her wonder why it seemed God made her too "rowdy" as a woman instead of more subdued and "proper".

Together they navigate the traditional gender roles expected of them as a married couple in the church while raising young children and serving in various callings. As they grapple with issues such as feminism and LGBTQ issues in the church, they also confront their own mental health struggles and the lack of support from the Mormon community. They share powerful insights about the often transactional nature of Mormon relationships and the harmful effects that come from some teachings that associate mental health struggles with sin. This episode is a must-listen for anyone seeking a deeper understanding of the challenges faced by those raised in Mormonism and the impact it can have on mental health.

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Mar 21, 2023
1745: Mormon Happiness w/ John Larsen
02:36:24

When Mormons talk about happiness what do they mean? We will deconstruct how the Church uses the concept of happiness to control and gaslight members.

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Mar 21, 2023
1744: Recovering after Mormonism - Dr. Steven Hassan
03:22:25

Join world cult expert Steven Hassan as he shares almost 50 years of experience regarding how to heal and grow after a high demand religion or cult.

 


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Mar 17, 2023
1743: Joining and Leaving the Moonies / Unification Church - Cult Expert Dr. Steven Hassan
03:34:44

Please join us today as Dr. Steven Hassan tells us the story of how he was recruited into a cult (The "Moonies"), and how he became one of the world's experts in cults. A few links are included below:

3/18/22 - THRIVE Unite Registration (Lehi and Ogden)
3/19/22 - Full-day workshop with Steven and John (tickets) on Understanding Cults: A Foundational Course for Clinicians

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Mar 16, 2023
1742: Progressive Bishop w/ an Unbelieving wife - Martine & Stuart Smith Pt 3
03:57:53

Martine and Stuart Smith are back in part three to discuss experiencing the “heavy hand” of Priesthood Authority from their Stake President; from false teachings affecting lives, being told not to watch a specific show he didn’t like, making youth “covenant” to go on missions and never date non-Mormons, only to see him be released and excommunicated for embezzlement. Martine had previously sympathized with the Stake President, who was sometimes unemployed and had five children. She later found out that he had put her membership status as “on probation” though she had never been notified as per policy, and that she had been “blacklisted” from certain callings. The couple began attending Sunstone, where they explored the gray areas of life and Mormon feminism.

During this time, they began to question the Church's teachings, including the Plan of Salvation, which involved separating families more than bringing them together. They also researched the lives of polygamous women and the Equal Rights Amendment. Stuart, an intellectual, was called into the bishopric as an unorthodox member. They stayed in the Church for its utility, but also for their son's sake. Martine became the RS Pres during the Sept Six Era, a time of more progressive leaders and scholars at BYU and at Women's Conferences and in leadership.

Eventually the walls crack on their belief and Martine and Stuart find they can no longer stay in a church that goes against their values.

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Mar 16, 2023
1741: Dealing with the tragedy of infant death as Mormon parents - Martine & Stuart Smith Pt 2
02:59:50

Martine & Stuart have their first child, Nathaniel, who was diagnosed with Epidermolysis Bullosa (EB), a rare, painful, and ultimately fatal genetic skin condition. Caring for a child with EB is an immense emotional toll on them due to the constant pain the baby suffers with basic daily tasks like feeding & changing diapers. This episode delves further into the contradictions and complexities of Mormon doctrine around reproduction which made it difficult for Martine and Stuart to come to terms with Nathaniel's condition. They felt guilt and self-blame upon his diagnosis, questioning whether it was punishment for wanting to wait to have children, or due to a "Saturday's Warrior" type pact agreed to in the pre-existence. The doctrine of pre-mortal decisions and the effects on disabilities was also discussed, along with the contradictory messages about disabled or sick children and those who die before accountability.

As Nathaniel's condition worsened, the couple sought healing through priesthood blessings, but were met with disappointment when they didn't work. John discusses expectations vs. the reality of priesthood blessings and the theological justifications used when they don't work. The couple eventually came to accept the idea of letting Nathaniel go, and he passed away. Martine & Stuart describe the emotional aftermath of Nathaniel's death, including the funeral and how Mormons deal with death.

Despite some trepidation, the couple decides to have another child, which was met with mixed reactions from their community. Martine became pregnant again and gave birth to a healthy son. They later moved to Louisiana, where they became involved in their LDS branch and had a third child, Sarah, who was also born with EB. The episode discusses the routine of care for Sarah and the support they received from their branch. The second death of an infant affected their faith, with Stuart becoming angry at God and turning down a leadership position in the church. Despite this, Martine still wanted more children, and the episode ends with the couple meeting with a General Authority to discuss the deaths of their children and birth control.

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Mar 16, 2023
1740: A Belgian Mormon Story - Martine & Stuart Smith Pt 1
02:14:28

Martine, a Belgian convert to Mormonism, shares what growing up in Belgium was like and how she and her sister end up converting to Mormonism. She eventually made it to the United States to attend General Conference and get her Patriarchal Blessing when her sister decided to serve a mission. Due to connections with several families of missionaries, she finds a job as a nanny and eventually makes it to BYU where she is reintroduced to Stuart, whom she'd briefly met as a missionary in Belgium.

Though he hadn't known her well, Stuart instantly recognized Martine at a Young Single Adult (YSA) activity and things took off from there until he asked her to be with him for eternity. Martine happily accepts this proposal from an established, generational Mormon returned missionary. However, the engagement is soon jeopardized by challenges between Martine's desire to follow the brethren's admonitions not to put off having children (and wanting a dozen of them!) as the quintessential Mormon housewife with Stuart's practicality regarding his ability to financially support children while still having several years of school left.

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Mar 13, 2023
1739: Joseph's Failed Prophecies | LDS Discussions Ep. 37
02:13:44

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In this engaging interview, Mike from LDS Discussions, Nemo the Mormon, and John Dehlin review the failed prophecies of Mormonism's founder, Joseph. They start by discussing what the Bible says about failed prophecies and those who tell them. They then delve into specific failed prophecies, including the Second Coming of the Lord in 1891, the fall and overthrow of the US government, and the "everlasting" covenant of the United Order. Other failed prophecies discussed include the failed treasure seeking mission to Salem and the failed attempt to sell the Book of Mormon copyright.

Was Joseph wrong or is it was God's fault? What good is having General Conference, either way? The hosts also discuss how FAIR Mormon tries to spin failures into fulfillments and concludes with some final thoughts on the implications of these failed prophecies of Joseph for Mormons today.

LDS Discussion Essay on Joseph Smith's Revelations.

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Mar 10, 2023
1738: Unveiling Dr. Clandestine
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The interview discusses the tensions between Mormon historians and church leadership in the 1970s, focusing on the publication of a pamphlet responding to a critical book by the Tanners. Initially rejected by Mormon leadership for publishing due to their discomfort with the real history revealed in it, the pamphlet is instead published privately under the pseudonym, A Latter-day Saint Historian, or, as the Tanners dubbed him, "Mr. Clandestine."

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Mar 08, 2023
THRIVE Unite - March 18, 2023
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We are excited to announce Thrive Unite 2023 - which is scheduled for March 18th. Events will be held in the following cities:

Ticket costs Range between $0-40. Each of these events provides opportunities to meet with people that have experienced a change in faith. There are some amazing opportunities to hear from experts and prominent voices in recovering from religious transitions.

Examples include:

  • Lehi & Ogden - Dr. Steven Hassen (Cult Expert)
  • Seattle - John Larsen
  • Idaho Falls - Anthony Miller

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Tickets for the all-day workshop with Steven and John Dehlin

Mar 07, 2023
1737: Losing Faith When Your Child’s a Mormon Missionary: Julie and Jill Durrant
03:59:13

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Jill and Julie Durrant share their Mormon upbringing and the challenges they faced within the faith. They discuss the expectations placed on Mormon children and the milestones they must achieve to be considered successful in the community. Julie's scrupulosity and the patriarchal blessing she received add to her struggles. Jill talks about the superiority you can feel as a Mormon and the cognitive dissonance she experienced when her sister, Alli, came out as a lesbian. Jill went on a mission to find answers about her siblings, and Julie's faith crisis begins in earnest after talking with her son, Tom. They discuss the complications of navigating family dynamics and the difficulty of leaving the church. Ultimately, the Durrant family's story is one of resilience, growth, and learning to navigate the complexities of life within and outside of Mormonism.

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Mar 06, 2023
1736: Mormon Church Finances Revealed - The Widow's Mite Project w/ Radio Free Mormon
03:16:27

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In this revealing interview, you'll learn about the founding of the Widow's Mite Report and its project goals and methods. The conversation takes a deep dive into the Mormon Church's wealth and how it mishandles funds taken from the poor to fund its massive investment accounts. You'll hear about whistleblowing within the church, sources used, and why all the secrecy about church investments.

With only six church leaders having full access to Ensign Peak, discover why the church downplays its wealth and only claims to be financially self-reliant. This interview offers eye-opening insights into the LDS Church's finances and its treatment of the poor.

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Mar 05, 2023
1735: When the Moon Turns to Blood w/ Leah Sotille | Mormon Stories Book Club
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Author Leah Sotille will be joining John and Rebecca to discuss her book examining the culture of end times paranoia and the trail of mysterious deaths surrounding former beauty queen Lori Vallow and her husband, grave digger turned doomsday novelist, Chad Daybell. When The Moon Turns to Blood tells a gripping story of extreme beliefs, snake oil prophets, and explores the question: if it feels like the world is ending, how are people supposed to act?

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Mar 03, 2023
1734: Problematic Patterns in Joseph Smith’s Revelations | LDS Discussions Ep. 36
02:19:54

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Today we identify and analyze four problematic patterns in Joseph Smith's "revelations": 1) Using revelations to convince others to submit to his requests, 2) Using revelations to get out of a jam, 3) Changing revelations to fit Joseph Smith’s evolving theologies, and 4) a look at Biblical errors made in Joseph Smith's revelation. Today we are joined by Mike of LDS Discussions and @NEMOTHEMORMON.

LDS Discussion Essay on Joseph Smith's Revelations.

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Feb 24, 2023
1733: Mormon Bishop Speaks Out About Misleading Church Statistics
03:19:03

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For the first time ever, a sitting Mormon Bishop joins us to discuss the current situation with the Church's activity rates and its misleading membership statistics.

He began watching Mormon Stories despite being an active Bishop and noticed questions and doubts arising among Mexican Saints, especially among English-speaking members as they had more access to information, such as through WhatsApp conversations between leaders discussing the SEC filing in Mexico. Obispo faced pressure to fudge numbers in his Ward Quarterly Report but pushed back, even calling Church Headquarters to find out policies.

Obispo also discusses discrepancies between Mexican membership statistics and census data, as well as the pressure to bring people back through programs like "Finding Lost Members." The interview covers topics such as tithing, welfare, and fast offerings. Obispo wants the Church to do better and believes in doing what is right, even if he may face consequences for sharing.

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Feb 24, 2023
1732: LDS Church Fined $5 Million for Hiding Money w/ Mark Pugsley
02:58:37

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Is the Mormon Church honest in all of its dealings? The Securities and Exchange Commission announced charges against The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints for obscuring the Church’s money and misstating Ensign Peak’s control over the Church’s investment decisions. To settle the charges, Ensign Peak agreed to pay a $4 million penalty and the Church agreed to pay a $1 million penalty.

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Religion Unplugged article with full Senate Finance Committee memo Whistleblower Details New Allegations About $100 Billion LDS Fund

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Feb 22, 2023
1731: Exposing BYU’s Racism Goes VIRAL - Black Menaces’ Nathan Byrd
03:09:49

Nate Byrd discusses his experiences as a Black Mormon and how he navigated his identity in a church with a history of white supremacy. He talks about being the only Black family in his wards and the pressure to conform to white norms, including attending BYU and marrying a Black Mormon. He also shares his experiences with racism at BYU, both from white students and from the church's teachings on race.

Byrd discusses his journey of self-discovery and how he channeled his anger into making things better for Black students at BYU, including starting a Black Student Union. He also talks about his TikTok channel, where he discusses the cringey and racist things he experienced at BYU, and his intentions to help others in similar situations. Byrd concludes by reflecting on the challenges of reconciling his faith with the church's history of white supremacy and how he continues to grapple with these issues.

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Feb 20, 2023
1730: Revelation Pt 1: Joseph Smith's Backdated Prophecies w/ Radio Free Mormon | LDS Discussions Ep. 35
03:23:49

Radio Free Mormon joins the usual crew (Mike, John & Nemo) as they discuss evidence for prophecies that appear to have been backdated after the events of the supposed prophecy already happened. They explore how scholars can identify and analyze backdated prophecies and their significance. Specific examples of backdated prophecies are explored in the Book of Mormon and D&C, as well as Joseph Smith's manipulation of Isaiah and the Bible to support his claims. 

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Feb 17, 2023
1729: Doubting as a Mormon Missionary and in Early Marriage - Dallin Seely (@TheDashleys)
03:17:01

Dallin Seely from YouTube channel @TheDashleys grew up as a multigenerational Mormon. When he was seven years old, his father passed away from stomach cancer. Despite this tragedy, the church provided a lot of support to him and his family. The early death of his father leads Dallin to experience intense scrupulosity as he worries that he will never see his father again in heaven if he isn't "worthy" according to LDS Standards. A strict Bishop exacerbates Dallin’s scrupulosity but is somewhat alleviated when a new bishop tells him that his worthiness was not determined by others. When he came home from his mission, he was encouraged to get married, but he continued to have doubts about the church's teachings, such as the priesthood ban for black members. 

Dallin felt the Holy Ghost told him to marry a certain woman, but he falls in love with Ashley, another faithful woman but who seems a bit less "proper" to Dallin for things like expressing humor through sarcasm. Dallin follows his own heart and marries Ashley anyway. The couple deals with the church’s inherent sexism, including in the temple and the teaching of “the patriarchal order” in the Mormon church. Continuous marriage struggles lead them to seek therapy. This led to the healthiest time in their marriage, as they were able to have emotional intimacy and talk about their feelings, including Ashley's feelings about General Conferences and sexism. They did not want to teach their daughter to feel inferior to men. Dallin and Ashley tell how they learned to embrace their true selves and how they are raising their children in a way that eliminates guilt and fear. 

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Feb 13, 2023
Steven Hassan (Cult Expert) Coming to Utah and Other Super Cool Mormon Events in 2023
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There are so many super cool events coming to Utah I can't even stand it.  Here are a few you should know about:

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Feb 10, 2023
1728: Joseph Smith and Dartmouth College - Randy Bell
01:54:06

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Join John, Margi and special guest Randy Bell in exploring a lesser-studied era of Joseph's life and his family connections to nearby Dartmouth. Do many supposedly unique Mormon doctrines have their origin not with Joseph, but at Dartmouth?

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Feb 08, 2023
1727: Bad Mormon, A Memoir - Heather Gay
02:00:37

For Heather Gay, becoming a cast member on “The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City” was like “drawing a line in the sand” with her identity as a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. When she joined the Bravo show in 2019, she realized her move to quietly quit the faith would become very loud. - The New York Times

Heather Gay visits John and Margi in studio and brings along a familiar face for fans of Mormon Stories and The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, Dre Robinson! Heather tells the story of how her memoir, Bad Mormon, came to be, the challenges she faced to write and publish it (and trademark it), her hopes for the future and what she and Dre are working on now.

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Between attending orthodox services, embarking on an eighteen-month mission, attending Brigham Young University, and marrying into a "royal" family, Heather was the definition of a "good Mormon." However, when the doting wife's husband unexpectedly filed for divorce, she was left out in the cold by her church and her community. In this funny, brash, and unbelievably vulnerable book, Bad Mormon recounts Heather's experiences as a single mother to three girls, navigating life post-divorce and post-Mormonism."

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Feb 06, 2023
1726: Mormon Convert Leaves Church - Liz Lambson Pt. 4
04:00:53

YouTube Link: https://youtu.be/nEW7ZshLBcU

Cracks start to form in the testimony and identities of both Liz and her husband Sam. Sam begins to question the narratives he was raised with after a trip to Palmyra and as his degree opens his eyes to the cold, corporate nature of the Church, while Liz struggles to keep her faith despite the growing number of things that feel so wrong and cause so much harm not just to Liz, but her marriage, children, extended family, community, and even the nation at large. Liz recognizes how much of herself she continually denied and gave up trying to belong and finally realizes that she no longer WANTS to belong to an organization at such odds with her nature and values. 

Liz's Resignation Letter

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Liz Lambson is a Korean/African American artist, musician, and writer, and - along with her spouse Sam - is a parent to five boys residing in Salt Lake City. Liz performs as a string bassist with the Ballet West Orchestra as well as the children’s singer-songwriter Lizzy Luna, the creator of the music-and-movement program Yoga Storytime & Songs. Liz performed for and toured with the Mormon Tabernacle Choir and Orchestra at Temple Square for several years.  She released her first album of original children’s yoga music, Reach to the Sky, in 2018. Her writing has been featured in publications including the New Era and the New York Times.
 
As an active member of Utah’s arts and culture community, Liz formerly served as the Executive Director of the Utah Black History Museum. Her artwork is featured on Salt Lake City’s Black Lives Matter mural at City Hall. Liz is also an aspiring film actress.
 
In her spare time she enjoys needlework, gardening, road trips, and Scrabble.

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Feb 02, 2023
1725: Working Mormon Mother Speaks Out - Liz Lambson Pt. 3
03:02:33
 
After Liz decides to stay at BYU, she meets her future husband, Sam. Liz takes us through her courtship with Sam, their reasons for marrying each other, and the various complications they faced early on in their marriage. Like many LDS women trying to properly fulfill their purpose, Liz finds motherhood alone cannot make her feel happy & fulfilled with the exclusion of the things that make Liz who she is and bring her joy.
 
 
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Liz Lambson is a Korean/African American artist, musician, and writer, and - along with her spouse Sam - is a parent to five boys residing in Salt Lake City. Liz performs as a string bassist with the Ballet West Orchestra as well as the children’s singer-songwriter Lizzy Luna, the creator of the music-and-movement program Yoga Storytime & Songs. Liz performed for and toured with the Mormon Tabernacle Choir and Orchestra at Temple Square for several years.  She released her first album of original children’s yoga music, Reach to the Sky, in 2018. Her writing has been featured in publications including the New Era and the New York Times. 

As an active member of Utah’s arts and culture community, Liz formerly served as the Executive Director of the Utah Black History Museum. Her artwork is featured on Salt Lake City’s Black Lives Matter mural at City Hall. Liz is also an aspiring film actress.

In her spare time she enjoys needlework, gardening, road trips, and Scrabble. 

Liz's Instagram: @lizzylambson

Liz's Music & Social Media

 

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Feb 01, 2023
1724: Joining the Mormon Church at BYU - Liz Lambson Pt. 2
02:24:53

YouTube link: https://youtu.be/cGm7kpKh9KI

We continue Liz’s journey as she goes to BYU and gets baptized. Liz explains her interactions with church and BYU culture, and the effect of “worthiness” interviews w/LDS leadership once she is an official member. 

At BYU Liz struggles to fit in with white culture and begins struggling with symptoms of mental illness along with outbursts of creativity. Things get heavy with a friend’s suicide as she battles her own depressive thoughts. 

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Liz Lambson is a Korean/African American artist, musician, and writer, and - along with her spouse Sam - is a parent to five boys residing in Salt Lake City. Liz performs as a string bassist with the Ballet West Orchestra as well as the children’s singer-songwriter Lizzy Luna, the creator of the music-and-movement program Yoga Storytime & Songs. Liz performed for and toured with the Mormon Tabernacle Choir and Orchestra at Temple Square for several years.  She released her first album of original children’s yoga music, Reach to the Sky, in 2018. Her writing has been featured in publications including the New Era and the New York Times. 

As an active member of Utah’s arts and culture community, Liz formerly served as the Executive Director of the Utah Black History Museum. Her artwork is featured on Salt Lake City’s Black Lives Matter mural at City Hall. Liz is also an aspiring film actress.

In her spare time she enjoys needlework, gardening, road trips, and Scrabble. 

Liz's Instagram: @lizzylambson

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“Never Too Soon”

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Jan 31, 2023
1723: Converting to Mormonism in High School | Liz Lambson Pt. 1
02:30:01

Liz Lambson is a Korean/African American artist, musician, and writer, and - along with her spouse Sam - is a parent to five boys residing in Salt Lake City. Liz performs as a string bassist with the Ballet West Orchestra as well as the children’s singer-songwriter Lizzy Luna, the creator of the music-and-movement program Yoga Storytime & Songs. Liz performed for and toured with the Mormon Tabernacle Choir and Orchestra at Temple Square for several years.  She released her first album of original children’s yoga music, Reach to the Sky, in 2018. Her writing has been featured in publications including the New Era and the New York Times. 

As an active member of Utah’s arts and culture community, Liz formerly served as the Executive Director of the Utah Black History Museum. Her artwork is featured on Salt Lake City’s Black Lives Matter mural at City Hall. Liz is also an aspiring film actress.

In her spare time she enjoys needlework, gardening, road trips, and Scrabble. 

Liz's Instagram: @lizzylambson

Liz's Music & Social Media

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We begin Liz’s story with her family and growing up years as a biracial Korean/African American struggling to assimilate into white culture. Her mother converted to Christianity and became a religious fanatic, leading to her eventual abandonment of her husband & children. Liz is introduced to Mormonism shortly after and finds Joseph Smith’s early religious confusion relatable. With continued exposure to LDS peers, including a boy who particularly holds her interest, Liz gains a testimony of the Book of Mormon and falls in love with Mormon culture.

Liz also shares her struggles with academic, artistic and spiritual perfectionism in high school. We learn ways Liz gives up pieces of herself as she tries harder to assimilate into Mormon culture and eventually makes the decision to attend BYU.

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Jan 30, 2023
1722: Buddhism for Beginners w/ Noah Rasheta | Mormon Stories Book Club
02:12:20

Noah Rasheta joins John and Rebecca Bibliotheca to discuss basic concepts of Buddhism which has helped many deconstructing and healing from toxic teachings.

Book: No-Nonsense Buddhism for Beginners by Noah Rasheta of Secular Buddhism

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Jan 27, 2023
1721: Gay Mormon Rescue w/ Charlie Bird and Ben Schilaty?
04:21:37

Please join us for a panel discussion regarding a recent two-day LDS multi-Stake training in Canada focused on understanding LGBTQ members, led by faithful gay Mormon podcasters Charlie Bird and Ben Schilaty (hosts of "Questions From the Closet" podcast).

Some questions that will be addressed by the panel include:

  • What aspects of this training are groundbreaking and should be celebrated?
  • How do efforts like this one help LGBTQ youth in the LDS pews?
  • Is this a local/grass-roots effort or is it sanctioned by top LDS Church leadership?
  • Does this training represent a "Gay Mormon Rescue" of sorts, reminiscent of the Swedish Rescue and Boise Rescue from previous years (see here and here)?
  • What possible risks do trainings like this introduce for LGTBQ youth and young adults?
  • To what extent do less-official, "grass roots" efforts like this prevent top Mormon church leaders from taking responsibility for the LGBTQ crisis (past and present) within Mormonism?

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Jan 26, 2023
1720: Why Don't Mormons Leave? w/ John Larsen & Carah Burrell
02:18:09

Why don’t more people leave the Church in the face of overwhelming evidence that it isn’t what it claims to be? In this episode we will discuss how the Normalcy Bias can help explain this behavior.

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Jan 24, 2023
1719: Overview of Joseph Smith's Translations | LDS Discussions Ep. 34
02:07:03

In this episode we recap all the different areas where Joseph Smith claims to have translated an ancient source and we analyze his work and compare it against modern scholars and experts in the field to see how he did.

Co-host: Nemo the Mormon

LDS Discussion Essay: Overview of Joseph Smith's Translations

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Jan 20, 2023
1718: If John Could Change the Church w/ Cults to Consciousness
02:42:31

John is in the hot seat again as Shelise Sola of @CultstoConsciousness does the interviewing around the topic of what and how John Dehlin would change the Mormon (LDS) Church if he were prophet. John expertly synthesizes and explains in easy-to-understand chunks the largest problems facing the Mormon Church today and ways it harms its most ardent believers and their families from past racism, current treatment of women and homophobia, covering up real history etc.

While Shelise only recently started her podcast, “Cults to Consciousness,” she is quickly gaining viewership and a following due to her vibrant personality and quality content and interviews. In her own words: “From psychedelics to sexual distortions, I interview cult experts, cult survivors, cult advocates, therapists, way-showers, authors, healers, guides, shamans and more, to uncover how they find independence and healing through awareness and true individual sovereignty.”


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Jan 16, 2023
1717: End of Year Review and Q&A - 2022
02:03:26

Mormon Stories has experienced an amazing amount of growth for which we are thankful to our viewers, guests, staff, donors, and collaborators! John shares about the growth of the channel and answers viewer questions.

How was 2022? What helped the channel’s growth? What were the stand-out episodes? 

And what have we got planned for 2023? Join us to find out!

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Jan 12, 2023
1716: Kinderhook Plates w/ LDS Discussions - 33
02:15:14

Did Joseph Smith have another shot at translating ancient scripture, or is it just rumor? Mike, Nemo and John take a look at the Kinderhook Plates. What were they? Did Joseph Smith try to translate them, and what was the result? As usual, we dive into the apologetics around multiple scenarios and why they are each attractive to differing views.

Co-host: Nemo the Mormon

LDS Discussion Essay on the Kinderhook Plates

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Jan 09, 2023
1715: Nonverts: The Making of Ex-Christian America w/ Stephen Bullivant
02:17:51

Co-host: Nemo the Mormon

Stephen Bullivant holds professorial positions at St Mary's University, London, and the University of Notre Dame, Sydney. He has doctorates in theology (Oxford, 2009) and sociology (Warwick, 2019). His studies of contemporary nonreligiosity have received wide international coverage, including from the BBC, New York Times, Economist, Financial Times, and Der Spiegel.

The United States is in the midst of a religious revolution. Or, perhaps it is better to say a non-religious revolution. Around a quarter of US adults now say they have no religion. The great majority of these religious "nones" also say that they used to belong to a religion but no longer do. These are the nonverts: think "converts," but from having religion to having none. There are currently has about 59 million of them in the United States.

Nonverts explores who they are, and why they joined the rising tide of the ex-religious. One of world's leading experts on contemporary atheism and nonreligiosity, sociologist and theologian Stephen Bullivant draws on dozens of interviews, original analysis of high-quality survey data, and a wealth of cutting-edge studies, to present an entertaining and insightful exploration of America's ex-religious landscape. Bullivant criss-crosses the country, talking to everyone from ex-Mormons in Utah to ex-Catholics in Pennsylvania, from ex-Evangelicals in Georgia to ex-Muslims in California, showing not only what they have in common but also how the traditions they left behind continue to shape them.

While American religion is not going to die out any time soon, ex-Christian America is a growing presence in national life. America's religious revolution is not just a religious revolution--it is catalyzing a profound social, cultural, moral, and political impact. Nonverts will serve as an indispensable guide to this shifting landscape, as well as the future of American life.

Join John and Nemo as they dive deeper into just why it is that people leave the LDS church.

Nonverts: The Making of Ex-Christian America

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Jan 09, 2023
1714: Leaving Mormonism Because of Racism - Channel Achenbach Pt. 3
02:12:44

Fans of Mormon stories will be familiar with Channel Achenbach, who has been a guest on LDS Discussions' Race & Mormon Scripture Part 1 and Part 2 , Gender Discrimination in the Mormon Church with John Larsen and Mormon Leader Ahmad Corbitt Condemns Activism Towards the LDS Church or they may know her from her tiktok channel, @Bettenoir4. This is a 3-part series of Channel’s story.

We’re back for a wrap-up of Channel’s story. Starting from where Part 2 left off, Channel, Margi and John discuss racism in general in the United States, and racism experienced in Utah by Channel and her children in Utah based on their skin color, with even her lighter-skinned children getting treated better than those with darker skin.

Channel finally starts finding her own voice and speaking out about her experiences and observations in the church but with continued pushback from leaders, Channel decides to resign and starts her platform on Tiktok. 

We learn where and how Channel is doing now that she's left the Church and found her voice and is finding herself again after all this time. 

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Jan 06, 2023
1713: Surviving as a Black Woman in the Mormon Church - Channel Achenbach Pt. 2
02:07:06

Fans of Mormon stories will be familiar with Channel Achenbach, who has been a guest on LDS Discussions' Race & Mormon Scripture Part 1, Gender Discrimination in the Mormon Church with John Larsen and Mormon Leader Ahmad Corbitt Condemns Activism Towards the LDS Church or they may know her from her tiktok channel, @Bettenoir4. This will be a 3-part series of Channel’s story.

Channel is continuing her story from her marriage, an embarrassing disciplinary council where she is judged for her “sins” by a group entirely of white men, and dealing with the fall-out of a marriage that was ill-suited from the beginning and facing the stigma of divorce within the LDS church as a woman of color. Channel marries again, this time to a non-member of the church and has two children. Despite her husband’s encouragement to leave, Channel continues to seek acceptance and approval from her religion despite her skin color. As she becomes disillusioned over time, Channel manages to stay in because of the influence of a few good friends, especially when her second marriage dissolves, and she finds herself needing more help.

We learn more about issues around race issues in general such as the difference between racism and white supremacy and how both show up in the Church’s doctrines, practices, and members, including being constantly talked down to and told what to do with her life and what to think even by friends over a decade younger than she.

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Jan 04, 2023
1712: Joining the Mormon Church as a Black Teenager - Channel Achenbach Pt. 1
03:15:47

Fans of Mormon stories will be familiar with Channel Achenbach, who has been a guest on LDS Discussions' Race & Mormon Scripture Part 1, Gender Discrimination in the Mormon Church with John Larsen and Mormon Leader Ahmad Corbitt Condemns Activism Towards the LDS Church or they may know her from her tiktok channel, @Bettenoir4. This will be a 3-part series of Channel’s story.

In Part 1 We get some background on Channel’s family growing up, how black families and black culture differ substantially from Mormon white culture, what led Channel to seek God and how that led to her joining the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Channel tells us the good, bad & ugly of how she was treated as a black teenage convert, when she learned of the Church’s racism, and ways that she accepted, excused, and eventually internalized it to see herself as “less” than her white counterparts.

This became most apparent in dating and marriage. While white men in the church may find her exotic and are willing to date her, Channel finds that they are unwilling to marry her as “mixing seed” would pass her “curse” [black skin] to children that could otherwise have two white parents. As Channel loses herself and what makes her unique to the cultural expectations of the Church she marries another black member of the church at the counsel of her Bishop against her better judgment.

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Jan 02, 2023
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Dec 30, 2022
1711: Olympic Champion Wrestler Mark Schultz Leaves Mormonism
03:53:23

Mark Schultz was a 3-time NCAA champion, Olympic champion and 2-time World champion wrestler. He also joined the Mormon church in 1991 shortly after being hired as a BYU wrestling coach. Mark coached wrestling at BYU for around a decade.

A few months ago, Mark started studying factual LDS church history - focusing specifically on Joseph Smith's polygamy revelation in D&C Section 132 - and lost his Mormon faith. He reached out to John this week requesting to tell his story.

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Dec 28, 2022
1710: Book of Abraham, Part 3: A Look at the Text Itself w/ LDS Discussions - 32
02:46:38
In Parts 1 and 2 of this series Mike, John, and Nemo explored the history and controversies over whether the Book of Abraham is a literal translation of Egyptian as claimed by Joseph Smith.
 
Now for Part 3 they are back to look at what the text of the Book of Abraham actually says, including many prime LDS doctrines. What have been the consequences of believing those doctrines? Does the Book of Abraham merit being considered “revelation” and therefore binding to believing Saints today?
 
LDS Discussion Essay on Book of Abraham

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Dec 27, 2022
1709: How to Stay in the Mormon Church - Carol Lynn Pearson Pt 2
01:33:58

Carol discusses ways that she has enabled herself mentally and spiritually to stay in the Church, despite periods of inactivity and varying levels of hope. Has she gone through a “faith crisis” as many know it? What did she keep and what has she thrown away? Why does she stay?

How does Carol feel she makes a difference by staying in and also how and why has she been able to avoid excommunication, a common fate for those who undertake advocacy in the Church and come under the ire of leadership?

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Dec 21, 2022
1708: Giving God Another Chance - Carol Lynn Pearson Pt. 1
01:27:31
Carol Lynn Pearson is an amazing woman and still-active member of the Church who has done more advocacy for feminism and LGBTQ rights than any other member and for far longer through her songs, books, poetry, speaking engagements and other appearances (even Oprah)!
 
Carol Lynn Pearson is the example and embodiment of pure love. Anyone would do well to follow her example. 
 
In today's episode, Carol describes how she finds both feminine and masculine traits in the divine, and in such a lovely way that even hard-core atheists can find beauty and inspiration in her thoughts.
 
 

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Dec 19, 2022
1707: Book of Abraham, Part 2: Translation Apologetics w/ LDS Discussions - 31
02:34:46
Today we’re going through various apologetics and theories around the Book of Abraham to reconcile it being considered scripture along with what we know the literal interpretation of these things to be. What problems do these apologetics create in other areas for believers?  Do these theories hold water without a strong bias to believe in spite of all evidence? Do some apologists even admit it?
 
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Dec 16, 2022
1706: In Their Own Words w/ John Larsen & Carah Burrell
02:11:01

The best way to consume Mormon history is through original source documents, but where do you find them? In this episode we will review a list of primary sources for early Mormon history that are accessible and affordable to the budding historian.

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Dec 16, 2022
1705: "Perfect" Mormon leaves the LDS Church - Kelsey Edwards Pt. 2
01:45:01

Welcome back for part two!

A trip to Europe gives Kelsey a chance beyond her mission to see more of the outside world and the goodness and happiness that others have found while clearly outside of Mormonism. The trip also gives her the chance to tune in to herself and trust her intuition. Not ready to give up on her religion just yet, Kelsey returns home after the trip and ends up working with LDS Public Relations in various projects while also holding the calling of Relief Society President as she works through her active doubts.

Kelsey moves back to LA and finally realizes how much of a “box” LDS doctrines & beliefs put herself in. Kelsey takes us on a journey of personal discovery as she learns who she really is & to trust her own authority, leading her to the freest and fulfilled life she’s experienced thus far.

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Dec 14, 2022
1704: My Mormon Family Fell Apart - Kelsey Edwards Pt. 1
02:36:42

Kelsey Edwards has a unique upbringing as a child actor who was homeschooled by her Mormon parents. Driven by a desire to do what’s right and excel, Kelsey develops a perfectionism that goes beyond religious adherence into body image and leads to disordered eating. Kelsey is able to recover with help from her parents, only to be thrown into another family crisis as her father succumbs to an opiate addiction after chronic back pain and leaves both the Church and the family. As many children do, Kelsey feels she shares blame for the destruction of her family and re-commits to the LDS religion for strength and comfort. 

When her family moves to Provo, Utah, Mormon purity culture has costs for Kelsey’s self-esteem and body image as she continues pursuing performance at high school and BYU. Kelsey’s first doubts come as she serves a mission in Birmingham Alabama and grapples with the spirituality and fulfillment members of other faiths feel. Kelsey realizes belief in “eternal families” is far from unique to Mormonism but what IS unique about the Mormon version is the dark element that it’s predicated on a God deliberately separating families first.

Join us for the rest in Part 2!

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Dec 12, 2022
1703: Transgressions of Four Mormon Church Leaders | Gary James Bergera
01:54:41

Nearly since its founding, leaders of the LDS Church have excommunicated members for wrongdoing. In earlier times, such punishments might have lasted only weeks. Over the course of succeeding decades, this practice became more severe, constituting a wrenching removal from the community. Gaining readmittance often required intense penance and evidence of significant change stretching over a prolonged period of time. Sometimes this process even involved the leaders' colleagues. Justice and Mercy offers in-depth examinations of several high-profile case studies in church discipline, using journals and other sources close to the participants to provide candid detail.

Today we interview author Gary James Bergera and Editor Bryan Buchanan.

The book can be purchased here: Justice & Mercy

 


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Dec 09, 2022
1702: An Insider Look at LDS Church Operations - Scott Dyer
03:16:17

Today we get to meet Special Guest Scott Dyer from Rameumptom Ruminations, a podcast centered on Mormon theology & interpretations of scripture through the lens of philosophy, literature and art under the Mormon Discussions Podcasts umbrella.

John and Scott discuss Brian Harris, a recent guest on Rameumptom Ruminations who was an employee at church headquarters in the correlation department. Brian offers us a chance to pull back the curtain and learn a little bit more about what goes on behind the scenes. How does the church gather and use data from its members? How far up the chain does that data go? What goes into the creation, revising, or scrapping of church programs?

Rameumptom Ruminations Playlist on YouTube

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Dec 07, 2022
1701: Book of Abraham Translation w/ LDS Discussions - 30
01:50:57

Starting Book of Abraham! Join us at noon today for the intro to the issues around the "translation" of this controversial piece of Mormon scripture.

LDS Discussion Book of Abraham Essay

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Dec 05, 2022
1700: Mormon Apostle Dallin H. Oaks RESPONDS to Member's Opposing Vote!
02:33:00

When Douglas Stilgoe, AKA "Nemo the Mormon" on YouTube, no longer felt he could publicly sustain Mormonism's top leadership of apostles & prophets due to multiple acts of demonstrable dishonesty, he lost one of Mormonism's highest privileges: the ability to attend the Temple.

For Mormons, Temple worship goes FAR beyond religious ceremony. It is the gate by which believing Mormons qualify for Exaltation, the highest level of Heaven & privilege in the after-life according to Mormon theology, and by which marriages & family relationships are "sealed" together for eternity. Thus, losing the privilege of Temple worship doesn't just risk an individual's OWN eternal reward, but also puts one's eternal marriage and other family ties in jeopardy, some even to the extent of believing that faithful spouses and children will be "reassigned" to a faithful stranger who will replace the unbelieving spouse or parent in Heaven.

It is also synonymous with personal "worthiness", so any Mormons not permitted inside are often thought to be committing or in the process of repenting from egregious sins, such as adultery. Mormons who are not considered "worthy" to perform Temple ordinances themselves are also barred from even attending ordinances - like weddings - of any friends and family that take place there, another significant source of pain and alienation for some.

Naturally, Doug found it problematic that for believing Mormons, such important things as Exaltation and Eternal Family can be held hostage and denied for something as simple as refusing to agree to sustain leaders who, by virtue of a supposedly secret ordinance known as the "Second Anointing," are exempt from any accountability towards members of the Church, even for bold, deliberate acts of harm and dishonesty.

...or are they?

This episode documents attempts made by Doug (Nemo) to get to the bottom of whether Mormon doctrines & practices meant to instill accountability from its earliest days and scripture are still applicable today, or whether they've become mere ritual, devoid of any meaningful significance other than virtue-signaling conformity and a continued commitment to blind obedience. As a squeaky wheel unable to be assuaged or silenced by local leadership, Nemo surprises everyone (including himself) when he manages to bypass the usual gatekeepers and break through the glass ceiling separating Mormonism's apostles and prophets from the rank-and-file, successfully garnering the attention of none other than second highest-ranking apostle and next in line to become prophet, Dallin H. Oaks.

How did it go? Tune it to find out!

Nemo the Mormon YouTube Channel

  • "Evidence of Dishonesty" - Nemo's document (coming soon!)

Nemo's Coverage on Mormonism LIVE with Bill Reel, Radio Free Mormon, and John Dehlin

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Dec 02, 2022
1699: Losing Faith as a BYU Professor - Louisa Killian Pt. 2
01:21:42

Louisa Killian is back to talk about what happened after losing her job at BYU, and what resources helped her heal and grow. What have been her victories and challenges in rebuilding her life? How did her family react to her loss of faith? What role does art and creativity play in healing? How does Louisa navigate her marriage, parenting, self-care, and spirituality?

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Nov 30, 2022
1698: Losing Faith as a BYU Professor - Louisa Killian Pt 1
02:20:31

After her marriage to a "worthy" priesthood-holding Returned Missionary goes south when her husband is arrested for fraud, Louisa Killian finds love & equality in a relationship outside of the Church and a fulfilling career teaching dance at BYU. But when it's time to renew her Temple Recommend to keep her ecclesiastical endorsement (a requirement for employment at the Church school), Louisa finds that honesty has severe consequences.

Louisa Killian

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Nov 28, 2022
1697: Thriving in Love after Mormonism - Gary & Ernie
03:51:30

Content Warning: Suicidal Ideation

Gary and Ernie were both raised members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. They only had one major problem - they were gay. While Ernie tried marrying a woman and having children to "make the gay go away," Gary pursued graduate school, tried to date women, and eventually pursued a life of celibacy. At some point, both of their lives broke down.

Join us today for a true love story for the ages - how Gary and Ernie found love together, and how they are thriving today.

Gary & Ernie: Go Forward

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Nov 23, 2022
1696: Marriage on a Tightrope Interviews Margi & John Dehlin
02:11:14

Join Kattie & Allan from Marriage on a Tightrope as they interview John & Margi on the various aspects of faith transitioning as a couple.

Marriage on a Tightrope started as a resource for mixed-faith couples (like themselves) after Allan lost his faith. Mixed faith marriages have their own unique complications and issues and Allan & Kattie hold vulnerable conversations about their mixed faith marriage in order to give the listener context and resources to navigate their own relationship. They have helped hundreds of couples and families stay together and learn to love, accept, and communicate with each other when one goes through a faith transition. 

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Nov 22, 2022
1695: Leaving the Mormon Church in Australia - Tani Berlo
03:22:21

Content warning: Suicidal ideation, Drug addiction

Tani Berlo was raised in Australia as a biracial Mormon of Maori descent.  Showing an early love for history, Tani asked many questions of her LDS seminary teacher regarding science and history that caused concern.  This included questioning the validity of the "Lamanite" identity (from the Book of Mormon) handed to her as a descendent of the Maori people.

Later in Tani's teenage years she was shamed by her LDS church leaders for normative sexual exploration, and was ultimately summoned to a disciplinary council where she was asked sexually explicit questions by multiple men, and was disfellowshipped by the church.  This led to significant sexual shame as a temple married Latter-day saint.  After having children, Tani experienced significant post-partum depression and an opiate addiction, which when combined with her questioning of Mormon truth claims, led to a full-on faith crisis.

Today Tani hosts a TikTok channel on history with over 1.1 million followers.

This is Tani's Mormon story.

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Nov 21, 2022
1694: Mormon Church Supports Same-Sex Marriage?
01:28:39

Join us for a discussion on the Mormon Church coming out "in support" of the Respect for Marriage Act, which many Mormons are mistakenly interpreting as support for LGBTQ people, and for same-sex marriage.

LDS Newsroom Statement on the United States Congress Respect for Marriage Act

Co-host: Gerardo Sumano

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Brenton Erickson – Public Defender

Hannah Comeau – Recent law school graduate

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Nov 19, 2022
1693: Book Club - Jerald & Sandra Tanner - Despised and Beloved Critics of Mormonism
02:40:50

Join us for our first Mormon Stories Book Club episode covering LIGHTHOUSE - Jerald and Sandra Tanner, a biography written by Ronald Huggins.

Co-host: Rebecca Bibliotheca

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Sandra Tanner

Ronald Huggins

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Nov 18, 2022
1692: Gender Discrimination in the Mormon Church w/ John Larsen
02:40:47

Despite reports of progress, the Church today remains a highly discriminator organization. In this episode the panel will identify and discuss specific, concrete examples of how the Church explicitly discriminates today.

Co-host: Sam Shelly

Special Guest: Channel Achenbach

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Nov 18, 2022
1691: Polygamy Apologetics, Spiritual Wifery, etc w/ LDS Discussions - 29
03:08:28

Join John, Mike & Elisha Lee as they discuss common problematic apologies around the practice of polygamy in early Church History. From lies being called “carefully worded denials” and attempts to differentiate between “plural marriage” which God approved of or “spiritual wifery” which was not, and the fact that this is still current doctrine and what women have to look forward to in eternity and the harms caused past and present from this doctrine.

Special Guest: Elisha Lee

LDS Discussion Essay on Polygamy Apologetics

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Nov 17, 2022
1690: Gender Dysphoria & Mormonism - Amanda & Shaye Scott Pt. 2
02:37:05

Content Warning: Suicide Ideation

For Part 2 we come back to Shaye and Amanda's story after Shaye returns home from his mission. We learn how Shaye got involved in film with Mormon music group "The Piano Guys," their early issues with infertility, Amanda's schooling and career and the class (and book) that started her slowly on the path to finding out the real history of her belief system.

We also take a deep dive into Shaye's growing dysphoria into their marriage how that developed into severe internalized transphobia, which extended to the whole LGBTQ community as a whole as even allyship felt too "close" and "dangerous" to the secret he was trying to keep buried.

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Nov 15, 2022
1689: The Tyranny of Mormon Patriarchal Blessings - Amanda & Shaye Scott Pt. 1
02:44:41

Content Warning: Gender Dysphoria & Suicidal Ideation

Amanda and Shaye already have a following on their YouTube Channel "Great Scotts" but their video "Why we left the Mormon Church - coming out story" made an even bigger splash. Join us as we hear their stories growing up in Mormon families, their early testimonies and experiences with the Church, Shaye's gender dysphoria and thoughts of suicide, how they met, Shaye serving a mission, and their subsequent marriage after returning.

YouTube Channel: Great Scotts

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Nov 14, 2022
1688: The Happiness Letter (Joseph Smith's Proposition to Nancy Rigdon) w/ LDS Discussions - 28
02:56:21

In part 5 of our 6-part series on polygamy within the LDS Discussions project, we discuss "The Happiness Letter," which was the letter Joseph Smith wrote to Nancy Rigdon to try to convince her to become one of his plural wives.

Special Guest: Nemo the Mormon

LDS Discussion Essay on the Happiness Letter

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Nov 10, 2022
1687: Mormon Leader Ahmad Corbitt Condemns Activism Towards the LDS Church
03:23:24

Join us as we analyze a Mormon leader's private talk given to a small group of Church leaders that has stirred up the Mormon community. In his talk Ahmad S. Corbitt, first counselor in the LDS Church Young Men general presidency, vehemently condemns activism toward the Church.

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Nov 10, 2022
1686: Healing from Mormon Marital Sexual Dysfunction  - Larissa and Jeff Kindred Pt. 3
03:35:30
In Part 3 of 3 on this riveting story of Jeff & Larissa, we join them again as they bravely share their stories of sexual dysfunction due to LDS purity culture doctrines, Larissa's battle with breast cancer, Jeff's experiences with porn/masturbation, and BOTH Jeff and Larissa suppressing their sexuality.
 
They share their journey of healing and growing together in intimacy, as well as other changes post-Mormonism. What is parenting like? How have their beliefs changed and what do they believe now?

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Nov 09, 2022
1685: Unraveling the Progressive Mormon Dream - Larissa & Jeff Kindred Pt. 2
02:23:56
In this Part 2 of 3, we return to Jeff & Larissa's story. Now married, Larissa gives up her University Studies to help Jeff through Med school. They share their struggles with infertility, the adoption process, and adopting black children as orthodox Mormons.
 
Larissa faces difficulties in early motherhood and building resentment as they settle into traditional LDS gender roles. Larissa feels she is losing herself wrapped up in her husband's life, while at the same time trying to silence that part of her that is unhappy, seeing it as "wrong."
 
Larissa is called as a RS President, even as she becomes more vocally progressive/feminist and has hope for the Church to change, but it doesn't last.
 
Jeff realizes the Gospel can't fix Larissa's unhappiness as the root cause is Patriarchy. He serves in Bishoprics for 7 years before discovering more about Church history from the CES Letter, and Rough Stone Rolling, with the Gospel Topics Essays being the final straw.
 
Jeff & Larissa finally recognize the level of harm of systemic racism & sexism in Mormonism and no longer wish to be a part of it.
 
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Nov 08, 2022
1684: A Japanese-American Mormon Story - Jeff and Larissa Kindred Pt. 1
02:53:59

Join us as we meet Jeff & Larissa Kindred and follow their stories growing up as Latter-day Saints. Jeff's story includes a grooming scoutmaster, his love of sports, attending Snow College, and serving a mission in Jackson, Mississippi where he dealt with scrupulosity, unhealthy diet and exercise, becoming AP, and wrestling with racism in the Church culture & scripture.

Larissa's story involves her Japanese-American heritage, and gives a brief introduction on the history of anti-Japanese sentiment in Utah, including having been home to a Japanese "Work" Camp in Topaz. Larissa tells of the struggles her grandparents faced assimilating into Utah Culture and dealing with the loss of their own. Larissa also describes racism she experienced growing up in American Fork, UT and Mormon culture's ideals matching white beauty standards.

And this is just the beginning! Jeff and Larissa have a lot of experiences that many current and former Mormons will relate to and experiences that will be new for many to hear.

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Nov 08, 2022
1683: Mormon Church Tax Scandal in Australia
01:52:31

Join Simon Southerton and Neville Rochow as they discuss the breaking news story of potentially fraudulent behavior by the LDS Church in Australia.

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Nov 04, 2022
1682: Joseph Smith's Plural Marriage Proposals Pt 2 w/ LDS Discussions - 27
01:57:28

Join Mike (LDS Discussions), Elisha, and John for Part 2 as they look at the techniques of influence that Joseph Smith used to propose to his plural wives.

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Nov 03, 2022
1681: Rebuilding My Life after Returning Early from Mormon Mission - Brinley Jensen Pt. 2
01:52:03

Content Warning: Suicidal Ideation

Join us as Brinley returns to share what rebuilding her life was like after returning home from her mission and how she finally found her voice & happiness.

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Nov 02, 2022
1680: The Dark Side of a Mormon Mission - Brinley Jensen Pt. 1
03:01:57

Content Warning: Suicidal Ideation & Planning

Join John & Margi as they interview young and spunky Brinley Jensen, a Gen Z returned missionary, as she shares her experiences growing up in the Church and the consequences she's faced at various times as she's spoken up for herself and grown into the person she is.

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Nov 01, 2022
1679: Joseph Smith's Plural Marriage Proposals Pt 1 w/ LDS Discussions - 26
02:01:39

Join Mike (LDS Discussions), Elisha, and John as they look at the techniques of influence that Joseph Smith used to propose to his plural wives.

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Oct 27, 2022
1678: Tommy “THETOMSTERS” & Madison Johnson
04:21:27

Join us for two unique Mormon Stories as John Dehlin & Samantha Shelley interview Tommy & Madison Johnson. Tommy made fans and haters on both sides of belief when he hit the TikTok scene during COVID with funny skits on the peculiarities of Mormonism. What viewers couldn't see was that Tommy was struggling to know how to deal with many of the messier topics in Church History as well as the darker sides of modern Mormon doctrines such as the stance against the LGBTQ+ community, which includes his own sister, while ALSO navigating his mixed-faith marriage with Madison who stopped believing entirely after their Temple Marriage. Madison describes her life as having been "born into a faith crisis" due to stigma and family shame around being conceived out of wedlock by a teen mother. Madison's struggles with the faith continued through most of her life despite her levels of activity/involvement in the Church, even through her Temple Marriage with Tom. Madison leaves the Church upon finding the CES letter and she and Tommy work through what this will mean for their marriage, and even end up on an episode of the podcast "Marriage on a Tightrope" with Katie & Allan Mount. They finish off with where the couple is at today and how life is going since all of the changes they've been through. Guests:


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Oct 25, 2022
1677: John Larsen - Your Friend, the Church
02:37:56

Supreme Court Amicus Curie briefings are a way for organizations to influence and become involved in significant Court cases. For many years the church has used its high-powered attorneys to file briefs in major cases. We will discuss which cases and what the church truly values. 

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Oct 21, 2022
1676: D&C 132 - Joseph Smith's Polygamy "Revelation" w/ LDS Discussions - 25
03:05:05

Today’s episode continues the discussion on Polygamy with the (in)famous revelation still canonized in Mormon/LDS scripture as Section 132 of the Doctrine & Covenants. Mike sets up the historical & personal context of the timing of this revelation and the problematic ideas presented in it as coming from God including how God views women, redefining adultery and other moral issues, and the various rules and justifications given by God to practice polygamy. 

Mike goes on to show that Joseph admits himself that polygamy is something he wanted, and despite being the receiver of the various specific rules defined by God, he nevertheless proceeds to break every one of them. 

Finally, Mike goes over the many apologetics around this section of the Doctrine & Covenants and the problems with most of the arguments attempting to justify the revelation, Joseph’s polygamy, and the resulting polygamy among many of the branches of Mormonism, some continuing to this day. 

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Oct 20, 2022
1675: Navigating a Faith Crisis as Brothers-in-law: Chris Lee and Mitch Hadfield Pt. 2
02:35:10

Going through a faith crisis can be a lonely and isolating experience, especially in a believing family, so imagine the relief to find someone else is going through the same thing! Join John & Margi as they interview Chris Lee and Mitch Hadfield about their Mormon Story, their struggles with the faith, their relief to find understanding, support & solidarity with each other, and where their lives are now.

In Part 2 of 2, Chris and Mitch explain the sources of their individual faith crises and how they processed it. Chris’ was a slow burn with a long amount of time spent in progressive Mormonism, while Mitch went from fairly conservative to a nonbeliever overnight. They explain the results of sharing their faith loss with each other, their wives, and other believing family members and where Chris and Mitch find themselves today. 

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Oct 18, 2022
1674: Struggling to Complete a Mormon Mission: Chris Lee and Mitch Hadfield Pt. 1
02:12:26

Going through a faith crisis can be a lonely and isolating experience, especially in a believing family, so imagine the relief to find someone else is going through the same thing! Join John & Margi as they interview Chris Lee and Mitch Hadfield about their Mormon Story, their struggles with the faith, their relief to find understanding, support & solidarity with each other, and where their lives are now.

In Part 1 of 2, Chris and Mitch tell their respective stories growing up in Mormon families and share their individual struggles serving missions for the Church. Chris struggles deeply with depression and anxiety resulting in going home early though at the cost of guilt that will last for years. Mitch experiences shame over “unrepented sins,” difficulties of the mission, and deals with suicidal ideation, though his does finish the full two-year term.

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Oct 17, 2022
1673: An Introduction to Mormon Polygamy w/ LDS Discussions - 24
01:54:54

Mike and John discuss the timeline and cultural context surrounding Joseph Smith at the time he claims to receive the revelation on polygamy which became canonized and is still considered scripture for many modern Mormon branches, some who still practice it today, and even ones who don't, like the largest Mormon branch headquartered in Salt Lake City, Utah.

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Oct 13, 2022
1672: Being Gay at BYU - Daniel Spencer Pt . 2
02:07:03

Content Warning: Mention of sexual acts, suicide, & suicidal ideation

Join us for a very special episode & guest, Daniel Spencer (@DanBamBam on Social Media) to share his heartwarming story with us. From growing up as a closeted gay Mormon teenager in a country where being gay isn't just illegal, but dangerous, to his mission experiences and discovering his talent not just for comedy but for starting important conversations at BYU and beyond! Daniel Spencer (@DanBanBam)

Trigger Warning: Suicides & Suicidal Ideation

In this part 2 of 2, Daniel returns to share what the remainder of his mission was like, his studies at BYU, dealing with his homosexuality, learning more about the Church's history and truth claims, and his attempts to learn to speak his truth out loud after decades of hiding who he was. Daniel attempts to use social media to bring attention to important issues as well as give people a chance to speak their truth, even if anonymously.

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Oct 11, 2022
1671: Growing Up Mormon in Zimbabwe - Daniel Spencer Pt . 1
02:24:55

Content Warning: Mention of sexual acts, suicide, & suicidal ideation

Join us for a very special episode & guest, Daniel Spencer (@DanBamBam on Social Media) to share his heartwarming story with us. From growing up as a closeted gay Mormon teenager in a country where being gay isn't just illegal, but dangerous, to his mission experiences and discovering his talent not just for comedy but for starting important conversations at BYU and beyond! Daniel Spencer (@DanBanBam)

Content Warning: Mention of sexual acts

In Part 1 of 2, Dan tells us about his Mormon upbringing in Zimbabwe, from how his parents met each other, ended up in Zimbabwe, and what may be different for Zimbabwean Latter-day Saints from the more common US & Utah-based stories. We learn what his teens were like, including sexual mores and education where Dan grew up and he shares his own experiences. We also learn when and how Dan began to gain his testimony of the Gospel, his decision to attend BYU and serve a mission, and what his experiences were like going through the Temple for the first time and his early mission experiences.

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Oct 10, 2022
1670: October General Conference - Panel Discussion
02:54:50

Description: Join us for our very first General Conference Panel of Discussion on Mormon Stories Podcast. John, Samantha, Gerardo, Nemo, and John’s dad, David will analyze a few statements made during the October 2022 Mormon General Conference. You can't miss this one! Official Channel for General Conference Guest Panelists:

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Oct 06, 2022
1669: LDS Temple Endowment & Masonry w/ LDS Discussions - 23
01:56:59

Join Mike and John as they discuss Mormonism’s early connection with Masonry through Joseph Smith and the unique problems it creates for members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to grapple with today.

Covered topics include the timeline of Joseph becoming a Master Mason before introducing the similarly-themed rituals of the Temple Endowment Ceremony, why many members and apologists claim Masonry to be of ancient origin despite evidence to the contrary, the many parallels between the secret rituals of both organizations, and whether or the Temple Endowment involved false doctrines.

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Oct 06, 2022
1668: Mormon Stake Presidency Counselor Confronts General Authorities - Evan and Weston Smith Pt. 3
02:42:37
Trigger Warning: Suicidal Ideation
 
Evan Smith rose through the ranks of Mormon leadership ultimately becoming a Stake Presidency member. While serving as an LDS Bishop, Evan struggled with the Church’s positions on LGBTQ+ issues and later found out that his son Weston was gay. Even after coming out, Weston decided to serve an LDS Mission as an openly gay man, leading him to high levels of depression and heartbreaking experiences during and after coming back early from his mission.
 
Evan became an advocate for LGBTQ people in the Church. His position as a Stake Presidency Counselor led him to a few confrontations/discussions with General Authorities and a later meeting at Church Headquarters where they discussed Evan’s progressive beliefs on LGBTQ matters.
 
In Part 3 of 3, Evan describes getting called as a Stake Counselor, his attempts to be an ally for LGBTQ individuals and his subsequent faith crisis. Evan has a few debates/confrontations with Area Seventy Elder McCune (higher than Stake Presidency in Mormon leadership) over his gay son. Evan emails Apostles and other leaders on how the Church can change to be more loving and accepting of LGBTQ members resulting in a meeting with General Authority Allen D. Haynie. Evan continues faith deconstruction when his wife begins her faith crisis, and they both come to see the issues with sexism in the Church, biblical scholarship opening up new issues, and the family’s ultimate decision to leave the Church. 
 

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Oct 05, 2022
1667: Coming Out as the Gay Son of a Mormon Bishop, Serving a Mission - Evan and Weston Smith Pt.2
02:50:18

Trigger Warning: Suicidal Ideation

Evan Smith rose through the ranks of Mormon leadership ultimately becoming a Stake Presidency member. While serving as an LDS Bishop, Evan struggled with the Church’s positions on LGBTQ+ issues and later found out that his son Weston was gay. Even after coming out, Weston decided to serve an LDS Mission as an openly gay man, leading him to high levels of depression and heartbreaking experiences during and after coming back early from his mission.
 
Evan became an advocate for LGBTQ people in the Church. His position as a Stake Presidency Counselor led him to a few confrontations/discussions with General Authorities and a later meeting at Church Headquarters where they discussed Evan’s progressive beliefs on LGBTQ matters.
 
In Part 2 of 3, we start off where we left with Weston’s story growing up as a gay Mormon kid, discovering his sexuality, his suicidal ideation, and his decision to serve a mission as an “out” gay Mormon. Upon experiencing suicidality again on his mission Weston has a “spiritual experience” which leads to his resolve to leave the church and live a happy life. Meanwhile, Evan gets a call to become a 1st counselor in the Stake Presidency.

 

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Oct 04, 2022
1666: Becoming a Progressive Mormon Bishop, Son Comes Out as Gay - Evan and Wes Smith Pt. 1
02:38:24

Evan Smith rose through the ranks of Mormon leadership ultimately becoming a Stake Presidency member. While serving as an LDS Bishop, Evan struggled with the Church’s positions on LGBTQ+ issues and later found out that his son Weston was gay. Even after coming out, Weston decided to serve an LDS Mission as an openly gay man, leading him to high levels of depression and heartbreaking experiences during and after coming back early from his mission.

Evan became an advocate for LGBTQ people in the Church. His position as a Stake Presidency Counselor led him to a few confrontations/discussions with General Authorities and a later meeting at Church Headquarters where they discussed Evan’s progressive beliefs on LGBTQ matters. Join John and Gerardo as they interview Evan and his son Weston about their fascinating Mormon Story. 

In Part 1 of 3, we learn of Evan’s relatively normal LDS (Mormon) upbringing in Utah, early testimony-building experiences, and troubling issues on his mission regarding difficult Church topics including the Church’s racism & homophobia. Evan attends BYU and meets his wife, Cheryl, and works through law school with three children. He becomes a Branch President (leader of a local congregation-similar to a Bishop, but over a smaller congregation) and begins learning Gospel teachings and experiences weren’t as simple as they initially seemed, culminating in his son, Weston, coming out to him as gay.

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Oct 03, 2022
1665: Race & Mormon Scripture Pt 2 w/ LDS Discussions - 22
02:27:36

Join us for Part 2 of our discussion on Race and the Book of Mormon. Today Mike and John go over the various apologetics for the apparent racism in the Book of Mormon and early Church leaders, from denying those particular scriptures are literal, to saying “everyone was racist back then” and of course, breaking down the various problems each creates for a Church said to be built on the basis of revelation to modern prophets.

1663: Race and Mormon Scripture Pt 1 w/ LDS Discussions - 21

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Sep 29, 2022
1664: Boy Scouts Bankruptcy and the Mormon Church - An Update w/ Tim Kosnoff
58:12

TRIGGER WARNING: Mentions of Sexual Assault, Rape, Child Abuse

Tim Kosnoff is back to share an update about the Boy Scouts of America Bankruptcy Filing and urgent deadline at the end of 2022 for anyone in California who was abused by a Boy Scout Leader outside of official BSA activities to be able to join a class-action lawsuit before the window is closed forever.

Anyone with questions or think this might apply to themselves or someone they love are encouraged to contact an attorney (ideally one with experience with child abuse claims) to learn more. Tim Kosnoff is a US attorney who has spent the last two decades representing victims of abuse and has graciously volunteered to talk with anyone who may have questions about this case. Contact info provided below.

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Sep 28, 2022
1663: Race and Mormon Scripture Pt 1 w/ LDS Discussions - 21
02:13:55

Join Mike from LDSdiscussions.com and John as they discuss race and Mormon scripture. This is part 1 of a 2-part series. We are also grateful to have a few call-in guests for this episode.

Today’s episode covers:

  • Personal stories from black members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons) of the racist things said to them and ways they were treated, and how psychologically harmful the racist doctrines have been for them
  • The most problematic verses and teaching of past prophets from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints that specifically highlight dark or black skin as a curse directly from God
  • Context and proof showing the belief literally meant dark skin and was not an idiom or euphemism for anything else
  • The early belief that the skin color of Indigenous North Americans could/did actually change to become lighter when converting to Mormonism and living more “righteously”
  • The Book of Abraham as evidence of Joseph Smith’s racism, codifying racism into scripture for ALL black people, not just as a curse specific to North American Indigenous people as stated in the Book of Mormon.
  • The doctrinal basis for the early Mormon ban against black people worshiping and marrying in the Temple, as well as the ban against black Mormon men from receiving the Priesthood, the authority needed to hold any leadership position in the Church as well as perform essential saving ordinances such as baptism, receiving the gift of the Holy Ghost etc.
  • The real reasons the Church was pressured to lift the ban and the measures taken to make it happen despite continued vehement opposition among some Church leaders.

1665: Race & Mormon Scripture Pt 2 w/ LDS Discussions – 22

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Sep 22, 2022
1662: Losing Faith as the Grandson of an LDS Apostle (Joseph B. Wirthlin) - Greg Gerritsen Pt. 2
02:56:39

Join us for Part 2 of our 2-part interview with pilot Greg Gerritsen

Join us for Part 2 of our 2-part interview with pilot Greg Gerritsen - grandson of the late and much believed Mormon or LDS Church apostle Joseph B. Wirthlin. In this series, Greg shares with us more of his own journey in the Church including:

  • Greg's mission experiences, many made more difficult by knowledge of his relationship with Elder Wirthlin
  • What Greg learned at Weber that began affecting his testimony
  • How often General Authorities miss out on family activities and events in service to the Church
  • How the Church deals with aging apostles once they begin to lose lucidity
  • How Greg lost his LDS testimony in spite of descending from the Mormon "elite," and what led him to want to tell his story.

Also, Greg shares his opinion on whether his grandfather actually "saw" Jesus Christ as an LDS apostle. We hope you enjoy!!!

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Sep 21, 2022
1661: Growing Up As a Grandson of a Mormon Apostle (Joseph B Wirthlin) - Greg Gerritsen Pt 1
02:39:54

Join us for Part 1 of our 2-part interview with pilot Greg Gerritsen - grandson of the late and much believed Mormon or LDS Church apostle Joseph B. Wirthlin. In this series, Greg shares with us many fascinating stories about his experiences with his grandfather including:

  • The tendency of LDS church members to overly worship General Authorities, along with the unhealthy obsession some Mormons have with "access" to General Authorities.
  • The undying love Elder Wirthlin had for his wife (Elisa), his family, and for football.
  • The extent to which nepotism, cronyism, and patronage play a part in the selection of LDS church General Authorities.
  • The downsides/sacrifices of being an LDS church Apostle/General Authority.
  • The existence of divisions and "cliques" in the LDS church quorum of the 12 Apostles.
  • The unhealthy pressures and expectations put on the children and grandchildren of LDS General Authorities, that often lead to a familial emphasis on "public appearance" over healthy relationships.
  • The "code" that exists within families of LDS General Authorities to never do or say anything to bring dishonor to the family name or church, including speaking out about a loss of faith, which leads many descendants of LDS apostles to lie about and/or hide their loss of faith.

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1660: Why do Ex-Mormons Appear So Angry? w/ John Larsen & Carah Burrell
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[TW] Abuse, suicide

Carah B, John L, and John D go over the tropes and stereotypes of "hateful" ex-Mormons.

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1659: Word of Wisdom w/ LDS Discussions - 20
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John and Mike discuss the origins and influences around Joseph Smith and the Creation of the Word of Wisdom.

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1658: Tough Questions for John Dehlin - Patrick Mason Pt 3
01:22:21

Patrick Mason returns to flip the script and put John under scrutiny!

Patrick Q. Mason holds the Leonard J. Arrington Chair of Mormon History and Culture at USU. He has written or edited several books, including Proclaim Peace: The Restoration’s Answer to an Age of Conflict (Maxwell Institute and Deseret Book, 2021); Mormonism and Violence: The Battles of Zion (Cambridge University Press, 2019); What Is Mormonism? A Student's Introduction (Routledge, 2017); Out of Obscurity: Mormonism since 1945, co-edited with John Turner (Oxford University Press, 2016); Directions for Mormon Studies in the Twenty-First Century (University of Utah Press, 2016); and The Mormon Menace: Violence and Anti-Mormonism in the Postbellum South (Oxford University Press, 2011). He was a Fulbright Scholar in Romania in 2015 and is a past president of the Mormon History Association. Professor Mason is frequently consulted by the national and international media on stories related to Mormon culture and history. He teaches courses on Mormonism, American religious history, and religion, violence, and peacebuilding.

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1657: A Scholarly Defense of Faithful Mormonism - Patrick Mason Pt 2
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Join us today for part 2 of our interview with faithful Mormon scholar Dr. Patrick Mason. In part 2 John and Margi discuss with Patrick his approach to thoughtful, faithful Mormonism as a scholar of Mormon Studies. Patrick Q. Mason holds the Leonard J. Arrington Chair of Mormon History and Culture at USU. He has written or edited several books, including Proclaim Peace: The Restoration’s Answer to an Age of Conflict (Maxwell Institute and Deseret Book, 2021); Mormonism and Violence: The Battles of Zion (Cambridge University Press, 2019); What Is Mormonism? A Student's Introduction (Routledge, 2017); Out of Obscurity: Mormonism since 1945, co-edited with John Turner (Oxford University Press, 2016); Directions for Mormon Studies in the Twenty-First Century (University of Utah Press, 2016); and The Mormon Menace: Violence and Anti-Mormonism in the Postbellum South (Oxford University Press, 2011). He was a Fulbright Scholar in Romania in 2015 and is a past president of the Mormon History Association. Professor Mason is frequently consulted by the national and international media on stories related to Mormon culture and history. He teaches courses on Mormonism, American religious history, and religion, violence, and peacebuilding.

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1656: Becoming a Faithful Scholar - Patrick Mason Pt 1
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LDS Scholar, author & apologist, Patrick Mason, shares his (brief) Mormon Story, including his childhood & teenage years before serving a Mission in Seattle, Washington. Patrick studies history at BYU, then Peacebuilding and Conflict Resolution at Notre Dame. Patrick explains how became nuanced and how he navigates difficult issues with the Mormon Church. He currently holds the Leonard J. Arrington Chair of Mormon History and Culture at Utah State University.

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1655: Changes to the Doctrine & Covenants w/ LDS Discussions -19
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John & Mike discuss changes made to the Doctrine & Covenants, part of the Mormon Canon.

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1654: Taking Down Warren Jeffs - Elissa Wall Pt 3
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Elissa Wall is internationally known as the "woman who brought down Warren Jeffs." Never before has she been able to tell her full story, in an un-edited way. This is part 3 of her story, focusing on her efforts to put Warren Jeffs in prison, and how she has rebuilt a life since.

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1653: My Life as an FLDS Child Bride - Elissa Wall Pt. 2
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Elissa Wall is internationally known as the "woman who brought down Warren Jeffs." Never before has she been able to tell her full story, in an un-edited way. This is part 2 of her story, focusing on her forced marriage to her first cousin at age 14 by FLDS prophet Warren Jeffs.

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1652: Growing up in the Shadow of Warren Jeffs - Elissa Wall Pt. 1
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1651: Priesthood Restoration w/ LDS Discussions - 18
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Join John & Mike as they discuss the timeline for the restoration of the Priesthood compared to the current Church narrative.

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Sep 01, 2022
1650: John Dehlin's Thoughts on Christianity - w/ Steven Pynakker of Mormon Book Reviews
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John's in the hot seat AGAIN as Steve Pynakker from YouTube Channel Mormon Book Reviews interviews John on his Spiritual Journey after being excommunicated from the Mormon Church.

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Sep 01, 2022
1649: John Dehlin in the Hot Seat - An Interview with Rick Bennett of Gospel Tangents
03:59:29

John takes the hot seat this time as Rick Bennett from YouTube Channel Gospel Tangents does the interviewing. Gospel Tangents is a channel looking to represent a 360 degree view of Mormonism and welcomes guests representing various views and experiences of the Restoration Gospel started by Joseph Smith. 

Rick calls John Dehlin the "grandfather" of Mormon podcasting. Not that he's old, but rather internet-old! Rick asks John about his journey in and out of the Church, dating an Oscar-winning actress in high school, some of his dealing with general authorities, and his excommunication and aftermath. They also discuss his tangles with apologists & neo-apologists, the Swedish Rescue, and whether he really wants people to stay LDS.

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Aug 29, 2022
1648: Joseph Smith's First Vision w/ LDS Discussions - 17
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John and Mike discuss historical & theological issues surrounding the accounts of Joseph Smiths "First" Vision.

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Aug 25, 2022
1647: The Neophyte Problem in the Book of Mormon - Dr. Thomas Murphy Pt. 3
02:22:28

Dr. Thomas Murphy presents his fascinating findings regarding 19th Century Native American Christian converts that closely resemble important personages in The Book of Mormon. Join John and Gerardo as they are captivated by these stories and discuss the probability that these are the stories that inspired Joseph Smith’s creation of Book of Mormon characters.

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1646: Is the Book of Mormon Racist? - Dr. Thomas Murphy Pt. 2
01:53:03

The Mormon Church has struggled with the engraved racist passages in its most holy book of scripture such as the divine curse that came upon the Lamanites turning them into loathsome people with a skin of blackness. Anthropologist Dr. Thomas Murphy joined John and Gerardo to discuss racism in The Book of Mormon and how Joseph Smith stole native culture, mixed it with racist ideas of his time, published it, and sold it as theirs. We also discuss how these racist ideas contained in the Book of Mormon have transcended into modern Mormon Culture and beliefs.

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1645: Anthropology & Mormonism - Dr. Thomas Murphy
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Renowned anthropologist Dr. Thomas Murphy comes back to update us on his journey engaging with Mormon scholarship and decolonization efforts. Join John and Gerardo as they enter into a fascinating discussion with Dr. Murphy about Book of Mormon apologetics and criticisms through the lens of a Mormon anthropologist's life.

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1644: Mormon Church Discouraging Sex Abuse Victims from Reporting - Survivor Stories
02:47:46

TRIGGER WARNING: Mentions of Sexual Assault, Rape, Child Abuse

In light of the recent Associated Press article about the Mormon church abuse hotline, we decided to ask our podcast listeners if any of them had ever been discouraged by Mormon leadership from reporting abuse to the police. Hundreds of listeners responded with concrete, and heart-wrenching examples. In Friday's episode, John and Jenn will be reading many of the accounts (scrubbed of identifying information), so as to highlight the longstanding and ongoing problem of abuse cases NOT being reported to police within the Mormon church.

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Aug 19, 2022
1643: The Trinity & the Book of Mormon with John Larsen
01:42:39

Join John Larsen, John Dehlin and Carah Burrell as they discuss how prior to the 1837 edits, The Book of Mormon was squarely trinitarian in its approach to God and Jesus christ. Some trinitarian elements remain in the book today. We will discuss and analyze each Passage to determine what Smith's theology was in the early days of Mormonism.

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Aug 19, 2022
1642: Deutero-Isaiah w/ LDS Discussions - 16
01:35:56

Join John and Mike, from LDS Discussions for an introduction to the multiple authors of Isaiah and what that means for the Book of Mormon.

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Aug 18, 2022
1641: Help Make Utah Mormon Bishops Mandatory Reporters - Protect Kids Rally
01:00:06

Join John as he interviews Utah Representative Angela Romero, Lindsey Lundholm, and Dr. Julie Hanks about the upcoming Protect Kids rally, in favor of requiring clergy to report abuse.

ALL adults across the state, without exception, should be mandated to report child abuse. Representative Angela Romero has championed this legislation over the past two years. She is sponsoring the rally and will be the keynote speaker. Lindsey Lundholm is the grassroots organizer for the Protect Kids rally, and passionate about giving children one more safe line of defense against abuse. As a therapist and member of the LDS faith, Dr. Julie Hanks, stands in support of eliminating the clergy loophole. Please join us at the south steps of the Utah State Capitol this Friday @ 6:30pm. WEAR TEAL in support of SA survivors.

More details here: https://fb.me/e/2G8FC1foR

For those unable to attend in person, the event will be streamed live. In case of inclement weather, the event will be held fully online via Facebook live at 6:30pm on Friday, August 19th. Currently in Utah law, clergy are exempt from mandatory reporting of child abuse. Recent news stories have highlighted how this exception can lead to serious harm for children, and a grey area for clergy.

Let’s make the law clear: protecting children from abuse is the first priority. We are rallying to educate and encourage the state to pass laws that close the clergy loophole. We believe this is the year we can get it passed, to provide a safer Utah for children.

How you can help in the meantime:

🔹 RSVP to the Facebook event, and invite your circle of influence: https://fb.me/e/2G8FC1foR

🔹 Follow, like, and share on Instagram @mandateclergyreporting

🔹 Sign this petition (40k+ signatures): Make LDS Clergy Mandatory Reporters: https://chng.it/6DvQJS5rLF

🔹 DM or email us at mandateclergyreporting@gmail.com to lend support, offer to volunteer, etc.

🔹 Share your story. If you would like to express how you or a loved one has been impacted by the clergy exemption, please follow this link for more details:

* Find your representative link: https://le.utah.gov/GIS/findDistrict.jsp https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1n4Ai...

Aug 15, 2022
1640: Boy Scout Abuse and the Mormon Church with Attorney Tim Kosnoff
02:17:14

TRIGGER WARNING: Mentions of Sexual Assault, Rape, Child Abuse

Join John and Gerardo as they interview attorney Tim Kosnoff about the relationship between the Boy Scouts of America abuse epidemic and the Mormon church.

Tim Kosnoff is a US attorney who has spent the last two decades representing victims of abuse.

His introduction to the LDS Church and their lawyers was when he represented Jeremiah Scott who was sexually abused by a serial paedophile Frank Curtis. His work, in this case, appears in Lisa Davis’ legal thriller, The Sins of Brother Curtis.  This case has led to a practice in which he has come to represent over 150 Mormon abuse victims bringing him face to face with the Mormon law machine repeatedly.

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People can reach my office at 206.785.7326

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Aug 12, 2022
1639: The Mormon Church Abuse Hot Line with Attorney Tim Kosnoff
02:40:26

TRIGGER WARNING: Mentions of Sexual Assault, Rape, Child Abuse, Suicide

Join John and Gerardo as they interview attorney Tim Kosnoff about the history and evolution of the Mormon church abuse hotline.  This hotline has resurfaced recently in the news in response to an Associated Press news story about the Mormon church (through its abuse hotline) telling two Arizona Mormon bishops not to report abuse to authorities, leading to seven years of child abuse in the abuser’s family.

Tim Kosnoff is a US attorney who has spent the last two decades representing victims of abuse.

His introduction to the LDS Church and their lawyers was when he represented Jeremiah Scott who was sexually abused by a serial pedophile Frank Curtis. His work, in this case, appears in Lisa Davis’ legal thriller, The Sins of Brother Curtis.  This case has led to a practice in which he has come to represent over 150 Mormon abuse victims bringing him face to face with the Mormon law machine repeatedly.

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1638: The Mormon Abuse AP Article and The Church's Response
03:19:07

TRIGGER WARNING: Mentions of Sexual Assault, Rape, Child Abuse

When a father of a 5-year-old girl who was in counseling with his Mormon Bishop admitted to abusing his daughter, the Bishop followed the guidance of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and called a so-called "helpline" and he was advised by Church Lawyers to tell no one. The man continued to abuse his daughter for 7 more years and went on to assault her newborn sister. The AP has done a deep investigation into the Mormon Church's mishandling of child abuse and their article from last week has spread like wildfire. 

The LDS Church has put its PR department and news media outlets on high alert and they issued an official response and at least two articles trying to respond to the egregious revelations by the Associated Press. 

Join John, Gerardo, and Utah criminal defense attorney Brenton Erickson as they do a deep dive into the AP article and analyze whether the Church adequately explained the alarming allegations in the article. 

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Aug 11, 2022
1637: How the Mormon Church Handles Abuse: A History
03:13:26

TRIGGER WARNING: Mentions of Sexual Assault, Rape, Child Abuse

The bombshell article by the Associated Press about the LDS Church’s abuse cover-up in Arizona and West Virgina has taken the Mormon community by storm. As the kickoff episode to our series covering the Mormon church’s handling of abuse John, Jenn, and Gerardo will react to a shocking 2018 interview by Gina Colvin with attorney Tim Kosnoff about his experiences representing over 150 Mormon sexual abuse victims that have brought him face-to-face with Kirton & McConkie and the Mormon law machine.

On Friday we will be interviewing Tim Kosnoff in studio to discuss the AP article in more detail, provide an update on the church's handling of abuse cases, and to discuss the Boy Scouts of America case. A link to Gina's original interview is in the show notes below.

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Aug 10, 2022
1636: Finding Peace with Infertility - Jessica Parker
02:26:55

Join us as we welcome Jessica Parker to the Thrive Stories podcast to discuss her journey of accepting and finding peace in infertility. As a woman who was raised in a faithful Latter-day Saint home, Jessica absorbed all the messages about the role of women and her divine purpose to bear children. She served a mission, got married in the temple, and gave her time and energy to the church for years. All of this came into question when Jessica began her faith journey--which then led to deconstructing and rebuilding her innate sense of value, identity, and purpose as a human being.

Thrive Stories is a podcast series where Margi (alongside John or Jenn) interviews a member of the community once per month. The interviews are shorter (2-3 hours), story-based, and are focused on a particular aspect of healing and growth AFTER a Mormon faith crisis (thus the THRIVE name). They generally happen on Tuesdays at noon (MST). Some examples of areas of thriving include: Family Relationships, Healthy Boundaries, Finding Community, Finding Meaning/Purpose, Dealing with Grief/Death, Religion after Mormonism, Health Sexuality, Parenting, Improving Physical Health, Identity, Health Marriage/Relationships, Secular Spirituality, Word of Wisdom 2.0, and Women Finding Their Own Voice after Mormonism.

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1635: The Great Mormon Missionary Decline
02:46:39

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is known globally for its massive missionary force. Over the past year we have received several independent reports suggesting serious distress in the Mormon missionary program, including:

  • A sharp decline in the number of LDS missionaries overall.
  • A sharp decline in the number of young men willing to serve missions.
  • A significant increase in the number of LDS missionaries returning home early.
  • Troubling new rhetoric/teachings from Mormon church leadership suggesting (out of seeming desperation) that Mormon missionary service for young men is mandatory/compulsory.

On Thursday at 4pm (mountain) we will be exploring this issue. If you have any data or stories regarding these (or other) developments regarding Mormon missionary work, please post them as comments below, or email us at: mormonstories@gmail.com and we can include your input in the show (anonymously if requested). Also, please plan to join us live for this show, wherein we hope to accept live video call-ins from viewers.

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Aug 04, 2022
1634: Losing Faith at BYU - Ally Christiansen Pt 2
02:38:26

Ally, a returned-missionary and member of BYU’s elite choir, BYU Singers, describes her struggles with perfectionism, mental health, harmful aspects of BYU culture, and discovering her asexuality in the context of marriage-centric Mormonism.

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Aug 02, 2022
1633: Struggling with Mormon Perfectionism - Ally Christiansen Pt 1
03:15:27

Ally, a returned-missionary and member of BYU’s elite choir, BYU Singers, describes her struggles with perfectionism, mental health, harmful aspects of BYU culture, and discovering her asexuality in the context of marriage-centric Mormonism.

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Aug 02, 2022
1632: The Long Ending of Mark in the Book of Mormon w/ LDS Discussions - 15
52:02

Description: A look at how a late addition to the New Testament ended up in the Book of Mormon and what that tells us about the Book of Mormon's credibility as an ancient text.

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Jul 28, 2022
1631: The Church vs the Gospel: The Infamous Poelman Talk with John Larsen
02:20:46

In 1984 Elder Ron Poelman gave a conference talk that was modified and re-recorded. What was done and why was it done?

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Show Notes

Ronald Poelman – Censored General Conference Talk – Nov 16, 1984

The Gospel and the Church – Sunstone Article

Elder Poelman’s Famous Speech (Sunstone Blog)

Dr. Brown’s 7 Honest Questions for Atheists – My Reply

MS Episode Elbert Peck

Metaphors We Live By, Lakoff & Johnson

Packer’s “Unwritten Order of Things”

MS Native American Women and the Lamanite Myth

Free/Moral Agency and Missions Talk

Book: This is My Doctrine, Charles Harrell

MS Episode: BYU Professor Charles Harrell & Evolution of Mormon Doctrine

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Jul 27, 2022
1630: Toxic Mormon Family Systems - Ari and Adam
04:01:02

Ari talks about growing up in the picture perfect Mormon family, and how it all crumbled when she was excommunicated from that family for speaking out against abuse. In this episode, we discuss how Ari lost her faith in the church when she realized that it, too was rooted in abuse and lies, and set on excommunicating those who spoke out against those things. In her discovery, she concluded that the church creates toxic family systems and even abuse cycles. Ari and Adam are parents to 9 kids, and are now cycle breakers.

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Jul 25, 2022
1629: The Sermon on the Mount in the Book of Mormon w/ LDS Discussions - 14
01:13:45

We dive into the Sermon on the Mount and look at why it appears in the Book of Mormon along with what the changes tell us about the author of the Book of Mormon.

Show Notes: 

LDS Discussions article: 

Track Changes: The Sermon on the Mount – Book of Mormon vs. New Testament: 

Book of Mormon Central explanation: 

Brent Metcalfe MS episode 

MS Episode with Bart Ehrman 

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Jul 21, 2022
1628: The German Mormon Artist Who Went Viral - Jonas Jödicke
04:25:08

Dive into the fascinating story of Jonas Jödicke with John Dehlin and Nemo the Mormon. Born in the church in Germany, Jonas discovered an artistic talent which would lead his work to be adored all over the world. At the same time, Jonas had begun to discover his sexuality and what that would mean for his place in Mormonism.

Show Notes:

Jonas Jödicke (Fantasy Art) (@jojoesart) • Instagram photos and videos

Nemo the Mormon - YouTube

Thrive Beyond Religion

Musikalischer Abend Der Verlorene Sohn am 8. Dezember 2018 in Berlin

Moroni and the Swastika: Mormons in Nazi Germany: Nelson, David Conley 

https://mormonstories.org/?s=scrupulosity

1144-1146: A More Effective Approach to Masturbation and Pornography: For Teens and Adults - Mormon Stories

National Suicide Prevention Lifeline or dial 988 (US)

http://Cesletter.org

MormonThink

 

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Jul 21, 2022
1627: Waking Up from the Mormon Dream - Linda Barney w/ Margi Dehlin
03:18:11

What happens when a true believing mormon mom discovers that two of her “future missionary” sons are gay/queer/nonbinary? Just when Linda Barney thought she had the perfect life planned for her family, she discovered that letting her kids be exactly who they are and loving them unconditionally was a far happier and healthier path to follow than the one she had always been taught to believe in. Join us for this compelling Thrive Stories episode about Parenting LGBTQIA children.

 

Thrive Stories is a new podcast series where Margi (alongside John or Jenn) will be interviewing a member of the community twice per month.  The interviews will be shorter (1-2 hours), story-based, but will be focused on a particular aspect of healing and growth AFTER a Mormon faith crisis (thus the THRIVE name).  They will happen on Tuesdays at noon (MST). Some examples of areas of thriving include:  Family Relationships, Healthy Boundaries, Finding Community, Finding Meaning/Purpose, Dealing with Grief/Death, Religion after Mormonism, Health Sexuality, Parenting, Improving Physical Health, Identity, Health Marriage/Relationships, Secular Spirituality, Word of Wisdom 2.0, and Women Finding Their Own Voice after Mormonism.

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Jul 20, 2022
1626: The Tower of Babel and Mormon Scripture w/ LDS Discussions - 13
01:00:24

We review the historicity of the Tower of Babel and how the story is written into the Book of Mormon and directly leads to the stones that Joseph Smith claims were buried with the gold plates.

Show notes:

http://ldsdiscussions.com/babel

David Bokovoy MS episodes

MS Bart Ehrman episode

Noah’s Flood – w/ Simon Southerton

Adam and Eve MS episode with LDS Discussions

BOM translation episode with LDS Discussions

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Jul 15, 2022
1625: Ellee Duke and Auz Engemann Part 2 - Going Deeper After Mormonism
02:48:33

Singer songwriter Ellee Duke and her husband Auz Engemann share what life was like growing up in affluent (even idyllic) Mormon communities (Provo and Draper, Utah) and why they decided to eventually distance themselves from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Ellee explains how she got her start in music, why she turned down American idol, and what challenges she had to overcome to finally bring her career into alignment with what she truly wanted—without losing herself in the expectations of others.

Other topics include Auz’ connections to big names like Larry David and the Osmonds, his struggle with Adderall addiction, the dangers of bishop roulette, and Ellee losing her gay uncle to suicide. 

We also premiere Ellee’s newest single about her Mormon faith crisis entitled “Deeper” - available on Spotify.

Ellee’s TikTok & Instagram: @elleeduke

Ellee Duke Web site

Paul Cardall MS Episode

Jessie Funk MS Episode

Mindy Gledhill MS Episodes

Tyler Glenn MS Episode

Wayne Sermon MS Episode

Sarah Sample MS Episode

Ellee Duke the Singer Who Said No to American Idol

"Deeper" by Ellee Duke 

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Jul 15, 2022
1624: Ellee Duke and Auz Engemann Part 1 - Our Mormon Story
03:08:22

Singer songwriter Ellee Duke and her husband Auz Engemann share what life was like growing up in affluent (even idyllic) Mormon communities (Provo and Draper, Utah) and why they decided to eventually distance themselves from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Ellee explains how she got her start in music, why she turned down American idol, and what challenges she had to overcome to finally bring her career into alignment with what she truly wanted—without losing herself in the expectations of others.

Other topics include Auz’ connections to big names like Larry King, David and the Osmonds, his struggle with Adderall addiction, the dangers of bishop roulette, and Ellee losing her gay uncle to suicide. 

We also premiere Ellee’s newest single about her Mormon faith crisis entitled “Deeper” - available on Spotify.

Singer songwriter Ellee Duke and her husband Auz Engemann share what life was like growing up in affluent (even idyllic) Mormon communities (Provo and Draper, Utah) and why they decided to eventually distance themselves from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Ellee explains how she got her start in music, why she turned down American idol, and what challenges she had to overcome to finally bring her career into alignment with what she truly wanted—without losing herself in the expectations of others. Other topics include Auz’ connections to big names like Larry David and the Osmonds, his struggle with Adderall addiction, the dangers of bishop roulette, and Ellee losing her gay uncle to suicide.

Pt 2: https://youtu.be/mzepGTUAdXY

Ellee’s TikTok & Instagram: @elleeduke

Ellee Duke Web site

Paul Cardall MS Episode

Jessie Funk MS Episode

Mindy Gledhill MS Episodes

Tyler Glenn MS Episode

Wayne Sermon MS Episode

Sarah Sample MS Episode

Ellee Duke the Singer Who Said No to American Idol

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